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DarthAragorn
11/15/23 1:50:09 AM
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Like holy shit it's impressively bad. I wish I could refund it, and I have some low ass standards for games.

This makes Ghosts and Infinite Warfare look like masterpieces.

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Eab1990
11/15/23 1:54:54 AM
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Infinite Warfare wasn't bad though.
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Dark_Arbron
11/15/23 1:56:43 AM
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The Slaughtering Grounds.

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DarthAragorn
11/15/23 2:02:22 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
The Slaughtering Grounds.
Haven't played it but this is worse

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Hexenherz
11/15/23 2:02:35 AM
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all I know is it got bad reviews but I don't really understand why

I thought these were just remasters of the earlier Modern Warfare games

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Smashingpmkns
11/15/23 2:03:04 AM
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Hasn't it basically been the same shit for the past few games now anyway

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Coca-Cola
11/15/23 2:11:03 AM
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COD is the most recycled thing in gaming

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Dark_Arbron
11/15/23 2:15:02 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Haven't played it but this is worse

Oh, if only you knew.

The Slaughtering Grounds was a shitty asset flip made by Digital Homicide, one of the most infamously scummy indie developers of all time.

If youre ever bored and want to see an absolute farce, YouTube Jim Sterling Digital Homicide. Its quite a saga.

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DarthAragorn
11/15/23 2:16:27 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Hasn't it basically been the same shit for the past few games now anyway
If fucking only

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FL81
11/15/23 2:28:03 AM
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Worse than Battlefield 2042?

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KalimariX8
11/15/23 2:29:16 AM
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What exactly is so bad about it?

Is a certain gun or archetype overpowered? The nostalgia of the old maps seem fun, but all I'm hearing is horrible reviews

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bnui_ransder
11/15/23 2:32:54 AM
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Infinite Warfare had a great campaign

The multi-player was also great, every gun was very usable and I was able to max out every gun

It really gave me the feel the original MW2 gave me

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DepreceV2
11/15/23 2:41:50 AM
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KalimariX8 posted...
What exactly is so bad about it?

Is a certain gun or archetype overpowered? The nostalgia of the old maps seem fun, but all I'm hearing is horrible reviews

There are a bunch of problems here is a big one that stands out. The progression/unlock system. I dont have the game so I could be slightly off, but how you unlock EVERY ITEM IN THE GAME is based on DAILY CHALLENGES. This goes from Streaks to Attachments. There are also only 3 daily challenges. Once you are out, you have to win games to get more challenges so you can unlock more stuff. It is fucking abysmal.

Not only that, most of the guns are from MWII 2022 that were brought over from that game. I dont mean its reused in the way you think. I mean its copy and pasted over with all the stuff you unlocked for them. Sounds kinda OK at first but there is a few problems. First off, all the guns freaking suck apparently. Ive heard that the guns are still coded for MWII which had 100 HP and MWIII has 150. So they are all pretty much garbage. To top it off, there are only a handful of new weapons that were added to MWIII. No idea how many but people are saying its not a lot.

So combine that with the trash unlock system and the only maps on release is every MW2 2009 map remastered and that is your game. There is also things like ABYSMAL spawns. So much so that a bunch of maps in different modes have been disabled because people are spawning in front of enemy teams over and over again or SPAWNING WITH THE ENEMY. Many perks also dont seem to work either.

Im sure there is so much more and this is just the MP. The campaign might be the worst ever made along with its Zombie mode.

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DarthAragorn
11/15/23 2:43:55 AM
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FL81 posted...
Worse than Battlefield 2042?
Yes

KalimariX8 posted...
What exactly is so bad about it?

Is a certain gun or archetype overpowered? The nostalgia of the old maps seem fun, but all I'm hearing is horrible reviews
Yes

SMGs are entirely useless at all ranges unless you play hardcore where they're just mostly useless - and you have to deal with everyone in the entire game just laying prone in one area the entire match. ARs are fine, battle rifles which are basically just bigger ARs seem better being basically the only gun that can reliably get 3 shot kills.

They gave everyone 50% more health in this game and it doesn't work well at all. Either the servers and hit detection are fucked or something else is going on because it seems entirely random whether guns are 3 hit kills or fucking 6 to 8.

