Current Events > President Biden can't remember when he was VP or when Beau died

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Biden got issues no doubt. But let's not forget trump mistook hailey for Pelosi. He probably is more there than biden tho. Thsts not saying much. "Hey im more here than an 80 year old!" We're fucked either way.

thronedfire2 posted...

so is your solution to have the Dems run someone else who will lose to Trump?

Nah his plan is to get people to not vote. You know that thing that helps the Repubs.

chaos_knight posted...

Too many on CE have their heads buried in the sand to realize the danger of what has a good chance of happening in November. But please, keep pretending nothing is wrong with Biden.

Yeah there is a huge danger in November. And that's why I'd vote for an inanimate object if it was on the Democrat ticket. Anything is better than the GOP, but I guess some people value optics and exciting candidates more than they value their rights and their lives.

chaos_knight posted...

Too many on CE have their heads buried in the sand to realize the danger of what has a good chance of happening in November. But please, keep pretending nothing is wrong with Biden.

Ok, who is the realistic alternative to Biden, the incumbent president? Go.

*waits*

thronedfire2 posted...

so is your solution to have the Dems run someone else who will lose to Trump?

Only solution at this point is to run on issues like abortion rights and hoping the economy doesn't go into recession. Those are the Dems best bets. Biden himself I worry about, especially with all the polling this past year.

Wish DToast hadn't nuked the Politics board so we could contain the doomposting there...

chaos_knight posted...

Only solution at this point is to run on issues like abortion rights and hoping the economy doesn't go into recession. Those are the Dems best bets. Biden himself I worry about, especially with all the polling this past year.

so you mean the things they're already running on?

how do you think polls would go if they put someone else up? half the people wouldn't even know who the new candidate is.

thronedfire2 posted...

so you mean the things they're already running on?

how do you think polls would go if they put someone else up? half the people wouldn't even know who the new candidate is.

You can bitch about the candidate, but realize there are no realistic alternatives as well. We might get Gavin Newsom in 2028 I guess.

chaos_knight posted...

Too many on CE have their heads buried in the sand to realize the danger of what has a good chance of happening in November. But please, keep pretending nothing is wrong with Biden.

I don't think a single person thinks Biden aint old as fuck and does old as fuck things.

chaos_knight posted...

Only solution at this point is to run on issues like abortion rights and hoping the economy doesn't go into recession. Those are the Dems best bets. Biden himself I worry about, especially with all the polling this past year.

Like... listen to what you're saying and realize how fucked it is. Democrats/Biden should run on legit good things they do rather than what republicans are running on... that Biden is old and sometimes forgets things but overall isn't a problem.

Democrats cant run younger candidates because theyre all too progressive.

What the hell is the special counsel doing in characterizing Biden's memory? Is he a doctor or therapist or some other professional specializing in memory?

Stay in your lane, champ.

Reminder that democrats did everything in their power to make Biden the nominee in 2020.

TheSuperSilver posted...

What the hell is the special counsel doing in characterizing Biden's memory? Is he a doctor or therapist or some other professional specializing in memory?

It's a really good question. It certainly seems like Hur was intending on creating a narrative that was needless. People being questioned being unable to recall things do not usually require such specific framing.

1337toothbrush posted...

Reminder that democrats did everything in their power to make Biden the nominee in 2020.

Yea.... by voting for him. How dare they.

aarrgus posted...

Yea.... by voting for him. How dare they.

Yeah, all the other candidates coincidentally just decided to drop right before super tuesday. Think before you post, please.

1337toothbrush posted...

Yeah, all the other candidates coincidentally just decided to drop right before super tuesday. Think before you post, please.

You first.

I broke my ankle 8 years ago and it was probably the most significant event of my adult life.

I don't remember what year/how long ago it happened without doing the math

I'll take the man who can't remember that over the one who wants to kill democracy.

aarrgus posted...

You first.

gud 1 tht ws a g8 no u!!!

1337toothbrush posted...

gud 1 tht ws a g8 no u!!!

...good one.

But yea I get it... you hate that the people voted for Biden. You wanted someone else to be handed a nomination they didn't earn.

1337toothbrush posted...

Yeah, all the other candidates coincidentally just decided to drop right before super tuesday. Think before you post, please.

And then people voted for one of the people still left in the race...

The ONLY REASON why the special counsel would characterize Biden's memory like that is to feed into the GOP narrative they've been spewing about him.

A piece of crap this special counsel is.

aarrgus posted...

It's a really good question. It certainly seems like Hur was intending on creating a narrative that was needless. People being questioned being unable to recall things do not usually require such specific framing.

Sounds like Biden not having a good memory was one of the reasons they decided not to charge him:

https://x.com/Techno_Fog/status/1755698930673717398?s=20

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/ab90424d.jpg

aarrgus posted...

