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Ratchetrockon
11/22/23 11:55:00 PM
#51:


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i felt very OP in this run with loud tbh. this is the first time i've gotten a red weapon too. bosses all died sorta quick. am still a bit surprised how long the final wave bosses can last tho. the smgs were hitting up to 80+ damage or so. idr too well now

dioxxys posted...
Soldier on D5 is hard af.

Like you said the bosses over run you.

yeah i was mainly stutter-stepping throughout the waves but for bosses id have to full on run for like a sec or two at a time there is no way to avoid them otherwise :(.

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dioxxys
11/23/23 3:17:00 AM
#52:


Yeah I adapted the stutter step with soldier. But it's still kind of requires that you invest a decent amount of speed into him which seems a little counterproductive for the character.

Picked up the game tonight and did a bunch of runs.

I did a really unique build with one armed , I mean most are with him. But I picked up the claw weapon which scales off a tax speed and since he starts with 200 attack speed at scales really well for an early weapon.

I went crazy with elemental damage, melee damage and even tons of turrets. I transitioned into a thunder blade and it was so powerful with the stats I had built up. I was cocky and was about to beat a D3 run when I let myself get killed in the final wave. .

Now I've been trying to force an SMG build. My thought process was that he scales really well with critical, so you could get max crit chance easier than other characters. Problem is he doesn't start with any guns. So I just have to throw away whatever starter I got and roll until I get something. So it's a really rough start.

Especially since I don't know if you guys know, up to round 3 you have a guaranteed chance for 2 weapons in the shop and they have a higher chance of being similar to what you're holding. Up to round 5, You're guaranteed 1 weapon every time you roll in the shop.
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Ratchetrockon
11/25/23 1:49:53 AM
#53:


dioxxys posted...
Yeah I adapted the stutter step with soldier. But it's still kind of requires that you invest a decent amount of speed into him which seems a little counterproductive for the character.

Picked up the game tonight and did a bunch of runs.

I did a really unique build with one armed , I mean most are with him. But I picked up the claw weapon which scales off a tax speed and since he starts with 200 attack speed at scales really well for an early weapon.

I went crazy with elemental damage, melee damage and even tons of turrets. I transitioned into a thunder blade and it was so powerful with the stats I had built up. I was cocky and was about to beat a D3 run when I let myself get killed in the final wave. .

Now I've been trying to force an SMG build. My thought process was that he scales really well with critical, so you could get max crit chance easier than other characters. Problem is he doesn't start with any guns. So I just have to throw away whatever starter I got and roll until I get something. So it's a really rough start.

Especially since I don't know if you guys know, up to round 3 you have a guaranteed chance for 2 weapons in the shop and they have a higher chance of being similar to what you're holding. Up to round 5, You're guaranteed 1 weapon every time you roll in the shop.

Thanks for the info about the guaranteed weapons. I had no idea

Been trying to beat d5 with masochist. I'm using scissors since they have 40% lifesteal and can get them to doing 100 damage with criticals after some time spent getting hit.

Got up to wave 19 before dying. I think I need to actually increase my damage % some more. I notice ppl get it close to 0% (from -100%). It does take about half the wave for me to build up enough power to start killing the elites quickly. if I had more damage % I wouldn't have to wait so long and would be less risky.

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dioxxys
11/25/23 3:53:50 AM
#54:


Ratchetrockon posted...
Now I've been trying to force an SMG build. My thought process was that he scales really well with critical, so you could get max crit chance easier than other characters. Problem is he doesn't start with any guns. So I just have to throw away whatever starter I got and roll until I get something. So it's a really rough start.


I started off talking about one arm and then didn't even bother mentioning this new build was with Hunter

Ratchetrockon posted...
Been trying to beat d5 with masochist. I'm using scissors since they have 40% lifesteal and can get them to doing 100 damage with criticals after some time spent getting hit.

Got up to wave 19 before dying. I think I need to actually increase my damage % some more. I notice ppl get it close to 0% (from -100%). It does take about half the wave for me to build up enough power to start killing the elites quickly. if I had more damage % I wouldn't have to wait so long and would be less risky.
You can beat the game easily with masochist with just about any melee weapon as long you stack HP/Regen/Armor. Avoid dodge, in fact He's a great character to pick that one toxic potion item that gives you like eight health but it gives negative dodge.

