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StealThisSheen
11/07/23 8:52:52 PM
#201:


invertedlegdrop posted...
That way no one can take out your ballot and change it later...

Why do you think this is a thing that actually happens? Please explain.

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invertedlegdrop
11/07/23 8:53:44 PM
#202:


Doe posted...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mississippis-hinds-county-runs-out-of-ballots-on-election-night

Bad news: Mississippi's most populous County ran out of ballots in 9 precincts

Good news: They say it was because of uncharacteristically big turnout for Mississippi and a court approved an order to keep the polls open while more ballots were printed

You won't see DCDraino talk about this one though >_>

it was only for an extra hour which ends in 8 minutes, but a good move. If paper ballots are coming back in vogue at least have enough ready by November, since you got a month to count how many registered voters in an area you have..

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Forty_Niners
11/07/23 8:56:24 PM
#203:


https://twitter.com/OhNoSheTwitnt/status/1128978830029459458

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BunkerBoy
11/07/23 8:57:44 PM
#204:


Forty_Niners posted...
https://twitter.com/OhNoSheTwitnt/status/1128978830029459458
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Charismic_Zach_Gowen
11/07/23 8:58:43 PM
#205:


invertedlegdrop posted...
it was only for an extra hour which ends in 8 minutes, but a good move. If paper ballots are coming back in vogue at least have enough ready by November, since you got a month to count how many registered voters in an area you have..

It's not that simple. Republicans rig it so that these precincts only get $X to run elections so they have to choose between ballots or workers

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Starks
11/07/23 8:59:13 PM
#206:


Jackson, Mississippi. New York. You're up.

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Block_that_Kick
11/07/23 8:59:48 PM
#207:


Pizza party in a Mississippi voting line near you!

PS, this would be a crime in Georgia.

https://twitter.com/BrandonPresley/status/1722053822707908952

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Heineken14
11/07/23 9:00:52 PM
#208:


Block_that_Kick posted...
Pizza party in a Mississippi voting line near you!

PS, this would be a crime in Georgia.

https://twitter.com/BrandonPresley/status/1722053822707908952


Omg they're going to change their votes to people who gave them the pizza! - dumb fuck right wing arguments when doing everything they can to suppress votes

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invertedlegdrop
11/07/23 9:01:07 PM
#209:


StealThisSheen posted...
Why do you think this is a thing that actually happens? Please explain.

It was common in earlier American history specifically the late 1800s and 1900s...

The person in charge of the ballot box would sometimes (if he was corrupt) open up the ballot box and toss out or "lose" several votes of the candidate he was against or change them to the person he wanted to win...after the voting ended on election day... The Jim Crow Democrats of the South were notorious for this and the Big City Northern Republican and Democrat political machines also pulled these dirty tricks often...

When touch machines were starting to flare up due to 2000, people said it would insure every vote would be counted with little error...now though with voting machines having a less than stellar rep, some states are returning to the paper ballot formula but with a scanner to be counted right there, that way no one can change the paper ballots once the polls close...

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Starks
11/07/23 9:01:58 PM
#210:


Handing out food and water really should be left to non-partisan groups or poll site workers. Electioneering lines exist for a reason.

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Heineken14
11/07/23 9:02:54 PM
#211:


invertedlegdrop posted...
now though with voting machines having a less than stellar rep


Right wingers lying about them doesn't mean they have a bad rep.

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StealThisSheen
11/07/23 9:03:01 PM
#212:


invertedlegdrop posted...
now though with voting machines having a less than stellar rep

Explain further.

invertedlegdrop posted...
that way no one can change the paper ballots once the polls close...

Also explain why you think this is a concern TODAY. In detail, please.

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invertedlegdrop
11/07/23 9:03:45 PM
#213:


Also to point out if Presley somehow wins tonight, he is basically a moderate, he's no progressive bigwig... Tate is just that unpopular and both leftist and several right wing folk cant stand him...

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Doom_Art
11/07/23 9:04:23 PM
#214:


invertedlegdrop posted...
Also to point out if Presley somehow wins tonight, he is basically a moderate, he's no progressive bigwig... Tate is just that unpopular and both leftist and several right wing folk cant stand him...
I'd take a moderate democrat over a republican any day of the week

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Forty_Niners
11/07/23 9:05:23 PM
#215:


invertedlegdrop posted...
Also to point out if Presley somehow wins tonight, he is basically a moderate, he's no progressive bigwig... Tate is just that unpopular and both leftist and several right wing folk cant stand him...
The worst Dem is still better than the best Republican.

