Current Events > So now that Drake is 1-2 in major rap beef where the highest you rank him ?

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LordYeezus
05/06/24 2:06:25 PM
#101:


Top 1 obv

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hockeybabe89
05/06/24 2:10:38 PM
#102:


masterbarf posted...
He doesn't rank all time at all.
He is certainly one of the rappers of all time. You can't deny Drake existed.

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gamepimp12
05/06/24 2:10:45 PM
#103:


WalkingPlague posted...
this.

anyone who puts drake in the top 100 needs their head checked.

drake basically has a table of writers trying to decipher and put into words the shit kdot is saying so his slow ass has a rebuttal.

drake is 0-XX. no matter how many times he drops diss tracks, kdot always wins.


this is just factually wrong.

this entire topic has basically been you guys admitting you dont know what youre talking about

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DipDipDiver
05/06/24 2:13:58 PM
#104:


Honestly I've never liked Drake's music and never had much respect for him as an artist, but these diss tracks moved him up in my book. He still got fucking washed, but he's a better rapper than I ever gave him credit for

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Gwynevere
05/06/24 2:21:43 PM
#105:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Drake doesn't even break the top 100
I was gonna say top 50 but yeah probably this if I were to sit down and list a top 100

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NoMeLx22x
05/06/24 2:22:17 PM
#106:


TCs entire defense is literally just "no, I'm right" without ever addressing anything else in the entire topic

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Murphiroth
05/06/24 2:23:49 PM
#107:


NoMeLx22x posted...
TCs entire defense is literally just "no, I'm right" without ever addressing anything else in the entire topic

This is his entire schtick, he does the same things in his topics where he whines about the women he's "dating" and whatnot.
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ssb_yunglink2
05/06/24 2:33:57 PM
#108:


DipDipDiver posted...
Honestly I've never liked Drake's music and never had much respect for him as an artist, but these diss tracks moved him up in my book. He still got fucking washed, but he's a better rapper than I ever gave him credit for
Hes got some legit good songs, especially earlier on in his career. Once he got big enough around 2015 he made it to the point where he no longer needed to release good music to top the charts.

So we got Views and then More life, which had some good songs but also a lot of forgettable ones. Since he released scorpion hes absolutely had more misses than hits.


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gamepimp12
05/06/24 3:07:37 PM
#109:


NoMeLx22x posted...
TCs entire defense is literally just "no, I'm right" without ever addressing anything else in the entire topic

i only started saying that once yall started saying ridiculous stuff like comparing Nelly to him as a technical rapper. While also admitting you guys havent heard enough of us music.

like you guys havent heard come back season or room to improvement.

nor are you guys actually aware of his stylistic change around 09, cause multiple people have been like he wouldnt survive in the early/mid 00s when he had a bidding war for rapping in a more serious manner at that exact time.

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NoMeLx22x
05/06/24 3:13:30 PM
#110:


Bro, you were the one that brought up Nelly in the first place. A few people commented that if you think Drake is so high but Nelly is not, that's dumb, because they were actually pretty similar. They both were basically the top "pop rapper" of their time.

Neither were especially good technical rappers, but just good at making really catchy songs.

But you keep sticking the to the "Nelly narrative" and ignoring all of the other rappers that are vastly superior to Drake that have been mentioned in this topic.

It seems your only argument for Drake is "he's a commercial success" when that doesn't mean shit at all.

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TheGoldenEel
05/06/24 3:15:05 PM
#111:


gamepimp12 posted...
i only started saying that once yall started saying ridiculous stuff like comparing Nelly to him as a technical rapper. While also admitting you guys havent heard enough of us music.

like you guys havent heard come back season or room to improvement.

nor are you guys actually aware of his stylistic change around 09, cause multiple people have been like he wouldnt survive in the early/mid 00s when he had a bidding war for rapping in a more serious manner at that exact time.
old drake was a fine, even pretty good rapper

but you're trying to thread some needle about popularity and skills or whatever, and drake was not popular from those old mixtape tracks.

he is not a top 20 "rapper" because he spit harder back in the day. there are still lots and lots of rappers that rap way better than what drake was doing back then

you're trying to say that because he has a certain level of skill he used to rap at, and also because he got popular for making pop rap songs, he should be considered one of the greatest rappers, which imo is bogus

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Toonstrack
05/06/24 3:21:26 PM
#112:


Drakes not even top 5. Maybe not even top 10

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gamepimp12
05/06/24 3:26:19 PM
#113:


NoMeLx22x posted...
Bro, you were the one that brought up Nelly in the first place. A few people commented that if you think Drake is so high but Nelly is not, that's dumb, because they were actually pretty similar. They both were basically the top "pop rapper" of their time.

