Board 8 > Valentine's Day Mafia Topic 7: Love me, love me, say that you love me

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SirChris
03/01/24 5:00:02 PM
#51:


That's the most normal Lea post we've ever had really.

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Enchantress
03/01/24 5:01:24 PM
#52:


Lmao
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EDumey
03/01/24 5:06:53 PM
#55:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Dumey I'm off to FNM so if you have any final decisions you want me to make, let me know now.

If I have to dump you for Kirby or JC for a vanilla trade, would you be upset with me?

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EDumey
03/01/24 5:07:41 PM
#56:


I don't even know if Corrik is here to save himself anymore.

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Corrik7
03/01/24 5:10:46 PM
#57:


I have 3 minutes. If someone wants to pair with me. If not, fairwell.

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Enchantress
03/01/24 5:11:38 PM
#58:


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Chaeix
03/01/24 5:12:19 PM
#59:


##breakup
##date: corrik

this feels absolutely terrible to do

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Corrik7
03/01/24 5:12:51 PM
#60:


##date: chaeix

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Lopen
03/01/24 5:15:39 PM
#62:


Kirby kill her

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Lopen
03/01/24 5:20:39 PM
#63:


Actually detonate all 3

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EDumey
03/01/24 5:23:47 PM
#64:


Will Red show before end of day?

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Lopen
03/01/24 5:27:37 PM
#65:


Wish Ulti would jump in the pool too

Let's have all these martyrs put their money where their mouth is

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Kirby321
03/01/24 5:29:51 PM
#66:


I'm not even sure what the status of the dates are anymore x_x

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Enchantress
03/01/24 5:30:45 PM
#67:


If you make of your heart a gift to Lopen, he will fashion a blade and use it to stab you in the place your heart once was
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Lopen
03/01/24 5:30:46 PM
#68:


You Lea and red are in the pool

Pair with no one and flip 3 and we probably win tbh

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Chaeix
03/01/24 5:31:55 PM
#70:


scum just sitting back laughing

ugh I feel like I made a mistake

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Lopen
03/01/24 5:33:12 PM
#71:


Kirby
Red
Dumey
Lea
Ulti

Detonate the whole pile

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Lopen
03/01/24 5:33:38 PM
#72:


Play chicken with it and see who actually pairs up

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Enchantress
03/01/24 5:34:02 PM
#73:


Chaeix posted...
scum just sitting back laughing

ugh I feel like I made a mistake

Just use the data productively tomorrow. See who's all in on miller logic while ignoring play, get a more accurate reading of how D1 went town. If there really is a double or triple town kill, maybe don't write off the architecht who suspected but didn't actually kill Peaf and then leaked information just to get me killed.
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changmas
03/01/24 5:34:09 PM
#74:


Update

Paired
FD and MZero
Sultan and Sir Chris
Ulti and Dumey
Lopen and Isquen
JC and Corrik

Exes
Red and FD
Sultan and Chris
Kirby and Dumey
Ulti and Sultan
Kirby and Ulti
Ulti and Dumey
Ulti and Dumey
Lea and JC

Breakup Request
Ulti

Open Offers
Red: Lea, Mzero, Lopen, JC, Isquen, FD, Dumey, Corrik, Sultan, Kirby, Chris
Kirby: Dumey, Lopen

Unpaired
Lea
Red
Kirby

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Lopen
03/01/24 5:34:28 PM
#75:


Kirby Ulti and Lea all claim willingness to die so call the bluff

End the martyr meta

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Lopen
03/01/24 5:37:32 PM
#77:


Enchantress posted...
If there really is a double or triple town kill, maybe don't write off the architecht who suspected but didn't actually kill Peaf and then leaked information just to get me killed.

Are you thinking I'm scum now?

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EDumey
03/01/24 5:39:26 PM
#78:


Ugh, Kirby what is the decision you're making in your head right now? Do you not want to take the Red date because he's unclaimed? Are you holding out for a reason to date Lea instead? Do you prefer Ulti dying over Lea?

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EDumey
03/01/24 5:40:18 PM
#79:


The longer we sit here with no action, the more limited our options become. I don't think this is the group we try some triple kill on. There's no reason to have town not pair here.

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Lopen
03/01/24 5:41:33 PM
#80:


EDumey posted...
The longer we sit here with no action, the more limited our options become. I don't think this is the group we try some triple kill on. There's no reason to have town not pair here.

Penta with you and Ulti too

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Kirby321
03/01/24 5:42:12 PM
#81:


I disagree with a triple kill as well. But I'm not sure who to save

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Forceful_Dragon
03/01/24 5:45:05 PM
#82:


EDumey posted...
The longer we sit here with no action, the more limited our options become. I don't think this is the group we try some triple kill on. There's no reason to have town not pair here.

I don't think ANY group is worth trying a triple on. I think it's just mathematically awful and it effectively removes a full day from the game. Like, even if we got a guilty scan on Chris/Sultan tonight I wouldn't say "yeah, let's just kill them both at once!", I think it would be correct to still eliminate them one at a time. If they are both scum then we just end the game 1 day slower, and if only 1 is scum we don't sacrifice 2 town for a scum. If the game isn't straight up ending on that play then town has 1 less day/attempt to close it out.