...good one.

But yea I get it... you hate that the people voted for Biden. You wanted someone else to be handed a nomination they didn't earn.

Yeah, biden really earned that collaboration between the democratic party making all the other candidates drop and their big media buddies running the "biden miracle" stories right before super tuesday so that all the diehard democrats (who make up the vast majority of primary voters, since, you know, it's a party primary) can vote for who they've been told to vote for.

1337toothbrush posted...

Yeah, biden really earned that collaboration between the democratic party making all the other candidates drop and their big media buddies running the "biden miracle" stories right before super tuesday so that all the diehard democrats (who make up the vast majority of primary voters, since, you know, it's a party primary) can vote for who they've been told to vote for.

Yea you hate the people. I get it. You don't have to keep harping on it..... you hate that Democrats get to vote in primaries. You prefer that someone be handed the nomination they didn't earn. Sorry, that's not how it works. Have to win primaries and get the votes. Whining about it doesn't help your cause and complaining that people get to vote doesn't help either.

aarrgus posted...

Yea you hate the people. I get it. You don't have to keep harping on it..... you hate that Democrats get to vote in primaries. You prefer that someone be handed the nomination they didn't earn. Sorry, that's not how it works. Have to win primaries and get the votes. Whining about it doesn't help your cause and complaining that people get to vote doesn't help either.

Biden was handed the nomination by a broken party-controlled process.

1337toothbrush posted...

Biden was handed the nomination by a broken party-controlled process.

State by state voting. Yea I get it. You hate that people get to vote. You prefer your choice just be handed the nom.

SauI_Goodman posted...

But let's not forget trump mistook hailey for Pelosi.

Something like four days running is not "mistook."

1337toothbrush posted...

Biden was handed the nomination by a broken party-controlled process.

ah yes the broken party-controlled process of "people voting"

Both Biden and Trump are definitely way too fucking old.

Of course with Trump, it's of the least concern when it comes to his qualifications (or lack thereof)

DnDer posted...

So many people forget their anniversary that it's the lowest-hanging fruit for stand-up and sitcoms.

One of my brothers died 6 years ago and I messed that up on my last Medical history form just last month. It happens to basically everyone at one point.

1337toothbrush posted...

Biden was handed the nomination by a broken party-controlled process.

Yeah. Like $80 million worth of positive coverage in a weekend

I don't get how people have holed "Biden is too old" into Trump comparisons. The point being made is that Biden shouldn't be the nominee, not that you should/would vote for Trump instead. Biden polls like garbage from pollsters that called 2022 well and it's been static for months while Dem operatives constantly assure people it will somehow get better.

If it comes down to Biden/Trump (as someone who lives in Texas) it's obviously going to be Biden but the point here is the sheer lack of confidence and how abysmally the guy is polling against the former crime president when the SC is going to move heaven and earth to make sure he doesn't see jail time.

I'd normally understand the reservations on polling since it's been shitty a lot of cycles in a row, but what's the explanation for the pollsters that did well during these cycles showing Biden running behind Trump?

Dragon has your back Tooth. LOL..Grats on that.

aarrgus posted...

State by state voting. Yea I get it. You hate that people get to vote. You prefer your choice just be handed the nom.

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Doom_Art posted...

ah yes the broken party-controlled process of "people voting"

You mean like how most states don't even get to vote before the nominee is already decided? You mean a process where the voter participation rate is even lower than the already low general election? You mean the party-controlled process where the party-favored candidate can receive special treatment and have all the other competitors called to have them drop at just the right time? You mean the process that, like the general election, is dominated by money? You people suddenly have no problem with undemocratic practices because the democratic party carries them out?

1337toothbrush posted...

You mean like how most states don't even get to vote before the nominee is already decided? You mean a process where the voter participation rate is even lower than the already low general election? You mean the party-controlled process where the party-favored candidate can receive special treatment and have all the other competitors called to have them drop at just the right time? You mean the process that, like the general election, is dominated by money? You people suddenly have no problem with undemocratic practices because the democratic party carries them out?

Each candidate played by the same rules and was capable of gathering votes all the same.

If a candidate was disadvantaged by the field not being split several ways and eking out wins with a plurality of votes, then maybe that candidate should've developed a better strategy or better courted the voters of the party they wish to represent

1337toothbrush posted...

You mean like how most states don't even get to vote before the nominee is already decided? You mean a process where the voter participation rate is even lower than the already low general election? You mean the party-controlled process where the party-favored candidate can receive special treatment and have all the other competitors called to have them drop at just the right time? You mean the process that, like the general election, is dominated by money? You people suddenly have no problem with undemocratic practices because the democratic party carries them out?

