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Jagr_68 10/22/23 7:28:40 PM #1: |
https://www.pcgamesn.com/deus-ex-new-game-adam-jensen
Starfield and Adam Jensen actor Elias Toufexis, whose credits also include Assassins Creed, Call of Duty, and The Callisto Protocol, says that the absence of a new Deus Ex game is insane. The last main series outing for the sci-fi, stealth RPG from Eidos and Square Enix was Deus Ex Mankind Divided back in 2016. Before that, we had Deus Ex Human Revolution, the revered prequel to Ion Storms defining 2000 immersive sim. Now, as part of a series of responses regarding a Cyberpunk 2077 mod, Toufexis shares his opinion on the lack of a new Deus Ex game. He makes a good point since Squeenix fucked over Mankind Divided's hype so badly with the most unnecessary MTX scheme ever. Anyway it's cool he gives a shit about the IP. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 10/22/23 7:30:04 PM #2: |
He's right though
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UnfairRepresent 10/22/23 7:31:23 PM #3: |
Deus Ex is such a strange franchise TBH
The inconsistency in quality of the games, direction, atmosphere and worldbuilding is all over the place. Even HR and MD are on different wavelengths --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ColonizedMind 10/22/23 7:33:03 PM #4: |
I think Mankind Divided is really underrated. Its a big shame the game doesnt have a satisfying conclusion but Prague is such an amazing city to explore and for my money the peak of immersive sim level design. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 10/22/23 7:35:55 PM #6: |
ColonizedMind posted...
I think Mankind Divided is really underrated. Its a big shame the game doesnt have a satisfying conclusion but Prague is such an amazing city to explore and for my money the peak of immersive sim level design.Yeah it was a fun game, no on the level of the previous game but still good. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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C-zom 10/22/23 7:36:34 PM #7: |
I like seeing Mankind Divided gain the reputation it has over the last 2-3 years for having an extremely high quality but humbly sized city to explore. Prague is one of my favorite environments in any game. It came out too soon after HR and if I remember right, it was the onset of the mtx days and it had a hilariously bad e-shop and or loot boxes.
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Jagr_68 10/22/23 7:39:44 PM #8: |
DarthAragorn posted...
He's right though My first Cyberpunk 2077 playthrough was me accidentally going about it Deus Ex style because stealth hacking was so broken and OP it was just way too fun playing a different style otherwise. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 10/22/23 7:45:18 PM #9: |
ColonizedMind posted...
I think Mankind Divided is really underrated. Its a big shame the game doesnt have a satisfying conclusion but Prague is such an amazing city to explore and for my money the peak of immersive sim level design.Prague is great, but the problem is Prague is all there is. Prague feels like it should be the 1st location you visit in a globetrotting adventure. Like NYC in the original. But the whole game takes place there and ends really abrutly and really quickly halfway through the story with a main villain you barely interact with. It's just so unsatisfying as an experience despite the effort the team put into Prague. Hell looking back I don't think any of the characters or their dynamics land. I can't even remember the names of your boss, the pilot, the female aug agent, the villain, the evil psychologist, the guy who ran the aug city. I can remember Jock and Bob Page and Manderly and Maggie Chow and Paul. I can remember Sarif, Megan Reed, Malik, Pritchard, Haas, Barrett. I can remember Billie Adams, Nassif, Chad, Luminon, Donna Morgan, Sid Black. And they are all older characters from older games. Nothing MD clicked and the weird "Augs as racial segreation" thing was so over the top it lost all value as political commentary that it could have had. Let alone not fitting into the original. Mankind Divided wasn't "bad" but jeepers creepers was it totally flawed from a gameplay, worldbuilding, story and character perspective. You can't solely blame the poor sales on the bad DLC and pre-order businsess practices. The game just flat out wasn't up to snuff. Edit: Major spoilers --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Necronmon 10/22/23 7:54:19 PM #10: |
I mean, a remaster of System Shock 2 is suppose to be out soon right? If that does well maybe that will lead to another one? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 10/22/23 7:56:53 PM #11: |
I only thought the first game was good
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DKBananaSlamma 10/22/23 7:59:58 PM #12: |
The 1st game is a legit masterpiece
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trivialbeing 10/22/23 8:00:07 PM #13: |
blame square exix ... Copied to Clipboard!
