Board 8 > Next time LMS makes a topic

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Lets just all go in there and unironically discuss the fuck out of it

Whos with me

Not me

I think that will only encourage more, so I don't think I'm sold on that idea

We should discuss Super Mario 3D Land in the next LMS topic

Maybe unpopular opinion but people are unnaturally obsessed with this guy.

Snake5555555555 posted...

Maybe unpopular opinion but people are unnaturally obsessed with this guy.

I'll try and justify mine.

For me, it's a look into the right wing obsessed moviegoers but done by someone completely harmless. It's very entertaining to see what's happening in a corner of the internet by someone who doesn't know how influenced he is by it. I never want to actually watch what he's watching because fuck those people, but there are a decent amount who do. It's slightly masochistic but it's fun.

Edit - should have also said the naivety of it is the best part.

Snake5555555555 posted...

Maybe unpopular opinion but people are unnaturally obsessed with this guy.

Probably because his very existence is unnatural

I'm with Aecioo. He's a grown man sharing his experience with us, but his naivety is equivalent to a 7ish year old. There are millions of children around that age targeted by the same people he watches, and they are indoctrinated into movements as they get older. It's an intentional system and it tries to stay low key so it can continue to thrive, because parents would be furious if they knew what was going on.

i need topics to remind me that LMS makes topics

I wonder how many I've been gleefully missing now

Snake5555555555 posted...

Maybe unpopular opinion but people are unnaturally obsessed with this guy.

literally obsessed

Grimlyn posted...

i need topics to remind me that LMS makes topics

I wonder how many I've been gleefully missing now

Ive learned blocking nobody is the definitive board 8 experience. Otherwise how will i know if shes HOT????

I guess I can get that perspective but it's genuinely hard to see sometimes if its meant to be a helpful thing or if it's just bullying for the sake of it.

TomNook7 posted...

literally obsessed

I missed my opportunity

Snake5555555555 posted...

I guess I can get that perspective but it's genuinely hard to see sometimes if its meant to be a helpful thing or if it's just bullying for the sake of it.

It can't be bullying if it has absolutely zero effect on the target

Snake5555555555 posted...

I guess I can get that perspective but it's genuinely hard to see sometimes if its meant to be a helpful thing or if it's just bullying for the sake of it.

Some of each I'd say. Depends on who is responding.

Leonhart4 posted...

It can't be bullying if it has absolutely zero effect on the target

This aspect in particular made me feel the need to block him. He's one of the rare net negatives on the board predominantly because he doesn't engage in conversation. Even when he quotes a post, the information he dumps underneath it is largely not germane to the post he supposedly chose to reply to. Someone described him in another topic as an AI poster, and that's extremely fair. A message board is supposed to be for the exchange of ideas, but LMS neither has ideas of his own nor exchanges them for anyone else's.

Essentially, he's bloat on any topic. I'm wasting time even glancing at his posts to see who posted them.

Hbthebattle posted...

We should discuss Super Mario 3D Land in the next LMS topic

Game is legit underrated af and I wholeheartedly endorse more discussion of it.

That being said I've been warned for posting song lyrics in his topics so thread lightly

foolm0r0n posted...

He's a grown man sharing his experience with us, but his naivety is equivalent to a 7ish year old.

How do we know this though? User728 comes to all of my playthrough topics just to troll me, and youd think he was 7, but really hes a successful lawyer with a wife and kids

Has anybody ever actually gotten to know LMS?

I'm pretty sure he's just trolling at this point, he's leaned more and more into the shtick over time

TomNook7 posted...

Has anybody ever actually gotten to know LMS?

We have tried. As mentioned he doesn't engage with anyone trying to have an actual conversation with him.

Which is why I'm sticking to my theory that he's an AI. If he was just a regular troll looking for attention, wouldn't he post in topics like this? He won't though, and that seems unnatural to me.

But who knows, maybe he is just super committed to the bit and if so I can respect that as well.

I think the only thing we've been able to glean about LMS is that he's from India.

