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LockeMonster 10/26/23 8:59:56 PM #1:	Comes out at 9 PM EST. Down to the second half of the show with 2 episodes left after tonight. --- "Scranton is great, but New York is like Scranton on acid. No, on speed. Nah. On steroids." FC: 3282-3258-0224 <cite>LockeMonster posted [p:976879337] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>Comes out at 9 PM EST.Down to the second half of the show with 2 episodes left after tonight. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER 10/26/23 9:07:48 PM #2:	How has it been? --- I wash myself with a rag on stiiick <cite>FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted [p:976879452] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>How has it been? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToteAll 10/26/23 9:50:52 PM #4:	Can someone spoil the fuck outta me about the major plot details thus far? I don't want to watch it whole. <cite>ToteAll posted [p:976879988] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>Can someone spoil the fuck outta me about the major plot details thus far? I don't want to watch it whole.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/26/23 9:55:58 PM #5:	Wow wonder if time died. ~~They'll obviously get another shot at this with time fuckery and "not screw it up".~~ --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:976880057] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>Wow wonder if time died.They'll obviously get another shot at this with time fuckery and "not screw it up". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XxKrazyChaosxX 10/26/23 10:04:00 PM #6:	I thought for a second Victor got Thanos snapped lol. --- "I woke up at four am by accident in time for the paper to be delivered. Guess what? It's not a kid on a bike, it's a man in a car." - Kevin Malone <cite>XxKrazyChaosxX posted [p:976880164] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>I thought for a second Victor got Thanos snapped lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 10/26/23 11:19:45 PM #8:	Daaaamn I'm loving this show so far --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:976881160] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>DaaaamnI'm loving this show so far </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 10/27/23 2:01:52 AM #9:	He Who Remains shackled time to prevent all his variants from rising up and threatening him. With the Loom destroyed, the Universe is free. --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:976882832] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>He Who Remains shackled time to prevent all his variants from rising up and threatening him. With the Loom destroyed, the Universe is free. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Northlane 10/27/23 4:49:12 AM #10:	Honestly this show makes no sense. What is the goal here? Are we preventing Kang? Why is the loom exploding? What are the stakes? There's alternate timelines, time travel, bootstrap paradoxes but none of it has been established to properly elicit some sort of emotional response from the audience I go on Reddit to the S2E4 discussion thread and not a single soul is talking about the writing, the plot or anything of substance instead opting for crap like "oh my god, people getting crushed in a box and you can hear bones breaking and blood dripping... darkest shit in the MCU!" and "that final shot of Tom Hiddleston is truly chilling" like what the fuck is this garbage? Am I living in a simulation? Can a Marvel fanboy PLEASE come in here and explain this shit --- "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life. <cite>Northlane posted [p:976883890] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>Honestly this show makes no sense. What is the goal here? Are we preventing Kang? Why is the loom exploding? What are the stakes? There's alternate timelines, time travel, bootstrap paradoxes but none of it has been established to properly elicit some sort of emotional response from the audienceI go on Reddit to the S2E4 discussion thread and not a single soul is talking about the writing, the plot or anything of substance instead opting for crap like "oh my god, people getting crushed in a box and you can hear bones breaking and blood dripping... darkest shit in the MCU!" and "that final shot of Tom Hiddleston is truly chilling" like what the fuck is this garbage? Am I living in a simulation?Can a Marvel fanboy PLEASE come in here and explain this shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/27/23 8:26:17 AM #11:	Northlane posted... Honestly this show makes no sense. What is the goal here? Are we preventing Kang? Why is the loom exploding? What are the stakes? Yeah this is my problem with this season. Season 1 had a very obvious driving question: what is the TVA and who's really in charge? They had the side dish of "ooo Variants means new takes on existing characters! It's mostly Loki but that's still pretty cool!" Season 2 starts with "uh oh time is exploding!" which is not something people can grasp so it's poor stakes. And I thought we'd resolved that when Mobius went out there and I'm like "Okay now this season's plot can REALLY begin" and we're like "okay maybe this is Kang's origin, or just another variant? Eh, whatever, we have characters in slightly different circumstances so that's kind of nice I guess" And then we're back to "uh oh time is exploding!" and I don't really care because any character interaction has become centered around this problem as opposed to learning about characters growing and changing with each other. And then we're like "oh is this how Ravonna and