Board 8 > Toy Story Mafia Topic 2 - On the Conveyor Belt

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Player List
2. ItzKnightz
3. Enchantress (Lea)
4. Forceful_Dragon (FD)
5. PunishedBen (Ben)
6. changmas (Chang)
7. Lopen
8 Obellisk (Sbell)
9 UltimaterializerX (Ulti)
10 Leafeon13N (Red)
11 Corrik7 (Corrik)
12 ctesjbuvf (ctes)
13 MZero
14 Kirby321 (Kirby)
15 htaeD (Death)

With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch. Day ends Monday at 9pm EST, approximately 12 hours from now. Good luck all.

Votals Round Up

No lynch(3) - Fd, Kirby, Lea,(ItzKnightz), (Chang)
Chang (2) Ulti,ItzKnightz, (lopen), (IGCD), (Knight), (sbell), (Lopen)
Ctes(1)- Lopen
Kirby(1)- Corrik
Lea (1)- Ben, (Lopen)
Lopen (1) - Chang,(Kirby)
Corrik (0) - (Ulti), (Lopen)
Ben (0) - (Knight)

Is anyone else concerned that Ulti hasn't faked a claim and is acting like he can swing votes with a beat of his chest?

Maybe it's just me.

Lopen, I would have gotten down on that Lea lynch... if you decide to spin back around the Claw abides.

Too many shady people soft approving the Lea lynch for me to feel good about it right now

Ben's the only one on Lea currently.

I haven't really gotten any feels from him one way or the other

I don't consider a vote a soft approve.

Ctes is the big one I'm suspicious of but there are others too.

Ah okay. Well, generally I would rather think out loud before collecting thoughts regardless of how strong it is. I think it's much better to leave some than no thoughts. I personally don't feel like my early insight as town is particularly great not helped by the fact that I have been scum or shot early in every game for like over a year but I will take the compliment I suppose. Just to finish up this talk, I will have time to sit down and properly play later until then you will have to live with sporadical posting only. And in that time my I would prefer to hit into the inactive pile, more than I usually would because laying low after losing a member and having NL as the lead makes more sense than generally laying low.

If Lea doesn't come back ever then it's definitely a hard approve. For now it's definitely soft as pending on what she says about the NL vote. I would not immediately think Lea actively doesn't show up at all after being sussed for the NL vote.

I can't imagine if your main platform is "lynch an inactive" that Lea is your #1 priority unless you're scum who wants Lea off the board

I have never called her first priority though. She stands out because it's more unusual for her and because of the unexplained vote.

On the contrary, she could have just not voted that and (perhaps depending on the team) I'm not sure a scum team would prefer NL. If she was a clear priority I would have voted her.

She's the only lurker you mentioned as a good place to start. Your vote was not placed but it is fairly clear that's where you were going

It's a good lead yeah, let's see what she says

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Numerically, we are less likely to hit scum today now than before the game began.

I do not like this statement as defense to not lynch someone.

I would lynch FD today.

The deleted post is my own. Carry on.

Also while you gave a heartfelt rant there I feel this is the worst game to play this defense on.

Activity has been very low. You're saying you're doing the best you can and can't keep up due to timezones.

I'm saying I don't buy it because it's easy to keep up with this game.

Sorry Ctes my vote stays on you and I also veto the Lea lynch (to the extent I can-- I'm not Ulti here). My apologies if you're town I meant no offense calling you "worse than inactive"-- you're one of the best players here.

One thing is keeping up another thing is posting on phone while doing something else. It's not even too much timezones. Anyway, I misunderstood a post, sorry about that! Everything else I think I made clear, so let's just leave it at that. I'll take the compliment although I'm personally feeling super rusty and then I don't think it's useful to antone try to discuss it further.

Obellisk posted...

Is anyone else concerned that Ulti hasn't faked a claim and is acting like he can swing votes with a beat of his chest?

Concerned that he has not done something scum does?

Why is No Lynch leading wtf

Going to be busy today. Won't be here to tunnel Ctes all day. I hope someone else will do it.

Sounds like a job for Knightz. Assume Ctes is mafia and find every bit of evidence to drive him into the ground you can do it. (Any volunteers welcome)

If it helps Ctes, I've had a lot of those feelings myself from time to time. (Not just due to my timezone either.)
Though what is your priority at the moment is the question I have right now.

I will also state that you at least deserve patience more than someone like Lea tbh.

htaeD posted...

I will also state that you at least deserve patience more than someone like Lea tbh.

Putting them in the same bucket feels at odds with your previous thoughts on ctes

C u D2

ctesjbuvf posted...

Concerned that he has not done something scum does?

Ulti loves outside the standards of town and scum. If Ulti isn't doing something HE normally does it's concerning.

Lopen posted...

Putting them in the same bucket feels at odds with your previous thoughts on ctes

Mostly said that because I disagreed with your idea to veto a Lea lynch today whereas I feel she has not earned that good will.

Petty? Maybe.

Allthough it appears that she is clearly doing it on purpose now, and reverse psychology is my weakness.