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Lopen
03/01/24 5:49:42 PM
#83:


If you're willing to die to narrow POE you should be willing to triple

It's the same amount of pace lost without scum getting to control the night kill

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Enchantress
03/01/24 5:50:11 PM
#84:


Lopen posted...
Are you thinking I'm scum now?

If you kill 3 town in one shot? Yeah
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EDumey
03/01/24 5:51:48 PM
#85:


Talk it out then. I don't really know what I can do to help you. Maybe I just shut up and wait for Red to show up.

Here's my perspective:

Lea - claimed Miller - Has multiple people that think her claim shouldn't/can't exist like Corrik and Ulti. Could have been motivation for Peaf to do what he did D1. Doesn't really say much during the day, more at night.

Red - not claimed - stubborn about contributing, but has done some analysis. no other game reason to think he's scum, other than he's in the PoE of people skating by. Doesn't really say much during the day, more at night.

Ulti - claimed Vanilla - Has Lopen after him. Honestly don't remember if anyone else was strongly pushing for Ulti as scum. He is a louder voice than the other two when he's around.

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Lopen
03/01/24 5:51:52 PM
#86:


Enchantress posted...
If you kill 3 town in one shot? Yeah

How am I killing 3 town in one shot? I am encouraging it but the decision isn't in my hands

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Kirby321
03/01/24 5:52:23 PM
#87:


Lopen posted...
If you're willing to die to narrow POE you should be willing to triple

It's the same amount of pace lost without scum getting to control the night kill

Who the fuck paired with this clown again?

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Lopen
03/01/24 5:53:32 PM
#88:


Kirby321 posted...
Who the fuck paired with this clown again?

Here's where Kirby pretends to be mad and pairs with someone out of spite

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EDumey
03/01/24 5:54:43 PM
#89:


Basically I'd rather not feel forced to sac Ulti if we can actively choose something.

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Lopen
03/01/24 5:54:48 PM
#90:


Lea if you're town just pair with red

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Forceful_Dragon
03/01/24 5:56:03 PM
#91:


Kirby321 posted...
Who the fuck paired with this clown again?


Earlier that day....

Kirby321 posted...
##Breakup

I get the feeling FD is about to be abandoned. I can't save him, but Dumey can.

##Date: Lopen

You're town as far as I'm concerned. I shall grant you a safe haven


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Lopen
03/01/24 5:57:13 PM
#92:


Kirby is faking emotion all over the place. I have no idea why he's even getting so mad

It's a gutsy call to show no regard for your own well being but let's call him on it

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Kirby321
03/01/24 5:57:55 PM
#93:


EDumey posted...
Talk it out then. I don't really know what I can do to help you. Maybe I just shut up and wait for Red to show up.

Here's my perspective:

Lea - claimed Miller - Has multiple people that think her claim shouldn't/can't exist like Corrik and Ulti. Could have been motivation for Peaf to do what he did D1. Doesn't really say much during the day, more at night.

Red - not claimed - stubborn about contributing, but has done some analysis. no other game reason to think he's scum, other than he's in the PoE of people skating by. Doesn't really say much during the day, more at night.

Ulti - claimed Vanilla - Has Lopen after him. Honestly don't remember if anyone else was strongly pushing for Ulti as scum. He is a louder voice than the other two when he's around.

Hmm... Lea has the self-sacrificing EoD D1 play to save my neck when she really, really didn't have to. It's consistent with her Miller narrative. If she's scum, she's got an insanely high yomi to try this gambit thinking that other town would hop on when, logically, it absolutely makes zero sense to ever break up once the last pair had been decided at that time. And I still stand by that. This Miller stuff I have to admit has some weight, but the actions are either crazy scum or genuine town. And I'm willing to believe in genuine town here.

Likewise, I don't think scum Ulti willingly puts himself as a sacrifice here. He'd get way too defensive to boldly challenge us to lynch him as a sacrificial goat.

Meanwhile, Red can actively hurt our chances of nailing scum. If Sultan or Chris is scum, Red would happily throw the game by not giving a shit about the mechanics and just open dates for everyone, giving scum and easy way to bypass their "can't pair with each other limits".

One of these players is actively anti-town. That's my judgement.

##Date: Lea

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Lopen
03/01/24 5:58:28 PM
#94:


Lea

If you date red I will ban you from being lynched tomorrow

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Kirby321
03/01/24 5:59:03 PM
#95:


Red should claim

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Lopen
03/01/24 5:59:12 PM
#96:


He isn't even saying red is scum there

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EDumey
03/01/24 5:59:41 PM
#97:


Red should probably claim. I'm not ditching Ulti for no claim.

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Kirby321
03/01/24 6:00:34 PM
#98:


Lopen posted...
He isn't even saying red is scum there

He's probably not. But if we're going to actually make progress on lynching scum, Red is an active detriment to the game if he insists on first-post dating everybody.

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Kirby321
03/01/24 6:01:28 PM
#100:


I'm already convinced town is dying today no matter what. It's just a matter of which townie would I care less about dying. And that's the one enabling scum through his own apathy.

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