In fact that's another tip that's not completely obvious at first. When a character has no need for a certain stat (ex: masochist wants to be hit so dodge is useless to him), or they have -100 stat modification, it's a perfect time to grab items with negative stat bonuses I'm that category.
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dioxxys
11/26/23 4:09:01 AM
#55:


Okay try out multitasker or old man with an engineer building grab every wrench and screwdriver , as well as every turret, mine item and all engineer points. Regen and Dodge for defensive.

Very fun engineer builds.

One character has a tiny arena so the turrets and mines are literally hitting everything. The other character can have up to 12 items so he's just got everything spammed.
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MabusIncarnate
11/26/23 4:09:59 AM
#56:


I bought this, gonna mess with it tomorrow.

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dioxxys
11/26/23 4:10:47 AM
#57:


Yuss!
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Ratchetrockon
11/26/23 4:59:33 AM
#58:


dioxxys posted...
You can beat the game easily with masochist with just about any melee weapon as long you stack HP/Regen/Armor. Avoid dodge, in fact He's a great character to pick that one toxic potion item that gives you like eight health but it gives negative dodge.

In fact that's another tip that's not completely obvious at first. When a character has no need for a certain stat (ex: masochist wants to be hit so dodge is useless to him), or they have -100 stat modification, it's a perfect time to grab items with negative stat bonuses I'm that category.

thanks for the tip. i eventually beat masochist using a different set-up. i tried scissors one more time. died in wave 19 again lol. so I switched to 4 ghost axe and 2 sceptre set-up.

Dude i had no idea that the stats you gain from using these 6 weapons were permanent!! thought they were just temp boost for each wave. So i was able to gain a bunch of health and damage % with each wave. by the end i was doing good enough damage to kill the two bosses before the timer ran down. believe i had 40 seconds left.

i did ignore dodge but the weapons decreased armour and added on dodge which was sorta nice i guess. altho i see your point about dodge being pretty worthless overall. with scissors i did have dodge down to the negatives and i only really died because i just lacked the damage output to clear out the mobs before they reached me.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b3f993cb.jpg

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Ratchetrockon
11/26/23 6:47:01 AM
#59:


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did a run with the speedster character. damn 115% speed is way too fast lol could barely comprehend what's going on in the screen sometimes. pretty much only survived because the spear things were doing around 200-300 damage each hit so was able to quickly kill the fodder for health. managed to kill the two bosses in the end but took longer than the masochist run since i couldn't stay by their side as often :(. Had to keep running back n forth across the map

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MabusIncarnate
11/26/23 7:50:27 PM
#60:


Ughhh dammit you guys. This is addictive as shit.

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dioxxys
11/26/23 8:24:42 PM
#61:


MabusIncarnate posted...
Ughhh dammit you guys. This is addictive as shit.
Nice :)

Ratchetrockon posted...
did a run with the speedster character. damn 115% speed is way too fast lol could barely comprehend what's going on in the screen sometimes. pretty much only survived because the spear things were doing around 200-300 damage each hit so was able to quickly kill the fodder for health. managed to kill the two bosses in the end but took longer than the masochist run since i couldn't stay by their side as often :(. Had to keep running back n forth across the map
I love the speedster character. Very fun with Shurikens.
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Ratchetrockon
11/27/23 1:08:40 PM
#62:


i finally beat wave 20 d5 w/ artificer. i tried so many times lol
managed to kill the two final bosses but barely (had like 10-20 seconds left). if only i had more nuke launchers that thing is powerful.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9760d0e0.jpg

there were a few bosses in earlier waves that i couldnt kill. just ran away from them. didnt have enough damage at the time :(

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pinky0926
11/27/23 1:09:59 PM
#63:


Just tried this game for the first time. Am I doing something wrong? Only beat level 1 once, and then can't beat it again.

Using ranger. Adding weapons first and upgrading them. Then adding health and damage when it rolls ok.

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dummy420
11/27/23 2:24:35 PM
#64:


pinky0926 posted...
Just tried this game for the first time. Am I doing something wrong? Only beat level 1 once, and then can't beat it again.

