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LonelyStoner
03/19/24 1:28:01 PM
#51:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
Theres a difference between that and what Zaheer does. Azula, and other firebenders, have zero agility. They can only propel.

Zaheer can fly without using his hands. He can fly and do dips and turns.

Ironically, Aang flies when he goes in avatar state almost every time. I dunno if that was intentional, but would make sense.
Azula had tons of agility.

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MEGAsoldier
03/19/24 2:26:57 PM
#52:


LonelyStoner posted...
Azula had tons of agility.

It has been a hot minute but my memory of all the firebenders flying was always short one direction propulsion.

Zaheer was a straight DBZ character with his flying.
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LeCh0nk
03/19/24 2:28:24 PM
#53:


MEGAsoldier posted...
Zaheer was a straight DBZ character with his flying.
Oh man, just imagine an Avatar who could fly like that. They'd actually be able to pull off some DBZ levels of bullshit with that and firebending.

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LonelyStoner
03/19/24 2:28:55 PM
#54:


MEGAsoldier posted...
It has been a hot minute but my memory of all the firebenders flying was always short one direction propulsion.

Zaheer was a straight DBZ character with his flying.
Oh I didnt mean flying. I meant extremely agile with her fighting techniques, physical and bending.

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cuttin_in_farm
03/19/24 3:54:18 PM
#55:


LonelyStoner posted...
Oh I didnt mean flying. I meant extremely agile with her fighting techniques, physical and bending.

But my agility comment is specifically her flight

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Nirvanas_Nox
03/19/24 4:05:03 PM
#56:


MEGAsoldier posted...
Not only did I love Legend of Korra I loved the pro bending scenes too fk them haters

Honestly same. I actually liked season 2. Was my favorite. Especially the Wan stuff.

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cuttin_in_farm
03/19/24 4:38:28 PM
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Antagonist Varrick > Protagonist Varrick, imo.

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pegusus123456
03/19/24 5:06:42 PM
#58:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
Antagonist Varrick > Protagonist Varrick, imo.
Agreed. I really enjoyed the goofy joke character turning out to be the bad guy. Especially since he turned out to still be goofy even as he was being sinister.

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Nirvanas_Nox
03/19/24 10:46:54 PM
#59:


Zhu li, do the thing!

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Delirious_Beard
03/19/24 11:39:22 PM
#60:


bad show

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Trumpo
03/19/24 11:45:44 PM
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Remember when Nickelodeon didn't have the balls to air the Korrasami shipping on their channel?

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dancing_cactuar
03/19/24 11:54:34 PM
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Can we just agree that the Dark Avatar concept was some really stupid shit.

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pegusus123456
03/19/24 11:55:49 PM
#63:


dancing_cactuar posted...
Can we just agree that the Dark Avatar concept was some really stupid shit.
Yes.

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Antiyonder
03/19/24 11:57:09 PM
#64:


NoxObscuras posted...
I thought it was a great show that suffered from not being set up as one continuous story the way TLA was.

I never understand why this is a problem when Gargoyles, or heck various Marvel and DC shows are the same.

And besides, ATLA was lightning in a bottle in that sort. Only way you want a singular type of storyline goal is if the writer is willing to end it, or you might say get a show that has to stall certain developments to go on if popular.

A new story if done well means you can continue the property without stalling certain stories or developments.

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Nirvanas_Nox
03/20/24 3:18:38 AM
#65:


Trumpo posted...
Remember when Nickelodeon didn't have the balls to air the Korrasami shipping on their channel?

I remember when they made it so you could only watch it on the website.

dancing_cactuar posted...
Can we just agree that the Dark Avatar concept was some really stupid shit.

No.

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masterpug53
03/20/24 9:11:36 AM
#66:


Trumpo posted...
Remember when Nickelodeon didn't have the balls to air the Korrasami shipping on their channel?

And now they use Korra's image when patting themselves on the back every time June rolls around.

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masterpug53
03/20/24 9:22:50 AM
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dancing_cactuar posted...
Can we just agree that the Dark Avatar concept was some really stupid shit.

