Current Events > IGN says Resident Evil 5 can't be remade, only re-written. Because it's racist.

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SrRobotniks 03/17/24 10:53:39 AM #151:	Baron_Ox posted... whether it's an assumption that they did it because they thought it's cool, or not, there's no denying they were exploiting the imagery. There is denying, it's all speculative, someone, somewhere is gonna think something is racist, so its like, why bother <cite>SrRobotniks posted [p:979415132] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Baron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>whether it's an assumption that they did it because they thought it's cool, or not, there's no denying they were exploiting the imagery.</quote>There is denying, it's all speculative, someone, somewhere is gonna think something is racist, so its like, why bother</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 03/17/24 10:56:05 AM #152:	like, capcom is weird like this. they definitely arent intending to be racist. i get this sense with japanese media in general, but its almost something like since they werent a part of the atlantic slave trade, they arent taking advantage of a group they are responsible for marginalizing and commodifying like in re0 u have that whole mai lai massacre in Africa subplot that goes nowhere i genuinely think capcom just does this shit because they think its cool. the issue is, that doesnt preclude it from being, again, at the very least, in poor taste --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:979415147] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>like, capcom is weird like this. they definitely arent intending to be racist. i get this sense with japanese media in general, but its almost something like since they werent a part of the atlantic slave trade, they arent taking advantage of a group they are responsible for marginalizing and commodifyinglike in re0 u have that whole mai lai massacre in Africa subplot that goes nowherei genuinely think capcom just does this shit because they think its cool. the issue is, that doesnt preclude it from being, again, at the very least, in poor taste </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baron_Ox 03/17/24 10:57:09 AM #153:	SrRobotniks posted... There is denying, it's all speculative, someone, somewhere is gonna think something is racist, so its like, why bother uh, no there isn't. they literally focused on stereotypical, racial imagery, created entire scenes around it, and couldn't even justify it within their own narrative. like someone posted earlier, if the game was set in China, and you had the zombies start dressing like rice farmers, that would be suspect. --- "I could never encapsulate all my cosmicality on my own." - mr. MFN eXquire. http://imgur.com/rvwNj.gif <cite>Baron_Ox posted [p:979415159] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>SrRobotniks posted... </cite><quote>There is denying, it's all speculative, someone, somewhere is gonna think something is racist, so its like, why bother</quote>uh, no there isn't. they literally focused on stereotypical, racial imagery, created entire scenes around it, and couldn't even justify it within their own narrative. like someone posted earlier, if the game was set in China, and you had the zombies start dressing like rice farmers, that would be suspect. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SrRobotniks 03/17/24 10:58:02 AM #154:	Baron_Ox posted... uh, no there isn't. Yes there is Baron_Ox posted... they literally focused on stereotypical, racial imagery, created entire scenes around it, and couldn't even justify it within their own narrative. they did not, and have explained why they're behaving the way they do Baron_Ox posted... like someone posted earlier, if the game was set in China, and you had the zombies start dressing like rice farmers, that would be suspect. Disagree, if it follows in game lore then its fine <cite>SrRobotniks posted [p:979415170] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Baron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>uh, no there isn't.</quote>Yes there isBaron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>they literally focused on stereotypical, racial imagery, created entire scenes around it, and couldn't even justify it within their own narrative.</quote>they did not, and have explained why they're behaving the way they doBaron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>like someone posted earlier, if the game was set in China, and you had the zombies start dressing like rice farmers, that would be suspect.</quote>Disagree, if it follows in game lore then its fine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VIIVincent 03/17/24 10:58:15 AM #155:	Dungeater posted... i have like 500 something hours on the game and the worst part is always 3-1 to 5-1 like are u actually kidding ive seen people claim some stupid shit out of spite in my day but come on now. this is like eating a log of shit in front of me and thru gritted teeth saying "yummers" I also have 500 something hours on it on the PS3 and played the demo when it first came out. You probably played it solo while I had coop. Different experiences man. --- This is the internet. You know the price it comes with when you have entered the filth and scum of this world. <cite>VIIVincent posted [p:979415175] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Dungeater posted... </cite><quote>i have like 500 something hours on the game and the worst part is always 3-1 to 5-1 like are u actually kidding ive seen people claim some stupid shit out of spite in my day but come on now. this is like eating a log of shit in front of me and thru gritted teeth saying "yummers"</quote>I also have 500 something hours on it on the PS3 and played the demo when it first came out. You probably played it solo while I had coop. Different experiences man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 03/17/24 10:59:35 AM #156:	Baron_Ox posted... uh, no there isn't. that guy literally just logged into that account for this thread, right now. these are his only posts and theyre all "lolno" save ur engagement for ppl who are worth --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:979415195] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Baron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>uh, no there isn't.