Using ranger. Adding weapons first and upgrading them. Then adding health and damage when it rolls ok.
Its pretty tough but you gotta find what works for the character. First one I beat the game with was the mutant which gives your more experience. Some of the stats are similar so dont go hard in both regen and life steal, atleast from my experience. Play to the characters strengths.

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Ratchetrockon
11/27/23 3:28:15 PM
#65:


wow the lightning shiv is powerful. i did not expect this.


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dioxxys
11/27/23 6:38:11 PM
#66:


pinky0926 posted...
Just tried this game for the first time. Am I doing something wrong? Only beat level 1 once, and then can't beat it again.

Using ranger. Adding weapons first and upgrading them. Then adding health and damage when it rolls ok.
Try difficulty zero. The first two shops are guaranteed to have two weapons in them, you can lock a item you like but spend all your money on weapons. Up to round five you're still guaranteed one weapon in the shop, when it's that cheap to reroll I think it's worth getting as many weapons as possible early.

Secondly, Ranger doesn't scale well with health. It's not the biggest penalty but he gets a 25% reduction to all health modifications. I would go for dodge/speed/range instead
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dioxxys
11/27/23 6:38:59 PM
#67:


Ratchetrockon posted...
wow the lightning shiv is powerful. i did not expect this.
Yeah the lightning bounces are a lot of fun too.

Really good weapon to pivot into thunder sword build also
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MabusIncarnate
11/27/23 9:28:17 PM
#68:


MabusIncarnate posted...
Ughhh dammit you guys. This is addictive as shit.
!!!

Probably sank in 10 hours already.

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Tyranthraxus
11/27/23 10:24:16 PM
#69:


Ratchetrockon posted...
wow the lightning shiv is powerful. i did not expect this.

Imo most elemental damage weapons are hot garbage but the lightning shiv is an exception. Probably one of the best melee weapons in general.

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Ratchetrockon
11/28/23 12:06:46 PM
#70:


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oh god this was the most panic inducing run so far. only managed to kill 1 of the wave 20 bosses. the other one had like a tiny sliver of health left >.<

just needed more damage. if only i had gotten explosive shells and couple of c4 and dynamites

i died a bunch of times prior. attempted multiple times with ghost axe, lightning shiv, spear, and shotgun. earliest id die was wave 9 and this is if i had less than 10% speed. max id die was like wave 14 or 15 the one with the chef hat boss

i ended up just using shredder and then picking up the rpg later on.

gonna do multitasker with sticks now hehe

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Ratchetrockon
11/28/23 4:03:08 PM
#71:


I keep dying in wave 20 damnit


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dioxxys
11/28/23 6:03:24 PM
#72:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Imo most elemental damage weapons are hot garbage but the lightning shiv is an exception. Probably one of the best melee weapons in general.
Elemental used to be broken AF and they nerfed wizard they nerfed flamethrower, nerfed tazer, and then re did all difficulties and now D5 is much harder than it used to be.
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dioxxys
11/29/23 6:09:20 AM
#73:


So you guys are Brotato enjoyers, Any other wave style auto shooter games you guys like?

Brotato is my top played one at 260 hours. I've played Vampire Survivors and Spirit Hunters: Infinite Horde both around 65 hours each.
I could play more of the above as they've had more content come out since I last played but I got kind of burnt out on that exact style of game.

Boneraiser Minions is next at 27 hours. I've unlocked everything but I've only gotten past difficulty like 5/10. It's got a lot of doo doo and boner jokes. And it's unique as your build is your minions and they do the fighting for you.

Seraphs Last Stand is very small retro space Invaders style and you do aim. But for some reason the biblically accurate angels swooping into murder you got me hooked into playing 19 hours.

Time Wasters is one of the few times I've actually enjoyed playing a Schmup game but It's in the style of an auto shooter and there's different pilots with neat abilities. Got around 15 hours on that.

The last one is bioprototype with about 13 hours. This one's odd You use body parts to make your build and different organs only have certain compatibility with other parts and you have to arrange it in a certain way.

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Tyranthraxus
11/29/23 8:44:26 AM
#74:


I played 20 minutes till dawn but found it very easy I got Max difficulty on every character after just a few days. It's fun but basically I have no desire to play it again.