And the matchmaking is the absolute worst I've ever seen. I don't think I'm a great player but I could frequently put up games where I had a 3 or 4 K/D, and my bad games I was still upper half of the scoreboard. My absolute best game in the last dozen or so I've played is one kill over a 1.0.

The old maps also just don't play well with the dumb shit they've added to the series lately - weapon mounting which makes people harder to hit while giving them zero recoil. And the increased movement speed with dumbassery like jumping around corners and slide canceling or whatever the fuck just makes it so whoever moves around like more of a moron has the advantage.

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UnholyMudcrab
11/15/23 2:44:09 AM
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Looks like someone never had John Romero make them his bitch

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Cheater87
11/15/23 2:47:18 AM
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What is that, a COD copy paste game?

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DarthAragorn
11/15/23 2:47:49 AM
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DepreceV2 posted...
There are a bunch of problems here is a big one that stands out. The progression/unlock system. I dont have the game so I could be slightly off, but how you unlock EVERY ITEM IN THE GAME is based on DAILY CHALLENGES. This goes from Streaks to Attachments. There are also only 3 daily challenges. Once you are out, you have to win games to get more challenges so you can unlock more stuff. It is fucking abysmal.

Not only that, most of the guns are from MWII 2022 that were brought over from that game. I dont mean its reused in the way you think. I mean its copy and pasted over with all the stuff you unlocked for them. Sounds kinda OK at first but there is a few problems. First off, all the guns freaking suck apparently. Ive heard that the guns are still coded for MWII which had 100 HP and MWIII has 150. So they are all pretty much garbage. To top it off, there are only a handful of new weapons that were added to MWIII. No idea how many but people are saying its not a lot.

So combine that with the trash unlock system and the only maps on release is every MW2 2009 map remastered and that is your game. There is also things like ABYSMAL spawns. So much so that a bunch of maps in different modes have been disabled because people are spawning in front of enemy teams over and over again or SPAWNING WITH THE ENEMY. Many perks also dont seem to work either.

Im sure there is so much more and this is just the MP. The campaign might be the worst ever made along with its Zombie mode.
This is accurate.

The unlock system isn't entirely a horrible idea but with the matchmaking getting wins is fucking impossible if you're playing alone. My last 10 games I have a 0.43 win/loss ratio. In Modern Warfare 2019 I had over a 2.0.

Also yeah I think some of the perks are bugged. I'm frequently being fucking laser beamed by people turning around for no reason while running ghost and dead silence. I could see it happening occasionally, but it seems really frequent. EOD, which reduces explosive damage, does absolutely nothing. I go from full health to dead from random ass grenades I have zero indication of them existing.

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RchHomieQuanChi
11/15/23 2:50:59 AM
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COD is so stale at this point. It's like they don't know what to do with the franchise anymore

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CervusCanadensi
11/15/23 2:55:57 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Like holy shit it's impressively bad. I wish I could refund it, and I have some low ass standards for games.

This makes Ghosts and Infinite Warfare look like masterpieces.
Lol LMAO

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DepreceV2
11/15/23 2:56:26 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
COD is so stale at this point. It's like they don't know what to do with the franchise anymore

A big reason for that is Activision refuses to delay games. Literally every game released after Modern Warfare 2019 was either developed in a very short amount of time because a team had to pivot to save the game or a team had to stop making what they were making to make some other CoD out of nowhere. Its been a shit show. MAYBE MWII 2022 didnt have that problem but I dont remember

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Thermador446
11/15/23 3:09:00 AM
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FL81 posted...
Worse than Battlefield 2042?


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DepreceV2
11/15/23 3:14:07 AM
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Current version of BF2042 DESTROYS MWIII. Im fact, BF2042 has had a massive player count resurgence because its actually good now

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MrCokeacola
11/15/23 5:44:27 AM
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Finally WWII Combat: Road to Berlin is not last place anymore!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr4FCRX4vu4

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spikethedevil
11/15/23 6:04:02 AM
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Daikatana.