Leonhart4 posted...

It can't be bullying if it has absolutely zero effect on the target

It's non zero for sure. People thought bullying ertyu wasn't real either but it was.

I suppose I have a different view in that I think LMS is actually more self aware than people realise and doing it on purpose. So the best way is to just not engage.

The treatment of LMS is generally pretty vile, and his footprint is not all-encompassing enough that blocking/ignoring him isn't a solution

Like he isn't 2011 Ulti or some shit where blocking him would have served no purpose because topics just got immediately derailed by him - he got very specifically personal, insulting and rude and people were compelled to respond. LMS' posts are almost exclusively naive, impersonal, easily-ignored word salads.

Also LMS has, in the past, gotten every angry with multiple users and attacked them, mostly in retaliation, so to say it has 0 effect isn't true. That said, yes, his capacity to just blithely ignore it all is definitely something.

LMS hasn't done anything like that in many years, so either he's totally risen above it or it's what he wants now.

This isn't something like ertyu where you got clear reactions from him when you trolled him. People just doubted whether he was real or an act.

Leonhart4 posted...

LMS hasn't done anything like that in many years, so either he's totally risen above it or it's what he wants now.

Didn't he call you out for bullying him in the MCU topic, causing you to block him, like a year ago?

XIII_Rocks posted...

Didn't he call you out for bullying him in the MCU topic, causing you to block him, like a year ago?

That would be an odd reason for me to block him.

I don't remember the exact thing that caused me to block him. It was just the accumulation of years of nonsense that made me decide it wasn't worth it to keep dealing with him anymore.

And based on what little I've heard about him since then, nothing has changed, so life has moved on just fine for the both of us.

LMS is harmless but like, I just dont really want to read anything he posts so hes a good ignore like red sox

LMS is harmless, but can we stop pretending like he's really being bullied?

Everyone here has made it clear that they don't care about these bizarre rants he gets from right wing grifters and being like "Hahaha yeah I know anyway here's some more things I learned from there."

People don't go out of their way to find LMS posts and start talking shit and actively being cruel to him. They are just saying "What the fuck man?" when he jumps into a topic to spread his nonsense. Where are all of these bullying posts when he comes in with some nonsense that he knows that nobody cares about hearing? If LMS has a problem with people telling him to shut up then maybe he should stop posting things he knows nobody here wants to hear about.

Leonhart4 posted...

That would be an odd reason for me to block him.

I don't remember the exact thing that caused me to block him. It was just the accumulation of years of nonsense that made me decide it wasn't worth it to keep dealing with him anymore.

And based on what little I've heard about him since then, nothing has changed, so life has moved on just fine for the both of us.

I mean I went and found it. MCU General 13, you tell him to stop, he comes back with an accusation of cyberbullying and then you say "aaaand goodbye".

So regardless of your reason to block him, "no effect" simply isn't true. I will say though that you blocking him is definitely an improvement and a course of action others should follow

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

LMS is harmless, but can we stop pretending like he's really being bullied?

Everyone here has made it clear that they don't care about these bizarre rants he gets from right wing grifters and being like "Hahaha yeah I know anyway here's some more things I learned from there."

People don't go out of their way to find LMS posts and start talking shit and actively being cruel to him. They are just saying "What the fuck man?" when he jumps into a topic to spread his nonsense. Where are all of these bullying posts when he comes in with some nonsense that he knows that nobody cares about hearing? If LMS has a problem with people telling him to shut up then maybe he should stop posting things he knows nobody here wants to hear about.

Or maybe people should stop telling him to shut up? It is clearly not actually going to make him shut up. It hasn't until now. Making those posts is not some selfless thing about helping LMS, it's a selfish release of frustration.

I'd say when it's multiple people repeatedly attacking a single guy who hasn't actually made any personal attacks themselves, bullying is a fair assessment. Even when they have, it could be considered that (see ertyu).

