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ViewtifulJoe
11/01/23 7:03:57 PM
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I'm not sure why.
My best explanation is that it was next to KH2 on the shelf and that was more fun to revisit than I expected.

I did the opening part with Reks and now I'm playing as Vaan.
I played KOTOR a few years ago and this keeps reminding me of it.

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ANort175
11/01/23 7:05:33 PM
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Which version?

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ViewtifulJoe
11/01/23 7:08:50 PM
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ANort175 posted...
Which version?
Original PS2 release.
I've had this for over a decade.

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Xenogears15
11/01/23 7:09:00 PM
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Fuck Vaan and Panelo

All my homies hate Vaan and Panelo

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Relient_K
11/01/23 7:10:02 PM
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There are enough parts of it that I like to say I enjoy the game, but it is one of those games that I fully understand why someone would dislike it.

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ViewtifulJoe
11/01/23 7:19:50 PM
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Two main things I remember are constantly feeling horribly underlevelled and right near the end there's this big 100 floor lighthouse level with a giant guessing game crystal from hell level right after.

But nowadays I have way more patience for levelling.

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TheDurinator
11/01/23 7:23:00 PM
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The GOAT FF game, fuck the haters.
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ViewtifulJoe
11/01/23 8:46:07 PM
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I've been wandering around and fighting wolves in the desert.
But I only have Vaan, so anything I do is going to be slower than it'd be after I play up to the point where I get some more party members. I think I'll do that.

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ViewtifulJoe
11/01/23 10:21:44 PM
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So how does this Bazaar part of the shop work?
I just keep selling items or I sell specific items and suddenly new things become available?

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ViewtifulJoe
11/02/23 12:59:12 AM
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This is vaguely Xenoblade-like.
It's making me miss Xenoblade 1.

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Joelypoely
11/02/23 1:03:39 AM
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TheDurinator posted...
The GOAT FF game, fuck the haters.

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Xerun
11/02/23 1:13:17 AM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
So how does this Bazaar part of the shop work?
I just keep selling items or I sell specific items and suddenly new things become available?

theres specific recipes. The game keeps a count of what you sell and clears it when you achieve a recipe and leave the bazaar. Because of this you can game the system

ie: Recipe 1: 2A + 1B
Recipe 2: 1B + 2C
if you sell 2A, 1B, 2C then youll achieve both recipes
ViewtifulJoe posted...
I've been wandering around and fighting wolves in the desert.
But I only have Vaan, so anything I do is going to be slower than it'd be after I play up to the point where I get some more party members. I think I'll do that.

I think if you fight the Werewolves in the west desert they drop a pretty OP sword (although you may have to steal it I dont remember)

I also recommend the Zodiac Age. Since its got 4x speed


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ViewtifulJoe
11/02/23 1:33:09 PM
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You know the Hunter from Left 4 Dead?
That's what these guys remind me of whenever they find out an enemy drops more than 1 LP.

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ViewtifulJoe
11/03/23 7:22:44 PM
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Oh. I guess that's the end of that. It was a pretty old copy of the game so I can't act too surprised.

We were just starting to get along too.
I found out about Dustia. I hunted some marks. I found this guy Montblanc who exists solely to tell me I'm doing great. I remembered some old in-jokes. All 4 party members had at least 2 limit breaks, Basch had 3.
I had fun while it lasted.

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LordFarquad1312
11/03/23 7:24:33 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Original PS2 release.
I've had this for over a decade.
There's your problem.
Either play the Zodiac Age remaster or chuck that shit in the garbage.

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ViewtifulJoe
11/03/23 7:45:13 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
There's your problem.
Either play the Zodiac Age remaster or chuck that shit in the garbage.
I could definitely put Zodiac Age on my list of reasons to maybe get a Switch. The 2x/4x speed thing looks nice.

Technically I could still run around this one, it's when I ask Balthier to go to Bhujerba where it consistently locks up.

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IceCreamOnStero
11/03/23 7:46:13 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
This is vaguely Xenoblade-like.
It's making me miss Xenoblade 1.
I wish I could Xenoblade 1 again for the first time.

I could definitely put Zodiac Age on my list of reasons to maybe get a Switch. The 2x/4x speed thing looks nice.

Zodiac Age is on all the consoles and PC, you don't need a Switch for it.