Kang get together, referential to the comics?" and then one episode later "Nah, turns out she doesn't like him, she's pissed and now just wants to use him, and then it turns out their actual relationship was in the past with the He Who Remains variant and you think that does something but the Loki has X-5 just prune her bye". Also I don't expect that pruning of Ravonna to stick. It's too abrupt. When they get their next shot at this, Ravonna will have something changed in her timeline. My prediction is that all these episodes will be either cyclical or focused around breaking said cycle, but to get it one episode at a time is kind of poor structure because ultimately you have an episode where "not the entire thing" happens. Ke Huy Quan keeps me coming back but even his adorability can only carry the show so far. --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:976885363] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>Northlane posted... </cite><quote>Honestly this show makes no sense. What is the goal here? Are we preventing Kang? Why is the loom exploding? What are the stakes?</quote>Yeah this is my problem with this season. Season 1 had a very obvious driving question: what is the TVA and who's really in charge? They had the side dish of "ooo Variants means new takes on existing characters! It's mostly Loki but that's still pretty cool!"Season 2 starts with "uh oh time is exploding!" which is not something people can grasp so it's poor stakes.And I thought we'd resolved that when Mobius went out there and I'm like "Okay now this season's plot can REALLY begin" and we're like "okay maybe this is Kang's origin, or just another variant? Eh, whatever, we have characters in slightly different circumstances so that's kind of nice I guess"And then we're back to "uh oh time is exploding!" and I don't really care because any character interaction has become centered around this problem as opposed to learning about characters growing and changing with each other.And then we're like "oh is this how Ravonna and Kang get together, referential to the comics?" and then one episode later "Nah, turns out she doesn't like him, she's pissed and now just wants to use him, and then it turns out their actual relationship was in the past with the He Who Remains variant and you think that does something but the Loki has X-5 just prune her bye".Also I don't expect that pruning of Ravonna to stick. It's too abrupt. When they get their next shot at this, Ravonna will have something changed in her timeline.My prediction is that all these episodes will be either cyclical or focused around breaking said cycle, but to get it one episode at a time is kind of poor structure because ultimately you have an episode where "not the entire thing" happens.Ke Huy Quan keeps me coming back but even his adorability can only carry the show so far. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 10/27/23 10:26:08 AM #12:	CyricZ posted... And then we're like "oh is this how Ravonna and Kang get together, referential to the comics?" and then one episode later "Nah, turns out she doesn't like him, she's pissed and now just wants to use him, and then it turns out their actual relationship was in the past with the He Who Remains variant and you think that does something but the Loki has X-5 just prune her bye". Yeah, that whole bit accomplished nothing. Ravonna is back at end of time, where she was at the start of the episode. Ms. Time is rebooted and effectively killed, but small tweaks to the previous episode could've accomplished that when Victor disabled her. The prisoners are dead but whether they are in prison or dead, they aren't interacting with the plot anymore so it's not much of a plot difference. Same result would've been achieved by only X5 accepting the deal to work together. The sounds of their death did invoke strong reaction so there's that. Victor was delayed but he died so quickly that starting 10 minutes earlier would not have made a difference. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:976886864] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite><quote>And then we're like "oh is this how Ravonna and Kang get together, referential to the comics?" and then one episode later "Nah, turns out she doesn't like him, she's pissed and now just wants to use him, and then it turns out their actual relationship was in the past with the He Who Remains variant and you think that does something but the Loki has X-5 just prune her bye".</quote>Yeah, that whole bit accomplished nothing. Ravonna is back at end of time, where she was at the start of the episode. Ms. Time is rebooted and effectively killed, but small tweaks to the previous episode could've accomplished that when Victor disabled her. The prisoners are dead but whether they are in prison or dead, they aren't interacting with the plot anymore so it's not much of a plot difference. Same result would've been achieved by only X5 accepting the deal to work together. The sounds of their death did invoke strong reaction so there's that. Victor was delayed but he died so quickly that starting 10 minutes earlier would not have made a difference. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MatzoTov 10/27/23 10:47:18 AM #13:	Yeah like that above poster said, "time is exploding what do we do!!!" has been dragging for way too long. I worried it was gonna be the whole season. Having said that, it appears to have finally exploded. We have to wait an episode to see what happens, but sample size so far will indicate there will be nothing actually damaging about the time explosion. But as my magic 8-ball would say, outlook is bleak. --- Sigless by choice <cite>MatzoTov posted [p:976887194] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>Yeah like that above poster said, "time is exploding what do we do!!!" has been dragging for way too long. I worried it was gonna be the whole season.Having said that, it appears to have finally exploded. We have to wait an episode to see what happens, but sample size so far will indicate there will be nothing actually damaging about the time explosion. But as my magic 8-ball would say, outlook is bleak. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornyLevel 10/27/23 10:53:20 AM #14:	I'm enjoying the show, but I'm definitely lost on what the point of all this is. I feel like it was just something dumb they added with the whole loom thing. It would have been more interesting if it came before things like NWH and MoM. I was expecting more of a show where they would interact with some of the other timelines or variants. --- Nani?!? <cite>HornyLevel posted [p:976887289] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>I'm enjoying the show, but I'm definitely lost on what the point of all this is. I feel like it was just something dumb they added with the whole loom thing. It would have been more interesting if it came before things like NWH and MoM.I was expecting more of a show where they would interact with some of the other timelines or variants. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/27/23 10:56:55 AM #15:	MatzoTov posted... Yeah like that above poster said, "time is exploding what do we do!!!" has been dragging for way too long. I worried it was gonna be the whole season. Having said that, it appears to have finally exploded. We have to wait an episode to see what happens, but sample size so far will indicate there will be nothing actually damaging about the time explosion. But as my magic 8-ball would say, outlook is bleak. My money's on "we go back to a few days ago and get another shot at it". --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:976887338] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>MatzoTov posted... </cite><quote>Yeah like that above poster said, "time is exploding what do we do!!!" has been dragging for way too long. I worried it was gonna be the whole season.Having said that, it appears to have finally exploded. We have to wait an episode to see what happens, but sample size so far will indicate there will be nothing actually damaging about the time explosion. But as my magic 8-ball would say, outlook is bleak.</quote>My money's on "we go back to a few days ago and get another shot at it". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 10/27/23 11:05:49 AM #16:	bfslick50 posted... Ravonna is back at end of time, where she was at the start of the episode. Wouldn't both Ravonna and Loki be in the void and not the end of time? --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:976887465] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>bfslick50 posted... </cite><quote>Ravonna is back at end of time, where she was at the start of the episode.</quote>Wouldn't both Ravonna and Loki be in the void and not the end of time? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KogaSteelfang 10/27/23 11:30:36 AM #17:	So, Casey just became the most powerful being in the multiverse. With the magic dampeners out of order, and his drawer full of infinity stones he was collecting. lol I doubt they'll actually use them, but the end credits do spend time showing them every episode. Looks more like Loki's time skipping/being unstuck from time will be what saves the day. <cite>KogaSteelfang posted [p:976887793] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>So, Casey just became the most powerful being in the multiverse. With the magic dampeners out of order, and his drawer full of infinity stones he was collecting. lolI doubt they'll actually use them, but the end credits do spend time showing them every episode. Looks more like Loki's time skipping/being unstuck from time will be what saves the day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MatzoTov 10/27/23 12:50:25 PM #18:	CyricZ posted... My money's on "we go back to a few days ago and get another shot at it". Let's hope not... but it wouldn't surprise me given how mediocre these shows have been. --- Sigless by choice <cite>MatzoTov posted [p:976889094] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite><quote>My money's on "we go back to a few days ago and get another shot at it".</quote>Let's hope not... but it wouldn't surprise me given how mediocre these shows have been. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DKJ 10/27/23 1:08:51 PM #19:	Damn, now Victor Timely's a sad tale. --- You are now breathing manually. <cite>DKJ posted [p:976889396] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>Damn, now Victor Timely's a sad tale. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 10/28/23 8:14:10 AM #20:	DKJ posted... Damn, now Victor Timely's a sad tale. I don't think we've seen the last of him. Kang hid him and had Ravonna retrieve him for a reason. KogaSteelfang posted... So, Casey just became the most powerful being in the multiverse. With the magic dampeners out of order, and his drawer full of infinity stones he was collecting. lol lmao Technically nobody there would be strong enough to use the stones without dying. The power scaling for the TVA is kind of wild. The very first episode implies they're unstoppably powerful with how easily they capture Loki, but then they kind of just turn into dudes with glow sticks who need Loki to solve everything for them. I guess that's kind of what Kang is too, just a dude with very powerful but situational tech. --- http://i.imgur.com/1XbPahR.png <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:976902184] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>DKJ posted... </cite><quote>Damn, now Victor Timely's a sad tale.