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C-zom 10/22/23 8:00:14 PM #14: |
Necronmon posted...
I mean, a remaster of System Shock 2 is suppose to be out soon right? If that does well maybe that will lead to another one? It's an Enhanced Edition, not a remake. Nightdive secured a budget/good faith on remaking System Shock 1 by first releasing an EE that was more or less all the QoL mods over the years rolled into a steam release. It was popular so between sales and a kickstarter they remade System Shock 1. Now they're releasing that same "patch" style EE for 2, leading to speculation a remake announcement is around the corner. Not marred by controversy, however, 1's Remake is currently in publisher hell. A remarkable amount of content is not finished and kickstarter promises are not kept, nor are the console releases out. The word is the publisher wants more money and is holding two massive, already completed patches back. --- Since only from below can one better see the heights. http://i.imgur.com/OhZgm.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ColonizedMind 10/22/23 8:01:27 PM #15: |
What content isnt finished in the remake? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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C-zom 10/22/23 8:09:58 PM #16: |
ColonizedMind posted...
What content isnt finished in the remake? *Cough* Male/Female Protag GamePig + About Five interactable vending machines OG Soundtrack Support Steam Cloud Support Mission Waypoints/Objective Markers are broken since launch (For 1,2 difficulty modes) Enemy reinforcements are bugged, the game doesn't spawn even 50% as many enemies as it should (Discord/Steam discussions on it) A ton of portrait art. Near the middle to end of the game, many NPC's have a 404 or duplicate portrait. Audio logs repeat; two dozen are in the game-files and are improperly coded in the game. Entire ending boss fight is a garbage placeholder from the Kickstarer days. Originally promised to be fixed shortly after launch, nearly a year later it's still only in the rumor/clips on discord phase. *Kickstarter Promises people paid for and aren't done Character Genders Physical Goods Console Release Disc Release Soundtrack Release --- Since only from below can one better see the heights. http://i.imgur.com/OhZgm.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ColonizedMind 10/22/23 8:11:02 PM #17: |
Jeez ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 10/22/23 8:11:32 PM #18: |
DarthAragorn posted...
He's right though --- "This is your last dance." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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C-zom 10/22/23 8:12:53 PM #19: |
ColonizedMind posted...
Jeez Don't get me wrong I loved the remake. I'm a horror fan and it was my favorite of the big remakes this year including Dead Space and RE4. It just has a lot of work to go, but has only had virtually one patch before the devs got frozen up by something related to the publisher. Steam forums now are saying they cut funding until the console releases are out. Makes sense a publisher would want the money for that market, and is upset nearly a year of hype is dried up before those could happen. --- Since only from below can one better see the heights. http://i.imgur.com/OhZgm.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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godofwar596 10/22/23 8:18:38 PM #20: |
ColonizedMind posted...
I think Mankind Divided is really underrated. Its a big shame the game doesnt have a satisfying conclusion but Prague is such an amazing city to explore and for my money the peak of immersive sim level design.I feel like Prey 2017 is the peak of immersive sim level design imo --- "If you hate me get in line!" Time to fist ppl in Ishin baby! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 10/22/23 8:19:44 PM #21: |
godofwar596 posted...
I feel like Prey 2017 is the peak of immersive sim level design imoI went into that completely blind and it was one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 10/22/23 8:20:29 PM #22: |
Mankind Divided was an egregious example of a game being cut short of content for a sequel
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specialkid8 10/22/23 8:54:15 PM #23: |
I mean, people have been asking for this since launch, but Cyberpunks recent rebound definitely wouldn't get the wheels rolling on another DE so soon. If anything, it's previous controversy would make the publisher second guess making a cyberpunk game. We can only hope it's second life does convince the publisher to make one in the near future
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Sufferedphoneix 10/22/23 8:57:49 PM #24: |
Jagr_68 posted...
