Current Events > MTG thought Robert E. Lee was a "Founding Father"

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https://newrepublic.com/post/176644/marjorie-taylor-greene-history-lesson-robert-e-lee

Marjorie Taylor Greene got an embarrassing fact check on Thursday: Robert E. Lee wasnt a Founding Father.

While defending an amendment to protect against the removal of monuments depicting the Founding Fathers on federal land, Greene notably lumped in the removal of the Confederate generals image in Charlottesville as an example of how Communist Democrats have attempted to erase U.S. culture, way of life, and history.

Actually, there should be no funds allocated to remove any monument, and theres no necessary reason to remove the monuments, Greene said. This is the Democrats and the Biden administrations effort to erase our history, just as they have done to the statue of Robert E. Lee. This is an outrage.

Democratic Representative Chellie Pingree wasnt convinced that the Georgia congresswoman knew her facts, however.

Just to clear up a couple of things, my colleague mentioned the Founding Fathers. Robert E. Lee was not actually one of the Founding Fathers, he was a general of the Confederacy, Pingree said.

The Maine Democrat also said she found it rich that the party focused on book banning in our libraries, rewriting curriculum, not talking about our history over and over again, is the very one that is saying that we have to often keep painful monuments in places where they do damage, where they interfere with peoples ability to enjoy the particular area that theyre in.

Nearly 80 percent of Confederate monuments were erected between 1890 and 1940long after the end of the war and at the height of the Jim Crow erawhen Southern states legalized racial segregation under a system of racial apartheid.

Groups like the United Daughters of the Confederacy, which admitted the white daughters of Confederate soldiers and politicians, worked to instill a lost cause narrative of the war by placing Confederate flags in classrooms, monitoring textbooks, and ultimately, creating monuments.

Perhaps she meant the Confederate States?

Cheater87 posted...

Perhaps she meant the Confederate States?

Perhaps she's just an idiot.

Which do you think is more likely?

In her dream america, the confederacy won.

We may currently have the dumbest Congress in American history. They've got a shit ton of other issues, but gat damn there are some complete morons making laws these days.

Not wanting to honor traitors isn't "erasing history."

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brestugo posted...

Greene notably lumped in the removal of the Confederate generals image in Charlottesville as an example of how Communist Democrats have attempted to erase U.S. culture, way of life, and history.

Yet she herself does not know US culture, way of life, or history LMFAO

The Party of Lincoln, ladies and gentlemen.

It's so weird knowing you are genuinely smarter than people in government.

Ivynn posted...

It's so weird knowing you are genuinely smarter than people in government.

One of our reps barely managed a ged before taking office.

A quick google search pointed out that Lee was born in 1807, 31 years after the Declaration of Independence was ratified and signed in 1776.

Ivynn posted...

It's so weird knowing you are genuinely smarter than people in government.

For real. I used to think I wasn't smart enough to run for office, but Gangrene sets the bar so depressingly low.

MTG should learn history... assuming she can find a statue of history to absord historical knowledge out of.

Umbreon posted...

For real. I used to think I wasn't smart enough to run for office, but Gangrene sets the bar so depressingly low.

She's qualified in other ways.

You don't need intelligence, or an education, to fulfill the role Greene fulfills.

Which is to keep the unintelligent and uneducated in a permanent state of anger at what far left Joe Biden (!) and 'the woke' are doing.

ai123 posted...

You don't need intelligence, or an education, to fulfill the role Greene fulfills.

Which is to keep the unintelligent and uneducated in a permanent state of anger at what far left Joe Biden (!) and 'the woke' are doing.

Probably helps if you are an idiot. Cause then you are more likely to actually believe that nonsense.

Thompson posted...

MTG should learn history... assuming she can find a statue of history to absord historical knowledge out of.

Why?
She will always lean to Alternative History anyway.

The weird cultist worship of the confederacy is so fucking disgusting.

It was a slavers rebellion that lasted 4 years and people act like it was this noble religion or something.

Stonewall Jackson only gets viewed as a legend because he died (shot by his own men BTW) right around the time the confederacy started to lose the war. So he got all the glorious victories and few of the devistating losses.

He was a competent general but really nothing spectacular. Especially when it came to defensive warfar and troop movements were he frequently got lost and his lines broken.