</quote>that guy literally just logged into that account for this thread, right now. these are his only posts and theyre all "lolno"save ur engagement for ppl who are worth </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 03/17/24 11:00:50 AM #157:	VIIVincent posted... I also have 500 something hours on it on the PS3 and played the demo when it first came out. You probably played it solo while I had coop. Different experiences man. nope. i downloaded the japanese demo onto a burner disc and cracked open my 360 so i could mod the disc drive to play it early. every hour outside of maybe 8 of em when i played on my switch was coop --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:979415210] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>VIIVincent posted... </cite><quote>I also have 500 something hours on it on the PS3 and played the demo when it first came out. You probably played it solo while I had coop. Different experiences man.</quote>nope. i downloaded the japanese demo onto a burner disc and cracked open my 360 so i could mod the disc drive to play it early. every hour outside of maybe 8 of em when i played on my switch was coop </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baron_Ox 03/17/24 11:03:46 AM #158:	SrRobotniks posted... they did not, and have explained why they're behaving the way they do they only mentioned that they dressed differently, not why. SrRobotniks posted... Disagree, if it follows in game lore then its fine nothing in the series lore supports this. if you have any evidence, then feel free to post it. Dungeater posted... that guy literally just logged into that account for this thread, right now. these are his only posts and theyre all "lolno" save ur engagement for ppl who are worth true, but I don't really have anything to do until later, so I'm holding out hope they might add something meaningful. --- "I could never encapsulate all my cosmicality on my own." - mr. MFN eXquire. http://imgur.com/rvwNj.gif <cite>Baron_Ox posted [p:979415239] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>SrRobotniks posted... </cite><quote>they did not, and have explained why they're behaving the way they do</quote>they only mentioned that they dressed differently, not why.SrRobotniks posted... </cite><quote>Disagree, if it follows in game lore then its fine</quote>nothing in the series lore supports this.if you have any evidence, then feel free to post it.Dungeater posted... </cite><quote>that guy literally just logged into that account for this thread, right now. these are his only posts and theyre all "lolno"save ur engagement for ppl who are worth</quote>true, but I don't really have anything to do until later, so I'm holding out hope they might add something meaningful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 03/17/24 11:05:45 AM #159:	Baron_Ox posted... true, but I don't really have anything to do until later, so I'm holding out hope they might add something meaningful. they literally woke up, said "i want to drag responses out of ppl, with no effort" and got on here to repeatedly type "nope" they do not have anything to say and they will not. the entire point is to get u to block quote them chunk by chunk, while they barely participate --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:979415263] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Baron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>true, but I don't really have anything to do until later, so I'm holding out hope they might add something meaningful.</quote>they literally woke up, said "i want to drag responses out of ppl, with no effort" and got on here to repeatedly type "nope"they do not have anything to say and they will not. the entire point is to get u to block quote them chunk by chunk, while they barely participate </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SrRobotniks 03/17/24 11:06:29 AM #160:	Baron_Ox posted... they only mentioned that they dressed differently, not why. the virus, the mjini or whatever they're called Baron_Ox posted... nothing in the series lore supports this. 5's lore Baron_Ox posted... true, but I don't really have anything to do until later, so I'm holding out hope they might add something meaningful. blocked the guy cause dude was derailing, feel free to ignore me as well if you disagree, im not making anyone respond <cite>SrRobotniks posted [p:979415274] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Baron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>they only mentioned that they dressed differently, not why.</quote>the virus, the mjini or whatever they're calledBaron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>nothing in the series lore supports this.</quote>5's loreBaron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>true, but I don't really have anything to do until later, so I'm holding out hope they might add something meaningful.</quote>blocked the guy cause dude was derailing, feel free to ignore me as well if you disagree, im not making anyone respond</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 03/17/24 11:14:38 AM #161:	Baron_Ox posted... whether it's an assumption that they did it because they thought it's cool, or not, there's no denying they were exploiting the imagery. That's another assumption. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:979415375] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Baron_Ox posted...</cite><quote>whether it's an assumption that they did it because they thought it's cool, or not, there's no denying they were exploiting the imagery. </quote>That's another assumption. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baron_Ox 03/17/24 11:16:23 AM #162:	SrRobotniks posted... the virus, the mjini or whatever they're called as I said, the game doesn't say why they specifically dress like that, only that they do. SrRobotniks posted... 