My first Cyberpunk 2077 playthrough was me accidentally going about it Deus Ex style because stealth hacking was so broken and OP it was just way too fun playing a different style otherwise. I stealth hacked a lot in Cyberpunk. Got your set up right and you could fuck up the majority of the enemies before they detected you. Sometimes I even managed to wipe em all out. --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Stallion_Prime 10/22/23 9:01:15 PM #25: |
Sufferedphoneix posted...
I stealth hacked a lot in Cyberpunk. Got your set up right and you could fuck up the majority of the enemies before they detected you. Sometimes I even managed to wipe em all out.shotgun and katana and brute forcing your way is the only way to play --- -Hunter1534 http://abload.de/img/powercdkcb.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoneix 10/22/23 9:02:42 PM #26: |
Stallion_Prime posted...
shotgun and katana and brute forcing your way is the only way to play Nah stealth hacking was fun. Think it was contagion I used where it would spread to so many other enemies within a distance. Usually wouldn't kill em but them I had stuff like short circuit to finish em off --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 10/22/23 9:03:03 PM #27: |
Stallion_Prime posted...
shotgun and katana and brute forcing your way is the only way to playGotta go 20 Body and Blunt to properly brute force. Bippity-bop the bullshit out of someone's mouth with your Gorilla Arms, then pick them up and fuckin; CHUCK them into anther group. Delicious salsa. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 10/22/23 9:03:41 PM #28: |
Unfortunately I get it. The far majority of immersive sims in the last few years have flopped hard. Hell throughout their entire history the genre has struggled.
I don't want an open world Deus Ex game like Cyberpunk 2077. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 10/22/23 9:03:47 PM #29: |
Sufferedphoneix posted...
Think it was contagion I used where it would spread to so many other enemies within a distance. Usually wouldn't kill em but them I had stuff like short circuit to finish em offNowadays you tap them with Contagion then use Overheat and they straight up explode. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoneix 10/22/23 9:04:21 PM #30: |
DrizztLink posted...
Gotta go 20 Body and Blunt to properly brute force. Yeah first play I was all about mantis blades. Then I realized I could go gorrila arms and just use a katana if I wanted to slice and dice --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Stallion_Prime 10/22/23 9:05:25 PM #31: |
Sufferedphoneix posted...
Nah stealth hacking was fun. stealth in cyberpunk is literal ass. i dont care how broken your setup is. the game wasnt designed properly around it lol --- -Hunter1534 http://abload.de/img/powercdkcb.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 10/22/23 9:07:25 PM #32: |
Sufferedphoneix posted...
Yeah first play I was all about mantis blades. Then I realized I could go gorrila arms and just use a katana if I wanted to slice and diceMantis Blades still suck in 2.0, unfortunately, even with the Relic tree. Too slow, not enough damage. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordYeezus 10/22/23 9:08:19 PM #33: |
The first game was insane, must have been mind-blowing when it first came out
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Sufferedphoneix 10/22/23 9:08:45 PM #34: |
Stallion_Prime posted...
stealth in cyberpunk is literal ass. i dont care how broken your setup is. the game wasnt designed properly around it lol Yeah normal stealth sucked. But it seemed fine using hacking. Most games not designed specifically around stealth tend to suck at stealth. Think it was thr feeling of being nearly unstoppable as you topple enemies without lifting a finger that did it for me. Like stealth In skyrim sucks. It's op as a archer but it's really not that fun. Without archery Making it op I doubt many would have fucked with it --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alchemist_Emil 10/22/23 9:09:46 PM #35: |
I never liked those games
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DarkBuster22904 10/22/23 9:13:42 PM #36: |
Mankind Divided was unfortunately dead on arrival after the microtransaction controversies, and the "Augment your Preorder" bullshit.
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