Board 8 > Valentine's Day Mafia Topic 7: Love me, love me, say that you love me

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Lopen posted...

I went into the night letting Isquen share suspicions. He said his reads were currently all the same and that Dumey was his number one suspect.

You frame this as if you started by asking Isquen to share first. But the response that he said "all the same" makes it sound like you started by sharing your reads first, then asked him after.

Isquen, can I just ask if Lopen is charitably sharing this story and that you thought I was a suspect before reading whatever Lopen had to say? This makes it twice now that Lopen has come out of the night saying his partner totally thought I was scum. Could be true that's what happened, but I'm just verifying.

Literally start of chat, and its funny THAT is what you got out of my story

Lopen: Oh how lame, Lea. Well whatever I'm just gonna let you drive conversation for a while Isquen
Isquen: Fine by me. I've been watching but laying low due to my penchant for falling on a sword day 2 too
Isquen: I legit haven't felt well today though, been kind of in and out of napping all day, kind of glad you accepted even if you could be scum
Lopen: Well you have a very talkative roommate so please use it if you can
Lopen: Do you have any suspicions you're aiming to pursue tomorrow
Isquen: Well, one of my primary suspicions is still Dumey

I totally think you're scum, Dumey.

"You WHAT He's my only town read!!" - Peaf T2-247 in response to Kirby suggesting Ulti be killed

Don't see a scum Peaf saying this about a scummate

SirChris posted...

Was Corrik due for a scan today? I didnt double check the wording on his claim.

He claimed back up so im not entirely sure

And yep, can confirm Lopen said that.

I ended up finally townclearing Ulti due to how he and Dumey were reacting yesterday to end of day

It felt like Dumey was fishing for reasons to not break up and kept asking Ulti "hey bro you sure you'll be ok if we break up" and Ulti is like "yes break up I said that already"

And then Dumey didn't do it in the end without having Ulti to blame for it

I don't see scum scum interacting like that

It felt like scum town with scum trying to look for an out to not do the thing they didn't want to do to start with

Sultan - Peaf kind of ignored Sultan even when Dumey was grilling him while Peaf was around. I think the only time he mentioned Sultan was saying he wouldn't mind us breaking up and dying. When Peaf claimed Sultan immediately asked for clarification on whether he targeted a couple instead of one player. Lea and JC got confused for a minute (town points for JC) and Sultan corrected them saying Peaf never said he could see the chat. Possible TMI and also Sultan said "Why do I feel like peaf is hiding something... cuz now I have the same thought. That as a watcher that doesn't get much other info is a bit hmm blah idk." which is very awkward and wishy washy even for him. Seemed very hesitant to take a stand in regards to Peaf's claim

My POE right now is FD/Kirby/Sultan/Chris and I like Kirby and FD the best of those. Gun to my head it's Sultan and Chris, inno scan be damned

Always scum:

1. Dumey

Sometimes scum in order of suspicion:

1. Sultan
2. JC
3. Ulti
4. Mzero
5. Chris

Always town:

1. Corrik
2. Isquen
3. FD
4. Kirby (RIP Lea please forgive my betrayal)

That's my current POE.

Also the Sultan and Chris pairing was so sudden and awkward I still don't like it

EDumey posted...

Would just like to say that should the numbers support it, I would be willing to do a sacrificial triple kill on Chris and Sultan tomorrow.

Dumey you still up for this

You can sub me for Chris if you'd like

MZero posted...

Also the Sultan and Chris pairing was so sudden and awkward I still don't like it

I mean so was our pairing if you want to be fair.

And with Peafs face claim he never mentioned he saw the discord chat I was legit confused their thst came from. But I digress.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I mean so was our pairing if you want to be fair.

And with Peafs face claim he never mentioned he saw the discord chat I was legit confused their thst came from. But I digress.

I wasn't your only scum read before we got together!

Actually you know what

Screw it

I'm putting Mzero in my town pile

Dude is solving way too hard to be scum (even if his POE having Chris as suspect over Dumey feels backwards)

MZero posted...

I wasn't your only scum read before we got together!

How does no one understand why I chose to do that? We weren't going to kill Chris and I wanted to geta good read on someone I know well. Like I don't see why everyone's likes ohh only date town reads in this set up. Their got to be more than just 1 strategy to this style of game

Also the details of your night chat have been very vague just stuff like Sultan towned so hard, did well 1v1, was solving, etc.

where are the details darn it

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

How does no one understand why I chose to do that? We weren't going to kill Chris and I wanted to geta good read on someone I know well. Like I don't see why everyone's likes ohh only date town reads in this set up. Their got to be more than just 1 strategy to this style of game

so what did you learn from your 1v1 with Chris? and how do you know we wouldn't have killed him?