</quote>I don't think we've seen the last of him. Kang hid him and had Ravonna retrieve him for a reason.KogaSteelfang posted... </cite><quote>So, Casey just became the most powerful being in the multiverse. With the magic dampeners out of order, and his drawer full of infinity stones he was collecting. lol</quote>lmaoTechnically nobody there would be strong enough to use the stones without dying. The power scaling for the TVA is kind of wild. The very first episode implies they're unstoppably powerful with how easily they capture Loki, but then they kind of just turn into dudes with glow sticks who need Loki to solve everything for them. I guess that's kind of what Kang is too, just a dude with very powerful but situational tech. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 10/28/23 8:17:34 AM #21:	i dunno why but Victor's fascination with the hot cocoa machine made me lol. >_> <cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:976902211] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>i dunno why but Victor's fascination with the hot cocoa machine made me lol. >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 10/28/23 8:18:50 AM #22:	season has been pretty solid so far! i just hope it doesnt end with another shlocky CGI fight. seems like the norm for most Marvel shows... <cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:976902224] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>season has been pretty solid so far!i just hope it doesnt end with another shlocky CGI fight. seems like the norm for most Marvel shows...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LockeMonster 10/28/23 12:56:35 PM #23:	That "we are Gods" scene was amazing. I really want to see this Loki meet up with Thor. His growth has been one of the best things about the MCU. Also, I wonder if Timely's death means he essentially split himself across the entire multiverse. This show gives off some strong Lost vibes. That ending was just like "the incident". --- "Scranton is great, but New York is like Scranton on acid. No, on speed. Nah. On steroids." FC: 3282-3258-0224 <cite>LockeMonster posted [p:976905582] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>That "we are Gods" scene was amazing. I really want to see this Loki meet up with Thor. His growth has been one of the best things about the MCU.Also, I wonder if Timely's death means he essentially split himself across the entire multiverse.This show gives off some strong Lost vibes. That ending was just like "the incident". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 10/28/23 1:16:02 PM #24:	Northlane posted... Honestly this show makes no sense. What is the goal here? Are we preventing Kang? Why is the loom exploding? What are the stakes? There's alternate timelines, time travel, bootstrap paradoxes but none of it has been established to properly elicit some sort of emotional response from the audience I go on Reddit to the S2E4 discussion thread and not a single soul is talking about the writing, the plot or anything of substance instead opting for crap like "oh my god, people getting crushed in a box and you can hear bones breaking and blood dripping... darkest shit in the MCU!" and "that final shot of Tom Hiddleston is truly chilling" like what the fuck is this garbage? Am I living in a simulation? Can a Marvel fanboy PLEASE come in here and explain this shit Yeah, the show is kind of all over the place which is unfortunate. I am still confuse how the whole time thing works. With that said, it's pretty obvious that the next episode is going to have Loki and Ravonna save the day...erh time...timelines...I'm fucking confused on what they're trying to save. But since both of them got prunned, it makes sense they would be the ones not killed from that explosion. ZevLoveDOOM posted... season has been pretty solid so far! i just hope it doesnt end with another shlocky CGI fight. seems like the norm for most Marvel shows... Yeah, can we get a MCU show finale that doesn't end in a shitty CGI fight? She-Hulk goes out of its way to make fun of that and they do the very thing in Secret Invasion. For a show like this, I'm just hoping the finale is something that explains this whole TVA lore in a more clear sense that is griping in some way. I'm not asking for an Andor of the MCU shows, but I am asking for something different. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:976905881] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>Northlane posted... </cite><quote>Honestly this show makes no sense. What is the goal here? Are we preventing Kang? Why is the loom exploding? What are the stakes? There's alternate timelines, time travel, bootstrap paradoxes but none of it has been established to properly elicit some sort of emotional response from the audienceI go on Reddit to the S2E4 discussion thread and not a single soul is talking about the writing, the plot or anything of substance instead opting for crap like "oh my god, people getting crushed in a box and you can hear bones breaking and blood dripping... darkest shit in the MCU!" and "that final shot of Tom Hiddleston is truly chilling" like what the fuck is this garbage? Am I living in a simulation?Can a Marvel fanboy PLEASE come in here and explain this shit</quote>Yeah, the show is kind of all over the place which is unfortunate. I am still confuse how the whole time thing works.With that said, it's pretty obvious that the next episode is going to have Loki and Ravonna save the day...erh time...timelines...I'm fucking confused on what they're trying to save. But since both of them got prunned, it makes sense they would be the ones not killed from that explosion.ZevLoveDOOM posted... </cite><quote>season has been pretty solid so far!i just hope it doesnt end with another shlocky CGI fight. seems like the norm for most Marvel shows...