Current Events > There's Some Drama Brewing Between Wendee Lee, Fans, and Other Voice Actors

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https://twitter.com/ProZD/status/1716497708717080722?t=PJJTShtiduR6O8roc9y0vg&s=19

ProZD being mad about receiving an Asian character goes with when people were saying black characters should only be played by black voice actors right? That's why Cleveland was replaced in Family Guy and Carl in the Simpsons. He even said it was a prominent cartoon so I imagine the bigger companies and networks are especially trying to be more sensitive.

Are people mad at actors for the director/producers choosing to hire them? Is that what's going on here?

Let's hope dubs can be destroyed by the end of the week.

https://twitter.com/TheTropeMaster/status/1716421954557600202

Wild thing is the dude who quoted that was a CEman and a moderator on GameFAQs for a time.

And this quote is from FIFTEEN years ago!

If only what he said matched what happened here.

Fuck sub elitism and lol at acting like Japanese VAs never have drama.

When did I say Japanese VAs never have drama? My problem with dubs is poor acting and inaccuracies in the adapted script.

My problem with dubs is poor acting and inaccuracies in the adapted script.

1. JP dubs also suffer from poor acting. You're just not familiar enough with Japanese to pick up bad acting.
2. Could you provide an example of an "inaccuracy in the adapted script"?

CE is definitely having a more normal one over this than A&M:OT. You do not want to see that topic.

Anyway...

1. JP dubs also suffer from poor acting. You're just not familiar enough with Japanese to pick up bad acting.
2. Could you provide an example of an "inaccuracy in the adapted script"?

1. Thanks for being intimately familiar with my knowledge of the Japanese language. Also, the statement "Dubs are poorly acted" doesn't immediately mean "Japanese acting is perfect" even if I didn't have knowledge about the Japanese language.
2. In the release of SSSS.Dynazenon there is a ghost that appears from a haunted "Mirror" but he says it as the loan word "" the translation adapts as this "future" and says he's a monster from the future instead. It's obvious if you watched the show even a little and saw what he was talking about so whoever is adapting that script just looked at the text and misstook "" and """

JP dubs also suffer from poor acting

A little late to the party but...this is just Wendee Lee being Wendee Lee.

So Miu wasn't a character, it was just her?

?

I'm just saying that Wendee Lee doesn't have a good reputation in the industry for a reason. She's not the most stable of people, and she's been known to be abrasive--to put it mildly--and difficult to work with. Which is a fucking shame because she's really damn good at her job.

Good to see she backtracked this time, though.

Sounds like she needs to go to therapy then.

Sounds like she needs to go to therapy then.

So Miu wasn't a character, it was just her?

His point was that 'Asian' is incredibly vague unless you think an Indian person and someone from China are the same.

No they don't

No they don't

Even if people want to clown on Marth for saying that you have to admit that objectively it is closest to the vision of the creator

Even if people want to clown on Marth for saying that you have to admit that objectively it is closest to the vision of the creator.

and?

does that mean ever JP dub is good and every English dub is bad??

So what?

He deserves to be clowned on for saying that as it's objectively untrue, just like your generic smoothbrain "dub bad!" claims are also untrue.

and?

does that mean ever JP dub is good and every English dub is bad??

Of course not, there's no way 100% of anything works like that but the JP audio is mostly good and the dubbed is mostly bad.

It's not like you're gonna logic Marth out of worshipping his weeaboo stroke totems.

True, but it's good to remind him he needs to touch grass occasionally.

I don't want to touch inferior Canadian grass

I'll touch grass when I can visit Japan. The people there will accept me and understand what jokes are

1. Thanks for being intimately familiar with my knowledge of the Japanese language. Also, the statement "Dubs are poorly acted" doesn't immediately mean "Japanese acting is perfect" even if I didn't have knowledge about the Japanese language.

2. In the release of SSSS.Dynazenon there is a ghost that appears from a haunted "Mirror" but he says it as the loan word "" the translation adapts as this "future" and says he's a monster from the future instead. It's obvious if you watched the show even a little and saw what he was talking about so whoever is adapting that script just looked at the text and misstook "" and """

No they don't

but the JP audio is mostly good and the dubbed is mostly bad

Did I insult your waifu or something. You're rude towards me for no reason a lot

I just don't like blind and smoothbrained Japan worshipping weebs.

I've lived there, it's like every other country with, and you'll have trouble believing this, flaws.

But why get rude over harmless jokes

And how dare you try to claim a nation as perfect as Japan has flaws

"English dubs are mostly bad" because they messed up a "mirror" translation.

Of course not, there's no way 100% of anything works like that but the JP audio is mostly good and the dubbed is mostly bad. The dub doesn't have the issue of just performances but scripts as well which are frequently inaccurate. You could have the best actor but if your translator gives them an inaccurate script ...

I'll touch grass when I can visit Japan. The people there will accept me and understand what jokes are

And how dare you try to claim a nation as perfect as Japan has flaws

just so I understand: you know the difference between translating and localizing, right?

Of course, but I feel like anime being the only art form that needs to be localized is pretty sad. When I see Japanese live action films or films from the 60's they don't need to be changed for some reason by the local film school which shows them.

I mean how can you deny that involve more and more people across separate languages won't lead to mistakes or errors like a game of telephone? Even if the original creator is intimately involved they aren't bilingual!

I feel like anime being the only art form that needs to be localized is pretty sad.

Of course, but I feel like anime being the only art form that needs to be localized is pretty sad. When I see Japanese live action films or films from the 60's they don't need to be changed for some reason by the local film school which shows them.

What movies are these that "got it right", in your mind?

The fact these films are steeped in Japanese culture but don't feel the need to explain it is refreshing!