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LSGW_Zephyra
03/22/24 10:32:44 AM
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DirkDiggles posted...
There should be a team of people that will be willing to squat (with the owners consent) on the squatters. Chase them out.

Probably won't work, squatters, if the law considers them legally squatting can just call the police and have them removed. I would like to remind most people that squatting is not as easy as these topics make it sound. Most don't end with the squatters getting to stay their mandatory 30 days

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streamofthesky
03/22/24 10:38:14 AM
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ClayGuida posted...
Can I get a real source, not someone posting American Flag emoji's? That comes across as right wing propaganda when it starts off like that. Also the fact they paid $8 for their blue checkmark.

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/woman-killed-in-nyc-by-squatters-stuffed-in-duffle-bag-sources-say/

"Unfortunately, there are so many horrible cases because you create serious confrontation because just imagine you enter your own home to find people there," Assemblyman Jake Blumencranz said.

Blumencranz sponsors a bill to weaken some of the so-called squatters rights in New York.
Currently, squatters may be legally considered tenants after 30 days in a unit.

"There is virtually no recourse for when someone is gaming the system here, so all this does is remove the loophole and remove those trying to use the system," Blumencranz said.

For those disputing the "30 day" law.
NY needs to enact his bill immediately! End this madness!

https://6abc.com/nyc-squatters-murder-womans-body-found-in-bag-suspect-pennsylvania/14555193/

The suspects stole her Lexus and fled across the George Washington Bridge through New Jersey to Pennsylvania, where they crashed in Lower Paxton Township, just outside Harrisburg.

Unfortunately, police in Pennsylvania did not run the license plate until the day after the crash, allowing the two to get away.

Bruh, WTF? Cops run license plates when they pull people over for speeding 10 mph over the limit, but these fuckers crash a stolen car and they don't bother till the next day?!

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Frostmourne
03/22/24 10:43:18 AM
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I hope they catch those f'ers. No reason for that to happen to her at all.

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Starks
03/22/24 10:46:33 AM
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Squatter rights defy common sense. There's a prima facie understanding that the squatter is trespassing, yet the law still treats adverse possession as possession. And possession is 9/10 of the law.

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ironman2009
03/22/24 10:57:04 AM
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Ayyy Lower Paxton Township on the map

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ClayGuida
03/22/24 10:58:37 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/woman-killed-in-nyc-by-squatters-stuffed-in-duffle-bag-sources-say/

For those disputing the "30 day" law.
NY needs to enact his bill immediately! End this madness!

https://6abc.com/nyc-squatters-murder-womans-body-found-in-bag-suspect-pennsylvania/14555193/

Bruh, WTF? Cops run license plates when they pull people over for speeding 10 mph over the limit, but these fuckers crash a stolen car and they don't bother till the next day?!
That'd be a knee jersey response right? Aren't we supposed to avoid those?

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LSGW_Zephyra
03/22/24 11:24:14 AM
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Starks posted...
Squatter rights defy common sense. There's a prima facie understanding that the squatter is trespassing, yet the law still treats adverse possession as possession. And possession is 9/10 of the law.

Again, it's to prevent much worse systemic abuse from landlords and allowing to make sure property is being used and can't be held indefinitely

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NeonOPPAl
03/22/24 11:29:13 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
something seems to have happened to it
*checks the account status*

Not surprised >_>

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streamofthesky
03/22/24 11:20:15 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28FBEqG5FbA

The good news: They've been caught

The bad news: They didn't get far enough away to reach a state w/ a DA that would refuse to extradite them to NY, so they'll probably be back on the street by this weekend. Pretty much guaranteed if it's Alvin Bragg's district.
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Paragon21XX
03/22/24 11:23:59 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
False, 95% of squatters are people the were are some point given permission to live there, but that permission has been retracted.

The story in the OP is a case of murder, not a squatter's rights issue.
False. Squatters by definition never received permission to reside on the property.

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Bugmeat
03/22/24 11:24:48 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
There should be a team of people that will be willing to squat (with the owners consent) on the squatters. Chase them out.

There is a guy who does exactly that.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/squatter-hunter-price-california-man-102300149.html


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Agent_Stroud
03/22/24 11:26:58 PM
#62:


streamofthesky posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28FBEqG5FbA

The good news: They've been caught

The bad news: They didn't get far enough away to reach a state w/ a DA that would refuse to extradite them to NY, so they'll probably be back on the street by this weekend. Pretty much guaranteed if it's Alvin Bragg's district.