5's lore if it exists, you can easily post it since there are sites full of documents, diaries, conversations, etc. from the game. I've played the game, and nothing in the story supports why, and even posted my findings in post 37 of this topic. SrRobotniks posted... blocked the guy cause dude was derailing, feel free to ignore me as well if you disagree, im not making anyone respond I only responded to you because you responded to my post first, but I agree with Dungeater that you haven't contributed anything meaningful ITT. you only go on saying how it's not racist, without justifying anything, say how anything should be allowed (which is a different argument), and make up stuff about how the game supports its imagery, when there isn't one document that does. I don't block or ignore people, though. --- "I could never encapsulate all my cosmicality on my own." - mr. MFN eXquire. http://imgur.com/rvwNj.gif <cite>Baron_Ox posted [p:979415392] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>SrRobotniks posted... </cite><quote>the virus, the mjini or whatever they're called</quote>as I said, the game doesn't say why they specifically dress like that, only that they do.SrRobotniks posted... </cite><quote>5's lore</quote>if it exists, you can easily post it since there are sites full of documents, diaries, conversations, etc. from the game.I've played the game, and nothing in the story supports why, and even posted my findings in post 37 of this topic.SrRobotniks posted... </cite><quote>blocked the guy cause dude was derailing, feel free to ignore me as well if you disagree, im not making anyone respond</quote>I only responded to you because you responded to my post first, but I agree with Dungeater that you haven't contributed anything meaningful ITT. you only go on saying how it's not racist, without justifying anything, say how anything should be allowed (which is a different argument), and make up stuff about how the game supports its imagery, when there isn't one document that does. I don't block or ignore people, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baron_Ox 03/17/24 11:17:06 AM #163:	Revelation34 posted... That's another assumption. it isn't an assumption. from another post: they literally focused on stereotypical, racial imagery, created entire scenes around it, and couldn't even justify it within their own narrative. --- "I could never encapsulate all my cosmicality on my own." - mr. MFN eXquire. http://imgur.com/rvwNj.gif <cite>Baron_Ox posted [p:979415399] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>That's another assumption.</quote>it isn't an assumption. from another post:<quote>they literally focused on stereotypical, racial imagery, created entire scenes around it, and couldn't even justify it within their own narrative.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Srk700 03/17/24 11:18:08 AM #164:	Drrobotniks posted... Jill says hi Excella as well. <cite>Srk700 posted [p:979415410] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Drrobotniks posted... </cite><quote>Jill says hi</quote>Excella as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 03/17/24 11:20:40 AM #165:	Baron_Ox posted... t isn't an assumption. You said there is no denying it yet there will always be denial. So it's an assumption to say there is no denying. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:979415444] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Baron_Ox posted...</cite><quote>t isn't an assumption.</quote>You said there is no denying it yet there will always be denial. So it's an assumption to say there is no denying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baron_Ox 03/17/24 11:27:42 AM #166:	when you're using stereotypical, racial imagery just because your work takes place in a certain area, that's an example of exploiting it. --- "I could never encapsulate all my cosmicality on my own." - mr. MFN eXquire. http://imgur.com/rvwNj.gif <cite>Baron_Ox posted [p:979415537] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>when you're using stereotypical, racial imagery just because your work takes place in a certain area, that's an example of exploiting it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 03/17/24 11:48:16 AM #168:	they literally programmed in spear-chuckers in spite of the "spear-chucker" slur used on african people like bro saying "a virus did it" doesnt make the real-world implications any better. like, ok they thought itd look cool. that doesnt make it not racist (or bad taste). it doesnt require intent --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:979415801] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>they literally programmed in spear-chuckersin spite of the "spear-chucker" slur used on african people like brosaying "a virus did it" doesnt make the real-world implications any better. like, ok they thought itd look cool. that doesnt make it not racist (or bad taste). it doesnt require intent </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/17/24 11:48:51 AM #169:	Baron_Ox posted... when you're using stereotypical, racial imagery just because your work takes place in a certain area, that's an example of exploiting it. .... That's literally every Resident Evil. RE1 had a fat American cop cradling his gun like he was gonna buy it breakfast in the morning. RE4 was Spanish peasants with pitchforks RE6 had Chinese wetmarkets --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:979415807] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Baron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>when you're using stereotypical, racial imagery just because your work takes place in a certain area, that's an example of exploiting it.