Current Events > President Obama said the nuclear family is a good thing.

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RadDude9000
03/08/24 12:32:14 AM
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I agree.

Straight or not.

Family is great.

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ablegator
03/08/24 12:35:36 AM
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Robot2600
03/08/24 12:36:10 AM
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Tyranthraxus
03/08/24 1:01:38 AM
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The nuclear family is the worst. Larger extended families more common in other countries is a far superior means of having a family.

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luigi33
03/08/24 1:02:09 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
The nuclear family is the worst. Larger extended families more common in other countries is a far superior means of having a family.


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trivialbeing
03/08/24 1:06:28 AM
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never quite understood the left's disdain for the healthy nuclear family, the foundation of any civilization
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TheMikh
03/08/24 1:07:07 AM
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i'm more fond of the extended family tbqh, nuclear family is important but without extended context it eventually succumbs to its environment

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Dark_Arbron
03/08/24 1:09:57 AM
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trivialbeing posted...
never quite understood the left's disdain for the healthy nuclear family, the foundation of any civilization

The disdain is for the homophobic undertones, but you knew that already.

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Revisited
03/08/24 1:13:16 AM
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^ ^ OK could someone explain what nuclear family is and what extended family is because after the above posts I'm questioning my previously understood definitions, in that extended family is literally just nuclear family with more aunts and uncles?

Nuclear family is one dad, one mom, one son one daughter right? Eg Simpsons?
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luigi33
03/08/24 1:21:42 AM
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trivialbeing posted...
never quite understood the left's disdain for the healthy nuclear family, the foundation of any civilization
Its nearly impossible to achieve the "nuclear family" in this day and age. Ontop of that, village raising the child is unironically superior.

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boxoto
03/08/24 1:22:04 AM
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^ you can think of a nuclear family as the "immediate" family - parents & kids (no limit to the amount of kids).

extended family also includes grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc., and in some communities, people who are like family.

edit: at post 10

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Sun_Xiao
03/08/24 1:23:54 AM
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Revisited posted...
Nuclear family is one dad, one mom, one son one daughter right? Eg Simpsons?

Tbh, it's pretty impossible for everyone to have a son and a daughter because couples could have been unlucky for tried to get either son or daughter. My aunt didn't get girl after she gave 6 births ,so she gave up for tried to get girl.

As for nuclear family, it's not really bad ,but it's better than have too many marriages and children.
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Voidgolem
03/08/24 1:29:06 AM
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I mean, when you get around the weird dogwhistles people keep hooking to it, the idea is sound:

people -should- be able to have a family of ~4-5, nice things, a home, etc on a single income. If that's what they're into, anyway

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xlr_big-coop
03/08/24 1:31:23 AM
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trivialbeing posted...
never quite understood the left's disdain for the healthy nuclear family, the foundation of any civilization


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TendoDRM
03/08/24 1:34:26 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
The nuclear family is the worst. Larger extended families more common in other countries is a far superior means of having a family.

This depends on how much you like your extended family. I for one am glad I was raised in a nuclear family.

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boxoto
03/08/24 1:35:01 AM
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the left doesn't have a disdain for the nuclear family, lol.

a lot of people just recognize that the so-called nuclear family that right harps on about isn't the only valid one.

there are gay couples raising families, people who want to have a family but aren't in romantic relationships, multiple people helping to raise children, couples who don't want children, and so on.

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Dark_Arbron
03/08/24 1:36:04 AM
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@xlr_big-coop

Dark_Arbron posted...
The disdain is for the homophobic undertones, but you knew that already.

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Daremo
03/08/24 1:36:15 AM
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trivialbeing posted...
never quite understood the left's disdain for the healthy nuclear family, the foundation of any civilization
Because that is what is known as a lie. A lie.

Tyranthraxus posted...
Larger extended families more common in other countries is a far superior means of having a family.


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Dark_Arbron
03/08/24 1:37:45 AM
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Daremo posted...
Because that is what is known as a lie. A lie.

Also, the reason conservatives push the nuclear family so hard is, and has always been, because its a heterosexual relationship.

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Tyranthraxus
03/08/24 1:40:20 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Also, the reason conservatives push the nuclear family so hard is, and has always been, because its a heterosexual relationship.
Originally it was just anti Soviet propaganda. Gay people couldn't really admit they were gay without getting booked as a pederast.

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Dark_Arbron
03/08/24 1:41:12 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Originally it was just anti Soviet propaganda. Gay people couldn't really admit they were gay without getting booked as a pederast.

So basically nothings changed, at least as far as how conservatives treat them.

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RadDude9000
03/08/24 2:06:19 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
The disdain is for the homophobic undertones, but you knew that already.
My Christian nuclear family has none of that.
My cousin came out as trans recently. Everyone accepted his(formerly her) decision with love.
It's almost like they lie about us conservatives.

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Toonstrack
03/08/24 2:10:50 AM
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luigi33 posted...
Its nearly impossible to achieve the "nuclear family" in this day and age. Ontop of that, village raising the child is unironically superior.

Not if the village has a bunch of idiots.