Lea is one of the most active players on the board historically, I think she has earned that goodwill.

You also should be out to find scum not punish people for lurking. Vultures clearly circling Lea. Likely town.

Obellisk posted...

Ulti loves outside the standards of town and scum. If Ulti isn't doing something HE normally does it's concerning.

Trying to read Ulti is a fool's errand. Scan him and call it a day

I just worry about any inactives due to how much I have seen scum coast on goodwill in recent games.
Then again I was planning to coast through day1 myself, so you may have a point here. At least for today.

I think y'all are barking up the wrong tree on Ctes. This is usually how he plays, and he always gets suspected for it. Same old D1 song and dance. It's a miracle you guys haven't jumped down my throat about being scummy because that's usually a D1 staple for me :P

Lea's lack of posts is... deeply concerning. Is she doing all right? Like, outside of the game?

htaeD posted...

I just worry about any inactives due to how much I have seen scum coast on goodwill in recent games.
Then again I was planning to coast through day1 myself, so you may have a point here. At least for today.

What do you think of Red?

htaeD posted...

If it helps Ctes, I've had a lot of those feelings myself from time to time. (Not just due to my timezone either.)
Though what is your priority at the moment is the question I have right now.

I will also state that you at least deserve patience more than someone like Lea tbh.

I don't feel like I have ever really been suspected for timezone actually. It was just a bit frustrated to see the point I said in the sign up topic that I signed up with conditionally be used against me and then I misunderstood one of Lopen's posts. For a priority I will have to put you on hold for when I am actually off.

I have never pushed for a Ctes mislynch in my life aside from that time he watched me and I was insane psychic (and notably I didn't suspect him that game until he contradicted my psychic result)

I dunno what you're selling Kirby. Is it based on anything at all?

MZero posted...

Trying to read Ulti is a fool's errand. Scan him and call it a day

it's an art, I am slowly mastering it.

Someone should take up Lopen's request, that sounds fun for until I am off and will try to deduce. So far the case is pretty weak and most discussion it sparked was a misunderstanding.

Nothing really.
Has he posted even more than once?
I havent kept track whether or not Red is improving in activity levels across games either.

Let's just move past Lea and ctes abd lynch FD.

Obellisk posted...

Ulti loves outside the standards of town and scum. If Ulti isn't doing something HE normally does it's concerning.

He is clearly implying some powers though, that is very much in line with usual Ulti to me.

htaeD posted...

Nothing really.
Has he posted even more than once?
I havent kept track whether or not Red is improving in activity levels across games either.

Just seemed a little convenient that, on the topic of inactives, Red was completely glossed over. Which is strange because his status as pretty inactive is fairly notorious, though I'll concede that Lea's inactivity is very much out of the ordinary.

Oh I did mention Red in my initial inactive list.
(and Mzero. But thats less fair due to his timezones)
But yeah people keep bringing up Lea as she's not usually this inactive.

ctesjbuvf posted...

He is clearly implying some powers though, that is very much in line with usual Ulti to me.

that's how you read that?

htaeD posted...

Oh I did mention Red in my initial inactive list.
(and Mzero. But thats less fair due to his timezones)
But yeah people keep bringing up Lea as she's not usually this inactive.

Lea knowing she's the topic of inactivity and strange posting style to only walk back in with a "C U D 2" makes it worse?

Obellisk posted...

that's how you read that?

Read it like he probably has some power which could be anything, town or scum even, but definitely role implying. Did you read it as just implying strong presense?

MZero posted...

Why is No Lynch leading wtf

What should be leading?

Obellisk posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Numerically, we are less likely to hit scum today now than before the game began.

I do not like this statement as defense to not lynch someone.

I would lynch FD today.

Then vote me. What a weak thing to say and not even cast a vote.

Is what I said wrong? No. We have less scum to potentially lynch today than we did before the game began, full stop. If you lynch me that chance is reduced to 0% because I am town. All you can do today is force claims out which is something scum WANTS now that their godfather is dead.

And yeah, there is a chance that scum could be lynched today, big fucking deal. It's a LOW chance and we can start pursuing lynches more aggressively tomorrow. That doesn't mean we can't still be sus of people today, just that I believe we should NL regardless of the sus because sus is often wrong and lynching or outing town power should absolutely be avoided. Last thing we need is for another power to claim for no reason.

Obellisk posted...

Let's just move past Lea and ctes abd lynch FD.

LOL you said it again half an hour later and still didn't vote.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Read it like he probably has some power which could be anything, town or scum even, but definitely role implying. Did you read it as just implying strong presense?

by all means, ho back and reread the first 4 pages of ulti posts and show me which one says to you "I'm town power and hiding it"

Obellisk posted...

Lea knowing she's the topic of inactivity and strange posting style to only walk back in with a "C U D 2" makes it worse?

Not sure what you are asking here.
Not sure if it makes it worse or better either. Makes it clear that she's doing it on purpose at least.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

LOL you said it again half an hour later and still didn't vote.

lol, like votes matter when you have the claw.