Agreed. It's so trite to force a more westernized good-evil dichotomy onto an anime-inspired show. I mean it's not like there preexists anything in Eastern philosophy about opposing forces of light and dark, in which a small portion of one side can always be found in its opposite...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c5fb8dd2.jpg

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Nirvanas_Nox
03/20/24 11:08:12 AM
#68:


masterpug53 posted...
Agreed. It's so trite to force a more westernized good-evil dichotomy onto an anime-inspired show. I mean it's not like there preexists anything in Eastern philosophy about opposing forces of light and dark, in which a small portion of one side can always be found in its opposite...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c5fb8dd2.jpg

That's why I didn't think it was stupid. It was all about balance and some people didn't like it or understand. The whole season was about it.

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dave_is_slick
03/20/24 11:12:43 AM
#69:


masterpug53 posted...
Agreed. It's so trite to force a more westernized good-evil dichotomy onto an anime-inspired show. I mean it's not like there preexists anything in Eastern philosophy about opposing forces of light and dark, in which a small portion of one side can always be found in its opposite...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c5fb8dd2.jpg
That isn't the "gotcha" you think it is.

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Yazarogi
03/20/24 11:14:42 AM
#70:


Legend of Korra is a series that initially I did not like. However, each season was better than the one before it.

There are things I hate, like severing the connection to all the previous Avatars. But what can ya do.

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masterpug53
03/20/24 11:25:45 AM
#71:


dave_is_slick posted...
That isn't the "gotcha" you think it is.

You stand out as a person whose opinions on media in general have never been particularly respectable, so your copy-paste observation doesn't carry the weight you think it does.

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dancing_cactuar
03/20/24 12:14:04 PM
#72:


masterpug53 posted...
Agreed. It's so trite to force a more westernized good-evil dichotomy onto an anime-inspired show. I mean it's not like there preexists anything in Eastern philosophy about opposing forces of light and dark, in which a small portion of one side can always be found in its opposite...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c5fb8dd2.jpg
Considering how Yinyang/taijitu represent opposites that are simultaneously complementary while Raava and Vaatu are directly antagonistic towards each other in essentially eternal conflict, this comparison does not work at all apart from how a defeated Vaatu will eventually come back from Raava and vice versa.

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dave_is_slick
03/20/24 12:24:57 PM
#73:


masterpug53 posted...
You stand out as a person whose opinions on media in general have never been particularly respectable, so your copy-paste observation doesn't carry the weight you think it does.
Oh no, whatever shall I do?

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LeCh0nk
03/20/24 12:30:24 PM
#74:


masterpug53 posted...
Agreed. It's so trite to force a more westernized good-evil dichotomy onto an anime-inspired show. I mean it's not like there preexists anything in Eastern philosophy about opposing forces of light and dark, in which a small portion of one side can always be found in its opposite...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c5fb8dd2.jpg
The problem isn't that, it's the whole Raava-Vaatu thing. Dark Avatar could have been fine if it wasn't just some God-like being hellbent on eternal darkness or some shit.

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masterpug53
03/20/24 12:37:17 PM
#75:


LeCh0nk posted...
The problem isn't that, it's the whole Raava-Vaatu thing. Dark Avatar could have been fine if it wasn't just some God-like being hellbent on eternal darkness or some shit.

And that's fine; Unalaq is a loser, and the execution of the concept leaves a lot to be desired. But the initial post called the concept itself trash, which I disagree with.

dave_is_slick posted...
Oh no, whatever shall I do?

I reasonably assume you will continue on your merry way making substance-free media observations and valueless comebacks.

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dave_is_slick
03/20/24 2:11:45 PM
#76:


masterpug53 posted...
I reasonably assume you will continue on your merry way making substance-free media observations and valueless comebacks.
You needed it explained to you why it failed as a yin-yang concept. Please.

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LonelyStoner
03/21/24 9:25:00 PM
#77:


dave_is_slick posted...
You needed it explained to you why it failed as a yin-yang concept. Please.
Why exactly did it fail? The spirits had been entwined for thousands of years.

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BearlyWilling
03/21/24 9:29:43 PM
#78:


ROBANN_88 posted...
https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-11-2015/LqU_8Q.gif

Azula was in a league of her own and those are more like rockers anyway. Airbenders get true flight as Korra S3 showed us.

