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This type of thing is on youtube too (5 Minute Crafts)

Man someone of my weight would have to eat like a million apples to get cyanide poisoning

I watched five seconds of the first video and it had the lady going "Then we pour into our Doritos bag" and I stopped

Is the video taking said tiktoks seriously? Or is it deriding people who try to use said obviously comedic videos as reasons to ban tiktok?

Dudebusters posted...

I watched five seconds of the first video and it had the lady going "Then we pour into our Doritos bag" and I stopped

Is the video taking said tiktoks seriously? Or is it deriding people who try to use said obviously comedic videos as reasons to ban tiktok?

Don't you dare trash the walking taco

I watched more of the video and yes, the guy is actually taking the satirical accounts seriously. Oh dear

Its obvious rage/engagement bait

You see something absurd, you comment about it, they get more views when you tell other people about it, the cycle continues.

Only watched the first video, but the way the woman ends every sentence with the same inflection is aggravating.

Doesn't matter if it's rage bait or not. A lot of kids see them on there, same way they see then on YouTube for 5 minute crafts, try to copy them, and hurt themselves.

I'm some cases, severely. It's a matter of the platforms not taking things seriously and coming down on that content. Do you know how many people hurt themselves by microwaving eggs?

Shits crazy. Some are stupid and have no one to blame, but a lot of kids see or hear about it and try it, not knowing better. It needs to be pointed out, so platforms will actually do something. If they don't, then yeah, government agencies will end up getting involved.

Senta posted...

Doesn't matter if it's rage bait or not. A lot of kids see them on there, same way they see then on YouTube for 5 minute crafts, try to copy them, and hurt themselves.

I'm some cases, severely. It's a matter of the platforms not taking things seriously and coming down on that content. Do you know how many people hurt themselves by microwaving eggs?

Shits crazy. Some are stupid and have no one to blame, but a lot of kids see or hear about it and try it, not knowing better. It needs to be pointed out, so platforms will actually do something. If they don't, then yeah, government agencies will end up getting involved.

If a kid is freely doing shit like microwaving eggs because of a satirical tiktok video, that's not on the video, that's on the kid's parents for, you know, not watching their kid and/or teaching them literally basic food safety

When I was too young to comprehend basic food safety, my parents just..Didn't let me prepare my own food. Crazy thought, yeah?

have you not heard of tiktok challenges?

I've seen videos from the third channel and unfortunately, Senta is right. Kids, and adults, try this nonsense and sometimes have bad consequences. Some of these videos are harmless, but others have seriously harmed others.

Link_of_time posted...

I've seen videos from the third channel and unfortunately, Senta is right. Kids, and adults, try this nonsense and sometimes have bad consequences. Some of these videos are harmless, but others have seriously harmed others.

Again, it comes down to parenting.

If your kid doesn't understand how to prepare eggs, why are you, as a parent, allowing them to access the eggs?

Bad parents like to use things like Tiktok to excuse their bad parenting, because everybody loves a scapegoat.

When I was too young to know how to cook with eggs, my parents made it clear I was not to touch the eggs, so I never tried, Youtube be damned. That's what parenting is.

Dudebusters posted...

Again, it comes down to parenting.

If your kid doesn't understand how to prepare eggs, why are you, as a parent, allowing them to access the eggs?

Bad parents like to use things like Tiktok to excuse their bad parenting, because everybody loves a scapegoat.

When I was too young to know how to cook with eggs, my parents made it clear I was not to touch the eggs, so I never tried, Youtube be damned. That's what parenting is.

So every child should know every danger and every parent should predict every encounter? Are you saying you never, in your entire youth, did anything other than what your parents instructed you to do? What about the kids with shit parents, are they just SOL?

Link_of_time posted...

What about the kids with s*** parents, are they just SOL?

...If a kid has shit parents, then yes, it's the fault of the shit parents. What argument do you think you're making here? Do you realize how puritan we would have to be to make up for shit parents, completely? It's called personal responsibility. Shit parents deserve to be punished as shit parents, you can't shift the blame to fucking Youtube or Tiktok.