MZero posted...

Also the details of your night chat have been very vague just stuff like Sultan towned so hard, did well 1v1, was solving, etc.

where are the details darn it

I agree

I left a detailed document about why I think Isquen is town

Where is the beef

MZero posted...

Also the details of your night chat have been very vague just stuff like Sultan towned so hard, did well 1v1, was solving, etc.

where are the details darn it

Right from our chat.

Here was my thoughts I can't speak for what Chris saw but

I posted this:

Anyways poe is low right

Confirmed you
Confirmed red
Corrik is probably true.
Ulti yet annoying and doing weird shit probably okay?

One of the nilla claims more than likely not town

Still feel weird about Kirbys game state .

Room 1 - FD and MZero- Town from our date unless Mzero is really good at faking I didn't see scum mzero it seemed like town self and was good at discussing and sharing thoughts though a bit limited due to time zones
Room 2 - Sultan and Sir Chris we are both town. You being Confirmed town
Room 3 - Ulti could be scum still he has had alot of weird moments. Dumey- either grew alot as scum but the fire Dumey has had this game is definitely nice to see and seems like town
Room 4 - Lopen- I thought Lopen seemed pretty towny though when he turns it into mob boss Lopen he is scum caught him several times when he does this. Havent seen that level of force this game and Isquen always gets misslynched low effort low posts falls into the POE.
Room 5 - JC- JC has mostly been stuck and pushing me with very little drive. JC if town needs to get outta his bull headdness but POE. and Corrik probably telling the truth and just town here
Room 6 - Red cop and Kirby POE and kinda scummy think got saved day 1.

I did it by room to analyze rooms as a whole as well.

Do you think any Scum Scum room is possible?

Their is more to the chat but this is when Chris said he started to trust me

MZero posted...

so what did you learn from your 1v1 with Chris? and how do you know we wouldn't have killed him?

I am me

Also;

Just realized I missed FD. I thought FD looked Towny not that it's going to matter but the Fishing for more info about Reds claim wasn't a town move. Also corrik and Red claims being a little different is a bit??

Heres a fun idea if you want to cheese the game

Room up Corrik and Isquen

Kill everyone else

Town wins.

I think that's lame but it would definitely win

Corrik and FD I'd also gamble with

Lopen posted...

Literally start of chat, and its funny THAT is what you got out of my story

It's not the ONLY thing I got out of it, just wanted to ask Isquen if it was a fair translation of the night.

Lopen posted...

I ended up finally townclearing Ulti due to how he and Dumey were reacting yesterday to end of day

It felt like Dumey was fishing for reasons to not break up and kept asking Ulti "hey bro you sure you'll be ok if we break up" and Ulti is like "yes break up I said that already"

And then Dumey didn't do it in the end without having Ulti to blame for it

Nah this is silly. I still preferred lynching Lea over Ulti, Red, or Kirby. If Kirby hadn't taken the Red date, I would have moved Ulti for it, but there was no need to. I DID genuinely have to do something at end of day that came up with my car. But I literally pulled to the side of the road to check into the topic 10 minutes before deadline to make sure I didn't need to do the swap. But I wasn't swapping claimed Vanilla for claimed Miller Lea at that point.

Lopen posted...

Dumey you still up for this

You can sub me for Chris if you'd like

I would like to go through the numbers a little more closely before settling for this, but yeah. Willing to trade for Sultan and you. The problem is that I think you just try to maneuver me into this setup and link up with Sultan to lynch me at the end. The thing about setting it up with Chris and Sultan was that they couldn't save each other at the end due to dating N2. This is PROBABLY a no go, but I am up for it if we can figure it out.

EDumey posted...

The problem is that I think you just try to maneuver me into this setup and link up with Sultan to lynch me at the end. The thing about setting it up with Chris and Sultan was that they couldn't save each other at the end due to dating N2. This is PROBABLY a no go, but I am up for it if we can figure it out.

Isn't that basically just claiming scum with Sultan if I do that and you flip town

MZero posted...

so what did you learn from your 1v1 with Chris? and how do you know we wouldn't have killed him?

Did you just claim scum??

Lopen posted...

Isn't that basically just claiming scum with Sultan if I do that and you flip town

Maybe, but I bet you'd like to try and do that and talk your way out of it afterwards rather than guarantee your death.