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ShaneMcComez
11/07/23 9:06:31 PM
#216:


Did I miss anything the last 45 minutes? I heard things are going good for Dems in Virginia.

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CADE_FOSTER
11/07/23 9:06:39 PM
#217:


Block_that_Kick posted...
Pizza party in a Mississippi voting line near you!

PS, this would be a crime in Georgia.

https://twitter.com/BrandonPresley/status/1722053822707908952
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Doom_Art
11/07/23 9:07:17 PM
#218:


ShaneMcComez posted...
Did I miss anything the last 45 minutes? I heard things are going good for Dems in Virginia.
Dave Wasserman has just called the Virginia Senate for the Democrats.

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invertedlegdrop
11/07/23 9:07:58 PM
#219:


Heineken14 posted...
Right wingers lying about them doesn't mean they have a bad rep.

Im talking about their malfunction frequency which isnt that good, it seems like every election we see news stories about these happening...
StealThisSheen posted...


Also explain why you think this is a concern TODAY. In detail, please.

Why take a chance? If corrupt people could modify paper ballots then, why couldn't they now?


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mybbqrules
11/07/23 9:08:15 PM
#220:


Doe posted...
They always make it unclear with the abortion votes, is Issue 1 in Ohio Yes = pro choice No = ban?
Repubs actually switched it, I heard. Either first time around was No on 1 and this time it's yes on 1, or something.

Just more subterfuge from the right because they can't win on the actual merits of their policies. They have to try to trick people.

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Heineken14
11/07/23 9:08:52 PM
#221:


invertedlegdrop posted...
Im talking about their malfunction frequency which isnt that good, it seems like every election we see news stories about these happening...


From right wingers wink wink nudge nudging (and sometimes openly) claiming voter fraud.

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StealThisSheen
11/07/23 9:09:42 PM
#222:


invertedlegdrop posted...
Why take a chance? If corrupt people could modify paper ballots then, why couldn't they now?

That's not an answer. What chance do you think there is that election fraud is occurring, today, or in the recent past, in the way you are suggesting?

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Starks
11/07/23 9:10:11 PM
#223:


I should add that handing out food or water or hand warmers and the like is banned in New York. We are working on it.

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SpawnShadow
11/07/23 9:10:45 PM
#224:


mybbqrules posted...
Repubs actually switched it, I heard. Either first time around was No on 1 and this time it's yes on 1, or something.

Just more subterfuge from the right because they can't win on the actual merits of their policies. They have to try to trick people.
The last "Issue 1" was a hasty measure to quickly stop this "Issue 1" (and Issue 2, IIRC) from even being on the ballot now.
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ShaneMcComez
11/07/23 9:10:58 PM
#225:


Doom_Art posted...
Dave Wasserman has just called the Virginia Senate for the Democrats.
Neat. Hopefully the House is still in play.

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Starks
11/07/23 9:11:18 PM
#226:


It would have been on the ballot regardless and it looks like yes would win even at 60% margin.

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GeminiDeus
11/07/23 9:11:58 PM
#227:


So glad KY is keeping Andy. These damn things are always so much closer than they should be. I know way more Republicans than I do fellow Dems.

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Zero_Destroyer
11/07/23 9:12:20 PM
#228:


this is a walk for Dems tonight jesus christ lol

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invertedlegdrop
11/07/23 9:12:51 PM
#229:


StealThisSheen posted...
That's not an answer. What chance do you think there is that election fraud is occurring, today, or in the recent past, in the way you are suggesting?

Where have i said anything about voter fraud today? I was using historical examples as to why we moved from paper ballots to machines and now some states are going back to paper ballots. That's all...

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Forty_Niners
11/07/23 9:13:03 PM
#230:


Starks posted...
I should add that handing out food or water or hand warmers and the like is banned in New York. We are working on it.
It's truly mind blowing that New York has among the worst election system in the country, rivalling Texas and Georgia.

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Euripides
11/07/23 9:14:03 PM
#231:


CNN is calling victory for Issue 1

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Zero_Destroyer
11/07/23 9:14:05 PM
#232:


ShaneMcComez posted...
Neat. Hopefully the House is still in play.

https://projects.cnalysis.com/23-24/state-leg/results/virginia#lower

For all VA stuff. Wasserman is just calling what he sees here afaik

Dems are favored to flip the VA House

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StealThisSheen
11/07/23 9:14:27 PM
#233:


invertedlegdrop posted...
Where have i said anything about voter fraud today?