</quote>....That's literally every Resident Evil.RE1 had a fat American cop cradling his gun like he was gonna buy it breakfast in the morning.RE4 was Spanish peasants with pitchforksRE6 had Chinese wetmarkets </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 03/17/24 11:50:11 AM #170:	Baron PLEASE have more sense than to respond to Unfair PLEASE i am begging u i cant be the only reasonable person left --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:979415825] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Baron PLEASE have more sense than to respond to Unfair PLEASE i am begging ui cant be the only reasonable person left </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zwijn 03/17/24 11:50:47 AM #171:	It would be kind of weird if RE9 was set in The Netherlands, then a village gets infected and over time they start wearing the old fishmonger clothing and clogs their ancestors wore and are now only worn for some holiday. <cite>Zwijn posted [p:979415833] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>It would be kind of weird if RE9 was set in The Netherlands, then a village gets infected and over time they start wearing the old fishmonger clothing and clogs their ancestors wore and are now only worn for some holiday.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baron_Ox 03/17/24 11:51:05 AM #172:	UnfairRepresent posted... .... That's literally every Resident Evil. RE1 had a fat American cop cradling his gun like he was gonna buy it breakfast in the morning. RE4 was Spanish peasants with pitchforks RE6 had Chinese wetmarkets and? you can call those elements racist and/or racially exploitative. idk how pointing more examples refutes a point. --- "I could never encapsulate all my cosmicality on my own." - mr. MFN eXquire. http://imgur.com/rvwNj.gif <cite>Baron_Ox posted [p:979415839] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite><quote>....That's literally every Resident Evil.RE1 had a fat American cop cradling his gun like he was gonna buy it breakfast in the morning.RE4 was Spanish peasants with pitchforksRE6 had Chinese wetmarkets</quote>and?you can call those elements racist and/or racially exploitative. idk how pointing more examples refutes a point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baron_Ox 03/17/24 11:52:01 AM #173:	Dungeater posted... Baron PLEASE have more sense than to respond to Unfair PLEASE i am begging u i cant be the only reasonable person left lol, I just saw this post. I have too much CE in me. --- "I could never encapsulate all my cosmicality on my own." - mr. MFN eXquire. http://imgur.com/rvwNj.gif <cite>Baron_Ox posted [p:979415846] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Dungeater posted... </cite><quote>Baron PLEASE have more sense than to respond to Unfair PLEASE i am begging ui cant be the only reasonable person left</quote>lol, I just saw this post. I have too much CE in me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Agent_Stroud 03/17/24 11:54:55 AM #174:	UnfairRepresent posted... RE1 had a fat American cop cradling his gun like he was gonna buy it breakfast in the morning. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JALAKvn9tSY&pp=ygUNd2hhdCBza2VsZXRvcg%3D%3D --- "We're going to shake things up, Morgan. Like old times." -- Alex Yu, Prey (2017) <cite>Agent_Stroud posted [p:979415892] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite><quote>RE1 had a fat American cop cradling his gun like he was gonna buy it breakfast in the morning.</quote>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JALAKvn9tSY&pp=ygUNd2hhdCBza2VsZXRvcg%3D%3D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 03/17/24 11:56:08 AM #175:	Baron_Ox posted... lol, I just saw this post. I have too much CE in me. like it's the block quote thing. he posts stupid shit on purpose, throws a lot of points out there, cuz now u gotta waste ur time on him like there are so many obvious retorts. the first stereotype he brought up is going on right now, they dont have a history of marginalization and exploitation in them. he's also talking about barry, STARS do not resemble american cops at all the second thing he listed. what the fuck, guess i forgot about the "pitchfork-wielding, latin-american spanish speaking, grey ghoul spaniard farmers" stereotype the third thing - wetmarkets obviously exist all over the fucking place. including japan like do NOT bother with the guy --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:979415914] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Baron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>lol, I just saw this post. I have too much CE in me.</quote>like it's the block quote thing. he posts stupid shit on purpose, throws a lot of points out there, cuz now u gotta waste ur time on himlike there are so many obvious retorts. the first stereotype he brought up is going on right now, they dont have a history of marginalization and exploitation in them. he's also talking about barry, STARS do not resemble american cops at all the second thing he listed. what the fuck, guess i forgot about the "pitchfork-wielding, latin-american spanish speaking, grey ghoul spaniard farmers" stereotypethe third thing - wetmarkets obviously exist all over the fucking place. including japan like do NOT bother with the guy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
evilpresident 03/17/24 11:58:58 AM #176:	Zwijn posted... It would be kind of weird if RE9 was set in The Netherlands, then a village gets infected and over time they start wearing the old fishmonger clothing and clogs their ancestors wore and are now only worn for some holiday. Just imagine one of the big troll dudes and he's wearing wooden clogs to stomp on you. --- Nothing to report here <cite>evilpresident posted [p:979415952] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Zwijn posted... </cite><quote>It would be kind of weird if RE9 was set in The Netherlands, then a village gets infected and over time they start wearing the old fishmonger clothing and clogs their ancestors wore and are now only worn for some holiday.