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in a couple weeks im flying out to my partner's new place. im extremely stressed about it cuz its a place of significantly higher means than i have ever really...stepped foot in at all. rich-ass neighborhood, rich-ass building, with him and his rich-ass roommate

ive been venting a lot about it here, and in therapy. but if anything the stress is just building, even when i try mindful meditating. i do genuinely think cigs would help, a lot. but i also know that id be a liar if i went back to them so soon. my 6 month quittaversary is the day of the trip

i know i keep blogfaqsing this but its occupying a lot of my mind, sorry

Sure, everything is a reason to relapse when you want it to

You don't start your addiction over, you only pick up where you left off.

As a smoker I've noticed people of higher means that don't smoke are the most judgemental of smokers so I would advise against it lol buy a vape and hit that shit in the restroom if you really need a fix. Or get nicotine patches/gum.

Tyranthraxus posted...

You don't start your addiction over, you only pick up where you left off.

im aware. this isnt a neg to me. i genuinely love cigs and quit em by accident. id just feel bad about the lying thing

Smashingpmkns posted...

As a smoker I've noticed people of higher means that don't smoke are the most judgemental of smokers so I would advise against it lol buy a vape and hit that shit in the restroom if you really need a fix. Or get nicotine patches/gum.

its not the nicotine specifically, i hate vaping. i just love cigs, all of the things about em

great point on the richlies tho

Smoking doesn't fix any of that. You're doing so well, there's no "good" reason to relapse.

I think smoking would just cause you to spiral in the state that you're in. It's the sort of thing that sounds good before you do it, but it would only leave you with regret after the fact, but your strong desire to (hopefully) feel better in that moment makes you less able to see it.

ItsNotA2Mer posted...

Smoking doesn't fix any of that. You're doing so well, there's no "good" reason to relapse.

even tho the circumstances of my quitting are atypical?

PerseusRad posted...

I think smoking would just cause you to spiral in the state that you're in. It's the sort of thing that sounds good before you do it, but it would only leave you with regret after the fact, but your strong desire to (hopefully) feel better in that moment makes you less able to see it.

i spose. i didnt quit to be healthier or to better myself or anything. not specifically at least

Just jerk off more frequently.

Kai_Laguna posted...

Just jerk off more frequently.

i do 3-5 times a day as it is, seems unrelated

R1masher posted...

Sure, everything is a reason to relapse when you want it to

This

There will always be a justification that makes sense in your head to go back to something you're addicted to, and it's never not cope

do you really want to deal with quitting again? you're well beyond the hardest part, don't make yourself suffer through it again.

Dungeater posted...

i just love cigs, all of the things about em

try smoking something else? nicotine free vape, smoke cbd or cloves?

Dungeater posted...

i didnt quit to be healthier or to better myself or anything.

then why did you quit?

well, its not cope, because cig addiction doesnt work like that for me. it's a binary "it is or it isnt" thing to me. im using good in lieu of "reasonable", cuz i do think there are reasonable excuses to go back to cigs since i didnt wanna quit in the first place

Giant_Aspirin posted...

do you really want to deal with quitting again?

shrug

im lucky enough that it was easy

Giant_Aspirin posted...

then why did you quit?

one day while with my partner i was asking for their advice on something i was doing

"hey X can i get some advice?"

"yeah quit smoking HYUCK HYUCK"

"ok"

and so i did

It sounds like you can't handle whatever complicated feelings this relationship is giving you. I would suggest ending the relationship before going back to incredibly unhealthy behavior.

MC_BatCommander posted...

It sounds like you can't handle whatever complicated feelings this relationship is giving you. I would suggest ending the relationship before going back to incredibly unhealthy behavior.

i am not ending a loving, year and a half relationship over this lol

reddit take

Dungeater posted...

one day while with my partner i was asking for their advice on something i was doing

"hey X can i get some advice?"

"yeah quit smoking HYUCK HYUCK"

"ok"

and so i did

ive been an addict of various forms for basically my entire life. and in all of my experience with quitting things, it only ever sticks when i quit for myself / i really wanted to. whenever i quit for someone else / because someone else wanted me to, it never stuck. it sounds like that's where you are.

idk, i'd recommend a vape if you absolutely feel that you need a nicotine buzz. juul gives hits pretty close to a cigarette, but it's easy to get a burning tasting hit which is nasty.

Vuse and Njoy are other decent brands but they don't have the "kick" that a cigarette hit will give you (if that's what you're after). I'm using a Vuse 1.8% cus I found that it's the closest to the feeling a cigarette gives overall

the 5% vapes like Breeze and Mr Vapor are disgusting and the flavors taste like cheap perfume.

Also going to second smoking CBD or dried passionflower if you absolutely NEED to smoke. just be aware that the "CBD cigs" or "CBD buds" you can buy smell exactly like weed smoke, in case you don't wanna smell like weed. that said, CBD cigs are prob my favorite thing to smoke, mostly cus it feels like smoking weed without the high (which I don't like)

edit - also there are nicotine infused toothpicks that work pretty well, you can buy them at any smoke shop. I used those before I got a vape since I'm not allowed to chew on toothpicks at my job

Please try not to smoke or vape

Having to see my father spiral down in health and lose all of his teeth, lose his ability to speak and have to permanently breathe from a stoma in his throat with an oxygen machine 24/7 is more than enough for me to tell anyone I know to stop smoking

I know its hard, but sometimes people said it's just the habit of having something on their mouth that actually calms them down so one of my friends actually got some type of metal toothpick-like thing that he likes to call his mouth fidget spinner and it works for him

Dungeater posted...

even tho the circumstances of my quitting are atypical?

