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Nintendo hands down has the best and most exclusives. Hell, there was a point where they were releasing a new switch exclusive every month for a year+. The other companies have never done that lol

The term exclusives used to mean console exclusives, and everybody knew that. Computers didnt count.
Until Xbox was released, and Sony fanboys started to scream that some of Xbox exclusives were on PC as well, so they didnt count. Couldnt even have a topic about the game without them doing a driveby saying that you should play the game on PC instead.

Foppe posted...

The term exclusives used to mean console exclusives, and everybody knew that. Computers didnt count.
Until Xbox was released, and Sony fanboys started to scream that some of Xbox exclusives were on PC as well, so they didnt count. Couldnt even have a topic about the game without them doing a driveby saying that you should play the game on PC instead.

The guy arguing with me knows that too. Hes just being difficult and argumentative for the sake of it.

LonelyStoner posted...

The guy arguing with me knows that too. Hes just being difficult and argumentative for the sake of it.

Thats absolutely changed now though. Its easier than ever before to get a good PC and easily play these games. Games on PC and and console arent exclusive anymore. Thats just how it is.

Console exclusive is one thing, PS5 exclusive is another. The ps5 does not have many TRUE ps5 only exclusives and its totally fair to point that out.

LonelyStoner posted...

The guy arguing with me knows that too. Hes just being difficult and argumentative for the sake of it.

I dont care if you add in everything Sony has released on pc. Thats like 4 games anybody would give a crap about. This goes back to what I was saying WAAAY earlier in the topic. Sony interactive has nearly twice the employees Nintendo has. Does anybody really honestly think theres twice the better exclusives? Everybody wants Nintendo to either go all in console power or go third party. Theyre the only ones making money and not firing people nowadays.

ADW posted...

I dont care if you add in everything Sony has released on pc. Thats like 4 games anybody would give a crap about. This goes back to what I was saying WAAAY earlier in the topic. Sony interactive has nearly twice the employees Nintendo has. Does anybody really honestly think theres twice the better exclusives? Everybody wants Nintendo to either go all in console power or go third party. Theyre the only ones making money and not firing people nowadays.

I have a PS5 and a Switch, so I dont really care either way. Microsoft exclusives are far more inferior between those two. What do they have? Forza and Halo? MS is also struggling in the gaming department so I doubt they hang onto Bethesda for very long.

the only reason yall are trying to make this specifically about exclusives is thats all switch has

acting like XSX and ps5 dont have significantly more* games just because theyre all on other consoles

the problem with switch being underpowered is it means no one else wants to make big budget games for switch so you have to rely almost exclusively on what nintendo releases, and I dont think their output is cutting it anymore

*I know switch has more games technically if you count all the shovelware indie trash that clogs up the eshop; Im talking about major releases

TheGoldenEel posted...

the only reason yall are trying to make this specifically about exclusives is thats all switch has

acting like XSX and ps5 dont have significantly more* games just because theyre all on other consoles

the problem with switch being underpowered is it means no one else wants to make big budget games for switch so you have to rely almost exclusively on what nintendo releases, and I dont think their output is cutting it anymore

*I know switch has more games technically if you count all the shovelware indie trash that clogs up the eshop; Im talking about major releases

The ps5 and Xbox have very little differentiating them this gen, especially if you have a pc. Thats just a fact. I have a PS5 because i prefer the few exclusives it has, and im still easily able to admit this.

Nintendo lives and dies on its big IPs not being playable anywhere else. Its also not true that the switch has no third party support. Indies are fantastic on the switch most of the time.

The conversation is about exclusives because the switch is really the only console that has a large amount of exclusives anymore.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

The ps5 and Xbox have very little differentiating them this gen, especially if you have a pc. Thats just a fact. I have a PS5 because i prefer the few exclusives it has, and im still easily able to admit this.

Nintendo lives and dies on its big IPs not being playable anywhere else. Its also not true that the switch has no third party support. Indies are fantastic on the switch most of the time.

The conversation is about exclusives because the switch is really the only console that has a large amount of exclusives anymore.

Sony has far more quality big title exclusives than Microsoft.

LonelyStoner posted...

Sony has far more quality big title exclusives than Microsoft.

Many of which can be bought and played on PC, which is my point. Youre missing almost nothing this gen if you have a PC and a switch. It wasnt always like that.

There's been maybe 2 or 3 games this gen that made me actually feel like the jump from One/PS4 to X/PS5 was necessary. Most of the exclusives are still available on last gen consoles.

The smartest thing Nintendo ever did was get out of the power race. They're making games at a faster rate than the competition, they're arguably making better games as well. They're not closing down studios because they can't recoup $200mil losses from a game (which is fucking insane btw, budgets for games should not be that high).

