Current Events > If it was possible to use laser hair removal on an infant boy's facial hair...

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...would it be ethical for a boy's parents to remove their son's facial hair? The boy can't consent to it, but a lot of men end up just shaving every (other) day.

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?

I assume this is a weird roundabout circumcision topic? Answering the topic at face value, no, that is unethical.

Cemith posted...

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?

Obviously little boys don't have visible facial hair, but they still have hair follicles which would eventually become facial hair during puberty. If there was a way to kill those hair follicles before puberty, would it be ethical for parents to do so?

Had to pull an alt for this one huh

I wish my parents had that done to me.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Had to pull an alt for this one huh

hopefully they get the alts aswell

The anti-circumcision movement is so weird. There's really no other movement like it where they're probably objectively right but the fact that they're all a bunch of extreme weirdos makes them wrong.

Hell no that wouldn't be ethical.

Thats not how hair removal works

A prepubescent child wont have the hair from puberty to kill off

Nemu posted...

face value

Heheh

BoomerKuwanger posted...

I was thinking transphobe tbh but this might make more sense. You never know though, some transphobes think they're cutting off five year olds' genitals (or they don't really think that but still find it a useful enough lie to keep repeating)

Guarantee this person is a bad faith poster

It's a good question

It's ethical imo

Oh trans kids can get puberty blockers with parental consent, well is it ethical to get hair removal with parental consent for infant baby, and why cant they be trans racial too?

Its making up stuff that doesnt even exist

Are you Stonetoss?

Nemu posted...

I assume this is a weird roundabout circumcision topic?

At best. I've got a feeling it's something probably even more insidious.

XenogearsDisc2 posted...

Obviously little boys don't have visible facial hair, but they still have hair follicles which would eventually become facial hair during puberty. If there was a way to kill those hair follicles before puberty, would it be ethical for parents to do so?

No, because it's something that can just as easily be offered when the kid is an adult (or at least a teenager) and can choose for themself, and no harm or added difficulty arises from waiting for such a time.

My first question would be why the fuck are you doing something cosmetic on a baby regardless of if it's circumcision or not? Unless it's medically necessary there shouldn't be a reason to so any of that

I remember seeing a story on TV and how this heavily disabled girl, her parents had her ovaries uterus and breast buds removed on the onset of puberty because she'd never have a normal adolescence and I'm like "damn, even if she's mentally impared to that point it seems really invasive and unethical." Felt sorry for her.

No, it wouldn't be ethical in the slightest. It's a complete violation of consent.

Ethics aside, it's not possible. The laser needs a visible hair follicle to lock onto.

At least the TC had the decency to dip on their own topic, this wasn't going anywhere good.

ItsNotA2Mer posted...

At least the TC had the decency to dip on their own topic, this wasn't going anywhere good.

True.

the topic doesnt really work for circumcision with reverse of escalation but it definitely fits with conservative ignorance surrounding gender affirming care

Ive encountered a fair number of users on these forum even who actually believed young children were getting surgery to be trans, its really embarrassing but they actually believe that stuff

infant boy's facial hair

I think you'll need something stronger than laser hair removable if your baby is growing a beard. Try wolfsbane or silver.

CountCorvinus posted...

infant boy's facial hair

I think you'll need something stronger than laser hair removable if your baby is growing a beard. Try wolfsbane or silver.

lanugo is a thing

CSCA33 posted...

it definitely fits with conservative ignorance surrounding gender affirming care

Yep, pretty sure this was where it was heading.

Smashingpmkns posted...

The anti-circumcision movement is so weird. There's really no other movement like it where they're probably objectively right but the fact that they're all a bunch of extreme weirdos makes them wrong.

Vegans.

CountCorvinus posted...

infant boy's facial hair

I think you'll need something stronger than laser hair removable if your baby is growing a beard. Try wolfsbane or silver.

To reword this premise again:

From my understanding, everyone is born with hair follicles under their face's skin which can later become facial hair when exposed to enough testosterone for long enough. Currently, it's not possible to remove these hair follicles before they've become facial hair.

For my theoretical, let's say it was possible to remove these hair follicles prior to puberty via some new procedure. Let's also assume that this procedure is easier or safer or something to use on infants than on adults for whatever reason. But it's still possible for adults to use this new procedure, laser hair removal, and/or electrolysis to remove their facial hair.

In this hypothetical scenario, would it be ethical for parents to use this procedure on their male children to prevent them from growing facial hair? Also, would it be ethical for parents to use this procedure on their female children, given that some women can grow a bit of facial hair much later in life?

if my infant son is able to grow a beard, I say let him. he'll be the coolest kid on the playground.

XenogearsDisc2 posted...

In this hypothetical scenario, would it be ethical for parents to use this procedure on their male children to prevent them from growing facial hair? Also, would it be ethical for parents to use this procedure on their female children, given that some women can grow a bit of facial hair much later in life?

Generally no. If there was a special circumstance, say, a family history of hair growth related disorders that such a treatment would be highly beneficial towards the management of, that could be a special case, but I'd say no for an average situation where it's purely about the cosmetic outcome. However, teenagers should absolutely be allowed to receive the procedure with consent from both the teen themself and one parent. I'd even say just the teen themself once they hit 16.

XenogearsDisc2 posted...

To reword this premise again:

From my understanding, everyone is born with hair follicles under their face's skin which can later become facial hair when exposed to enough testosterone for long enough. Currently, it's not possible to remove these hair follicles before they've become facial hair.

For my theoretical, let's say it was possible to remove these hair follicles prior to puberty via some new procedure. Let's also assume that this procedure is easier or safer or something to use on infants than on adults for whatever reason. But it's still possible for adults to use this new procedure, laser hair removal, and/or electrolysis to remove their facial hair.

In this hypothetical scenario, would it be ethical for parents to use this procedure on their male children to prevent them from growing facial hair? Also, would it be ethical for parents to use this procedure on their female children, given that some women can grow a bit of facial hair much later in life?

Why? What the flying fuck is the point of this impossible hypothetical?

Why should anyone entertain this entirely pointless thought exercise, or would you care to elaborate why you are asking this and how its applicable literally anything else?

BoomerKuwanger posted...

Let's just say for the sake of argument that people were to do a thing with no clear motivation, using a non-existent hypothetical technology, how would that make you feel?

Checkmate libs

Lol

Spot on.

I applaud TC for coming back, but give us something to work with here!

Beards are good