Changing ballots would be election fraud. So please explain why you think it might happen?

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BunkerBoy
11/07/23 9:15:26 PM
#234:


invertedlegdrop posted...
it seems like every election we see news stories about these happening...
Referring to actual fake news?
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Flaming_Fire619
11/07/23 9:16:07 PM
#235:


mybbqrules posted...
Repubs actually switched it, I heard. Either first time around was No on 1 and this time it's yes on 1, or something.

Just more subterfuge from the right because they can't win on the actual merits of their policies. They have to try to trick people.

To clarify. Issue 1 in August was basically an attempt by Republicans to make it so that the actual Issue 1 now wouldn't pass

Issue 1 in August would have raised the requirements for both votes (I believe it'd need 60% rather than simple majority) as well as make it so that in order for any citizen petition amendment to get on the ballot, you would need to collect signatures from every single county in Ohio plus have a % of Yeses for the amendment based on the voting population of the county. It would have effectively destroyed citizen amendments and petitions due to how strict it was going to be.

If Issue 1 had gone through based on the results of tonight Issue 1 for November would have failed, and we would probably never see another petition amendment again.

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MistyKnight
11/07/23 9:16:41 PM
#236:


StealThisSheen posted...
Why do you think this is a thing that actually happens? Please explain.
Because republicans have done it before

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Humble_Novice
11/07/23 9:16:46 PM
#237:


https://twitter.com/DKElections/status/1722073740517740899

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mybbqrules
11/07/23 9:16:53 PM
#238:


Block_that_Kick posted...
Look, if Presley wins tonight, the edible I had an hour ago is gonna hit different.
You took it an hour before and it hadn't hit yet?

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ShaneMcComez
11/07/23 9:17:56 PM
#239:


Zero_Destroyer posted...
https://projects.cnalysis.com/23-24/state-leg/results/virginia#lower

For all VA stuff. Wasserman is just calling what he sees here afaik

Dems are favored to flip the VA House
I'll have to keep refreshing that page and the Mississippi Governor race page as I think those are the two last big elections now. With Kentucky Governorship, Virginia Senate, and the Ohio abortion & weed ballots being pretty much decided.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
11/07/23 9:18:50 PM
#241:


What's the outlook, broadly?

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invertedlegdrop
11/07/23 9:19:00 PM
#242:


StealThisSheen posted...
Changing ballots would be election fraud. So please explain why you think it might happen?

Because parties want their candidate to win?

Besides the main flaw of paper ballots WAS that they could be changed after being cast, now with the new system we use today where the vote is scanned when cast, it eliminates that flaw...hence why some states are returning to paper ballots as now the only real issue with paper ballots is that they need to print enough...

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invertedlegdrop
11/07/23 9:21:35 PM
#243:


As for MS just about all the major races the Republicans are well ahead but it'll take longer to call since there was a brief extension to 8 pm...

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Block_that_Kick
11/07/23 9:22:09 PM
#244:


mybbqrules posted...
You took it an hour before and it hadn't hit yet?

Medications (and drugs) take hours to hit me after I use them.

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UnholyMudcrab
11/07/23 9:22:21 PM
#245:


invertedlegdrop posted...
Besides the main flaw of paper ballots WAS that they could be changed after being cast
I don't think anyone with any memory of the 2000 election would claim that's the biggest flaw with paper ballots

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Humble_Novice
11/07/23 9:23:49 PM
#246:


https://twitter.com/samshirazim/status/1722077312055746630

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Starks
11/07/23 9:24:42 PM
#247:


Forty_Niners posted...
It's truly mind blowing that New York has among the worst election system in the country, rivalling Texas and Georgia.
It took a lot of legislation to fix the bulk of it and add early voting.

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invertedlegdrop
11/07/23 9:25:49 PM
#248:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
I don't think anyone with any memory of the 2000 election would claim that's the biggest flaw with paper ballots

hanging chads were a problem too i concede...

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mybbqrules
11/07/23 9:27:45 PM
#249:


Block_that_Kick posted...
Medications (and drugs) take hours to hit me after I use them.
Damn, I bet that's fun to plan.

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Humble_Novice
11/07/23 9:28:05 PM
#250:


https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1722076650026811584

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