Edit: I meant Stonewall Jackson. Not Robert E Lee lol

Guns_of_Verdun posted...

The weird cultist worship of the confederacy is so fucking disgusting.

It was a slavers rebellion that lasted 4 years and people act like it was this noble religion or something.

Robert E Lee only gets viewed as a legend because he died (shot by his own men BTW) right around the time the confederacy started to lose the war. So he got all the glorious victories and few of the devistating losses.

He was a competent general but really nothing spectacular. Especially when it came to defensive warfar and troop movements were he frequently got lost and his lines broken.

Lee survived the war and was the one to surrender

DarthAragorn posted...

Lee survived the war and was the one to surrender

You're 100% right

For some reason I was getting him and Stonewall Jackson confused.

Big L for me.

Guns_of_Verdun posted...

The weird cultist worship of the confederacy is so f***ing disgusting.

It's born out of Americans apparent disdain for big government and our rebellious nature. Hence why so many in the South subscribe to the "South will rise again!" nonsense.

I just don't get why they have to worship the failed rebellion built on the back of slaves.

You can be the party of counter culture without supporting/being white supremacists and slavers.

wackyteen posted...

You can be the party of counter culture without supporting/being white supremacists and slavers.

Yeah, why can't they just grow long hair, wear colorful clothes, smoke weed, listen to the Grateful Dead, and, like, totally chill out, man.

What makes that weirder tho is the Confederacy was not a free bastion. It was more guilty of the sins of Big Government than the north.

Taxes, conscription, removal of rights, imprisonment for opposing the government, no free press, no freedom of religion, literal legal inequality.

Much is made of Lincoln suspending habeas corpus (which I am not defending) but the Confederacy did it too. The slavers rebelled against America but I wouldn't say the Confederacy was reblibious in nature. The entire agenda of the confederacy was to maintain the status quo at all costs.

Thompson posted...

MTG should learn history... assuming she can find a statue of history to absord historical knowledge out of.

Learning is a Democrat conspiracy to make you Woke!

Cynrascal posted...

A quick google search pointed out that Lee was born in 1807, 31 years after the Declaration of Independence was ratified and signed in 1776.

"He was a fast learner!"

/s

Is she the reason we have dumb blonde jokes?

I feel like whoever invented dumb blonde
jokes knew that one day wed have a congresswoman whod live up to the name.

Wasn't there some dictator dude in the Middle East that got killed by the US? I vaguely remember statues being taken down and now I can't remember his name.

Guns_of_Verdun posted...

The weird cultist worship of the confederacy is so fucking disgusting.

It was a slavers rebellion that lasted 4 years and people act like it was this noble religion or something.

For some reason, (and I'm really scratching my head here as to why) Republicans seem to look back really fondly on when the south had slaves.

I don't think any founding fathers were even alive by the civil war. If you stretch really hard you could call Andrew Jackson a founding father but he was still dead before the civil war.

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

Is she the reason we have dumb blonde jokes?

I feel like whoever invented dumb blonde
jokes knew that one day wed have a congresswoman whod live up to the name.

Dumb blondes are portrayed as being really hot but also incredibly stupid.
MTG makes blind people wish they were blinder.

Surely MTG and her crew want to put up a bunch of Biden monuments then. I mean, if he is a Far-Left communist crime lord and the worst president history, then we need a bunch of statues or else we'll forget how evil he was.

>The parties never switched, Democrats have always been the real racists!

>Damn, ok, let's tear down these Confederate monuments dedicated to a largely Southern Democratic-run period of US history

>No! that's our heritage!

every fucking time with these people lol

This means her and her entire staff was unable to catch this is her speech. None even have a rudimentary understanding or knowledge of the country yet want to dictate to others what should be in it.

She's a dumbshit but she technically doesn't say anywhere in that article that he was a Founding Father, but rather is trying to insinuate that Democrats are trying to remove statues from people all across national history. Like in her world, Democrats are next eyeing to remove statues of former presidents that owned slaves or something. If she did directly refer to Robert E Lee as a Founding Father, then yeah, that's pretty funny, but I was kind of disappointed when I saw the actual quote. It's more like politicians twisting each others' words and MTG assuming people make leaps that she makes on her own.

All that said, fuck MTG and what she stands for.

LoZguy709 posted...