Nothing anybody says has absolutely any effect on what he posts. Him having an occasional reaction to something somebody says to him doesn't change my original assertion. There is zero reason to engage him other than to mock what he posts (unless you agree with him, I guess) because you can't have a conversation with LMS the person.

If anyone still wants to get their giggles that way, I don't begrudge them. It makes literally no difference. I just got tired of it.

XIII_Rocks posted...

Or maybe people should stop telling him to shut up? It is clearly not actually going to make him shut up. It hasn't until now. Making those posts is not some selfless thing about helping LMS, it's a selfish release of frustration.

I'd say when it's multiple people repeatedly attacking a single guy who hasn't actually made any personal attacks themselves, bullying is a fair assessment. Even when they have, it could be considered that (see ertyu).

No, the selfless thing was when people went out of their way, many times, to get him to understand that it's not healthy to keep following those weirdo grifters and that he should try to come up with opinions on his own and that he shouldn't shoehorn these thoughts from right wing phonies into every conversation.

The telling him to shut up after came from him refusing to listen. It should really be so incredibly easy for him to say "Alright, I guess these folks don't want to hear with the Quartering has to say about Brie Larsen today, so I'll just not bring it up." And yet he continually does. People could not be more clear to him. At some point, people like that should be told to shut up because they clearly aren't getting it.

"But if you tell him to shut up, he still won't get it." Then in that case who cares. But we don't need people pearl clutching for LMS of all people when he's brought the way he's treated her entirely on himself.

LMS has found his way to other quarters of places I frequent, and he's the exact same way there

Leonhart4 posted...

Nothing anybody says has absolutely any effect on what he posts. Him having an occasional reaction to something somebody says to him doesn't change my original assertion.

So you mean that he won't change his way of posting (ie he's still going to post these word salads about the mcu, star wars, youtubers, etc) despite being attacked every time he makes a post - and this lack of change on his part is what makes it not bullying, somehow?

when he goes into other topics and people ask him to stop, he knows every person there wants him to stop, and he doesn't stop, it's pretty fair game to tell him to shut up and go away

XIII_Rocks posted...

So you mean that he won't change his way of posting (ie he's still going to post these word salads about the mcu, star wars, youtubers, etc) despite being attacked every time he makes a post - and this lack of change on his part is what makes it not bullying, somehow?

Calling people out for bad posts isn't always bullying, no. I know your philosophy is always "just ignore it," which I'd argue isn't always the best policy.

In LMS's case, it actually works because he doesn't pay attention to anyone anyway, but I'd argue he's the exception.

Like if your goal is to make us all realize we were the bad guys all along, sorry, that's not gonna happen.

LMS is an AI with a prompt to talk about Star Wars, Other M, and right wing YouTube as much as possible

XIII is an AI with a prompt to virtue signal as much as possible at all times

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

No, the selfless thing was when people went out of their way, many times, to get him to understand that it's not healthy to keep following those weirdo grifters and that he should try to come up with opinions on his own and that he shouldn't shoehorn these thoughts from right wing phonies into every conversation.

The telling him to shut up after came from him refusing to listen. It should really be so incredibly easy for him to say "Alright, I guess these folks don't want to hear with the Quartering has to say about Brie Larsen today, so I'll just not bring it up." And yet he continually does. People could not be more clear to him. At some point, people like that should be told to shut up because they clearly aren't getting it.

"But if you tell him to shut up, he still won't get it." Then in that case who cares. But we don't need people pearl clutching for LMS of all people when he's brought the way he's treated her entirely on himself.

Unless you think the whole thing is a meticulously constructed and false persona (in which case attacking him is playing into his hands), you are simply attacking him for being who he is.

ertyu rigged contests and insulted people all the time. The way the board treated him was still bullying. "He brought this all on himself" is bully victim blaming statement 101.

This is the way LMS is. It is clearly not going to change. This is not some created online persona (it's possible he has self awareness and has dialled it up, but I have my doubts). So then you're just attacking a guy for being the way he is - when "the way he is" is someone who virtually never insults anybody on a personal level, posting on a forum where there's a way to both never see his posts and ensure he never sees yours. Yet people choose to repeatedly dogpile on him whenever he makes a topic or post.