That said I don't think it solves any of the game's issues. If you go on to not enjoy the PS2 version, I don't think the remaster would sway your opinion.

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ablegator
11/03/23 7:46:42 PM
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I picked up a switch over the summer so will probably pick up zodiac age

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JuanCarlos1
11/03/23 7:48:41 PM
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12 has the best gameplay in the franchise...with the worst developed characters and story

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LordFarquad1312
11/03/23 7:53:32 PM
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IceCreamOnStero posted...
I wish I could Xenoblade 1 again for the first time.

Zodiac Age is on all the consoles and PC, you don't need a Switch for it.

That said I don't think it solves any of the game's issues. If you go on to not enjoy the PS2 version, I don't think the remaster would sway your opinion.
It definitely solves a lot of the issues.

  1. No 9999 damage cap
  2. Turbo mode for faster travel and grinding
  3. Everyone can choose 2 specialization on the license board so that not everyone's a carbon copy of each other.
  4. Quickenings are separate from MP, so they are not worthless.
  5. Being on a platform not 23 years old means you can use high level spells without them entering into a spell queue, making them worse that their lower level counterparts.
There's probably more stuff I'm forgetting. FFXII is bottom tier garbage ass FF. Zodiac Age is top 5.

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IceCreamOnStero
11/03/23 7:57:20 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
It definitely solves a lot of the issues.

1. No 9999 damage cap
2. Turbo mode for faster travel and grinding
3. Everyone can choose 2 specialization on the license board so that not everyone's a carbon copy of each other.
4. Quickenings are separate from MP, so they are not worthless.
5. Being on a platform not 23 years old means you can use high level spells without them entering into a spell queue, making them worse that their lower level counterparts.
There's probably more stuff I'm forgetting. FFXII is bottom tier garbage ass FF. Zodiac Age is top 5.

The core gameplay loop of not actually playing the game remains though.

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ViewtifulJoe
11/03/23 8:01:49 PM
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IceCreamOnStero posted...
I wish I could Xenoblade 1 again for the first time.
I used to say this about FFX all the time. Then I just about got it through Xenoblade 1. Except Xenoblade 1 was actually about something unexpectedly relevant to me at the time.
Now I say what you said all the time.

I'd like a version with Xenoblade 1 but with FFX's monster arena so the game can keep going on and on for ages. And either an expanded epilogue or more epilogues so we can play as the other party members after the ending.

IceCreamOnStero posted...
Zodiac Age is on all the consoles and PC, you don't need a Switch for it.
I know, but I'm so bad at convincing myself to buy video games now.
I have this streak of not buying games. I'm trying to either find one special game worthy of breaking the streak or find enough games to sell myself on a new console.

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lilORANG
11/03/23 8:03:09 PM
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The game is beautiful ybh

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LordFarquad1312
11/03/23 8:08:31 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Happens to everyone. I had the worst impression of FF because my first game was the garbage ass PS1 port of V.

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loafy013
11/03/23 8:12:46 PM
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Combat in this game never clicked with me. If I can freely move around the battlefield, I don't want my actions to queue up. Maybe because I played Rogue Galaxy before and that felt good to me, so FF12 was just off in my mind.

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ViewtifulJoe
11/03/23 8:19:40 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
No 9999 damage cap
Turbo mode for faster travel and grinding
Everyone can choose 2 specialization on the license board so that not everyone's a carbon copy of each other.
Quickenings are separate from MP, so they are not worthless.
Being on a platform not 23 years old means you can use high level spells without them entering into a spell queue, making them worse that their lower level counterparts.
This sounds really nice too. Especially the specialisations.

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Nirvanas_Nox
11/03/23 8:22:18 PM
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IceCreamOnStero posted...
I wish I could Xenoblade 1 again for the first time.

Zodiac Age is on all the consoles and PC, you don't need a Switch for it.

That said I don't think it solves any of the game's issues. If you go on to not enjoy the PS2 version, I don't think the remaster would sway your opinion.

I'd say it solved a lot of issues. Especially the zodiac spear one where you had to have a guide of which pots not to touch since the spear would disappear if you opened the wrong one. Not to mention the job system. WAY better as well.

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Rharyx211
11/03/23 8:26:05 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
12 has the best gameplay in the franchise...with the worst developed characters and story
In a franchise that also includes FF15 and Type-0, I find this hard to believe.

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