</quote>Yeah, can we get a MCU show finale that doesn't end in a shitty CGI fight? She-Hulk goes out of its way to make fun of that and they do the very thing in Secret Invasion. For a show like this, I'm just hoping the finale is something that explains this whole TVA lore in a more clear sense that is griping in some way. I'm not asking for an Andor of the MCU shows, but I am asking for something different. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 10/28/23 1:22:22 PM #25:	I'm kind of glad we get to see the loom blow up because up until now they've not really explained the consequences of that. From what I've gathered the loom is powering the TVA and if it blows up the TVA blows up but I guess...good? Just put the TVA people on a timeline somewhere they have plenty of choice. --- http://i.imgur.com/1XbPahR.png <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:976905964] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>I'm kind of glad we get to see the loom blow up because up until now they've not really explained the consequences of that. From what I've gathered the loom is powering the TVA and if it blows up the TVA blows up but I guess...good? Just put the TVA people on a timeline somewhere they have plenty of choice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 10/28/23 1:24:34 PM #26:	Prestoff posted... With that said, it's pretty obvious that the next episode is going to have Loki and Ravonna save the day...erh time...timelines...I'm fucking confused on what they're trying to save. But since both of them got prunned, it makes sense they would be the ones not killed from that explosion. That was a past pruning for Loki, in the first episode this season when he needed to get pruned so Morbius could extract him from the timeline --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:976905985] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>Prestoff posted... </cite><quote>With that said, it's pretty obvious that the next episode is going to have Loki and Ravonna save the day...erh time...timelines...I'm fucking confused on what they're trying to save. But since both of them got prunned, it makes sense they would be the ones not killed from that explosion.</quote>That was a past pruning for Loki, in the first episode this season when he needed to get pruned so Morbius could extract him from the timeline </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 10/28/23 1:28:13 PM #27:	bfslick50 posted... That was a past pruning for Loki, in the first episode this season when he needed to get pruned so Morbius could extract him from the timeline Oh I just remember that, thanks. So in other words I have no idea what I'm talking about lol. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:976906030] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>bfslick50 posted... </cite><quote>That was a past pruning for Loki, in the first episode this season when he needed to get pruned so Morbius could extract him from the timeline</quote>Oh I just remember that, thanks. So in other words I have no idea what I'm talking about lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 10/28/23 1:30:41 PM #28:	Miss Minutes is such an entertaining character. That look of joy on her face watching all those TVA Agents get crushed --- Ray has gone bye bye, Egon <cite>rexcrk posted [p:976906063] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>Miss Minutes is such an entertaining character. That look of joy on her face watching all those TVA Agents get crushed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 10/28/23 2:18:23 PM #29:	Prestoff posted... Oh I just remember that, thanks. So in other words I have no idea what I'm talking about lol. I had to rewatch the first episode cause I was so confused. Im really digging this season but I have no predictions. Literally anything could happen next. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:976906733] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>Prestoff posted... </cite><quote>Oh I just remember that, thanks. So in other words I have no idea what I'm talking about lol.</quote>I had to rewatch the first episode cause I was so confused. Im really digging this season but I have no predictions. Literally anything could happen next. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Auto_Chrisbot 10/28/23 9:07:03 PM #30:	@Northlane posted... Honestly this show makes no sense. What is the goal here? Are we preventing Kang? Why is the loom exploding? What are the stakes? There's alternate timelines, time travel, bootstrap paradoxes but none of it has been established to properly elicit some sort of emotional response from the audience I go on Reddit to the S2E4 discussion thread and not a single soul is talking about the writing, the plot or anything of substance instead opting for crap like "oh my god, people getting crushed in a box and you can hear bones breaking and blood dripping... darkest shit in the MCU!" and "that final shot of Tom Hiddleston is truly chilling" like what the fuck is this garbage? Am I living in a simulation? Can a Marvel fanboy PLEASE come in here and explain this shit Did you really just complain about people enjoying the show, instead of just nitpicking it to death and being a bummer like you? --- "Freedom is the right of all sentient beans" - Optimus Pintobean <cite>Auto_Chrisbot posted [p:976912641] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>@Northlane posted...