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Ratchetrockon
11/29/23 10:19:42 AM
#75:


ok tbh this is the first game i've played in this auto shooter genre.

i never actually played vampire survivors tbh lol. i should have mentioned that earlier but forgot.

anyway im enjoying brotato a lot yeah. i'll probably try to beat all the characters on d5. still have a bunch of them left. probably will take about 2 months since the past 11 days I'm averaging 3.5 hours a day of playtime. and with 38.7 hours playtime that means each character is taking me 4.7 hours average to complete a d5 run (8 done so far).

that means I could potentially be playing this game for 200+ hours so about 2 months damn. i guess its possible for me to do that. i did that with a few other games in the past.

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Ratchetrockon
11/29/23 2:05:46 PM
#76:


omg game has crashed on me like 5 diff times. i notice fps drops to low 100s from 120 before this happens. is this game supposed to be capped at 60 fps? says it is in pcwiki but steam fps counter was showing 120 fps for me this entire time lol? i guess ill lower my refresh rate

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dioxxys
12/01/23 2:48:27 AM
#77:


Yeah that's odd I've never had the game crash on me.

Been doing quite a few D5 runs but I've ended in failure. Had some really good ones though.
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Ratchetrockon
12/01/23 7:32:28 AM
#78:


dioxxys posted...
Yeah that's odd I've never had the game crash on me.

Been doing quite a few D5 runs but I've ended in failure. Had some really good ones though.
It hasn't crashed so far after lowering my refresh rate.

I did a jack d5 run yesterday. Managed to beat it. I used 4 laser guns and 2 submachine guns.

I couldnt beat brawler yesterday. Way too tough imo. I'll try again today tho.

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Tyranthraxus
12/01/23 7:45:35 AM
#79:


Ratchetrockon posted...
It hasn't crashed so far after lowering my refresh rate.

I did a jack d5 run yesterday. Managed to beat it. I used 4 laser guns and 2 submachine guns.

I couldnt beat brawler yesterday. Way too tough imo. I'll try again today tho.

If you haven't yet, beat D0 with cryptid before doing brawler.

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Ratchetrockon
12/01/23 7:48:27 AM
#80:


Tyranthraxus posted...
If you haven't yet, beat D0 with cryptid before doing brawler.

Oo ok. I have to unlock cryptid then. So I have to play explorer? I saw the 10 trees requirement thing

Yeah the reg fists and fire fists are too weak by wave 15 or so I get surrounded


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Tyranthraxus
12/01/23 7:53:28 AM
#81:


Yes 10 trees gets you cryptid

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Ratchetrockon
12/01/23 11:45:16 AM
#82:


ok i unlocked cryptid but im gonna try d5ing explorer today.

crazy how slow 25% speed feels w/ a larger map and faster enemies. normally that amount of speed already feels pretty fast to me. well i guess ill pump up the speed some more

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Tyranthraxus
12/01/23 1:33:40 PM
#83:


Turns out this item is fucking busted as shit on One Armed
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a1ed928b.jpg

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Tyranthraxus
12/01/23 2:17:26 PM
#84:


Also lol 12 sticks

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/dbbf7e5e.jpg

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Ratchetrockon
12/01/23 2:23:57 PM
#85:


Wait we can combine weapons wtf!!! I never saw this above recycle lol I'm so inattentive. That prob explains why I haven't been getting a bunch of higher tiers i didn't know

I've skipped over so many of the same weapon types


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Tyranthraxus
12/01/23 2:24:47 PM
#86:


Ratchetrockon posted...
Wait we can combine weapons wtf!!! I never saw this above recycle lol I'm so inattentive. That prob explains why I haven't been getting a bunch of higher tiers i didn't know
Has to be same rarity but yeah you can combine them. I usually fill out the limit first then start combining as I get new ones

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Ratchetrockon
12/01/23 2:35:48 PM
#87:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Has to be same rarity but yeah you can combine them. I usually fill out the limit first then start combining as I get new ones

this definitely changes things for me


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dioxxys
12/01/23 3:49:54 PM
#88:


Ratchetrockon posted...
Oo ok. I have to unlock cryptid then. So I have to play explorer? I saw the 10 trees requirement thing

Yeah the reg fists and fire fists are too weak by wave 15 or so I get surrounded
Omg explorer is soooo much fun with turret factory
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dioxxys
12/01/23 3:51:34 PM
#89:


