Current Events > There is no coming back from a 2nd Trump presidency.

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Something people also are underestimating is thr apathy levels. You think they are bad now? Imagine this clear criminal being rewarded by being the most powerful person in the world. After being told repeatedly that "No one is above the law".

The chain reaction of this would lead to apathy levels so high that GOP would begin to win in deep blue areas because of so many jaded people completely believing the system cannot work anymore.

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Correct. Trump is a malignant tumor on an already faltering democracy.

there's no coming back from this complete tarpit of the two party system chugging along with geriatrics at the wheel while late-stage capitalism continues to cannibalize itself.

Poe's law.

GrandConjuraton posted...

Deleted the first version of this topic?

Yes.

I feel like we aren't going to come back from the first time.

luigi33 posted...

Something people also are underestimating is thr apathy levels. You think they are bad now? Imagine this clear criminal being rewarded by being the most powerful person in the world. After being told repeatedly that "No one is above the law".

The chain reaction of this would lead to apathy levels so high that GOP would begin to win in deep blue areas because of so many jaded people completely believing the system cannot work anymore.

And somehow, tankies will continue blaming the Democrats while daydreaming of the revolution magically saving them all.

Humble_Novice posted...

And somehow, tankies will continue blaming the Democrats while daydreaming of the revolution magically saving them all.

A revolution which, if it actually happened, they'd be the first to flee the country to avoid having to fight in it.

We are still suffering from the first one.

For anyone encouraging others to abstain from voting for Biden, I hope they're ready to be the frontrunners in whatever revolution we're supposed to have after they let Trump take power. I would hope that have more than more peaceful protests in mind, but somehow I don't think they have the means to back up their passion by showing an actual achievable alternative to having to live under GOP rule. Also, anyone wanting to promote an Acceleration theory or whatever the fuck they call it can go bang their heads against the wall until their few remaining brain cells no longer threaten the well-being of the rest of us.

I'm ultimately afraid though that there will be no coming back for us as a society, not because of continued apathy and perceived helplessness, but because if the GOP gets control of the presidency and congress, Project 2025 and the US leaving the Paris Climate Agreement would be a point of no return for our country and humanity at large. Peoples' enthusiasm doesn't matter if Project 2025 prevents democratically elected leaders from taking power in the world's most powerful country. It also doesn't matter if oceans and landmasses reach a crucial point of heat and/or acidity that coral reeves, plankton, bees, and all other basic fundamental parts of our global ecosystems cannot survive in significant numbers. With the latter, we're already so close to a point of collapse, and people still have the nerve to act like there are issues so important that we should risk electing leaders to let everything go straight off the deep end. It's infuriating the societal state we've gotten to really. So yeah, there's my rant. Fandom can shove it up its ass if this kind of dialogue is now being discouraged.

Humble_Novice posted...

And somehow, tankies will continue blaming the Democrats while daydreaming of the revolution magically saving them all.

No one is going to be tuned in enough to listen to talkies or liberals. Most people will tune out of politics all together on the left. And just try to survive until the end.

Ive learned most people just lack the vision and understanding. Only live in the moment.

CARRRNE_ASADA posted...

Ive learned most people just lack the vision and understanding. Only live in the moment.

Agreed, the vast majority of people, I wonder if they can even put on pants most days. The simple fact that we have a criminal ex-president arguing his immunity in front of SCOTUS is literally absurd. As a person with a background in Philosophy and a strong sense of ethics and justice, I am appalled by what I heard coming out of the immunity claims in front of SCOTUS and what some of those conservative justices were implying. It was literally sickening.

"Yeah but genocide joe"

So, will people REALLY move to Canada this time?

ejolson posted...

Agreed, the vast majority of people, I wonder if they can even put on pants most days. The simple fact that we have a criminal ex-president arguing his immunity in front of SCOTUS is literally absurd. As a person with a background in Philosophy and a strong sense of ethics and justice, I am appalled by what I heard coming out of the immunity claims in front of SCOTUS and what some of those conservative justices were implying. It was literally sickening.

The mask is completely coming off conservatism these days. "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition -- there must be an in group the law protects but does not bind, and out groups the law binds but does not protect" etc.

This immunity shit is the clearest example of this to date, since everyone knows that no Republican is arguing for Biden to have the kind of immunity they want for Trump.

Yup

Sheiky-Baby posted...

So, will people REALLY move to Canada this time?

I think most leftists will completely tune out of politics all together. The Gen Z and Alphas will continue the fight but they will not get support from Millenials.

Apathy comes from the ostensible """"left"""" and pro democracy party seeming unequipped and uninterested in doing the things that would reenergize democracy as we've hurtled towards the cliffs for decades. If not actively hostile.

It comes from all the worst elements of society seeming to get their way and avoid consequences over decades and them being unafraid to seek and wield political power over decades.

If the worst comes to pass, it'll be because of all that rot, not just because of Palestine or a lack of student debt relief. It'll be all the big and little failures of liberalism and the wins of conservatism and fascism..

The apatherton window.

So what happens? No one likes Biden anymore It seems like Trump presidency is all but guaranteed unless we get a magical third option

deoxxys posted...

So what happens? No one likes Biden anymore It seems like Trump presidency is all but guaranteed unless we get a magical third option

LOL wut?

stick to boobs-oh wait you can't anymore.

And somehow, tankies will continue blaming the Democrats while daydreaming of the revolution magically saving them all.

Humble always comes with the worst takes. Are you suggesting that Bernie supporters are actually "tankies"? Or is it a derogatory slur you use against anyone left of the Democrat center?

Real eyes see we are just never coming back.

Trumpers: "This is fearmongering. Lmao at caring so much about politics"

Also Trumpers: "We'll be living in a communist hellhole where you go to prison for wrong speak if Biden wins again! He stole the election! Every child is gonna be LGBTQ now and abortions are gonna be mandatory!"

Sheiky-Baby posted...

So, will people REALLY move to Canada this time?

No, they'll probably just suffer at the hands of the government and die miserably at some point.

CrimsonGear80 posted...

LOL wut?

stick to boobs-oh wait you can't anymore.

Well if there was a president with boobs I'd vote for them....jk