You appear to want to give said shit parents an out to blame something else. Why? Do you care to explain that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0TnwJLR_wY

Maybe I really am out of touch. In my day, if I did something blatantly stupid that I, by all means, should have known not to do, people looked at my parents and went "Well, why the fuck did you not teach them/why did you let them do that/why did you give them access/etc?"

Apparently in today's day and age, parents don't need to actually monitor their children or teach them anything, they can just blame Youtube.

The people who seem to think you are able to monitor kids 24/7 are so obviously not parents.

Enclave posted...

The people who seem to think you are able to monitor kids 24/7 are so obviously not parents.

You don't have to monitor your kids 24/7 to teach them things like "Hey, don't fucking cook shit when I'm not watching."

How is this such a wild concept?

If you don't feel your kid understands how to properly cook things... Don't let them cook stuff if you're not around. And if they do, that's your fault, not Youtube's.

dont forget the kia challenge started on the tok

I would hope people have common sense to not try these. Like how a few years back the milk crate challenge was a thing.

rideshort posted...

I would hope people have common sense to not try these.

Parents don't teach common sense anymore because they can just blame the internet, and go "You clearly don't have a child if you expected me to teach them not to set things on fire!"

It's wild.

internet clout is a hell of a drug to people its dumb

Dudebusters posted...

Parents don't teach common sense anymore because they can just blame the internet, and go "You clearly don't have a child if you expected me to teach them not to set things on fire!"

It's wild.

A shame really. I have a daughter and something she doesn't understand, she knows to ask me or mom about it for guidance. This is something I've taught to her very early on. I normally don't have to very about her making bad choices as a result. Shame parents don't take the time to teach their young. Also there is such a thing as parental control on devices children use to access this.

Dudebusters posted...

...If a kid has shit parents, then yes, it's the fault of the shit parents.

So how does this help those kids? I guessing your response will just be, "well it's shit parents responsibility".

Dudebusters posted...

What argument do you think you're making here?

That my only concern is the outcome of those vulnerable to the issue at hand.

Dudebusters posted...

Do you realize how puritan we would have to be to make up for shit parents, completely? It's called personal responsibility.

I don't think it's puritan that we place warning labels on hazardous materials. Parents didn't know the dangers of lead paint, leaded gas, asbestos, cigarettes, and about million other things beyond their purview. Vaccines are recent example of how misinformation, intentional or otherwise, can cause confusion, and thus harm.

Dudebusters posted...

Shit parents deserve to be punished as shit parents, you can't shift the blame to fucking Youtube or Tiktok.

You appear to want to give said shit parents an out to blame something else. Why? Do you care to explain that?

Because the shit parents likely won't be the ones paying those consequences. My interest isn't about punishing shit parents. I might more interested in harm reduction.

As a child, my parents never gave me the "no eggs in the microwave" talk. I never tried, but I doubt many had that specific talk. Why didn't they give me that talk? Well, according to you they were shit parents with no sense of personal responsibility. More likely, it's that they never even thought I'd try, as it was not something they themselves did. Thing is everyday someone is coming up with new ideas, there is no intelligence in thinking parents will be able predict every new encounter.

My thought is that maybe it's better to put up a warning sign, than trust everyone will see the hazard.

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This. I've seen a ton of stuff criticizing the dumb shit instead of supporting it.

yeah that stuff is curated for you thats why

Dudebusters posted...

You don't have to monitor your kids 24/7 to teach them things like "Hey, don't fucking cook shit when I'm not watching."

How is this such a wild concept?

If you don't feel your kid understands how to properly cook things... Don't let them cook stuff if you're not around. And if they do, that's your fault, not Youtube's.

Uh huh.

Imagine thinking telling a kid" Don't do a thing" and actually believing that they'll listen 100% of the time.

If you want some real parenting advice? Don't let kids on YouTube, period. Google is absolutely terrible at moderation.

Link_of_time posted...

