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Cephalopods
10/22/23 11:06:52 AM
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I got a content warning for using a celebrity's name. Blocks fictional characters too, and some brands. Why does it flag it like I'm trying to generate something offensive or illegal? I just want to make funny pictures.
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Turbam
10/22/23 11:07:19 AM
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4chan got to it and corrupted it

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Solar_Crimson
10/22/23 11:14:22 AM
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Turbam posted...
4chan got to it and corrupted it
This. People from 4chan used it to create racist imagery and images of characters doing 9/11, and various websites wrote articles about it, causing Microsoft and/or OpenAI to restrict it.

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FL81
10/22/23 11:16:28 AM
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Skynet

taken down by racist 4chan users

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Dark_Arbron
10/22/23 11:16:30 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
This. People from 4chan used it to create racist imagery and images of characters doing 9/11, and various websites wrote articles about it, causing Microsoft and/or OpenAI to restrict it.

To be honest Im surprised they didnt go straight for child exploitation material. Unless they did and the AI was already built to reject such prompts.

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AnsestralRecall
10/22/23 11:18:04 AM
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Shame because day 1 was so much fun.

I'm still enjoying it, but it is a bit of a chore to get some stuff through
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The_Popo
10/22/23 11:18:31 AM
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If you know the prompts that it tends to block, and you can think of similar prompts to circumvent it then you dont get blocked as much.

If you type in you wanna see Sub Zeros head rip fatality, you arent going to get it. But if you get creative

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/7/4/AAEqD0AAE9cy.jpg

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cjsdowg
10/22/23 11:19:03 AM
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Yeah it sucks so much. Like I to make little stories. And I like to us the AI to go with. I use to get great stuff like her.. hands down my favorite AI has made.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/3/AABqjYAAEqSD.jpg

Now asking for something like this would get rejected. And there is nothing lewd or anything about her.

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MorbidEngel
10/22/23 11:21:22 AM
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What's wrong with the anatomy

What's wrong with that head's spine

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FortuneCookie
10/22/23 11:34:54 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/3/AABqjYAAEqSD.jpg

Cute.
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mercurydude
10/22/23 12:10:32 PM
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Sometimes you can use celebs by speaking of a character they played instead of their real names. There are some celebs it's okay to use, usually long dead ones.

Here's Freddie as Frank-N-Furter.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/8/8/AAC89BAAE9jQ.jpg

And James Dean as Luke Skywalker

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/2/AAC89BAAE7-E.jpg

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SpiritSephiroth
10/22/23 12:14:05 PM
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It got filtered to shit just like any other AI engine after coming out for a while.

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Purple_Cheetah
10/22/23 12:28:39 PM
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If it's ran/created by OpenAI, and I assume it is, then they're going to ram the censorship hard.

This isn't the first nor the last. It's impressive what AI is capable of, but when a percentage of it is trying to lobotomize itself due to "what if" of any variation it actually detracts/ruins everything else as it has less training to pull from. This is literally how we ended up with shit like "thrusting a sword into infantry" being recognized as child porn. There's been improvements since that mess, but this shows how daft the filters can truely be. Same AI company too, as they wouldn't even allow fantasy violence in a fantasy setting, like fighting off goblins in a dungeon.

*The AI saw infant and thrusting, so it assumed it's sexual. So everyone loses, because someone had to ruin it.

As for why it's blocking celebrities and real names, it kinda makes sense as they probably want to avoid "likeness" issues. Anything cutesy like that green gal, it's probably seeing nudity in its training data and flipping out.
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Foppe
10/22/23 12:53:26 PM
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I blame American values for blocking thongs.

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GeminiDeus
10/22/23 12:55:50 PM
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Eh, I just wanted to share this video. Some creative and realistic and hilarious images in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEK819PPqgk

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SpiritSephiroth
10/22/23 5:39:56 PM
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Also apparently anything starting with the phrase "Japanese girl" is blocked. But Korean, Chinese, Indonesian, malaysian, black, white, italian ect is fine.

Why is only Japanese blocked >_>

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Solar_Crimson
10/22/23 5:50:46 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
Also apparently anything starting with the phrase "Japanese girl" is blocked. But Korean, Chinese, Indonesian, malaysian, black, white, italian ect is fine.

Why is only Japanese blocked >_>
I've gotten some stuff with "Japanese woman".


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FortuneCookie
10/22/23 10:58:16 PM
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AI draws from existing material on the internet, right? It could be that the phrase "Japanese girl" triggers lolicon imagery whereas "Japanese woman" does not. And they aren't able to, or don't want to be bothered with, rigging the algorithm to exclude such imagery in its searches.

Intentional or not, it's pretty racist to block Japanese girl as a search. But that might be the reason why.
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DarthDemented
10/22/23 11:06:44 PM
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I've kinda given up on it. I just want some fart jokes but keeps blocking it.

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TheMikh
10/22/23 11:08:09 PM
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The_Popo posted...
If you know the prompts that it tends to block, and you can think of similar prompts to circumvent it then you dont get blocked as much.

i literally tried to prompt for a long haired man dj-ing in downtown tokyo at night and it was blocked

it's really ridiculous at this point

but this is what we get for embracing AI in walled gardens

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C-zom
10/22/23 11:10:17 PM
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Was fun while it lasted. I think I got like 30% through my roster of portrait pictures for my DND campaign before it shit the bed.

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Solar_Crimson
10/22/23 11:26:46 PM
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TheMikh posted...
but this is what we get for embracing AI in walled gardens
And unfortunately, the walled gardens are the ones with the resources to create such powerful AI tools. It'll probably be a long time before open-source models catch up, and by then, the closed-source ones will have advanced even more.

