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Justin2Krelian
04/11/24 7:56:12 PM
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It also occurred to me that Carter is the only Democrat to lose re-election in over 100 years, so there's that too.

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ParanoidObsessive
04/11/24 8:07:14 PM
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No, but I'm willing to say he's the most Millard Fillmore-ish President since Millard Fillmore.

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Justin2Krelian
04/11/24 10:45:55 PM
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A lot of No votes anyone specific?

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hungrymike
04/11/24 11:25:16 PM
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Justin2Krelian posted...
A lot of No votes anyone specific?
Trump.
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BlackScythe0
04/11/24 11:29:06 PM
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hungrymike posted...
Trump.

I don't think there is that many traitors on this board.
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hungrymike
04/12/24 12:48:22 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
I don't think there is that many traitors on this board.
He's not perfect, and one could levy some valid criticism against him, but a traitor he is not.
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GGuirao13
04/12/24 12:49:06 AM
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As far as I know, yes.

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SmokeMassTree
04/12/24 12:52:59 AM
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hungrymike posted...
Trump.



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ConfusedTorchic
04/12/24 12:54:44 AM
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it is pretty strange that the supposed party of law and order are putting all their cards into a person facing like 100 felony charges

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Entity13
04/12/24 12:56:03 AM
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hungrymike posted...
He's not perfect, and one could levy some valid criticism against him, but a traitor he is not.

I'm going to have to ask you to step away from the kool-aid fountain and look at the facts before joining a discussion. Trump is a known conman (since the 1970s) with known ties to Russia.

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SmokeMassTree
04/12/24 12:56:40 AM
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
it is pretty strange that the supposed party of law and order are putting all their cards into a person facing like 100 felony charges

its right on brand for the redacted party to still support sleepy joe after the diary was proven real.

sick stuff

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ConfusedTorchic
04/12/24 12:58:22 AM
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just like the laptop was proven real like 40 different times?

sure

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SmokeMassTree
04/12/24 12:58:46 AM
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Yeah, exactly the same

good point

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Entity13
04/12/24 1:01:12 AM
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SmokeMassTree posted...
its right on brand for the redacted party to still support sleepy joe after the diary was proven real.

sick stuff

The first I've heard of such a thing. So I took the liberty to ask a couple search engines wtf you're talking about. Turns out...

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ashley-biden-leaked-diary-accusation/

...it's unproven. Unless you have some concrete evidence tucked away somewhere Snopes doesn't know about; something legitimate that would hold to scrutiny unlike the "evidence" the GOP had against Joe Biden for another matter recently?

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ConfusedTorchic
04/12/24 1:03:56 AM
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you forgot entity, snopes is woke liberal propaganda made to cover up lies to deceive you from the truth

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Entity13
04/12/24 1:06:22 AM
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
you forgot entity, snopes is woke liberal propaganda made to cover up lies to deceive you from the truth

Whoops, here I thought it was just an imperfect site meant to challenge half-truths and anti-truths spread around the Internet, or that it's ever gone after liberal politicians and media alike. Silly me.

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SmokeMassTree
04/12/24 1:25:03 AM
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
you forgot entity, snopes is woke liberal propaganda made to cover up lies to deceive you from the truth

youre on fire today bro

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ConfusedTorchic
04/12/24 3:25:18 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d2e9a743.png

see you for your next couple posts in a few months

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Entity13
04/12/24 4:10:42 AM
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Huh. That last post didn't seem like it broke anything except a few (hundred) brain cells. And I don't think the other ones were even half as bad as the lies a certain someone else I won't mention likes to peddle around here (but never gets modded for when I mark them). C'est la vie.

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NightMareBunny
04/12/24 4:58:42 AM
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hungrymike posted...
He's not perfect, and one could levy some valid criticism against him, but a traitor he is not.
he tried to overthrow the government because he lost the Election

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adjl
04/12/24 9:48:46 AM
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I'm getting the sense that SMT's prison sentence might not have been long enough. It doesn't seem to have taught him anything. Granted, that's probably less a matter of sentence length and more one of the fact that prison doesn't really try to fix... whatever's wrong with him.

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hungrymike
04/12/24 9:56:15 AM
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NightMareBunny posted...
he tried to overthrow the government because he lost the Election
You're believing fake news. He encouraged a peaceful protest if that's what you mean.
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adjl
04/12/24 10:23:33 AM
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Do yourself a favour and look up the term "stochastic terrorism."