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boxoto
03/08/24 2:13:50 AM
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RadDude9000 posted...
My Christian nuclear family has none of that.
My cousin came out as trans recently. Everyone accepted his(formerly her) decision with love.
It's almost like they lie about us conservatives.
they're talking about the poster who said that the left is against nuclear families.

of course there are a lot of people with nuclear families that have LGBTQ+ members, who are loved and accepted, even with conservatives.

but it's a conservative lie that the left is against nuclear families.

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ssjevot
03/08/24 2:14:19 AM
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You can also watch Obama say marriage is between one man and one woman on a bunch of clips online, because his opinions matched the demographics of the voting public. Once the majority of America supported gay marriage, so did he.

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metralo
03/08/24 2:14:36 AM
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trivialbeing posted...
never quite understood the left's disdain for the healthy nuclear family, the foundation of any civilization
probably because its a lie and only right wing freaks tell you this

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Heineken14
03/08/24 2:15:08 AM
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xlr_big-coop posted...
never

Why would you quote and agree with something that is obvious bullshit?

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Humble_Novice
03/08/24 2:18:02 AM
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I've tagged TC.

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Dark_Arbron
03/08/24 2:18:39 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
Why would you quote and agree with something that is obvious bullshit?

I mean, we both know the answer to that question.

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Dark_Arbron
03/08/24 2:20:40 AM
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RadDude9000 posted...
It's almost like they lie about us conservatives.

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Who was your last account? And which conservative opinion did it get banned for?

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shnangyboos
03/08/24 2:20:53 AM
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Toonstrack posted...
Not if the village has a bunch of idiots.


For real. I don't think people really put much thought into ideas like this. They just assume the "village" is going to share their values and principles.

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Heineken14
03/08/24 2:21:46 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
User Since: Jan 2024
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Who was your last account? And which conservative opinion did it get banned for?

Someone said it was realdill, which if true.... Yeah.

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BabyDahl
03/08/24 2:29:41 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
The nuclear family is the worst. Larger extended families more common in other countries is a far superior means of having a family.
Under one roof? Sheesh.

I mean, I could probably do it, but I'm just thinking of all the people who have said they won't speak to family members over perceived political differences and whatnot.

Good luck with that, I guess.
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Sub_Tank
03/08/24 2:37:29 AM
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It's good for society to provide male and female role models for children, even when it's not wrapped up neatly into a single unit. The nuclear family is just the simplest way of presenting that idea, whereas a complex model would contain a large list of exceptions, until the message becomes diluted and more about personal grievances.

Basically stop trying to dismantle the family.

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Lonestar2000
03/08/24 2:41:09 AM
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Tell that to all the families he drone striked.

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metralo
03/08/24 2:55:47 AM
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Sub_Tank posted...


Basically stop trying to dismantle the family.

yea no one is doing this at all

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ai123
03/08/24 2:56:43 AM
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The left has no disdain for the nuclear family.

The right tend to profess support as an under the radar snipe at gay couples and single mothers.

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Heineken14
03/08/24 2:58:34 AM
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ai123 posted...
The left has no disdain for the nuclear family.

Sure, but how would right wingers have any talking points if they didn't get to lie about literally everything?!?

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Kradek
03/08/24 3:31:41 AM
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Sun_Xiao posted...
Tbh, it's pretty impossible for everyone to have a son and a daughter because couples could have been unlucky for tried to get either son or daughter. My aunt didn't get girl after she gave 6 births ,so she gave up for tried to get girl.

This is true, however sometimes it just works out like that. I've known a few families with that structure and in my own my dad is from a family of 6 siblings, 3 boys & 3 girls, and my mom is from one of 4, 2 boys & 2 girls.

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Tyranthraxus
03/08/24 8:21:46 AM
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BabyDahl posted...
Under one roof? Sheesh.
Doesn't need to be under one roof. That's not how we did it in Italy.

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ScazarMeltex
03/08/24 8:41:16 AM
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trivialbeing posted...
never quite understood the left's disdain for the healthy nuclear family, the foundation of any civilization
Except as Tyranthraxus pointed out, it's not the nuclear family that civilization was founded on, it's the larger, extended family, that has been historically most effective.

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bigblu89
03/08/24 9:14:59 AM
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ai123 posted...
The left has no disdain for the nuclear family.

The right tend to profess support as an under the radar snipe at gay couples and single mothers.

I wouldn't call is disdain necessarily, but there is a certain pocket on the "U.S. Left" that has an aversion to anything considered traditional becasue the right tends to champion anything traditional.

I've experienced it myself on here. People dragging me simple becasue I live a firmly "normal" middle class life. Homeowner. Gen X, Straight. Married. 2 Kids. Apparently becasue of this I can't talk of the "Struggle" that Poor, LGBTQ, or Younger people go through.

But on topic... I grew up in what I'd consider an extended family. Mom, Dad, Sister, Grandmother, Uncle, Aunt, 2 Cousins all in the same house. I can't speak of which "family" is better, Nuclear, Extended, or Single-Parent, as I've only experienced one.

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