</quote>Just imagine one of the big troll dudes and he's wearing wooden clogs to stomp on you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Agent_Stroud 03/17/24 12:05:08 PM #177:	Dungeater posted... like it's the block quote thing. he posts stupid shit on purpose, throws a lot of points out there, cuz now u gotta waste ur time on him like there are so many obvious retorts. the first stereotype he brought up is going on right now, they dont have a history of marginalization and exploitation in them. he's also talking about barry, STARS do not resemble american cops at all the second thing he listed. what the fuck, guess i forgot about the "pitchfork-wielding, latin-american spanish speaking, grey ghoul spaniard farmers" stereotype the third thing - wetmarkets obviously exist all over the fucking place. including japan like do NOT bother with the guy Barrys also not fat, at least according to the Resident Evil Wiki as his height and weight listed would seem to indicate that while he is a bit stocky, hes still clearly in shape for active duty unlike some of the zombified RPD officers one can find in RE2, particularly in the remake where one overweight zombie cop is humorously pawing at a nearby vending machine before being alerted to the players presence. --- "We're going to shake things up, Morgan. Like old times." -- Alex Yu, Prey (2017) <cite>Agent_Stroud posted [p:979416069] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Dungeater posted... </cite><quote>like it's the block quote thing. he posts stupid shit on purpose, throws a lot of points out there, cuz now u gotta waste ur time on himlike there are so many obvious retorts. the first stereotype he brought up is going on right now, they dont have a history of marginalization and exploitation in them. he's also talking about barry, STARS do not resemble american cops at all the second thing he listed. what the fuck, guess i forgot about the "pitchfork-wielding, latin-american spanish speaking, grey ghoul spaniard farmers" stereotypethe third thing - wetmarkets obviously exist all over the fucking place. including japan like do NOT bother with the guy</quote>Barrys also not fat, at least according to the Resident Evil Wiki as his height and weight listed would seem to indicate that while he is a bit stocky, hes still clearly in shape for active duty unlike some of the zombified RPD officers one can find in RE2, particularly in the remake where one overweight zombie cop is humorously pawing at a nearby vending machine before being alerted to the players presence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/17/24 12:09:36 PM #178:	Agent_Stroud posted... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JALAKvn9tSY&pp=ygUNd2hhdCBza2VsZXRvcg%3D%3D Someone never played RE1 --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:979416133] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Agent_Stroud posted... </cite><quote>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JALAKvn9tSY&pp=ygUNd2hhdCBza2VsZXRvcg%3D%3D</quote>Someone never played RE1 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 03/17/24 3:24:54 PM #179:	Drrobotniks posted... Jill says hi Cool, a character who is not only part of the storyline, but the entire franchise. Sterling rebuttal when I'm talking about some random white woman bursting out of a door running away from a black man as the first thing you see in that village. Drrobotniks posted... Or maybe because there is no racism and people dont want to insert it where it doesn't exist Cool story, bro As an American I've heard the tired ol "the real racists are the ones who see racially motivated things and want to discuss the issue" plenty, thanks. Zwijn posted... I know a lot about racial stereotypes in Japanese games. I come from a country that is just as bad, if not worse, at this. I simply do not think that Capcom of all devs would be intentionally racist. You're basing that off nothing other than that's what you want it to be, though. Especially since you already acknowledged their history of racial stereotypes used in videogames, which is obviously intentional. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:979418850] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Drrobotniks posted... </cite><quote>Jill says hi</quote>Cool, a character who is not only part of the storyline, but the entire franchise. Sterling rebuttal when I'm talking about some random white woman bursting out of a door running away from a black man as the first thing you see in that village.Drrobotniks posted... </cite><quote>Or maybe because there is no racism and people dont want to insert it where it doesn't exist</quote>Cool story, broAs an American I've heard the tired ol "the real racists are the ones who see racially motivated things and want to discuss the issue" plenty, thanks. Zwijn posted... </cite><quote>I know a lot about racial stereotypes in Japanese games. I come from a country that is just as bad, if not worse, at this. I simply do not think that Capcom of all devs would be intentionally racist.</quote>You're basing that off nothing other than that's what you want it to be, though.Especially since you already acknowledged their history of racial stereotypes used in videogames, which is obviously intentional. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zwijn 03/17/24 3:31:08 PM #180:	Let me rephrase it: I dont think its malicious, just very ignorant, in contrast to some western countries who do know better and still maliciously keep some customs like Black Pete. <cite>Zwijn posted [p:979418950] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Let me rephrase it: I dont think its malicious, just very ignorant, in contrast to some western countries who do know better and still maliciously keep some customs like Black Pete.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 03/17/24 3:39:57 PM #181:	Zwijn posted... Let me rephrase it: I dont think its malicious, just very ignorant, in contrast to some western countries who do know better and still maliciously keep some customs like Black Pete. They intentionally made the decision and their industry's past usage of black racial stereotypes shows that they do understand the stereotypes as they exist and still intentionally choose to use them. Like I said, it's not their country's history so they don't really care about flippantly using such depictions. I also said at best it's tone deaf, but it just feels way too on the nose for me. At least a game like Dying Light takes place during some international games/competition which logically explains the non-residents you encounter in the game. She's just some random white woman, the only white person at all, in an impoverished African shanty town. They could have just made her like literally other female you see in that town and it would not even be a topic of discussion at all. They intentionally chose to depict it as they did. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:979419080] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Zwijn posted... </cite><quote>Let me rephrase it: I dont think its malicious, just very ignorant, in contrast to some western countries who do know better and still maliciously keep some customs like Black Pete.</quote>They intentionally made the decision and their industry's past usage of black racial stereotypes shows that they do understand the stereotypes as they exist and still intentionally choose to use them. Like I said, it's not their country's history so they don't really care about flippantly using such depictions. I also said at best it's tone deaf, but it just feels way too on the nose for me.At least a game like Dying Light takes place during some international games/competition which logically explains the non-residents you encounter in the game. She's just some random white woman, the only white person at all, in an impoverished African shanty town. They could have just made her like literally other female you see in that town and it would not even be a topic of discussion at all. They intentionally chose to depict it as they did. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 03/17/24 3:43:48 PM #182:	For the people that voted yes, how is RE5 racist? --- There's enough attention whores on CE already <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:979419141] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>For the people that voted yes, how is RE5 racist? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 03/17/24 4:32:44 PM #183:	Bishop9800 posted... For the people that voted yes, how is RE5 racist? Dungeater posted... they literally programmed in spear-chuckers in spite of the "spear-chucker" slur used on african people like bro saying "a virus did it" doesnt make the real-world implications any better. like, ok they thought itd look cool. that doesnt make it not racist (or bad taste). it doesnt require intent Dungeater posted... theres an entire stretch of game where the infected go native and revert to tribal clothes and weapons i understand the game isnt overtly and actively racist, but at the very least can we as gamers acknowledge that this may have been in poor taste --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:979419928] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Bishop9800 posted... </cite><quote>For the people that voted yes, how is RE5 racist?</quote>Dungeater posted... </cite><quote>they literally programmed in spear-chuckersin spite of the "spear-chucker" slur used on african peoplelike brosaying "a virus did it" doesnt make the real-world implications any better. like, ok they thought itd look cool. that doesnt make it not racist (or bad taste). it doesnt require intent</quote>Dungeater posted... </cite><quote>theres an entire stretch of game where the infected go native and revert to tribal clothes and weaponsi understand the game isnt overtly and actively racist, but at the very least can we as gamers acknowledge that this may have been in poor taste</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SrRobotniks 03/17/24 8:13:48 PM #184:	Bishop9800 posted... For the people that voted yes, how is RE5 racist? It's not <cite>SrRobotniks posted [p:979423107] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Bishop9800 posted... </cite><quote>For the people that voted yes, how is RE5 racist?</quote>It's not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 03/17/24 8:16:06 PM #185:	Yet RE4 every zombie is Spanish. Imagine MAGA playing RE4 and hears them all speaking Spanish. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:979423140] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Yet RE4 every zombie is Spanish.Imagine MAGA playing RE4 and hears them all speaking Spanish.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 03/17/24 8:19:03 PM #186:	WingsOfGood posted... Yet RE4 every zombie is Spanish. Imagine MAGA playing RE4 and hears them all speaking Spanish. the issue is not that the majini are black --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:979423189] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>Yet RE4 every zombie is Spanish.Imagine MAGA playing RE4 and hears them all speaking Spanish.</quote>the issue is not that the majini are black </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Agent_Stroud 03/17/24 8:21:45 PM #187:	WingsOfGood posted... Yet RE4 every zombie is Spanish. Imagine MAGA playing RE4 and hears them all speaking Spanish. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r94vuvwUSkY&pp=ygUJd2hhdCBtZW1l --- "We're going to shake things up, Morgan. Like old times." -- Alex Yu, Prey (2017) <cite>Agent_Stroud posted [p:979423221] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>Yet RE4 every zombie is Spanish.Imagine MAGA playing RE4 and hears them all speaking Spanish.</quote>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r94vuvwUSkY&pp=ygUJd2hhdCBtZW1l </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muflaggin 03/17/24 8:21:47 PM #188:	Also IGN. 9/10. Next. <cite>Muflaggin posted [p:979423223] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Also IGN. 9/10. Next.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 03/17/24 8:23:13 PM #189:	Dungeater posted... the issue is not that the majini are black Honestly barely remember RE5 other than it takes place in Africa and the big bad is actually Wesker. Just thought it is funny that RE4 gets the pass. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:979423243] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Dungeater posted... </cite><quote>the issue is not that the majini are black</quote>Honestly barely remember RE5 other than it takes place in Africa and the big bad is actually Wesker.Just thought it is funny that RE4 gets the pass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 03/17/24 8:34:19 PM #190:	WingsOfGood posted... Honestly barely remember RE5 other than it takes place in Africa and the big bad is actually Wesker. Just thought it is funny that RE4 gets the pass. do you ever talk about things you're informed on --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:979423369] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>Honestly barely remember RE5 other than it takes place in Africa and the big bad is actually Wesker.Just thought it is funny that RE4 gets the pass.</quote>do you ever talk about things you're informed on </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/17/24 8:35:37 PM #191:	Dungeater posted... do you ever talk about things you're informed on He didn't.... He talked about RE4 and then you quoted him and brought up RE5 and the black zombies wtf why so aggressive? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:979423383] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Dungeater posted... </cite><quote>do you ever talk about things you're informed on</quote>He didn't....He talked about RE4 and then you quoted him and brought up RE5 and the black zombieswtf why so aggressive? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Torgo 03/17/24 8:37:14 PM #192:	WingsOfGood posted... Just thought it is funny that RE4 gets the pass. What did RE4 have that was offensive? I played the Wii version many years ago, did it get cut out of that version? --- Aren't we all just a series of tubes? <cite>Torgo posted [p:979423396] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>Just thought it is funny that RE4 gets the pass.</quote>What did RE4 have that was offensive? I played the Wii version many years ago, did it get cut out of that version? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/17/24 8:39:46 PM #193:	Torgo posted... What did RE4 have that was offensive? I played the Wii version many years ago, did it get cut out of that version? White American ubermensch runs around foreign country with a babe shooting foreigners that wear sterotypical dated costumes and talk in another language. I mean RE5 was pretty much just RE4 with co-op. It's kinda hard to claim one is racist and the other isn't. All you do then is expose that only care about specific groups. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:979423423] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Torgo posted... </cite><quote>What did RE4 have that was offensive? I played the Wii version many years ago, did it get cut out of that version?</quote>White American ubermensch runs around foreign country with a babe shooting foreigners that wear sterotypical dated costumes and talk in another language.I mean RE5 was pretty much just RE4 with co-op. It's kinda hard to claim one is racist and the other isn't. All you do then is expose that only care about specific groups. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Torgo 03/17/24 8:41:42 PM #194:	UnfairRepresent posted... I mean RE5 was pretty much just RE4 with co-op. It's kinda hard to claim one is racist and the other isn't. All you do then is expose that only care about specific groups. So then you do think RE 4 and 5 are both racist? --- Aren't we all just a series of tubes? <cite>Torgo posted [p:979423445] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite><quote>I mean RE5 was pretty much just RE4 with co-op. It's kinda hard to claim one is racist and the other isn't. All you do then is expose that only care about specific groups.</quote>So then you do think RE 4 and 5 are both racist? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heavy_D_Forever 03/17/24 8:42:47 PM #195:	It's a video game.... about zombies... it's not real life lol People will cry and bitch about anything these days. It's fucking embarrassing. --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES <cite>Heavy_D_Forever posted [p:979423460] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>It's a video game.... about zombies... it's not real life lolPeople will cry and bitch about anything these days. It's fucking embarrassing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 03/17/24 8:54:24 PM #197:	Torgo posted... So then you do think RE 4 and 5 are both racist? I don't think either is racist. It was made by Japanese dudes and is about as apolitical as it gets beyond "Big Pharma/Hyper Capitalism is bad" which they're not even riding as hard as Dead Rising did. They have no dog in the fight. It's a game about shooting zombies, they pick different locales to make the games more varied and interesting rather than the same thing over and over. Reminder that OG RE2 (now called 1.5) was literally cancelled 70% into development for being too similar to RE1. RE3 was supposed to be a side title, not a main one. CV was supposed to be RE3. RE1, 2, CV, 4, 5, 6,7 and 8 (also Rev1 and Rev2) all have very different locations and distinctive enemies to set them apart. You can instantly recongize what mainline RE game it is (aside from RE2/3) just from a glance due to visual design. But each one despite being visually different was full of sterotypes. You can count the characters who aren't sterotypes in Resident Evil on one hand. I think at best you can argue 40 year old Japanese dudes are insensitive to the optics of how something might be percieved in the west. A California studio wouldn't have black dudes in tribal skirts or a villain turn out to be a crossdresser and the "heroes" be more angry about that than the literal zombies. But i don't really get how you can claim RE5 is racist without claiming at least 3, 4 and 6 are too. There's no malice behind it. It's all clearly designed to make the game better and more varied/distinctive/interesting. It just reeks to me of "Stereotypes and massacring Foreigners is fine as a rule but it's different when it's black people" which the IGN article effectively said. I think if you single out one specific one as "This is racist but the rest are ok" you've kinda just exposed your own prejudice of the only group you care about. I mean RE6 has a segment were: ~~You very slowly drive around China watching sterotypical Chinese people die in agony all around you and no one called it a Neo-Nazi roller coaster.