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04/02/24 2:01:52 PM
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TheHoldSteady
04/02/24 4:42:10 PM
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Walt's the main character and antagonist, and the narrative is of his villain origin story and all the destruction he causes. But Hank's the only one actively trying to stop him. If Hank was the main character, he'd be the protagonist and it'd be a straightforward crime drama of his investigation of this mysterious, revered drug lord peddling blue meth

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Baron_Ox
04/02/24 4:43:23 PM
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TheHoldSteady posted...
If Hank was the main character, he'd be the protagonist
...but he's not, though, so I don't get the topic title.

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DrizztLink
04/02/24 4:43:45 PM
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No, because protagonist and antagonist have to do with plot structure, not morality. Protag/"the good guy" aren't synonyms.

Walt's the protagonist because he moves the plot forward, Hank is antagonistic in that he tries to stop it.

Morally, though, yeah.

Hank's a bit of a piece of shit/corrupt cop but he didn't poison a kid.

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LoveLikeJazz
04/02/24 4:44:08 PM
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What about the characters who are antagonists to Walt? Those are the real bad guys. Walt is just trying to earn money for his family, that makes him a good guy.

Man it has been so long since I watched that show. It had some really good moments. I'm actually almost through season 1 of The Sopranos, first time watching. It's pretty good, although the late 90s fashion is SO cringe lmao

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Jupiter
04/02/24 4:44:16 PM
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TheHoldSteady posted...
Walt's the main character and antagonist
Isn't this contradictory?

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Doe
04/02/24 4:44:27 PM
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Walt is the lead point of view in Breaking Bad so he is the protagonist. He is a "villain protagonist".

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uwnim
04/02/24 4:45:50 PM
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Jupiter posted...
Isn't this contradictory?
Yes.

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LoveLikeJazz
04/02/24 4:46:14 PM
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Doe posted...
Walt is the lead point of view in Breaking Bad so he is the protagonist. He is a "villain protagonist".
Ah so I guess the proper meaning of protagonist isn't necessarily "good guy of the story" but rather "main guy of the story".

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Jeremy517
04/02/24 4:46:54 PM
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LoveLikeJazz posted...
Walt is just trying to earn money for his family, that makes him a good guy.


If that was the case, Walt would have been willing to sell the methlymine for $5 million each when everyone else wanted to.
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DrizztLink
04/02/24 4:47:20 PM
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LoveLikeJazz posted...
Ah so I guess the proper meaning of protagonist isn't necessarily "good guy of the story" but rather "main guy of the story".
Yes.

Travis Bickle is the protagonist and main character of Taxi Driver but he is absolutely not the good guy.

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ssb_yunglink2
04/02/24 4:49:57 PM
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Yeah protagonist is just the main character of a story. The good guy of the story can absolutely be an antagonist if the main character is a villain.

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KI_Simpson
04/02/24 4:56:33 PM
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That's some clean burning meth, I tell you hwhat.

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Jerry_Hellyeah
04/02/24 4:57:14 PM
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Nah, Im the protagonist

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ChocoboMogALT
04/02/24 5:22:59 PM
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The protagonist moves the plot forward.
The main character is the perspective of the audience.

A classic example of the difference is The Great Gatsby. Gatsby is the protagonist, the narrator is the main character.

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Garioshi
04/02/24 6:13:23 PM
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LoveLikeJazz posted...
Walt is just trying to earn money for his family, that makes him a good guy.
Walt did about 5 billion things that weren't about earning money for his family, and he had plenty of outs that didn't dig him deeper.

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ItsNotA2Mer
04/02/24 6:15:09 PM
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Protagonist just means the most prominent character.

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Necronmon
04/02/24 6:16:50 PM
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Walt is just trying to earn money for his family, that makes him a good guy.

He outright said in the last episode that all that really mattered was being good at something and he would not let anything take that from him, and that there was nothing he would not burn down to keep " feeling like a REAL man."
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mario2000
04/02/24 6:19:41 PM
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nah we all know Finger is the real protagonist

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Pikachuchupika
04/02/24 6:20:39 PM
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Walt is the protagonist. Everyone else are the antagonists, including Walt Jr. Jesse is also a protagonist.
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Rika_Furude
04/02/24 6:23:01 PM
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Walt is the protagonist and main villain

Hank is an antagonist and main hero (for lack of a better word, hes not perfect)
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Choco
04/02/24 6:24:24 PM
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Baron_Ox posted...
...but he's not, though, so I don't get the topic title.
lmaooo

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DrizztLink
04/02/24 6:24:57 PM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
Jesse is also a protagonist.
I think he'd be a deuteragonist.