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FinalBraveNUT
11/15/23 6:07:18 AM
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Very dislike yes

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apocalyptic_4
11/15/23 6:07:59 AM
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The beta told me as much this was DLC turned into a full game. Content meant for MWII that was pushed into this cheap cash grab. I'm not a big Cod fan but after waiting for MWII to get these maps only to be bamboozled by Activision moving this content over to MWIII that's even less polished than MWII left a really bad taste in my mouth.


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Akagami_Shanks
11/15/23 6:10:22 AM
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as to the progression system, you can just do the zombies dailies then farm contracts. 3 contracts = 1 daily. You can grind out a bunch of contracts within the 45 min period of zombies. You can also just pick up guns and equipment in zombies and exfil with it to unlock it in the main game. I literally only have a handful of weapons left to unlock and i'm not even level 55 nor did I play MW2 much.

Just make a mental note of the guns you want/don't have, pick it up from either wall buys, loot stashes, mystery box(this is a good one because it's relatively cheap AND gives you a high rarity weapon for bonus damage) or mercenaries that you kill. Sometimes reward caches drop weapons too.

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DepreceV2
11/15/23 9:46:26 AM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
as to the progression system, you can just do the zombies dailies then farm contracts. 3 contracts = 1 daily. You can grind out a bunch of contracts within the 45 min period of zombies. You can also just pick up guns and equipment in zombies and exfil with it to unlock it in the main game. I literally only have a handful of weapons left to unlock and i'm not even level 55 nor did I play MW2 much.

Just make a mental note of the guns you want/don't have, pick it up from either wall buys, loot stashes, mystery box(this is a good one because it's relatively cheap AND gives you a high rarity weapon for bonus damage) or mercenaries that you kill. Sometimes reward caches drop weapons too.

Why do people have to do all of that? Why cant they just unlock the stuff they want by playing the game like normal and using the guns they want?


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Kaldrenthebold
11/15/23 9:50:16 AM
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Why did you buy it in the first place

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royic
11/15/23 9:50:53 AM
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What is cod these days? Is this really a remaster of the earlier games or are they just using the name?

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BroodRyu
11/15/23 9:55:25 AM
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What makes it worse than the average CoD? Are there bugs? Does the shooting feel off?
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Dark_Arbron
11/15/23 10:01:16 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
SMGs are entirely useless at all ranges unless you play hardcore where they're just mostly useless - and you have to deal with everyone in the entire game just laying prone in one area the entire match. ARs are fine, battle rifles which are basically just bigger ARs seem better being basically the only gun that can reliably get 3 shot kills.

Kinda similar situation to Counter-Strike.

The first round is the pistol round, but whichever team wins then gets enough money to buy rifles. The SMGs are just... not worth the price. And yes, there were people who achieved godly skill with the MP-15, but they still didn't compare to those who mastered the AK-47 and especially the AWP.

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Weezy_Tha_Don
11/15/23 10:08:45 AM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Current version of BF2042 DESTROYS MWIII. Im fact, BF2042 has had a massive player count resurgence because its actually good now

yep. I havent played it for a couple months but prior to that I was enjoying it quite a bit

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Eab1990
11/15/23 10:11:27 AM
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Hexenherz posted...
all I know is it got bad reviews but I don't really understand why

I thought these were just remasters of the earlier Modern Warfare games

royic posted...
What is cod these days? Is this really a remaster of the earlier games or are they just using the name?

Since no one's answering these, I guess I have to.

It's a reboot, though arguably for the worse. I haven't played new MW2 or MW3 though.

Spoilers.
-Ghost lives, but practically upstages Soap as the deuteragonist. Gaz also lives.
-Shephard still betrays the team, but both his motive and circumstances are way worse. Long story short, no nuke bombed his men, so instead, he... does illegal arms dealing and needs to cover it up?
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FL81
11/15/23 1:47:49 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Current version of BF2042 DESTROYS MWIII. Im fact, BF2042 has had a massive player count resurgence because its actually good now
Sweet, I'm a huge Battlefield fan and knowing the EA cycle, I only need to wait 3 years for their games to become good!

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Akagami_Shanks
11/15/23 5:46:17 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Why do people have to do all of that? Why cant they just unlock the stuff they want by playing the game like normal and using the guns they want?
Cause they wanted a daily grind to keep people playing, seemed pretty obvious.