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2Pacavelli
03/22/24 11:27:45 PM
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Smfh that's dispicable
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SF_Okami
03/22/24 11:28:07 PM
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In case anyone was unaware, Adverse Possession is a real thing. If you live in an abandoned property for a determinant amount of time, then you now have title to the property (there are other elements to that of course but thats the gist of it).

This exists to stop landlords from leaving property abandoned and in disrepair which would hurt property values. If the property is truly abandoned, then the squatter can take ownership over it after a period of time set out by the state government.

That being said, the average is 10 years of continuous use. 30 days is nonsensical and a ridiculous NYC law.

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StarSpangled
03/25/24 11:15:34 AM
#65:


streamofthesky posted...
The bad news: They didn't get far enough away to reach a state w/ a DA that would refuse to extradite them to NY, so they'll probably be back on the street by this weekend. Pretty much guaranteed if it's Alvin Bragg's district.

Why? What protects them from homicide charges?

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SauI_Goodman
03/25/24 11:17:06 AM
#66:


Fuck squatters. Get your shit together.

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DementedDurian
03/25/24 11:20:33 AM
#67:


Dakimakura posted...
Squatters are the new pitbulls.

Did you really need to post a "joke" like this?

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pretzelcoatl
03/25/24 12:17:16 PM
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You should be allowed to remove squatters by any force necessary, how is this even a problem
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streamofthesky
03/25/24 12:18:22 PM
#69:


StarSpangled posted...
Why? What protects them from homicide charges?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/as-suspects-in-long-island-body-parts-case-remain-free-critics-urge-bail-reform-laws-change/5208535/

NY has absolutely fucking crazy "bail reform" laws where the list of "nonviolent" offenses is absolutely mind-boggling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XE2-GxUzzQ&t=0s

On top of that, Alvin Bragg has consistently declined to charge people to the full extent they should be and released violent felons. It reached the point that the based DA in Arizona refused to extradite a criminal back to him, b/c they figured he'd release the guy yet again.

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/soho-hotel-homicide-suspect-extradition/
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pretzelcoatl
03/25/24 12:21:09 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/as-suspects-in-long-island-body-parts-case-remain-free-critics-urge-bail-reform-laws-change/5208535/

NY has absolutely fucking crazy "bail reform" laws where the list of "nonviolent" offenses is absolutely mind-boggling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XE2-GxUzzQ&t=0s

On top of that, Alvin Bragg has consistently declined to charge people to the full extent they should be and released violent felons. It reached the point that the based DA in Arizona refused to extradite a criminal back to him, b/c they figured he'd release the guy yet again.

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/soho-hotel-homicide-suspect-extradition/
We have something similar happening in my state, and people basically don't go to jail unless they kill someone.

Legislation is being drafted to remove mandatory minimums for gun possession (which already often don't get prosecuted), it's insane.
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streamofthesky
03/25/24 12:26:32 PM
#71:


pretzelcoatl posted...
We have something similar happening in my state, and people basically don't go to jail unless they kill someone.

Legislation is being drafted to remove mandatory minimums for gun possession (which already often don't get prosecuted), it's insane.

The Young Turks getting upset about how insane NY's laws are now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=236Exj7Hc4M

I legit don't get where the fuck this all came from. I thought bail reform was about like marijuana possession, not shit like dismembering a corpse.
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Null_Gain
03/25/24 12:44:00 PM
#72:


streamofthesky posted...


On top of that, Alvin Bragg has consistently declined to charge people to the full extent they should be and released violent felons. It reached the point that the based DA in Arizona refused to extradite a criminal back to him, b/c they figured he'd release the guy yet again.

It's safe to say that Alvin Bragg sucks at his job in general.


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Nok_Su_Kow
03/25/24 12:47:08 PM
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Squatter rights need to be null and voided.
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thronedfire2
03/25/24 1:02:39 PM
#74:


DarkChozoGhost posted...
False, 95% of squatters are people the were are some point given permission to live there, but that permission has been retracted.

The story in the OP is a case of murder, not a squatter's rights issue.

if someone is given permission to live somewhere they're a tenant, not a squatter. even if there was never a lease and they didn't pay rent, you still have to evict them.