</cite><quote>Honestly this show makes no sense. What is the goal here? Are we preventing Kang? Why is the loom exploding? What are the stakes? There's alternate timelines, time travel, bootstrap paradoxes but none of it has been established to properly elicit some sort of emotional response from the audienceI go on Reddit to the S2E4 discussion thread and not a single soul is talking about the writing, the plot or anything of substance instead opting for crap like "oh my god, people getting crushed in a box and you can hear bones breaking and blood dripping... darkest shit in the MCU!" and "that final shot of Tom Hiddleston is truly chilling" like what the fuck is this garbage? Am I living in a simulation?Can a Marvel fanboy PLEASE come in here and explain this shit</quote>Did you really just complain about people enjoying the show, instead of just nitpicking it to death and being a bummer like you? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eab1990 10/28/23 9:09:59 PM #31:	This whole season has been "Namek is gonna explode in five minutes". <cite>Eab1990 posted [p:976912689] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>This whole season has been "Namek is gonna explode in five minutes".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MatzoTov 10/30/23 12:02:16 PM #32:	Eab1990 posted... This whole season has been "Namek is gonna explode in five minutes". Elite post. --- Sigless by choice <cite>MatzoTov posted [p:976938289] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>Eab1990 posted... </cite><quote>This whole season has been "Namek is gonna explode in five minutes".</quote>Elite post. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 10/30/23 12:40:49 PM #33:	Eab1990 posted... This whole season has been "Namek is gonna explode in five minutes". But Goku didn't create something like three different causality loops that are going to be the reason the TVA is save-doomed. Or doom-saved. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:976938865] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>Eab1990 posted... </cite><quote>This whole season has been "Namek is gonna explode in five minutes".</quote>But Goku didn't create something like three different causality loops that are going to be the reason the TVA is save-doomed. Or doom-saved. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KalimariX8 10/30/23 10:40:09 PM #34:	The season has been really unfocused and confusing. I am eager to see what happens next episode --- member of the sam jackson alliance Kalimari <cite>KalimariX8 posted [p:976948883] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>The season has been really unfocused and confusing. I am eager to see what happens next episode </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mazingetter 10/31/23 12:14:09 AM #35:	It seems the TVA is only aware of their own continuity and its branches. They don't seem to know that other universes exist (prime, Ultimate, etc.). <cite>mazingetter posted [p:976950092] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>It seems the TVA is only aware of their own continuity and its branches. They don't seem to know that other universes exist (prime, Ultimate, etc.).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornyLevel 10/31/23 3:42:43 AM #36:	mazingetter posted... It seems the TVA is only aware of their own continuity and its branches. They don't seem to know that other universes exist (prime, Ultimate, etc.). What makes you say this? It seems to be established that they deal with the entire multiverse, which didn't happen till HWR was killed. --- Nani?!? <cite>HornyLevel posted [p:976951750] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>mazingetter posted... </cite><quote>It seems the TVA is only aware of their own continuity and its branches. They don't seem to know that other universes exist (prime, Ultimate, etc.).</quote>What makes you say this? It seems to be established that they deal with the entire multiverse, which didn't happen till HWR was killed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mazingetter 10/31/23 9:02:53 AM #37:	HornyLevel posted... What makes you say this? It seems to be established that they deal with the entire multiverse MCU TVA jurisdiction is limited to the MCU and its variant timelines. They are concerned with preventing divergences from the Sacred Timeline (Earth-199999). They are not the same as the prime TVA, who has jurisdiction over much of the Marvel multiverse and whose own He Who Remains is not a Kang variant. They monitor different realities to keep temporal disturbances to a minimum. Instead of abducting variants, they use Mobius clones and recruit candidates from across the multiverse. <cite>mazingetter posted [p:976954001] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>HornyLevel posted... </cite><quote>What makes you say this? It seems to be established that they deal with the entire multiverse</quote>MCU TVA jurisdiction is limited to the MCU and its variant timelines. They are concerned with preventing divergences from the Sacred Timeline (Earth-199999).They are not the same as the prime TVA, who has jurisdiction over much of the Marvel multiverse and whose own He Who Remains is not a Kang variant. They monitor different realities to keep temporal disturbances to a minimum. Instead of abducting variants, they use Mobius clones and recruit candidates from across the multiverse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KogaSteelfang 