~~ --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:979423608] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Torgo posted... </cite><quote>So then you do think RE 4 and 5 are both racist?</quote>I don't think either is racist. It was made by Japanese dudes and is about as apolitical as it gets beyond "Big Pharma/Hyper Capitalism is bad" which they're not even riding as hard as Dead Rising did. They have no dog in the fight. It's a game about shooting zombies, they pick different locales to make the games more varied and interesting rather than the same thing over and over.Reminder that OG RE2 (now called 1.5) was literally cancelled 70% into development for being too similar to RE1. RE3 was supposed to be a side title, not a main one. CV was supposed to be RE3.RE1, 2, CV, 4, 5, 6,7 and 8 (also Rev1 and Rev2) all have very different locations and distinctive enemies to set them apart. You can instantly recongize what mainline RE game it is (aside from RE2/3) just from a glance due to visual design. But each one despite being visually different was full of sterotypes. You can count the characters who aren't sterotypes in Resident Evil on one hand.I think at best you can argue 40 year old Japanese dudes are insensitive to the optics of how something might be percieved in the west. A California studio wouldn't have black dudes in tribal skirts or a villain turn out to be a crossdresser and the "heroes" be more angry about that than the literal zombies.But i don't really get how you can claim RE5 is racist without claiming at least 3, 4 and 6 are too. There's no malice behind it. It's all clearly designed to make the game better and more varied/distinctive/interesting. It just reeks to me of "Stereotypes and massacring Foreigners is fine as a rule but it's different when it's black people" which the IGN article effectively said.I think if you single out one specific one as "This is racist but the rest are ok" you've kinda just exposed your own prejudice of the only group you care about.I mean RE6 has a segment were: You very slowly drive around China watching sterotypical Chinese people die in agony all around you and no one called it a Neo-Nazi roller coaster. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 03/17/24 8:57:35 PM #198:	^he is aware the issue does not boil down to "stereotypes", as well as the several other lies in his post he wants you to waste your evening typing reply after reply --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:979423666] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>^he is aware the issue does not boil down to "stereotypes", as well as the several other lies in his post he wants you to waste your evening typing reply after reply </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baron_Ox 03/17/24 8:58:17 PM #199:	there doesn't have to be malice for something to be considered racist. a lot of racism is based on just plain old ignorance and/or insensitivity towards how people are regarded, which seems to be the case in this game (and the other examples you used, before you go off). --- "I could never encapsulate all my cosmicality on my own." - mr. MFN eXquire. http://imgur.com/rvwNj.gif <cite>Baron_Ox posted [p:979423679] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>there doesn't have to be malice for something to be considered racist.a lot of racism is based on just plain old ignorance and/or insensitivity towards how people are regarded, which seems to be the case in this game (and the other examples you used, before you go off). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/17/24 9:03:28 PM #200:	Baron_Ox posted... there doesn't have to be malice for something to be considered racist. I guess not. But we're literally talking about something so severe you cannot make it for a modern audience because it's so offensive. Like a Triple A remake of Custer's Revenge level of problematic. I just don't see that in the same game that has a dude punching a boulder and one of the OG protaganists cosplaying as Nina Williams just because the horny Devs thought blonds are hot. a lot of racism is based on just plain old ignorance and/or insensitivity towards how people are regarded, which seems to be the case in this game (and the other examples you used, before you go off). Yeah I definately don't think Capcom ever gave a fig about sensitivity. Not even because they're jerks or anything. I mean legit I don't think the optics crossed their mind. They just did what they thought looked cool. Like when they couldn't think of a way to use all the set-pieces they came up with in Rev 1 ~~so they literally made it part of the plot that the game has 3 identical gigantic cruiseships rather than change their ideas~~ --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:979423757] in IGN says R... [t:80722926]...</cite> <quote>Baron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>there doesn't have to be malice for something to be considered racist.</quote>I guess not. But we're literally talking about something so severe you cannot make it for a modern audience because it's so offensive.Like a Triple A remake of Custer's Revenge level of problematic. I just don't see that in the same game that has a dude punching a boulder and one of the OG protaganists cosplaying as Nina Williams just because the horny Devs thought blonds are hot.<quote>a lot of racism is based on just plain old ignorance and/or insensitivity towards how people are regarded, which seems to be the case in this game (and the other examples you used, before you go off).</quote>Yeah I definately don't think Capcom ever gave a fig about sensitivity.Not even because they're jerks or anything. I mean legit I don't think the optics crossed their mind. They just did what they thought looked cool.Like when they couldn't think of a way to use all the set-pieces they came up with in Rev 1 so they literally made it part of the plot that the game has 3 identical gigantic cruiseships rather than change their ideas </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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