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pretzelcoatl
03/25/24 10:39:58 PM
#75:


streamofthesky posted...
The Young Turks getting upset about how insane NY's laws are now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=236Exj7Hc4M

I legit don't get where the fuck this all came from. I thought bail reform was about like marijuana possession, not shit like dismembering a corpse.
I don't live in NY, I live in the Midwest. This is happening in a ton of major metros.
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YoshiMitsurugi
03/25/24 10:45:02 PM
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I'm blasting a squatter on sight for trespassing.

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CountCorvinus
03/25/24 11:03:55 PM
#77:


Guide posted...
Everything about this seems like squatter ragebait. Like, yes, it's bad and they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, but, even without doing a quick bit of searching, I'm certain he's misinterpreting some law and that they will not get away with murder.

One look at his X feed tells me everything I need to know about this guy.

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StarSpangled
03/26/24 9:06:32 PM
#78:


streamofthesky posted...
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/as-suspects-in-long-island-body-parts-case-remain-free-critics-urge-bail-reform-laws-change/5208535/

NY has absolutely fucking crazy "bail reform" laws where the list of "nonviolent" offenses is absolutely mind-boggling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XE2-GxUzzQ&t=0s

On top of that, Alvin Bragg has consistently declined to charge people to the full extent they should be and released violent felons. It reached the point that the based DA in Arizona refused to extradite a criminal back to him, b/c they figured he'd release the guy yet again.

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/soho-hotel-homicide-suspect-extradition/

Murder is surely a violent crime though. I really can't see how they'd put murderers back on the streets unlike they have some kind of extreme stand your ground laws which I'm not aware of. That's seriously uncivilized and lawless.

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tripleh213
03/26/24 9:08:28 PM
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ShotOJameson
03/26/24 9:13:10 PM
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Squatters rights shouldn't be a thing...were these laws made in the 1800s or something?

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xGhostchantx
03/26/24 9:38:44 PM
#81:


Zikten posted...
By definition, a squatter is a trespasser.

Literally not true.

If a house or building has been uninhabited for an extended period of time (including no active ongoing works on the property), if a squatter occupies it for a certain period of time they have a legal right to claim it as their own as an abandoned property, just like if you discard rubbish or anything else (that isn't accidental) and I pick it up I now own it because you abandoned its ownership. That doesn't apply to your trash though, just shit that you dump

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Bigpapaplut
03/28/24 4:06:16 PM
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Human filth being human filth. Will never change

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Paragon21XX
03/29/24 12:04:14 AM
#84:


xGhostchantx posted...
Literally not true.

If a house or building has been uninhabited for an extended period of time (including no active ongoing works on the property), if a squatter occupies it for a certain period of time they have a legal right to claim it as their own as an abandoned property, just like if you discard rubbish or anything else (that isn't accidental) and I pick it up I now own it because you abandoned its ownership. That doesn't apply to your trash though, just shit that you dump
Missing context: adverse possession typically requires living on the property 7-20 years before ownership is officially transferred to the squatter.

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streamofthesky
03/29/24 2:48:02 AM
#85:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PnDjsE-0G4

So, this wouldn't even be an issue if we had proper property record systems like other western countries. But extremists on the far right and far left block it from happening.
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CobraGT
03/29/24 6:48:13 AM
#86:


Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
So what's the origin or idea behind the "squatters rights"? What is it intended to protect, because I can't imagine it's intent was to protect those who broke into empty homes and just live there with no one knowing they're there

1. The law is there for widowed daughter/sister-in-laws with children who were living with family.

2. The law is there for loyal caretakers in situations where greedy heirs interpret verbal instructions.

3. You could get rid of squatters if affordable housing was an option because you would have a spot to put them.

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Makeveli_lives
04/01/24 9:09:01 AM
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https://youtu.be/K4dwx3tYjMA?si=dt-wNDVEnmVKNvjR

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2Pacavelli
04/02/24 6:13:44 PM
#89:


Disgusting
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ironman2009
04/02/24 6:14:29 PM
#90:


Whyd you bump your own topic?

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Makeveli_lives
04/02/24 6:25:21 PM
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ironman2009 posted...
Whyd you bump your own topic?
Im not him fam

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ironman2009
04/02/24 6:50:49 PM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
Im not him fam

come on buddy, who you trying to fool

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Vicious_Dios
04/03/24 7:09:27 AM
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Zikten posted...
Maybe this will lead to a reevaluating of squatter rights.

We're waaay past the maybes.

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Cheetaluv
04/03/24 7:13:54 AM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
Im not him fam

Idk the 2pac avatar from both accounts does draw a red flag.

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