There will be many hundreds of PS4 games released this year which is what the switch 2 will be comparable to. Sony has no games made by them that will be ready for PS5 until at least March 2025. Call PS4 outdated, but it still gets the lion share of games. No third party will have any excuse anymore with switch 2. If they do, then they need to be honest and just say they cant compete with Nintendo. If thats true, then Nintendo shouldnt change to follow other companies doing worse than them.

R_Jackal posted...

I was speaking strictly current gen games. Most of those are cross with last gen.

There's been very little reason to buy in to this gen at all, even though it's like 4 years in.

Tbf, isnt that how Sony always is. They usually release a system, and then release game for the current and last gen system concurrently for years

ADW posted...

I dont care if you add in everything Sony has released on pc. Thats like 4 games anybody would give a crap about.

Thats definitely just your opinion, though Many people have loved those games And Ive mostly heard good stuff

ADW posted...

Everybody wants Nintendo to either go all in console power or go third party. Theyre the only ones making money and not firing people nowadays.

While its probably a lot of people, its not everybody. For example, Im fine with what theyre doing

What I've taken from this topic is that apparently Nintendo should make a console that costs over a thousand dollars and has a half hour of battery life so that it can have a handheld that competes with PC specs. Because apparently that will be a smart business decision.

And if they won't do that, they should ditch the handheld market altogether. Sure, it was the entire reason the switch was as successful as it was, but fuck it. Grafix.

Conversely, they should just abandon their most successful product line and go third party, because some people want to count Mario's mustache hairs.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Many of which can be bought and played on PC, which is my point. Youre missing almost nothing this gen if you have a PC and a switch. It wasnt always like that.

Consoles are far cheaper than any decent PC and they dont take nearly as much effort to set up.

SAlYAN posted...

What I've taken from this topic is that apparently Nintendo should make a console that costs over a thousand dollars and has a half hour of battery life so that it can have a handheld that competes with PC specs. Because apparently that will be a smart business decision.

And if they won't do that, they should ditch the handheld market altogether. Sure, it was the entire reason the switch was as successful as it was, but fuck it. Grafix.

Conversely, they should just abandon their most successful product line and go third party, because some people want to count Mario's mustache hairs.

I dont really give a rats ass about the graphics. I think Nintendo focusing more on art style over realistic graphics is a smart and good thing. I just find the frame rates their games run at on their weak consoles completely unacceptable. Breath of the Wild frequently dropped below 20 FPS for me, and I find 30 completely unacceptable when I have control of circumstances. The game genuinely felt sluggish, and that made it a chore to play.

Legit. Will buy.

If Nintendo puts fun games in the palm of my hands with PS4 level graphics, I don't think I could ask for more. It's kind of mind boggling to me, to be honest.

TheGoldenEel posted...

the only reason yall are trying to make this specifically about exclusives is thats all switch has

Yeah, all the Switch has are games that people want to play that are only available on the Switch. Imagine getting a games console for the games.

Honestly, the method Nintendo's using with aged hardware is working well for them. So a stronger version of the Switch that still isn't as strong as PS5/XBS is pretty much all I wanted. Iwata back in the early 2000s saw the writing on the wall that chasing the highest fidelity graphics and highest performance would lead to an unsustainable future, and wow, look at what's happening with the AAA industry nowadays. It's becoming unsustainable due to inflated budgets and incredibly long dev cycles.

TheGoldenEel posted...

the only reason yall are trying to make this specifically about exclusives is thats all switch has

acting like XSX and ps5 dont have significantly more* games just because theyre all on other consoles

the problem with switch being underpowered is it means no one else wants to make big budget games for switch so you have to rely almost exclusively on what nintendo releases, and I dont think their output is cutting it anymore

*I know switch has more games technically if you count all the shovelware indie trash that clogs up the eshop; Im talking about major releases

And all those major AAA releases also go to PC. I mean, when the discussion is about Xbox vs Playstation then it all boils down to Playstation's exclusives too. That's not even talking about how modern AAA games are steadily falling out of style while indie games are getting more and more recognized. What a stupid post.

>implies the PS5 and XSX lacks shovelware

GiftedACIII posted...

And all those major AAA releases also go to PC. I mean, when the discussion is about Xbox vs Playstation then it all boils down to Playstation's exclusives too. That's not even talking about how modern AAA games are steadily falling out of style while indie games are getting more and more recognized. What a stupid post.

I dont understand why it matters that theyre going to PC as well. PC is still a platform you have to spend a lot of money on.

spend hundreds of dollars on PC/XSX/PS5: most AAA games, the limited exclusives for each platform, access most indie games, backwards compatible games for each platform, basically the entire catalofof the history of the previous consoles

spend hundreds of dollars on Nintendos console: a few Nintendo exclusives per year, most indie games, the occasional third party exclusive, a drip feed of catalog games nintendo decides to make available on their service

TheGoldenEel posted...