So how does this help those kids? I guessing your response will just be, "well it's s*** parents responsibility".

...What do you want me to say? Yes, it absolutely sucks that the kid has shit parents, but first and foremost, the responsibility for teaching them is on the parents. You can't blame Youtube just because their parents sucked. And yes it absolutely sucks if their parents suck, I wouldn't wish that on anybody, but that doesn't change anything. There is no universal answer, so I'm very curious what you expect to be done, here?

Enclave posted...

Uh huh.

Imagine thinking telling a kid" Don't do a thing" and actually believing that they'll listen 100% of the time.

I mean if I try to teach a kid not to do something, and they don't listen to me..Yes, I'm going to blame me, not Youtube. I'm not going to pass the blame. What are you arguing, exactly?

Link_of_time posted...

I don't think it's puritan that we place warning labels on hazardous materials.

..There literally are warning labels, though. On almost everything. Including eggs.

Again, what do you think you're arguing? Eggs have labels on them that say "cook eggs until yolks are firm."

Dudebusters posted...

..There literally are warning labels, though. On almost everything. Including eggs.

Again, what do you think you're arguing?

I'm arguing that you should not let kids on YouTube, you know, like I explicitly said.

Why does youtube get a pass for this and worse but not TikTok

Enclave posted...

I'm arguing that you should not let kids on YouTube, you know, like I explicitly said.

...Yes, and that's the parents' responsibility, not Youtube's. You're not even arguing with anything I actually said. My point was "If your kids will mistake satirical youtube/tiktok videos as real..don't let them watch them." We're not even disagreeing, it seems..?

Axiom posted...

Why does youtube get a pass for this and worse but not TikTok

It doesn't, I wouldn't let kids on either of those platforms and I honestly don't get parents who do. Moderation on YouTube is atrocious and I can't imagine TikTok is any better.

Dudebusters posted...

..There literally are warning labels, though. On almost everything. Including eggs.

Again, what do you think you're arguing? Eggs have labels on them that say "cook eggs until yolks are firm."

I'm curious as to how you think that warning label got on those eggs.

Dudebusters posted...

I mean if I try to teach a kid not to do something, and they don't listen to me..Yes, I'm going to blame me, not Youtube. I'm not going to pass the blame. What are you arguing, exactly?

So are you saying you're gonna teach your future kid not to chug alcohol anally? Or are you just gonna assume that scenario is implied in your "don't play in the street" talk? cuz if you don't that's pretty lazy parenting of you. Don't tell me that's absurd, because a full grown adult, full of personal responsibility and years of experience died of just that.

Dudebusters posted...

...What do you want me to say? Yes, it absolutely sucks that the kid has shit parents, but first and foremost, the responsibility for teaching them is on the parents. You can't blame Youtube just because their parents sucked. And yes it absolutely sucks if their parents suck, I wouldn't wish that on anybody, but that doesn't change anything. There is no universal answer, so I'm very curious what you expect to be done, here?

Thoughts and Prayers it is then.

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Agreed. Most of them can barely read so maybe we try shapes and colors.

Link_of_time posted...

Agreed. Most of them can barely read so maybe we try shapes and colors.

Or, or..follow me, here, we start holding parents responsible for seeming to think its up to their kids to understand warning signs?

Just a thought.

Link_of_time posted...

Thoughts and Prayers it is then.

Oh wait, I missed this. You're attempting to simultaneously absolve bad parents of ALL fault, while also making me seem like the bad person for thinking parents should, you know, take responsibility for making sure they teach their children not to do dangerous things.

Link_of_time posted...

So are you saying you're gonna teach your future kid not to chug alcohol anally?

Whoa, I also missed this.

..Yes, I am? What the fuck kind of example is this? Why is "Hey, son, don't chug alcohol up your ass" apparently a weird thing to teach your kid? This example seems particularly telling..

Link_of_time posted...