10/31/23 1:42:07 PM #38:	So, crazy fan theory time. Almost certainly entirely wrong. But the "mid season" trailer showed Loki meeting his friends before they were part of the TVA. I'm guessing he's the one who originally recruited this group to begin with and they return to the beginning of the TVA as the timekeepers. The mythical 3 that run it from behind the scenes for all time always. At least until Kang took over, erased everyone's mind to get rid of their control, and created his own set of timekeepers. It's also explain the 4 statues in his citadel. If they were statues of the 4 helping Loki, and OB is the one who brought Kang to power, maybe his statue was broken. Though, none of that makes sense with how I assume this will end with Loki taking He Who Remains place. Since he would've had to have designed for all that to happen retroactively. Which is dumb. <cite>KogaSteelfang posted [p:976958531] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>So, crazy fan theory time. Almost certainly entirely wrong.But the "mid season" trailer showed Loki meeting his friends before they were part of the TVA. I'm guessing he's the one who originally recruited this group to begin with and they return to the beginning of the TVA as the timekeepers. The mythical 3 that run it from behind the scenes for all time always. At least until Kang took over, erased everyone's mind to get rid of their control, and created his own set of timekeepers. It's also explain the 4 statues in his citadel. If they were statues of the 4 helping Loki, and OB is the one who brought Kang to power, maybe his statue was broken.Though, none of that makes sense with how I assume this will end with Loki taking He Who Remains place. Since he would've had to have designed for all that to happen retroactively. Which is dumb.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornyLevel 11/01/23 4:50:33 AM #39:	mazingetter posted... MCU TVA jurisdiction is limited to the MCU and its variant timelines. They are concerned with preventing divergences from the Sacred Timeline (Earth-199999). They are not the same as the prime TVA, who has jurisdiction over much of the Marvel multiverse and whose own He Who Remains is not a Kang variant. They monitor different realities to keep temporal disturbances to a minimum. Instead of abducting variants, they use Mobius clones and recruit candidates from across the multiverse. I haven't seen any evidence in the actual MCU of this. The comics are not the same. Both Loki and The Multiverse of Madness state that the MCU timeline is 616. --- Nani?!? <cite>HornyLevel posted [p:976970387] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>mazingetter posted... </cite><quote>MCU TVA jurisdiction is limited to the MCU and its variant timelines. They are concerned with preventing divergences from the Sacred Timeline (Earth-199999).They are not the same as the prime TVA, who has jurisdiction over much of the Marvel multiverse and whose own He Who Remains is not a Kang variant. They monitor different realities to keep temporal disturbances to a minimum. Instead of abducting variants, they use Mobius clones and recruit candidates from across the multiverse.</quote>I haven't seen any evidence in the actual MCU of this. The comics are not the same. Both Loki and The Multiverse of Madness state that the MCU timeline is 616. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mazingetter 11/01/23 6:40:26 PM #40:	HornyLevel posted... The comics are not the same. Both Loki and The Multiverse of Madness state that the MCU timeline is 616. Obviously, the comics are not the same. Doesn't change the fact that both the comics and MCU are part of the Marvel multiverse. Officially, MCU is Earth-199999, as stated by Marvel and assigned in-universe by the Captain Britain Corps (comics) and the Spider-Society (Across the Spider-Verse). Christine Palmer of Illuminati's Earth in MoM and Loki TVA labeled MCU as "616" because they are seeing it from their perspective. <cite>mazingetter posted [p:976981719] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>HornyLevel posted... </cite><quote>The comics are not the same. Both Loki and The Multiverse of Madness state that the MCU timeline is 616.</quote>Obviously, the comics are not the same. Doesn't change the fact that both the comics and MCU are part of the Marvel multiverse.Officially, MCU is Earth-199999, as stated by Marvel and assigned in-universe by the Captain Britain Corps (comics) and the Spider-Society (Across the Spider-Verse). Christine Palmer of Illuminati's Earth in MoM and Loki TVA labeled MCU as "616" because they are seeing it from their perspective.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornyLevel 11/01/23 9:30:30 PM #41:	mazingetter posted... Obviously, the comics are not the same. Doesn't change the fact that both the comics and MCU are part of the Marvel multiverse. Officially, MCU is Earth-199999, as stated by Marvel and assigned in-universe by the Captain Britain Corps (comics) and the Spider-Society (Across the Spider-Verse). Christine Palmer of Illuminati's Earth in MoM and Loki TVA labeled MCU as "616" because they are seeing it from their perspective. Seems like a lot of reaching if the MCU is one single timeline in the overall multiverse that includes the comics, and is now turning into it's own multiverse. Loki shows us the whole timeline and there are no attachment to anything else. So it's effectively completely removed from it. And if such is the case, then all Spider-Verse universes technically sprung up after HWR. It would make no sense all these others know about the MCU timeline, yet it's supposed to be completely cut off and not even attached in any way. If they know about it, then all the other comic Kangs would too, which would ruin HWR's whole plan. I mean, what you're saying is possible, but nothing seems explicit. Just speculation and filling in the blanks. --- Nani?!? <cite>HornyLevel posted [p:976984663] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>mazingetter posted... </cite><quote>Obviously, the comics are not the same. Doesn't change the fact that both the comics and MCU are part of the Marvel multiverse.Officially, MCU is Earth-199999, as stated by Marvel and assigned in-universe by the Captain Britain Corps (comics) and the Spider-Society (Across the Spider-Verse). Christine Palmer of Illuminati's Earth in MoM and Loki TVA labeled MCU as "616" because they are seeing it from their perspective.