Ratchetrockon posted...
Wait we can combine weapons wtf!!! I never saw this above recycle lol I'm so inattentive. That prob explains why I haven't been getting a bunch of higher tiers i didn't know

I've skipped over so many of the same weapon types
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Ratchetrockon
12/02/23 4:01:26 PM
#90:


dioxxys posted...
Omg explorer is soooo much fun with turret factory


yeah i ended up doing that in my run. wasn't able to kill the bosses tho but turrets + life steal let me survive pretty easy. felt invincible

also did a d5 cryptid run just now. wow i died like 10 times before this run. eventually picked up the stand-still dodge item which let me go over 70% dodge when still and the item that heals you +5 hp when dodging.

i was able to stand around the entire time from waves 14-19 lol. and in the final wave i was able to stand still 95% of the time. only had to run around in the beginning when my health dropped to like 20. this was before all the trees spawned so my hp regen wasn't too high. once they were all spawned i was invincible lmfao. killed both bosses pretty quick wanna say quicker than the other characters by a huge margin. also had the wise perk so my damage increased over time.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/525e86f0.jpg

there was one wave where a whole bunch of enemies kept stacking those red beams blades things on top of my character and its health still wouldnt drop below 50%.

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Tyranthraxus
12/03/23 12:35:51 AM
#91:


Renegade is one of the hardest characters to get going but when they do man does it go.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/61c8da8c.jpg

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Ratchetrockon
12/03/23 12:21:55 PM
#92:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Renegade is one of the hardest characters to get going but when they do man does it go.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/61c8da8c.jpg

nice. i havent played as them yet maybe someday

i beat a d5 run with ghost yesterday. felt OP af by the end

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/46907ee6.jpg

now im trying brawler again and i just keep dying :(.. worst character ever. i prob could have won my last run if i was better at dodging those red projectiles tho. the normal mobs werent really a threat by that point. so i just have to pay attention more

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dioxxys
12/03/23 4:51:02 PM
#93:


I love renegade so much, making everything into a shotgun is great.

Ratchetrockon posted...
now im trying brawler again and i just keep dying :(.. worst character ever.
I'm going to have to try this again I wonder if since he rebalanced all the difficulties if it's difficult to get D5 with certain characters. Originally I had almost every character completed on D5 and then I reset my game
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Tyranthraxus
12/03/23 5:39:12 PM
#94:


dioxxys posted...
I love renegade so much, making everything into a shotgun is great.

I'm going to have to try this again I wonder if since he rebalanced all the difficulties if it's difficult to get D5 with certain characters. Originally I had almost every character completed on D5 and then I reset my game

Some characters definitely do not scale well. They're a lot more luck dependent. Other characters are just naturally strong and you can probably win most of the time. Like mage.

They definitely need better elemental weaponry. The best one in the game doesn't come at lower than tier 3 so you're just fucked for the early game and then good luck if you manage to survive in the late game long enough to see it in the shop.

There's also some characters that just don't work unless you've got a specific item like explorer + pocket factory.

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Ratchetrockon
12/03/23 7:23:00 PM
#95:


got brawler to do good damage with fists and killed the chef hat elite pretty quick. died the next wave tho. very squishy character :(

guess ill add more defense again but then ill be too weak ughh


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Ricemills
12/05/23 5:45:23 AM
#96:


I'm new to this genre but this game is fun.
Of 10 plays, i can only beat it once even with difficulty 0 with Brawler.

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Ratchetrockon
12/05/23 11:58:45 AM
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damn i died wave 20 w/ brawler :( i just had to survive 16 more seconds but the two bosses ofc used super speed on me so i couldnt run away

aight im gonna go full stick now

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Tyranthraxus
12/05/23 12:00:22 PM
#98:


Ratchetrockon posted...
damn i died wave 20 w/ brawler :( i just had to survive 16 more seconds but the two bosses ofc used super speed on me so i couldnt run away
I've had lots of really disappointing deaths on 19/20

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Ratchetrockon
12/05/23 12:01:15 PM
#99:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I've had lots of really disappointing deaths on 19/20

it sucks :(

im gonna go full stick mode now hopefully i can win soon

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Ricemills
12/05/23 4:00:29 PM
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Can you even get enough sticks for the full run tho? Especially when you need dupes to upgrade.

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