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BlackScythe0
04/12/24 11:05:45 AM
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hungrymike posted...
You're believing fake news. He encouraged a peaceful protest if that's what you mean.

Objectively false. If that is all he did he wouldn't be facing criminal charges. Why are you lying?

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JVillJags
04/12/24 11:56:41 AM
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This is a good question. I would like to say yes, but I'm not 100% certain though.

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darkknight109
04/12/24 12:33:00 PM
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hungrymike posted...
He's not perfect, and one could levy some valid criticism against him, but a traitor he is not.
I would say inciting a violent insurrection against the government and refusing to participate in the peaceful transfer of power between administrations, all because he couldn't stomach the fact that he lost the election, makes the label of "traitor" perfectly apt.

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Muscles
04/12/24 12:53:03 PM
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No, he fucking sucks, we haven't had a good president in decades though so it's hard to really stand out among all the garbage

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reason
04/12/24 2:08:39 PM
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This is one entertaining thread.

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ConfusedTorchic
04/12/24 2:23:05 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
I would say inciting a violent insurrection against the government and refusing to participate in the peaceful transfer of power between administrations, all because he couldn't stomach the fact that he lost the election, makes the label of "traitor" perfectly apt.

and we're just now finding out exactly why he was so desperate to keep it

because it gave him immunity to all the illegal shit that has now been found out he's done, that honestly probably wouldn't have been found out if he just shut the fuck up and went away.

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Zareth
04/12/24 2:47:32 PM
#30:


ConfusedTorchic posted...
it is pretty strange that the supposed party of law and order are putting all their cards into a person facing like 100 felony charges
"because all those charges are false, Crooked Joe Biden is abusing his power to win to the election!"

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adjl
04/12/24 3:48:43 PM
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Zareth posted...
"because all those charges are false, Crooked Joe Biden is abusing his power to win to the election!"

Mr. Mike has previously acknowledged that Trump was guilty of the charges in question, but insisted that the fraud he committed didn't actually deserve to be punished because he paid back the loans he obtained fraudulently. This seems to be a common thread among Trump's fanbase (including the entire GOP, in the case of his impeachments): Not denying that he's broken the law, but not wanting him to face consequences for doing so because reasons.

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CyborgSage00x0
04/13/24 12:34:30 AM
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Muscles posted...
No, he fucking sucks, we haven't had a good president in decades though so it's hard to really stand out among all the garbage
Try not to cut yourself on all that edge.

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Revelation34
04/13/24 5:43:37 AM
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adjl posted...


Mr. Mike has previously acknowledged that Trump was guilty of the charges in question, but insisted that the fraud he committed didn't actually deserve to be punished because he paid back the loans he obtained fraudulently. This seems to be a common thread among Trump's fanbase (including the entire GOP, in the case of his impeachments): Not denying that he's broken the law, but not wanting him to face consequences for doing so because reasons.


Would it be better if he didn't pay back the loans?

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

Try not to cut yourself on all that edge.


How is that edgy? LMAO

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adjl
04/13/24 10:33:13 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
Would it be better if he didn't pay back the loans?

His rationale is that because the loans were paid back, no harm was done and therefore Trump shouldn't be punished. Obviously, if the loans weren't paid back there'd be no question of his liability for whatever damages were incurred, but in this case it's less a matter of punishing him for causing damage and more a matter of punishing him simply for breaking the rules (rules which need to exist).

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BlackScythe0
04/13/24 11:53:12 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
Would it be better if he didn't pay back the loans?

You are defending someone who was literally arguing to me that it was the banks fault they accepted his fraudulent assessments because they didn't send anyone to verify the information.