Most of that isnt even underhanded, its just you still being butthurt that Bernie didnt win the nomination.

1337toothbrush posted...

Reminder that democrats did everything in their power to make Biden the nominee in 2020.

Reminder that you used to shill for murderous dictators like Assad and Putin on 261 and you're probably the least progressive person on this board, as much as you try to pretend otherwise around people unfamiliar with your posting history.

Zero_Destroyer posted...

I don't get how people have holed "Biden is too old" into Trump comparisons. The point being made is that Biden shouldn't be the nominee, not that you should/would vote for Trump instead. Biden polls like garbage from pollsters that called 2022 well and it's been static for months while Dem operatives constantly assure people it will somehow get better.

If it comes down to Biden/Trump (as someone who lives in Texas) it's obviously going to be Biden but the point here is the sheer lack of confidence and how abysmally the guy is polling against the former crime president when the SC is going to move heaven and earth to make sure he doesn't see jail time.

I'd normally understand the reservations on polling since it's been shitty a lot of cycles in a row, but what's the explanation for the pollsters that did well during these cycles showing Biden running behind Trump?

there's only 9 months to the election. even if they wanted to run another candidate it's way too late to start a campaign like that.

best thing Biden could do is pick a VP people actually like. or talk more about what she does. Melania was in the news so people actually knew she existed. I checked google to see what Kamala Harris has done and it seems like a lot, but you never hear about it.

1337toothbrush posted...

You mean like how most states don't even get to vote before the nominee is already decided? You mean a process where the voter participation rate is even lower than the already low general election? You mean the party-controlled process where the party-favored candidate can receive special treatment and have all the other competitors called to have them drop at just the right time? You mean the process that, like the general election, is dominated by money? You people suddenly have no problem with undemocratic practices because the democratic party carries them out?

If Bernie's only path to victory was to win in a splintered field and if it came down to two candidates and the voting base broadly voted for the centrist one of the bunch, yeah, that's pretty in line with American democracy. Perfect? No, not at all, but the notion it's more democratic for a guy with 40% of the vote to represent 100% of the Dem voting base is pretty laughable. Bernie's best bet was to not receive a majority of the vote, there's no real way around this when you bring up resentments from 2020.

Doom_Art posted...

Each candidate played by the same rules and was capable of gathering votes all the same.

If a candidate was disadvantaged by the field not being split several ways and eking out wins with a plurality of votes, then maybe that candidate should've developed a better strategy or better courted the voters of the party they wish to represent

Each candidate played by the same rules, therefore the electoral college awarding the presidency to trump when he had fewer votes than clinton is totally a great system.

Tanthalas posted...

Most of that isnt even underhanded, its just you still being butthurt that Bernie didnt win the nomination.

Colluding to push the corporate stooge is underhanded. This is why we'll never get any progress and you people cheer this on. You apparently love money-dominated politics.

Sad both top candidates are so old. That said, vote for Biden. This isn't the election to make this an issue.

1337toothbrush posted...

Each candidate played by the same rules, therefore the electoral college awarding the presidency to trump when he had fewer votes than clinton is totally a great system.

did you hit your head

we're talking about the primaries lol

DnDer posted...

Something like four days running is not "mistook."

Oh, "enlighten" me obi wan.

ANort posted...

Reminder that you used to shill for murderous dictators like Assad and Putin on 261 and you're probably the least progressive person on this board, as much as you try to pretend otherwise around people unfamiliar with your posting history.

I never shilled them, stop lying. Also telling that you're trying to change the subject. Think before you post.

Zero_Destroyer posted...

If Bernie's only path to victory was to win in a splintered field and if it came down to two candidates and the voting base broadly voted for the centrist one of the bunch, yeah, that's pretty in line with American democracy. Perfect? No, not at all, but the notion it's more democratic for a guy with 40% of the vote to represent 100% of the Dem voting base is pretty laughable. Bernie's best bet was to not receive a majority of the vote, there's no real way around this when you bring up resentments from 2020.

Anyone's only path to victory is to get filtered through one of only two viable parties' primary process. It's undemocratic and it's fixed such that no corporate/rich-unfriendly candidate will ever get through. Anyone that thinks progress can be made in such a system is fooling themselves.

There won't be a viable progressive candidate while conservative Trumpism is hording the populist vote. Republicans are so far up Trump's back side that history will push them into obscurity thereafter. Until then we can only bitch and whine why the two parties are not democrat v progressive.

SaikyoStyle posted...

Democrats cant run younger candidates because theyre all too progressive.

Luckily for us this will be the last geriatric election in the foreseeable future. Give me one good candidate. I don't even care what side they're on at this point.