</quote>Seems like a lot of reaching if the MCU is one single timeline in the overall multiverse that includes the comics, and is now turning into it's own multiverse. Loki shows us the whole timeline and there are no attachment to anything else. So it's effectively completely removed from it. And if such is the case, then all Spider-Verse universes technically sprung up after HWR. It would make no sense all these others know about the MCU timeline, yet it's supposed to be completely cut off and not even attached in any way. If they know about it, then all the other comic Kangs would too, which would ruin HWR's whole plan. I mean, what you're saying is possible, but nothing seems explicit. Just speculation and filling in the blanks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 11/01/23 9:41:17 PM #42:	There is no situation in which the MCU, the comics, and the Spider-Verse are all canonically different multiverses in the same continuity. Any references are just that, easter eggs that should not be given any meaningful value to the plot. Trying to incorporate all of them together, especially in a show like Loki which deals entirely with the multiverse, is just folly. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:976984879] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>There is no situation in which the MCU, the comics, and the Spider-Verse are all canonically different multiverses in the same continuity. Any references are just that, easter eggs that should not be given any meaningful value to the plot. Trying to incorporate all of them together, especially in a show like Loki which deals entirely with the multiverse, is just folly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mazingetter 11/02/23 12:19:16 AM #43:	Every Marvel comics, cartoons, live-action, games, etc. are officially part of the infinite Marvel multiverse. A better explanation would be self-contained multiverses within an omniverse. From the perspective of the Captain Britain Corps and Spider-Society, they designated the main MCU as Earth-199999. From the perspective of certain MCU characters, they designated the main MCU as 616. <cite>mazingetter posted [p:976987132] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>Every Marvel comics, cartoons, live-action, games, etc. are officially part of the infinite Marvel multiverse. A better explanation would be self-contained multiverses within an omniverse.From the perspective of the Captain Britain Corps and Spider-Society, they designated the main MCU as Earth-199999. From the perspective of certain MCU characters, they designated the main MCU as 616.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 11/02/23 12:21:04 AM #44:	mazingetter posted... A better explanation would be self-contained multiverses within an omniverse. Which is the same thing as them being completely different, unrelated canons. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:976987159] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>mazingetter posted... </cite><quote>A better explanation would be self-contained multiverses within an omniverse.</quote>Which is the same thing as them being completely different, unrelated canons. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mazingetter 11/02/23 12:38:47 AM #45:	pegusus123456 posted... Which is the same thing as them being completely different, unrelated canons Yes, they are different, unrelated continuities but they officially exist within the larger Marvel multiverse. Certain characters outside of the MCU multiverse are aware of the MCU or the other live-action universes. <cite>mazingetter posted [p:976987359] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite><quote>Which is the same thing as them being completely different, unrelated canons</quote>Yes, they are different, unrelated continuities but they officially exist within the larger Marvel multiverse. Certain characters outside of the MCU multiverse are aware of the MCU or the other live-action universes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 11/02/23 12:44:19 AM #46:	mazingetter posted... Certain characters outside of the MCU multiverse are aware of the MCU or the other live-action universes. pegusus123456 posted... Any references are just that, easter eggs that should not be given any meaningful value to the plot --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:976987415] in Loki Seaso... [t:80603938]...</cite> <quote>mazingetter posted... </cite><quote>Certain characters outside of the MCU multiverse are aware of the MCU or the other live-action universes.</quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite><quote>Any references are just that, easter eggs that should not be given any meaningful value to the plot</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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