She's a dumbshit but she technically doesn't say anywhere in that article that he was a Founding Father, but rather is trying to insinuate that Democrats are trying to remove statues from people all across national history.

While defending an amendment to protect against the removal of monuments depicting the Founding Fathers on federal land
Greene notably lumped in the removal of the Confederate generals image in Charlottesville as an example of how Communist Democrats have attempted to erase U.S. culture, way of life, and history.

Actually, there should be no funds allocated to remove any monument, and theres no necessary reason to remove the monuments, Greene said. This is the Democrats and the Biden administrations effort to erase our history, just as they have done to the statue of Robert E. Lee. This is an outrage.

Eh I would say bringing up Lee's statue when it's specifically about an amendment to protect against the removal of monuments depicting the Founding Fathers on federal land as a big sticking point means she probably did think Lee is a founding father. Either way I don't think it's twisting her words to point that out or make the assumption she didn't know what she was talking about.

X8Azazel8X posted...

While defending an amendment to protect against the removal of monuments depicting the Founding Fathers on federal land
Greene notably lumped in the removal of the Confederate generals image in Charlottesville as an example of how Communist Democrats have attempted to erase U.S. culture, way of life, and history.

Actually, there should be no funds allocated to remove any monument, and theres no necessary reason to remove the monuments, Greene said. This is the Democrats and the Biden administrations effort to erase our history, just as they have done to the statue of Robert E. Lee. This is an outrage.

Eh I would say bringing up Lee's statue when it's specifically about an amendment to protect against the removal of monuments depicting the Founding Fathers on federal land as a big sticking point means she probably did think Lee is a founding father. Either way I don't think it's twisting her words to point that out or make the assumption she didn't know what she was talking about.

Of course she should be called out for doing her usual fearmongering shit. The context just makes me skeptical that she literally thought Lee was such. She has much better idiotic moments to go after than this.

Actually, there should be no funds allocated to remove any monument, and theres no necessary reason to remove the monuments, Greene said. This is the Democrats and the Biden administrations effort to erase our history, just as they have done to the statue of Robert E. Lee. This is an outrage.

"Liberals think everyone deserves a participation trophy." - Republicans

"Liberals are trying to remove monuments dedicated to the losers of the American Civil War!" - also Republicans

ai123 posted...

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*Taps the x voraciously*

The standard for republican/confederacy apologist/whatever intelligence is so low nowadays I actually have to think if MTG is stupid even for them, or she is just an ordinary stupid fascist and 90% of them would've thought the same thing

They certainly feel about as strongly about Robert E. Lee at least

(I feel like I already know the answer as to whether or not this will ever happen, but I really would like to see one, and I do mean literally one, of them to bring up the party switch.)

I'm not surprised in the least

Republicans seem to think the confederacy was around for decades for some reason.

I remember reading on Robert E. Lee in school.

They glorized him as a Virginian who fought for the Confederacy simply because of Virginia was a Confederate state.

Even then, I saw him as a confused man who didn't know right from wrong and that he was being a baby about things.

Years later, I still wish I could dump my family and find a girlfriend who would love me as a woman.

I hate this world.

itachi15243 posted...

I'm not surprised in the least

Republicans seem to think the confederacy was around for decades for some reason.

They also seem to not know that most Confederate statues were built years later to protest the fact that black people were free and intimidate them.

hockeybub89 posted...

They also seem to not know that most Confederate statues were built years later to protest the fact that black people were free and intimidate them.

In a hurry too

A lot of Confederate statues are shit because they were so reactionary.

hockeybub89 posted...

They also seem to not know that most Confederate statues were built years later to protest the fact that black people were free and intimidate them.

I think intimidation was more a factor in why they went up than any notion of "honor".

pegusus123456 posted...

Perhaps she's just an idiot.

Which do you think is more likely?

Honestly it's probably both.

The CSA is no doubt her ideal America and she's also an idiot.

I cant imagine having a large part of my country see their ancestors treason as something to aspire to. You assholes lost the war. Youre lucky restoration was fucked up as much as it was to even give you statehood back.

MTG's parents were obviously brother and sister, who smoke and drank heavily when they were pregnant with her.

Ask her if she defends memorial statues that glorify Lenin or Stalin as a way of protecting history against erasure.