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mystic_belmont
04/02/24 6:40:37 PM
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LoveLikeJazz posted...
Walt is just trying to earn money for his family, that makes him a good guy.

This is 100% incorrect. Walt even admits it's all about him.

If he was trying to help his family, he would have accepted help from his friends back in season 1.

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LoveLikeJazz
04/02/24 9:24:30 PM
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Lol

Alright ya'll it has been a long time since I watched the show. Sorry I had it wrong.

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Rika_Furude
04/02/24 9:34:58 PM
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Thats such a big plot point I dont know how you could forget that unless you also forgot the entire plot itself
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Aloc
04/02/24 9:39:58 PM
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LoveLikeJazz posted...
Lol

Alright ya'll it has been a long time since I watched the show. Sorry I had it wrong.
You weren't actually paying attention at all

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LoveLikeJazz
04/02/24 9:43:24 PM
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Aloc posted...
You weren't actually paying attention at all
I paid attention 10 years ago when I watched the show. I came in here just trying to make discussion and already admitted my memory failed me. Why continue to put me down for it as if it matters at all? Ya'll just live to correct others lol

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Choco
04/03/24 5:18:35 AM
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how does one watch a show and then misremember the main character's entire being

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04/03/24 9:03:27 AM
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Jerry_Hellyeah
04/03/24 10:24:22 AM
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Yeah no, he didn't watch it

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LoveLikeJazz
04/03/24 11:17:30 AM
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Lol.

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Turducken
04/03/24 11:18:12 AM
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I mean, even if that WAS Walt's reasoning it wouldn't make him a good guy. He becomes a drug kingpin and is either directly responsible for or complicit in dozens of killings, some of completely innocent people. You can't just handwave whatever atrocities you commit under the 'I did it for MY FAMILY!' clause.

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mario2000
04/04/24 12:54:11 AM
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This is why I won't knock zoomers for lacking media literacy because it's obvious nobody has media literacy anymore.

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Punished_Blinx
04/04/24 1:05:05 AM
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LoveLikeJazz posted...
I paid attention 10 years ago when I watched the show. I came in here just trying to make discussion and already admitted my memory failed me. Why continue to put me down for it as if it matters at all? Ya'll just live to correct others lol

It's true but to be fair there are people who legit think Walt was a good guy even though the show specifically spells out that he isn't.

This isn't a dig at you specifically. It ends up happening to all of these crime dramas.

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Choco
04/04/24 1:37:37 AM
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mario2000 posted...
This is why I won't knock zoomers for lacking media literacy because it's obvious nobody has media literacy anymore.
anymore?

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Punished_Blinx
04/04/24 1:40:46 AM
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Choco posted...
anymore?

Yeah the same shit happened to The Godfather, Goodfellas and Scarface. There's always the guys who just ignore how this story ends and what happens to the people around them because the fantasy of gaining power is so appealing.

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dancing_cactuar
04/04/24 1:47:54 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Yeah the same shit happened to The Godfather, Goodfellas and Scarface. There's always the guys who just ignore how this story ends and what happens to the people around them because the fantasy of gaining power is so appealing.
People lost all media literacy YEARS ago, never forget how there were and still are people in our reality that will tell you with a straight face that Light did nothing wrong.

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Punished_Blinx
04/04/24 1:54:08 AM
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dancing_cactuar posted...
People lost all media literacy YEARS ago, never forget how there were and still are people in our reality that will tell you with a straight face that Light did nothing wrong.

Did they ever have it

Why is Romeo and Juliet regarded as the ultimate love story

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TheHoldSteady
04/04/24 9:10:14 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
I think he'd be a deuteragonist.

Marie is the deuteragonist.

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DrizztLink
04/05/24 1:13:50 PM
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TheHoldSteady posted...
Marie is the deuteragonist.
Marie is the pooperagonist, because she is awful.

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Jupiter
04/05/24 5:21:17 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Marie is the pooperagonist, because she is awful.
She was definitely bad the first season, but I feel like she got much better as time went on.

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