Plus like you said in response to someone last night, lynching one by one gives scum more control over night kills, rather than taking down the numbers we want.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Did you just claim scum??

...what?

Sultan is bugging me enough that I'm willing to 1v2 into him and Chris actually

I can be the bomb Dumey

SirChris posted...

I am me

I know that and I didn't have to 1v1 you!

It would be epic let's do it

I suicide into the last two scum. Glorious

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Did you just claim scum??

No read it again. He's attacking the same thing I did last night. You said, "we're not killing Chris, so I might as well date him and get info out of it!" but we definitely could have had Chris in the pile if you weren't sheltering him.

MZero posted...

so what did you learn from your 1v1 with Chris? and how do you know we wouldn't have killed him?

I mean Chris did pretty much mock me when I thought he could be god father.

I can't believe Chris thinks Sultan has to be town here.

I need the gf fear gone

Let me incinerate them both

Lopen posted...

Sultan is bugging me enough that I'm willing to 1v2 into him and Chris actually

I can be the bomb Dumey

I'm not sure it's the best play to dive into the only cop scan we have lol, but I'm for it with either you or me. Let me take a second to actually do the numbers so FD can yell at us appropriately later.

Good thing you arent in charge lol

EDumey posted...

No read it again. He's attacking the same thing I did last night. You said, "we're not killing Chris, so I might as well date him and get info out of it!" but we definitely could have had Chris in the pile if you weren't sheltering him.

I mean yall we're sheeping the hell outta lopen and he said he didn't want to kill Chris and would rather have Ulti in that spot. I agreed beacuse something didn't feel right with Ulti..

Dumey I also don't know what you think it's so weird I wanted to date you yesterday too

btw twice in the last year I indirectly scanned the godfather at the start of the game, so I've becomed a bit jaded

Console Mafia - red (lol) scanned Marth inno night 1 and died, I robbed his grave and got the scanned, scum won

Simpsons Mafia - replaced IGCD who scanned Ulti D1

Also I mentioned this to FD but I can see a world where Chris was playing to get scanned D1, because he came out of it with a healthy amount of suspicion

Lopen posted...

I can't believe Chris thinks Sultan has to be town here.

I need the gf fear gone

Let me incinerate them both

I'm in

hell I'll be the bomb if town prefers me over you. Nothing would give me more satisfaction then going down in a blaze of glory

Lopen posted...

Heres a fun idea if you want to cheese the game

Room up Corrik and Isquen

Kill everyone else

Town wins.

Only if scum paired last night.

Here is the way it is

1. Mzero
2. Lopen
3. Chaeix (JC)
4. Isquen
5. FD
6. Ulti
7. Dumey
8. Corrik
9. Sultan
10. Kirby
11. Sir Chris

If I or you suicide into Sultan + Sir Chris, corrik is killed tonight, we are left with

1. Mzero
2. Lopen/Dumey
3. Chaeix (JC)
4. Isquen
5. FD
6. Ulti
7. Kirby

I think FD and Isquen are lock town. Strong town read on Mzero. If I trust Lea Kirby is lock town.

If the scumteam is Dumey + JC or Dumey + Ulti it's a loss

I'd risk it. It would be legend.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I mean yall we're sheeping the hell outta lopen and he said he didn't want to kill Chris and would rather have Ulti in that spot. I agreed beacuse something didn't feel right with Ulti..

What do you mean sheeping the hell outta lopen. Half the day was Lopen arguing at us to look at the end of D1 with everyone arguing against him that it was a bad direction to go. So we agreed to compromise on Ulti, and then things developed from there.

AT NO POINT DID TOWN COME TO A CONSENSUS THAT WE WEREN'T LYNCHING CHRIS. You came up to that conclusion on your own.

EDumey posted...

What do you mean sheeping the hell outta lopen. Half the day was Lopen arguing at us to look at the end of D1 with everyone arguing against him that it was a bad direction to go. So we agreed to compromise on Ulti, and then things developed from there.

AT NO POINT DID TOWN COME TO A CONSENSUS THAT WE WEREN'T LYNCHING CHRIS. You came up to that conclusion on your own.

I'll go find it Lopen litterally said we aren't killing Chris

Chris LOVES to open wolf

Imagine him advocating Peaf blatantly and then pairing with Sultan and saying he's dead sure he's town.

Man it feels right doesn't it. Peaf insanity be damned. Pair up and back away.

Let me destroy them.

This one... is for Lea

Ohh it was we need to kill ulti but still. And you all wanted to kill ulit at that time.

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