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KFHEWUI
11/15/23 5:55:17 PM
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Even worse than The Fortress of Dr. Radiaki?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIosoNA9iso

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Irony
11/15/23 5:56:17 PM
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It's garbage but worst ever nah try playing stuff like Daikatana

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Irony
11/15/23 6:08:03 PM
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Infinite Warfare is also garbage

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DepreceV2
11/15/23 7:08:32 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
Cause they wanted a daily grind to keep people playing, seemed pretty obvious.

That kind of system can do the opposite and push people away. This isnt some mobile game

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Akagami_Shanks
11/15/23 7:10:32 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
That kind of system can do the opposite and push people away. This isnt some mobile game
people love that kind of pointless grinding. it's why battle passes are still around

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WrestlinFan
11/15/23 7:21:21 PM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
The Slaughtering Grounds.
I mean is that a real game worth considering though. There's probably a 100,000 pieces of crap technically worse than MWIII littering Steam.

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DepreceV2
11/15/23 7:21:52 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
people love that kind of pointless grinding. it's why battle passes are still around

Thats not the same. Battlepasses typically dont lock fundamental parts of the game behind them in a AAA game. Also you can level your battlepass up as much as you want without limit. You dont get locked out if not being able to level it up unless you win games

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Akagami_Shanks
11/15/23 7:47:54 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Thats not the same. Battlepasses typically dont lock fundamental parts of the game behind them in a AAA game. Also you can level your battlepass up as much as you want without limit. You dont get locked out if not being able to level it up unless you win games
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DepreceV2
11/15/23 7:55:07 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
ithen play zombies and do contracts or better yet don't play the game at all

I'm not playing the game at all. I already said that. Just because I don't play the game doesn't mean I can't have an opinion about the game. Especially since I have been playing CoD since 2009 until now. This is the first one I didn't buy. It's clear you are just going to blindly defend the game. When I'm criticizing the game for it's bad design, I'm not looking for workarounds or justifications for it's bad design. That doesn't counter the criticism at all. In fact, it seems to justify what I said. Telling someone who has 14 years of investment in a franchise to just not play it instead of criticize it is just silly. I want the franchise to be better so I can buy it again.

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Akagami_Shanks
11/15/23 8:11:40 PM
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ok, have fun

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Calwings
11/15/23 8:41:28 PM
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MW3 has a ton of issues on the technical side of things. There's bugs and glitches. The armory credits system for unlocks sucks. The campaign is shit, but I don't care about the campaign anyways. Zombies is a mixed bag but has potential. The SBMM/EOMM/whatever sucks, but that's from the higher-ups and Sledgehammer has no say in that. There's no doubt that MW3 has a lot of flaws.

But based on the beta and the couple of days I've been playing the full game, I think the core multiplayer gameplay is really good and really fun. I'm enjoying it far more than any CoD MP in recent memory, and when the core gameplay is this fun, I can overlook the flaws around it a lot easier.

I'd much rather have a fun but flawed game like MW3 than a slow, dull, boring, unfun, polished turd of a game like last year's MW2.

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DarthAragorn
11/15/23 8:43:19 PM
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Calwings posted...
MW3 has a ton of issues on the technical side of things. There's bugs and glitches. The armory credits system for unlocks sucks. The campaign is shit, but I don't care about the campaign anyways. Zombies is a mixed bag but has potential. The SBMM/EOMM/whatever sucks, but that's from the higher-ups and Sledgehammer has no say in that. There's no doubt that MW3 has a lot of flaws.

But based on the beta and the couple of days I've been playing the full game, I think the core multiplayer gameplay is really good and really fun. I'm enjoying it far more than any CoD MP in recent memory, and when the core gameplay is this fun, I can overlook the flaws around it a lot easier.

I'd much rather have a fun but flawed game like MW3 than a slow, dull, boring, unfun, polished turd of a game like last year's MW2.
Are you dogshit at CoD or amazing at it, because I feel like you have to be one of those to like this broken piece of shit. It's awful.

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Robot2600
11/15/23 8:43:41 PM
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sounds fucking awful

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