LMS 110% has self-awareness for what he's doing

LMS has awareness but its on us for constantly enabling his behavior by engaging him

perhaps we are the ones who need to stop

"LMS never makes personal attacks"

Of course he doesn't. He'd have to learn something about us to do that.

That doesn't make him an "innocent victim" though. Either he's oblivious to how he makes people feel (which is only possible if he actually doesn't read anyone else's posts) or he's annoying people on purpose.

Like you're absolving LMS for his behavior simply because he doesn't insult anyone.

VeryInsane posted...

LMS has awareness but its on us for constantly enabling his behavior by engaging him

perhaps we are the ones who need to stop

I don't think he stops if no one engages

Look at the Marvel topic. Dude just randomly posts there several times a topic and most of the time the only engagement he gets is Aecioo saying "tell me more!"

Doesn't stop him

Leonhart4 posted...

Calling people out for bad posts isn't always bullying, no. I know your philosophy is always "just ignore it," which I'd argue isn't always the best policy.

In LMS's case, it actually works because he doesn't pay attention to anyone anyway, but I'd argue he's the exception.

Like if your goal is to make us all realize we were the bad guys all along, sorry, that's not gonna happen.

Nah this is different to like MWC or whoever because they were deliberately and offensively provocative and attacking him was playing into his hands, and I don't get why you would ever want to do that

It comes down to the same thing - don't respond - but MWC and his ilk deliberately provoked attacks, while LMS is definitely not doing that. He's just posting his youtuber word salads and you can just...glaze right over them rather than dogpiling on his every post. It is simply the way he is. It's not going to change (certainly not because of the 4 millionth "shut up" post), and if the way he is is that unbearable to you, the ignore/block button is right there.

Nah, LMS doesn't change his behavior based on what anyone does to him.

Which is why I think it's fine to block him. He probably has no clue I blocked him.

XIII_Rocks posted...

Nah this is different to like MWC or whoever because they were deliberately and offensively provocative and attacking him was playing into his hands, and I don't get why you would ever want to do that

I'm glad we have you here so we can know clearly which posters are posting to provoke and which are just annoying innocent victims

Someone talking about right wing youtubers definitely isn't anything that someone would do to intentionally annoy anyone here, because when I think of board 8-- they just love ultra right wing stuff

LMS would absolutely continue if people stopped engaging him yes. He's quite clearly not driven by like, dialogue.

Honestly you should feel worse for being mean to MWC than LMS

MWC showed that he would actually react to things told to him

LMS does not care what anybody says whatsoever that much is obvious

To me you're much more likely to actually make MWC feel bad and you can't convince me LMS isn't doing what he is doing for any less "malicious" way than MWC was

It's just an arbitrary distinction so people can't call you a hypocrite when you're virtue signaling

XIII_Rocks posted...

Or maybe people should stop telling him to shut up? It is clearly not actually going to make him shut up. It hasn't until now. Making those posts is not some selfless thing about helping LMS, it's a selfish release of frustration.

I'd say when it's multiple people repeatedly attacking a single guy who hasn't actually made any personal attacks themselves, bullying is a fair assessment. Even when they have, it could be considered that (see ertyu).

This is a bad take

Telling people their actions are unwanted is how you get them to stop (or, well, you punch the daylights out of them if they don't take the hint/escalate legally/whatever else is the next step from 'stop'). If gamefaqs modding policy was sensible there would be a 'report for inappropriate content' option and we'd just use that en masse, but we don't have that so telling him 'you're stupid, shut up' is what we got.

KanzarisKelshen posted...

but we don't have that so telling him 'you're stupid, shut up' is what we got.

And from what I've seen most people aren't even that blatant about it. It's often hidden by sarcasm which LMS doesn't understand anyway. So he probably takes those remarks as compliments.