So are you saying you're gonna teach your future kid not to chug alcohol anally? Or are you just gonna assume that scenario is implied in your "don't play in the street" talk? cuz if you don't that's pretty lazy parenting of you. Don't tell me that's absurd

Wait, are you saying not to chug alcohol anally is an "absurd" thing to teach? I'm so confused. Though, to be quite honest, I feel like I wouldn't normally ever even think to chug alcohol anally, anyway, and I certainly never thought it was a good idea, based on videos, or friends, or anything, so I'm... Extremely confused where this example came from.

It's extremely telling that that dude's first example of "Things you can't teach your kids" is "Hey don't chug alcohol up your ass"

I don't even know how to respond

Personally, I'm of the opinion that if your kid doesn't graduate college with the nickname "Buttchug" then you've failed as a parent.

StealThisSheen posted...

Wait, are you saying not to chug alcohol anally is an "absurd" thing to teach? I'm so confused. Though, to be quite honest, I feel like I wouldn't normally ever even think to chug alcohol anally, anyway, and I certainly never thought it was a good idea, based on videos, or friends, or anything, so I'm... Extremely confused where this example came from.

Actually the "absurd" part was Dude predicting that scenario as possibility. The example comes from Dudes fallacious argument that teaching your kids not to microwave eggs is some common discussion a parent will have with their kids. And having said discussion will guarantee a child to totally be averse to all potentially hazardous actions. Most of us had talks about drugs in general and still how many here can say they never tried them?

StealThisSheen posted...

Though, to be quite honest, I feel like I wouldn't normally ever even think to chug alcohol anally, anyway, and I certainly never thought it was a good idea, based on videos, or friends, or anything, so

That's the point. Many of the things we're discussing are things no one actually thinks will happen. We can't even conceive of some of the things our kids will unfortunately participate in. Yet, every year we hear the same kind of story we have since before I was born.

Link_of_time posted...

The example comes from Dudes fallacious argument that teaching your kids not to microwave eggs is some common discussion a parent will have with their kids.

I don't think that was his argument at all. His argument was to just teach your kids not to cook anything, period, if they don't know how to, unless you're around. Which seems logical to me?

StealThisSheen posted...

I don't think that was his argument at all. His argument was to just teach your kids not to cook anything, period, if they don't know how to, unless you're around. Which seems logical to me?

EDIT: To be clear, this is logical to me because my parents taught me "Don't even touch the oven unless we tell you to." And I didn't, because I had no idea how the oven worked, anyway, so I never even tried because, you know, my parents told me not to, and I knew I'd be punished if I didn't listen.

Thing is, that doesn't stop all kids. Fear of punishment works great on some kids, other kids not so much. People who don't have kids often expect kids to be a whole lot more reasonable and rational than they actually are in reality. For instance, I don't have a lot to worry about with my kid in the kitchen, she's not the sort to mess around in there, that said there's friends of hers that you need to watch like a hawk. It doesn't all come down to the parenting, you even end up with siblings where you have one that's responsible and another that's wild, you cannot discount a kids personality which has far more influences impacting it than just the parents.

Enclave posted...

Thing is, that doesn't stop all kids. Fear of punishment works great on some kids, other kids not so much. People who don't have kids often expect kids to be a whole lot more reasonable and rational than they actually are in reality. For instance, I don't have a lot to worry about with my kid in the kitchen, she's not the sort to mess around in there, that said there's friends of hers that you need to watch like a hawk. It doesn't all come down to the parenting, you even end up with siblings where you have one that's responsible and another that's wild, you cannot discount a kids personality which has far more influences impacting it than just the parents.

I feel like there's a miscommunication, because it wasn't even a fear of punishment. I just... Knew I had no idea what I was doing, because my parents taught me, at a young age, how complicated the oven could be, so I never felt the urge to try something I didn't know how to do. I don't know the full context, but I feel like that was Dude's point. You have to teach your kids to respect the capability of something, so that they don't just fear punishment, but they also recognize the actual danger, instead of just blaming something else.

That's what I was trying to say yes but Enclave blocked me because they couldn't handle me disagreeing so I can't actually make that clear so whatever, I guess.