Neither were especially good technical rappers, but just good at making really catchy songs.

But you keep sticking the to the "Nelly narrative" and ignoring all of the other rappers that are vastly superior to Drake that have been mentioned in this topic.

It seems your only argument for Drake is "he's a commercial success" when that doesn't mean shit at all.

I brought up Nelly as an example of a top 30ish rapper all time and yall simultaneously said theres similar artist and Drake isnt top 50 at all.

I havent ignored any rapper, most of the guys youre mentioning either dont have the body of work or commercial success for an all encompassing greatest rappers list

TheGoldenEel posted...
old drake was a fine, even pretty good rapper

but you're trying to thread some needle about popularity and skills or whatever, and drake was not popular from those old mixtape tracks.

he is not a top 20 "rapper" because he spit harder back in the day. there are still lots and lots of rappers that rap way better than what drake was doing back then

you're trying to say that because he has a certain level of skill he used to rap at, and also because he got popular for making pop rap songs, he should be considered one of the greatest rappers, which imo is bogus

im looking at his entire career where hes shown but the elite skill and the huge success, granted rarely at the same time. I ever docked him points for rarely doing both.


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NoMeLx22x
05/06/24 3:28:37 PM
#114:


gamepimp12 posted...
elite skill

What elite skill? Like actually qualify that statement. What skill does Drake have that is elite? Just so we know what your baseline is.

Because it seems like all your saying is commercial success = better rapper which obviously is untrue no matter how many times you say it.

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gamepimp12
05/06/24 3:41:27 PM
#115:


NoMeLx22x posted...
What elite skill? Like actually qualify that statement. What skill does Drake have that is elite? Just so we know what your baseline is.

Because it seems like all your saying is commercial success = better rapper which obviously is untrue no matter how many times you say it.


Hes extremely witty, has a great voice above average bars. He can do the extremely dense quadruple quintuple entendre, though even when hes actually rapping he still doesnt often.

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TheGoldenEel
05/06/24 3:45:46 PM
#116:


gamepimp12 posted...
I brought up Nelly as an example of a top 30ish rapper all time and yall simultaneously said theres similar artist and Drake isnt top 50 at all.

I havent ignored any rapper, most of the guys youre mentioning either dont have the body of work or commercial success for an all encompassing greatest rappers list

im looking at his entire career where hes shown but the elite skill and the huge success, granted rarely at the same time. I ever docked him points for rarely doing both.
drake is not an elite level rapper

youre using Drake the pop star to prop up Drake the rapper

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Wishbone
05/06/24 3:49:57 PM
#117:


Drake has been a top rapper for 10-15 years. The run is absolutely unheard of. If you don't have him in a top FIFTY your objectivity has left the building. Commercial success is very much a skill set most rappers wish they had. He's top of the mountain there, no debate.

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hyperpowder
05/06/24 3:55:44 PM
#118:


I would honestly rather listen to her loss than anything Kendrick has put out in the last 6 years.

People who hate on Drake are kids trying to act cool by hating him even though dude put out banger after banger

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Mew
05/06/24 3:55:56 PM
#119:


Top 50 if you take influence and popularity into account

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hockeybabe89
05/06/24 4:42:29 PM
#120:


hyperpowder posted...
I would honestly rather listen to her loss than anything Kendrick has put out in the last 6 years.

People who hate on Drake are kids trying to act cool by hating him even though dude put out banger after banger
His music's been getting trashed for years. Is this also your opinions on "kids" who don't like BTS?

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DrizztLink
05/06/24 4:52:52 PM
#121:


gamepimp12 posted...
Hes extremely witty
He's outright midrange considering how many fuckin' ghostwriters are needed for every track.

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Thermador446
05/06/24 4:54:11 PM
#122:


DrizztLink posted...
The only joke in here is your fucking ranking.


