Current Events > Dems saved Johnson's speakership today.

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I guarantee not a single republican would ever save a democrats job.

You make it out like it was not a strategic decision

Doe posted...

You make it out like it was not a strategic decision

The next guy would be worse unless it was Hakeem Jeffries

Its a big waste of time trying to choose another one

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Its a big waste of time trying to choose another one

yeah it would stop them from passing all those helpful bills

Remember when Republicans were all over crying that it was really the Democrats fault for not saving McCarthy. Lol

Doe posted...

You make it out like it was not a strategic decision

What guarantees did they get? What legislation is Johnson going to help pass now?

It's a strategy to neuter the twitter faction of the Republican party. Every time they fail it reduces their influence and power.

Enclave posted...

It's a strategy to neuter the twitter faction of the Republican party. Every time they fail it reduces their influence and power.

Never underestimate that crowds ability to recruit ever more goofy goobers from Hicksville in order to remain a thorn in greater politics side, friend.

Agent_Stroud posted...

Never underestimate that crowds ability to recruit ever more goofy goobers from Hicksville in order to remain a thorn in greater politics side, friend.

I'm not underestimating them but what I said is factual. The more impotent they appear the less influence and power they have. Their power comes from actually being able to follow through on their threats.

Garioshi posted...

What guarantees did they get? What legislation is Johnson going to help pass now?

The bipartisan bills are the most depraved like FISA and KOSA.

ClayGuida posted...

I guarantee not a single republican would ever save a democrats job.

Republicans wouldn't piss on a baby if it was on fire.

If they are fighting among each other then they can do less harm. But dems always fight for Republicans.

cjsdowg posted...

If they are fighting among each other then they can do less harm. But dems always fight for Republicans.

Except for the last time they didn't save the speaker....

Reoublicans and Democrats both love massive foreign spending so of course they did.

CADE_FOSTER posted...

The next guy would be worse unless it was Hakeem Jeffries

There is literally no way the next guy could be worse, Republicans have less votes now than when they picked Johnson.

Heineken14 posted...

Except for the last time they didn't save the speaker....

It did work last time. Republicans have managed to pass the fewest bills in generations. This 8n fighting would have hurt the Republicans. But dems in power love the Republicans it gives them an excuse to suck. Hell talk bad about Biden.
.first they ppl do is say but Trump. First thing Joey did when he for in power is praise Republicans. Not the literal first thing but soon after being elected.

cjsdowg posted...

If they are fighting among each other then they can do less harm. But dems always fight for Republicans.

Zero good happened when the government shut down. The House can't really do anything "bad" because the Senate and White House wouldn't approve of it anyway without it being bipartisan.

You are, as usual, wrong and also incredibly shortsighted.

Wasn't this part of the compromise to get the Ukraine aid through?

ClayGuida posted...

I guarantee not a single republican would ever save a democrats job.

I guarantee no Republican would ever save a job. Period.

Ryangrad posted...

Zero good happened when the government shut down. The House can't really do anything "bad" because the Senate and White House wouldn't approve of it anyway without it being bipartisan.

You are, as usual, wrong and also incredibly shortsighted.

Nothing I stated was wrong. You are defended bull shit from the dems as usual. And nothing is short sided by pointing that they helped stablized the Republicans. Them fighting is a win for democrats.

Ryangrad posted...

Zero good happened when the government shut down. The House can't really do anything "bad" because the Senate and White House wouldn't approve of it anyway without it being bipartisan.

You are, as usual, wrong and also incredibly shortsighted.

The government didn't shut down, they passed continuing resolutions to keep the government open until a Speaker was chosen.

Anyway either way there's a fumble here. Either McCarthy shouldn't have been thrown out or Johnson should've been thrown out too. There is no way to argue it was a good idea before but a bad idea now when Johnson is literally more extreme than McCarthy.

Cartoon_Quoter posted...

Wasn't this part of the compromise to get the Ukraine aid through?

More for Israel than Ukraine.

Enclave posted...

It's a strategy to neuter the twitter faction of the Republican party. Every time they fail it reduces their influence and power.

Thing is there's no political benefit to doing that, and the Twitter right would've failed anyway when a less right-wing Speaker than Johnson was chosen to replace him.

Trump is very happy the motion to vacate failed, since it keeps his fascist stooge in power:

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1788337094919614797

ButteryMales posted...

More for Israel than Ukraine.

I didn't realize that was ever in doubt.

Dem leadership did this

Diceheist posted...

The government didn't shut down, they passed continuing resolutions to keep the government open until a Speaker was chosen.

Anyway either way there's a fumble here. Either McCarthy shouldn't have been thrown out or Johnson should've been thrown out too. There is no way to argue it was a good idea before but a bad idea now when Johnson is literally more extreme than McCarthy.

While both are incompetent, Johnson is less knowledgeable, experienced but smarter.

In the short run it didnt matter because Johnson kept fucking up floor votes and could generally be expected to not deliver. But he does appear to be figuring things out; so depending on whether he continues working with Democrats or not it could go either way.

With McCarthy he was the exact opposite. More experienced, more knowledgeable, but just a giant dumbass held hostage to his ego. So he would execute all these slick plans to do dumb shit. That kind of a guy will always be shit.

cjsdowg posted...

Nothing I stated was wrong. You are defended bull shit from the dems as usual. And nothing is short sided by pointing that they helped stablized the Republicans. Them fighting is a win for democrats.

Democrats aren't fighting for Republicans. That is what you said and it is wrong. They aren't stabilizing the Republicans. They are stabilizing the government at best, if you want to word it that way. You are very short sighted. Hell, under Johnson Republicans are losing seats with people just walking away. While Democrats still get some legislation they want done. Republicans fighting does not help Democrats right now(because they wouldn't be able to get anything passed) nor later, because people will vote out do nothing Dems. They like do nothing Republicans.

But I must apologize. I came in hot and hostile. Which is a douche move, and in no way helpful to an argument.

Diceheist posted...

The government didn't shut down, they passed continuing resolutions to keep the government open until a Speaker was chosen.

Sorry, I didn't mean shut down. I don't know why I worded it that way. I meant that the government essentially couldn't function. Not much could happen without a Speaker of the House, really.

ButteryMales posted...

More for Israel than Ukraine.

No. A clean Israel funding bill was DOA already. One without the funding swaps from other US programs. And Biden said if it somehow did get to his desk he would veto one. No funding for Israel without Ukraine and the other stuff. This was a sticking point for the Democrats.