The reason why you quit isn't the point. You've brought this up several times in the past, but that's just your built in excuse for if you decide to pick it up again. You're doing something great for your health, (and the health of those around you).
The fact that you believe that smoking will make stressful situations better, is the exact reason you need to stay away from it. You've gone this long, those urges will pass. You can do this.

Giant_Aspirin posted...

ive been an addict of various forms for basically my entire life. and in all of my experience with quitting things, it only ever sticks when i quit for myself / i really wanted to. whenever i quit for someone else / because someone else wanted me to, it never stuck. it sounds like that's where you are.

eh, its just different for me. ive been addicted to opiates and alcohol as well. alcohol was the worst one by a lot

i count this as "quitting for me" since my primary driver is i said id do it

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huh. worth a try. i dont like smoking weed but i could look into this

bnui_ransder posted...

Please try not to smoke or vape

Having to see my father spiral down in health and lose all of his teeth, lose his ability to speak and have to permanently breathe from a stoma in his throat with an oxygen machine 24/7 is more than enough for me to tell anyone I know to stop smoking

I know its hard, but sometimes people said it's just the habit of having something on their mouth that actually calms them down so one of my friends actually got some type of metal toothpick-like thing that he likes to call his mouth fidget spinner and it works for him

ive seen my grandparents in that state, it does nothing to me. i loved them and didnt want them to be sick, but its their life, not mine

i feel that way about me too. i dont like the emotional blackmail "but what about everyone but you" angle for not smoking

its not an oral fixation for me, its the whole package

ItsNotA2Mer posted...

You've brought this up several times in the past, but that's just your built in excuse for if you decide to pick it up again.

nah, i wont need an excuse. if i become a liar i become a liar. simple as

It will make you cool again

im already cool, but itd deff make me cooler yea

Not trying to emotionally blackmail if that comes across that way, just wouldn't want that to happen to anyone

At the end of the day, it's your choice and there are tons of people that smoke in moderation that are fine

That's the nicotine addiction talking to you. Soldier through it, it's not worth it to relapse.

Dungeater posted...

i just love cigs, all of the things about em

You love inhaling tar, arsenic, and increasing your chance of getting lung cancer by 100%?....

None of what you said makes any sense.

KingInBlack posted...

You love inhaling tar, arsenic

yes

KingInBlack posted...

increasing your chance of getting lung cancer by 100%?....

thats just a consequence. i accept it

How much does a pack cost these days anyway?

Would you smoke a pack a day?

CSCA33 posted...

How much does a pack cost these days anyway?

Would you smoke a pack a day?

when i quit it was $16usd every day cuz i was a pack a day smoker

That's almost $500 a month, maybe it could help to think about other things you want that money for?

at least get a TarGard if you're gonna go back to smoking.

R1masher posted...

Sure, everything is a reason to relapse when you want it to

This. There's a million reasons to do so if you want. But there's only one reason not to.

Arent you the person that was living in a roach infested room? Shit, just be happy for yourself that you wont have to deal with that nasty shit.

Seaman_Prime posted...

Arent you the person that was living in a roach infested room? Shit, just be happy for yourself that you wont have to deal with that nasty shit.

roach infested house, yes. i found two in my room at two points i think. treated the house myself after. finally got the family to accept that we needed an exterminator, havent seen roaches in ages

what does this have to do with smoking?

Dungeater posted...

roach infested house, yes. i found two in my room at two points i think. treated the house myself after. finally got the family to accept that we needed an exterminator, havent seen roaches in ages

what does this have to do with smoking?

Look on the brightside and dont lapse into smoking over stress.

Dungeater posted...

well, its not cope, because cig addiction doesnt work like that for me

That is fundamentally what addiction does to the thought process regarding the thing you're addicted to

Any reason to relapse becomes logically justified. There's no inherent reason to it

call it a difference of philosophy then. if someone went back to smokes because they couldnt manage the stress of their life without em, i consider that justified. im not about to tell them no, not with how shit their life is

Yeah thats a great reason to give yourself lung cancer.

It is not.

If you really must do so, try grabbing some nicotine-free herbal cigs. (To be clear, I'm talking about the legal, non-psychoactive ones intended for use as a substitute; I'm not talking about weed here.) Not sure if they'll do the trick, but they're far lower risk of bringing back the addiction so may as well try them first.

Ultimately it's your free will choice whether you decide to go back to smoking or not, but as someone who has smoked 2 packs a day for a long time (now cut back to 1) and has several failed attempts at quitting under his belt, I would say don't do it. You've come this far, you got this.

Dungeater posted...

call it a difference of philosophy then. if someone went back to smokes because they couldnt manage the stress of their life without em, i consider that justified. im not about to tell them no, not with how shit their life is

I am not really speaking from experience here but I think cancer makes every stressful part of your life even worse.

i can imagine