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CableZL
05/06/24 5:23:42 PM
#123:


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Soooooo uuuuuuuhhhh

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Diceheist
05/06/24 5:58:56 PM
#124:


CableZL posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e74db76b.png

Soooooo uuuuuuuhhhh

He said "if". >_>

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masterbarf
05/06/24 6:48:51 PM
#125:


Wishbone posted...
If you don't have him in a top FIFTY your objectivity has left the building.
Or you just like rap, because every dope rapper is above Drake.

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hockeybabe89
05/06/24 6:56:39 PM
#126:


Are Justin Bieber and Ed Sheeran two of the greatest pop artists of all time?

Are the Eagles a top 5 all time rock band?

Yes, by sales numbers, but does anyone really view "greatest musician" like that if you ask them their top 10/25/50/100?

Should Survivor be in every conversation as the greatest TV show of all time? Dumb, vapid, annoying shit gets crazy popular all the time.

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Vicious_Dios
05/06/24 7:08:16 PM
#127:


So now that Drake is 1-2 in major rap beef where the highest you rank him?

Not even in my top 500. Same goes for KDot, and JCole.

I don't listen to any of them.

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ssb_yunglink2
05/06/24 7:11:08 PM
#128:


Vicious_Dios posted...
Not even in my top 500. Same goes for KDot, and JCole.

I don't listen to any of them.
You listen to 500 rappers that arent drake, J cole or Kendrick

is that right

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hop918
05/06/24 7:13:08 PM
#129:


hockeybabe89 posted...
Yes, by sales numbers, but does anyone really view "greatest musician" like that if you ask them their top 10/25/50/100?

But Drake used to rap like Joe Budden which proves he's an amazing rapper (budden is more known for his storytelling than lyrical ability, something he himself admits)
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Wishbone
05/06/24 8:31:25 PM
#130:


hockeybabe89 posted...
Are Justin Bieber and Ed Sheeran two of the greatest pop artists of all time?

Are the Eagles a top 5 all time rock band?

Yes, by sales numbers, but does anyone really view "greatest musician" like that if you ask them their top 10/25/50/100?

Should Survivor be in every conversation as the greatest TV show of all time? Dumb, vapid, annoying shit gets crazy popular all the time.
None of this is in my lane, but yeah pretty much. I couldn't name you 48 other pop stars or 49 other bands so point is kinda moot. I assume Survivor is indeed considered one of the best reality television shows so uhh... Yeah.

Vicious_Dios posted...
Not even in my top 500. Same goes for KDot, and JCole.

I don't listen to any of them.
Please post their SoundClouds so I can show my support.

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Unknown5uspect
05/06/24 8:38:22 PM
#131:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
You listen to 500 rappers that arent drake, J cole or Kendrick

is that right
VD doesn't listen to rap.

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gamepimp12
05/06/24 8:40:04 PM
#132:


hop918 posted...
But Drake used to rap like Joe Budden which proves he's an amazing rapper (budden is more known for his storytelling than lyrical ability, something he himself admits)

wait are we now saying story telling isnt a lyrical ability. ?

i would also say Joe budden is also know for his introspective raps before it was cool, and his witty bars.

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ssb_yunglink2
05/06/24 8:41:03 PM
#133:


Unknown5uspect posted...
VD doesn't listen to rap.
So he came into a topic about ranking rappers and doesnt listen to rap

interesting

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Scotty_Rogers
05/06/24 8:44:07 PM
#134:


gamepimp12 posted...
GKMC is from 2012

i confused it with damn lol, still not 2000s

ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Youre saying Tyler the creator disappeared after 2012?? Dudes image shift cemented him as a mainstream success.

i would say after 2015 is when he disappeared.

lmao he's never been mainstream, do you know what mainstream is? his record sales aren't anywhere near high enough and he barely has actual hit singles. drake is mainstream, post malone is mainstream, jack harlow is mainstream, etc

tyler and earl have always been more niche

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projectpat72988
05/06/24 8:44:54 PM
#135:


TCs girl is Drakes ghostwriter.
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ssb_yunglink2
05/06/24 8:45:48 PM
#136:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
i confused it with damn lol, still not 2000s

i would say after 2015 is when he disappeared.

lmao he's never been mainstream, do you know what mainstream is? his record sales aren't anywhere near high enough and he barely has actual hit singles. drake is mainstream, post malone is mainstream, jack harlow is mainstream, etc

tyler and earl have always been more niche
Tyler has 2 number one charting albums and both of them are after 2015 what the actual fuck are you talking about