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pegusus123456
03/22/24 2:14:07 AM
#79:


LonelyStoner posted...
Why exactly did it fail? The spirits had been entwined for thousands of years.
I'm by no means an expert in yin-yang, but I think the biggest issue is that it isn't just a good half and an evil half. They're supposed to exist in balance, but the very nature of Vaatu and Raava means they never do that.

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Delirious_Beard
03/24/24 9:05:36 PM
#80:


also the praise that season 3 of korra gets has always been baffling to me. i even hear the completely absurd take that it's better than anything in ATLA. i guess omg edgy airbender really did enough lifting for them

season 4 imo is the only one that had something going for it, but sadly they fumbled it in the final act, likely due to behind the scenes stuff

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pegusus123456
03/25/24 2:43:45 AM
#81:


Delirious_Beard posted...
also the praise that season 3 of korra gets has always been baffling to me. i even hear the completely absurd take that it's better than anything in ATLA. i guess omg edgy airbender really did enough lifting for them
What did you dislike about it?

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dave_is_slick
03/25/24 2:52:35 AM
#82:


Delirious_Beard posted...
also the praise that season 3 of korra gets has always been baffling to me. i even hear the completely absurd take that it's better than anything in ATLA. i guess omg edgy airbender really did enough lifting for them
Please

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Azn_Psycho
03/25/24 3:03:46 AM
#83:


Having seasonal villains just didn't feel right. Like it was one situation after another. It would have really changed the story but I would have rather seen something like...

The Equalist movement being an overarching thing for all 4 seasons. Each event from the other arc strengthening their cause.

Vaatu would be moved up to the first season's villain. The waterbender civil war would be the catalyst for Korra to be sent to Republic City. Her lack of spiritual prowess and initial inabilty to airbend allows for Vaatu to take a foothold. Being strong enough to beat him makes a better explanation than "I can airbend now!"

Vaatu's defeat would open up for the Red Lotus. While the show had them build up for the Earth Empire, they should have been balance with each other. They would destablized the Earth Kingdom, allowing for the Earth Empire to rise at the same time with them. Earth's experimentation with spirit weapons would allow Zaheer to improve his spirituality to torment Korra, eventually capturing her to poison her.

The Earth Empire is primed to retake Republic City. But that's what the Equalists were gearing up for. It's basically a full out war between the Empire and Equalists while there is a weakened avatar that can't do much.

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LeCh0nk
03/25/24 8:14:09 AM
#84:


Azn_Psycho posted...
Having seasonal villains just didn't feel right. Like it was one situation after another. It would have really changed the story but I would have rather seen something like...

The Equalist movement being an overarching thing for all 4 seasons. Each event from the other arc strengthening their cause.

Vaatu would be moved up to the first season's villain. The waterbender civil war would be the catalyst for Korra to be sent to Republic City. Her lack of spiritual prowess and initial inabilty to airbend allows for Vaatu to take a foothold. Being strong enough to beat him makes a better explanation than "I can airbend now!"

Vaatu's defeat would open up for the Red Lotus. While the show had them build up for the Earth Empire, they should have been balance with each other. They would destablized the Earth Kingdom, allowing for the Earth Empire to rise at the same time with them. Earth's experimentation with spirit weapons would allow Zaheer to improve his spirituality to torment Korra, eventually capturing her to poison her.

The Earth Empire is primed to retake Republic City. But that's what the Equalists were gearing up for. It's basically a full out war between the Empire and Equalists while there is a weakened avatar that can't do much.
Unfortunately they didn't have that option since Nickolodeon never said how many season's they'd get, or even if it'd be renewed for every subsequent season. They pretty much had to make them self containing and wrap up the arcs in the season they were introduced.

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Delirious_Beard
03/25/24 6:01:33 PM
#85:


pegusus123456 posted...
What did you dislike about it?

i don't really like zaheer tbh. he and his crew have some dope fight scenes but they're way way less interesting than Amon and Kuvira as characters

i also really really dislike everything involving Suyin. Lin is one of the few characters i liked and this part of the story just absolutely shafts her character with some just insultingly stupid writing

and there's just more stuff i already don't like about the show. the main cast still isn't enjoyable to watch interact. Mako and Bolin still fucking suck, Asami is still a nothing character, korra still isn't particularly likable

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