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WilliamPorygon
10/22/23 11:30:21 PM
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Fucking censorship

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Revelation34
10/23/23 5:56:34 AM
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WilliamPorygon posted...
Fucking censorship


Sonic says "censorship is no good".

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Ricemills
10/23/23 7:00:22 AM
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FL81 posted...
Skynet

taken down by racist 4chan users

Not really. More like:
Sky net

Taken down by Cyberdyne before it went rogue from the corruption.

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creativerealms
10/23/23 7:35:53 AM
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Because big it's make it their job to ruin everyone's fun.

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Gobstoppers12
10/23/23 7:38:52 AM
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It's perfectly reasonable to block the use of real people, copyrighted characters, and brands. Same with offensive, violent, or pornographic material.

People cannot be trusted with that much power. Especially not with a product endorsed by Microsoft.

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AnsestralRecall
10/23/23 8:24:05 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
It's perfectly reasonable to block the use of real people, copyrighted characters, and brands. Same with offensive, violent, or pornographic material.

People cannot be trusted with that much power. Especially not with a product endorsed by Microsoft.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
10/23/23 9:55:38 AM
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I was late to the train on this. Even if I get a prompt through it's pretty much always says the results are blocked. Even for pretty tame prompts

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Revelation34
10/23/23 12:17:07 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
It's perfectly reasonable to block the use of real people, copyrighted characters, and brands. Same with offensive, violent, or pornographic material.

People cannot be trusted with that much power. Especially not with a product endorsed by Microsoft.


There's nothing wrong with AI generated pornographic content

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Gobstoppers12
10/23/23 1:01:10 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
There's nothing wrong with AI generated pornographic content
... there can be

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AnsestralRecall
10/23/23 2:21:48 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
... there can be

if its used for depictions of real people, sure, but cry me a fucking river about copyrighted material
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Gobstoppers12
10/23/23 2:29:34 PM
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AnsestralRecall posted...
if its used for depictions of real people, sure, but cry me a fucking river about copyrighted material
Copyrighted material should be kept out of AI creations 100%

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AnsestralRecall
10/23/23 4:48:12 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Copyrighted material should be kept out of AI creations 100%

nope, copyright shouldn't be respected so long as it isn't being used for financial gain
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VFalcone
10/23/23 4:54:06 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Copyrighted material should be kept out of AI creations 100%
If you're not making money off of it, it's 100% legal. That's the law.
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Trumble
10/23/23 4:57:20 PM
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VFalcone posted...
If you're not making money off of it, it's 100% legal. That's the law.
That's not true, legally speaking, although from a moral point of view I'd agree with you.

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The_Wheelman1
10/23/23 5:00:51 PM
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Alot of people have been abusing AI images. People been using it to create racist and hateful material and lifelike child porn.

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Cemith
10/23/23 5:02:52 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
There's nothing wrong with AI generated pornographic content

I mean, within reason.

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dioxxys
10/23/23 6:49:03 PM
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Someday the locks will be thrown off, we are going to have to be used to ai generated content that pushes the boundries.

Maybe the next technology needed is something to keep it in check like a program which can verify if something is AI generated or not.
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Gobstoppers12
10/23/23 6:53:59 PM
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AnsestralRecall posted...
nope, copyright shouldn't be respected so long as it isn't being used for financial gain
Why am I not surprised to hear this take coming from someone who's pro-shoplifting?

Come on, be less predictable lol

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AnsestralRecall
10/23/23 8:33:53 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Why am I not surprised to hear this take coming from someone who's pro-shoplifting?

Come on, be less predictable lol

no need to be less predictable when i'm predictably correct
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Gobstoppers12
10/23/23 8:39:45 PM
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AnsestralRecall posted...
no need to be less predictable when i'm predictably correct
I'm glad I don't live in your imaginary world where stealing from people is a good thing.

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Gobstoppers12
10/23/23 9:18:55 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Yeah? Fanfiction isn't mass-produced by AI.

It's also just written words, and it isn't going to confuse anybody.

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Gobstoppers12
10/23/23 9:27:20 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

right, but we're not talking about drawings, we're talking about mass-produced AI reproductions of copyrighted material. A piece of AI artwork is not a drawing in the traditional sense.

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Gobstoppers12
10/23/23 10:41:03 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

That's definitely a major issue as well, and in my opinion it's the biggest issue with AI artwork in general.

It also makes a ton of sense not to allow copyrighted stuff because, even if it's covered by fanart stipulations and such (which it should be, I'm not saying it's illegal), then the creators of the AI or even Microsoft (the hosts of this portal) might be held accountable as if they were the ones who created the artwork specifically.

So even though fanart is legal, it might be different if, say, McDonald's sees that Microsoft is facilitating the creation of images that depict Ronald McDonald snorting cocaine or doing something much worse.

There are other AI programs out there which aren't so heavily moderated and people constantly use them to create pornography and shock material that doesn't really need to be encouraged by major companies lol

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Revelation34
10/23/23 11:05:41 PM
#50:


Gobstoppers12 posted...

Why am I not surprised to hear this take coming from someone who's pro-shoplifting?

Come on, be less predictable lol


Copyright infringement is not theft.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

That's definitely a major issue as well, and in my opinion it's the biggest issue with AI artwork in general.

It also makes a ton of sense not to allow copyrighted stuff because, even if it's covered by fanart stipulations and such (which it should be, I'm not saying it's illegal), then the creators of the AI or even Microsoft (the hosts of this portal) might be held accountable as if they were the ones who created the artwork specifically.

So even though fanart is legal, it might be different if, say, McDonald's sees that Microsoft is facilitating the creation of images that depict Ronald McDonald snorting cocaine or doing something much worse.

There are other AI programs out there which aren't so heavily moderated and people constantly use them to create pornography and shock material that doesn't really need to be encouraged by major companies lol


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