Like I know posting stupid things is what you do, but this is just factually incorrect

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Scotty_Rogers
05/06/24 8:47:53 PM
#137:


NoMeLx22x posted...
Stankonia
SB/TLB
Madvillainy
Mm..Food
The Cold Vein
Food & Liquor
Supreme Clientele
Be

@NoMeLx22x Can you not read? I literally included SB/TLB in what you quoted.

i could throw in stankonia but you seem like a biased hip hop/rap fan when you're including so many albums, believe it or not, there isn't any one genre loaded with amazing albums

why did you even mention a lupe album lol

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Srk700
05/06/24 8:50:47 PM
#138:


Unknown5uspect posted...
VD doesn't listen to rap.

IDK about that. He seems like the type that would listen to Tom McDonald.
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ssb_yunglink2
05/06/24 8:52:17 PM
#139:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
@NoMeLx22x Can you not read? I literally included SB/TLB in what you quoted.

i could throw in stankonia but you seem like a biased hip hop/rap fan when you're including so many albums, believe it or not, there isn't any a single genre loaded with amazing albums

why did you even mention a lupe album lol
Okay chill out youre laying it on a little too thick now

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David1988
05/06/24 8:53:27 PM
#140:


Im way out of the loop with music but I never thought of Drake as a rapper, more of a pop artist. I honestly didnt even know people referred to Drake as a rapper till the rap battle started, but again im so far out of the loop with music.

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ssb_yunglink2
05/06/24 8:54:46 PM
#142:


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Its like watching a court jester i cant help myself

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Srk700
05/06/24 8:55:08 PM
#143:


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Hell, 1 look at who that poster is should tell people not to take him seriously.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/06/24 8:57:54 PM
#144:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Tyler has 2 number one charting albums and both of them are after 2015 what the actual fuck are you talking about

the streaming era changed the rules, making it easier for songs and albums to chart high

https://www.grammy.com/news/billboard-announces-streaming-chart-consideration-change

pre 2017 tyler never had any high charting albums or songs lol. i'll admit though that 2015 is when i largely fell out of the loop with music but tyler has never been a mainstream success. two number one albums doesn't make him gigantic or anything like that

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TheGoldenEel
05/06/24 8:58:39 PM
#145:


TheGoldenEel posted...
Tyler the Creator just headlined coachella


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Vicious_Dios
05/06/24 8:59:10 PM
#146:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
You listen to 500 rappers that arent drake, J cole or Kendrick

is that right

Yar.

Wishbone posted...
Please post their SoundClouds so I can show my support.

Oh man, SoundCloud. Those were the days. That era was the sweetspot, ngl.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...
So he came into a topic about ranking rappers and doesnt listen to rap

interesting

Yeah, that post was weird and truly didn't deserve an actual response. Lmao

Srk700 posted...
IDK about that. He seems like the type that would listen to Tom McDonald.

HEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLL
NOOOOOOOO

Tf?... I mean I'm glad for his continued success and all that jazz, but his corny beats and lyrics just don't do it for me, at all.


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ssb_yunglink2
05/06/24 9:00:30 PM
#147:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
the streaming era changed the rules, making it easier for songs and albums to chart high

https://www.grammy.com/news/billboard-announces-streaming-chart-consideration-change

pre 2017 tyler never had any high charting albums or songs lol. i'll admit though that 2015 is when i largely fell out of the loop with music but tyler has never been a mainstream success. two number one albums doesn't make him gigantic or anything like that
Literal proof that Scotty doesnt know what starting in 2018 means while talking about an album released in july 2017

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Scotty_Rogers
05/06/24 9:01:16 PM
#148:


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lil nas x is a mainstream rapper

you can't put him in the same sentence as a backpack rapper like tyler lol

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ssb_yunglink2
05/06/24 9:02:37 PM
#149:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
lil nas x is a mainstream rapper

you can't put him in the same sentence as a backpack rapper like tyler lol
yeahh sorry bud youre just trying too hard now


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Scotty_Rogers
05/06/24 9:03:45 PM
#150:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Literal proof that Scotty doesnt know what starting in 2018 means while talking about an album released in july 2017

Flower Boy debuted at number two on the US Billboard 200 with 106,000 album-equivalent units of which 70,000 were pure album sales.

"mainstream"

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