Why is it you guys are so eager to defend this one persons criminal actions while condemning everyone else?
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AntonSaidWhat
04/13/24 12:13:31 PM
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People are actually saying Trump Holy f, are you serious?
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easyeman
04/13/24 5:20:27 PM
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Entity13 posted...
I'm going to have to ask you to step away from the kool-aid fountain and look at the facts before joining a discussion. Trump is a known conman (since the 1970s) with known ties to Russia.
one of the most ignorant things I've read on here, and that's saying something

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easyeman
04/13/24 5:22:06 PM
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Justin2Krelian posted...
It also occurred to me that Carter is the only Democrat to lose re-election in over 100 years, so there's that too.

considering Biden is one of the worst Presidents we've had...yeah that's an easy no lol

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Metalsonic66
04/13/24 5:35:08 PM
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Oh hi Zues

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Shrek
04/13/24 5:43:23 PM
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easyeman posted...
one of the most ignorant things I've read on here, and that's saying something

go on, tell us how it's ignorant

explain how trump isn't a conman with ties to russia

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ConfusedTorchic
04/13/24 5:46:23 PM
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the guy selling $300 gold colored shoes out of an abandoned strip mall that people have yet to receive sure isn't a conman

lmao

how's that trump stock doing again?

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BlackScythe0
04/13/24 10:45:50 PM
#42:


easyeman posted...
considering Biden is one of the worst Presidents we've had...yeah that's an easy no lol

lol get shit on by reality traitor

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/20/presidents-ranking-trump-biden-list
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Zareth
04/13/24 10:56:23 PM
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Every source except the ones I use are far left propaganda

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adjl
04/13/24 11:12:27 PM
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"Biden is the worst president" is such a hilarious take because it immediately outs the person in question as having "Biden replaced Trump" as the sum total of their political knowledge. Like him or not, Biden is a thoroughly unremarkable president. The only things that stand out about him are that he took power after one of the most controversial presidents ever (two impeachments, an attempt to overthrow the election to install him undemocratically, and over a hundred indictments - whatever your opinion on his political stances, it's undeniable that he's made quite a stir) and during/after the worst public health crisis in a century, both of which are more a matter of circumstance than anything that can really be attributed to him.

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Revelation34
04/14/24 5:53:11 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...


You are defending someone who was literally arguing to me that it was the banks fault they accepted his fraudulent assessments because they didn't send anyone to verify the information.

Why is it you guys are so eager to defend this one persons criminal actions while condemning everyone else?


Citation needed.

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imCheatingdude
04/14/24 8:37:56 AM
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
it is pretty strange that the supposed party of law and order are putting all their cards into a person facing like 100 felony charges
You think they care about their dear leader who can do no wrong?

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Metalsonic66
04/14/24 8:44:20 AM
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adjl posted...
"Biden is the worst president" is such a hilarious take because it immediately outs the person in question as having "Biden replaced Trump" as the sum total of their political knowledge
Yeh it's literally Zues

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Muscles
04/14/24 1:55:20 PM
#48:


adjl posted...
"Biden is the worst president" is such a hilarious take because it immediately outs the person in question as having "Biden replaced Trump" as the sum total of their political knowledge. Like him or not, Biden is a thoroughly unremarkable president. The only things that stand out about him are that he took power after one of the most controversial presidents ever (two impeachments, an attempt to overthrow the election to install him undemocratically, and over a hundred indictments - whatever your opinion on his political stances, it's undeniable that he's made quite a stir) and during/after the worst public health crisis in a century, both of which are more a matter of circumstance than anything that can really be attributed to him.
Biden's whole thing was not being trump, he's pretty bad and hasn't done anything beneficial (besides not being trump). He's pretty bad and has hurt this country with his rampant spending and printing money, thus causing inflation (it is also because of greedy companies, but printing so much during covid came back to bite us in the ass too).

Biden is mid pack at best and in not even sure if he's better than Trump. At least things were more affordable under him, but I would rather have a dead squirrel than either of them. At least you have guys like Andrew Jackson, Woodrow Wilson, and FDR preventing either from being the worst ever unless you let recency bias take a hold of you

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Entity13
04/14/24 1:58:43 PM
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but printing so much during covid came back to bite us in the ass too

...You do know much of the height of Covid, and the remaining nine months of the fiscal year after Biden entered office, was Trump's era for finances, right? I'm not saying Biden was necessarily good, but this clause of your statement has me feeling the need to ask questions.

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Muscles
04/14/24 2:09:47 PM
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Entity13 posted...
...You do know much of the height of Covid, and the remaining nine months of the fiscal year after Biden entered office, was Trump's era for finances, right? I'm not saying Biden was necessarily good, but this clause of your statement has me feeling the need to ask questions.
He didn't need to print the extra money that started this crazy inflation. At the very least he could have done something since then to help but this economy is shit. Gas, food, and housing prices are all out of hand and he has done nothing about it.

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