I dont understand why it matters that theyre going to PC as well. PC is still a platform you have to spend a lot of money on.

spend hundreds of dollars on PC/XSX/PS5: most AAA games, the limited exclusives for each platform, access most indie games, backwards compatible games for each platform, basically the entire catalofof the history of the previous consoles

spend hundreds of dollars on Nintendos console: a few Nintendo exclusives per year, most indie games, the occasional third party exclusive, a drip feed of catalog games nintendo decides to make available on their service

Keep on low balling the Nintendo systems there?

Baha05 posted...

Keep on low balling the Nintendo systems there?

What am I lowballing

EDIT: oh sorry, full price ports that Nintendo uses to pad the release schedule, forgot that one

TheGoldenEel posted...

What am I lowballing

EDIT: oh sorry, full price ports that Nintendo uses to pad the release schedule, forgot that one

Practically everything in terms of its support.

TheGoldenEel posted...

I dont understand why it matters that theyre going to PC as well. PC is still a platform you have to spend a lot of money on.

spend hundreds of dollars on PC/XSX/PS5: most AAA games, the limited exclusives for each platform, access most indie games, backwards compatible games for each platform, basically the entire catalofof the history of the previous consoles

spend hundreds of dollars on Nintendos console: a few Nintendo exclusives per year, most indie games, the occasional third party exclusive, a drip feed of catalog games nintendo decides to make available on their service

Because the PC is a very accessible platform most gamers have access to. There's a reason so many people claim Xbox exclusives going to PC have made it redundant. And now that Playstation is following that direction the same applies. The reason why people mainly talk about exclusives in these discussions should be common sense but I get you need to lose a bit of common sense when it comes to trying to present your favored platform in a better light than it has.

GiftedACIII posted...

Because the PC is a very accessible platform most gamers have access to. There's a reason so many people claim Xbox exclusives going to PC have made it redundant. And now that Playstation is following that direction the same applies. The reason why people mainly talk about exclusives in these discussions should be common sense but I get you need to lose a bit of common sense when it comes to trying to present your favored platform in a better light than it has.

I dont have a favored platform. I have the money to afford every platform and all I want is good games

(if anything I want nintendo to be my favored platform because when they actually put in effort they do make my favorite games)

a gaming PC is not something everyone just has, nor is it something that is a trivial amount of money. Its as much of a major purchase as a new console

TheGoldenEel posted...

I dont have a favored platform. I have the money to afford every platform and all I want is good games

(if anything I want nintendo to be my favored platform because when they actually put in effort they do make my favorite games)

a gaming PC is not something everyone just has, nor is it something that is a trivial amount of money. Its as much of a major purchase as a new console

You're clearly most partial to Playstation and anyone can see it. The idea that one needs ultra expensive dedicated gaming PC is also a tired fallacy. I've played on school laptops before.

TheGoldenEel posted...

I dont have a favored platform. I have the money to afford every platform and all I want is good games

(if anything I want nintendo to be my favored platform because when they actually put in effort they do make my favorite games)

a gaming PC is not something everyone just has, nor is it something that is a trivial amount of money. Its as much of a major purchase as a new console

Seems you have a bias to say the least there.

If all these rumors are true, it's all I want from a Switch 2 tbh. Nintendo and indies are the only ones who make games I have even the slightest interest in these days, so a slightly more powerful Switch is all I need. Oh, and a new Mario Kart. I will buy the console solely for that and Smash.

GiftedACIII posted...

You're clearly most partial to Playstation and anyone can see it. The idea that one needs ultra expensive dedicated gaming PC is also a tired fallacy. I've played on school laptops before.

you're of course under no obligation to click through the link in my sig but if you did you'd see I do most of my gaming on Switch and have more Nintendo games than any other console maker. In fact, I didn't even turn on my ps5 from May 2022-October 2023

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when other Nintendo fans post in here. They are clearly coasting, and milking their old games, and it's such a bummer to me that people settle for that

you can play all PS4/Xbone games on PS5/XSX, and they have have subscription services to play basically the entire catalog of PS1/PS2/PS3/PSP and Xbox/360 games and yet people get excited for nintendo porting a couple old games a year and occasionally adding NES-N64 games to their service?

I'm particularly salty about Switch ports of Wii U games as a day one Wii U owner. No $10 upgrades like the other guys, nope, if you want to play the Mario Kart 8 DLC (because they didn't even make a new one this gen!) you have to rebuy the game for full price and then buy the new DLC. Want to play 5 hours of new Mario content? Buy Super Mario 3D World again for full price

Nintendo have so many franchises and they've barely touched any of them this gen. They made "next gen" feeling entries in the Mario and Zelda franchises and then nearly everything else has gotten by-the-numbers sequels or lazy ports/remakes

i just hope they've been working on something to surprise us all for switch 2

TheGoldenEel posted...

you're of course under no obligation to click through the link in my sig but if you did you'd see I do most of my gaming on Switch and have more Nintendo games than any other console maker. In fact, I didn't even turn on my ps5 from May 2022-October 2023

Conversely, looking at your backlog, you haven't explored the PC much. You can equally argue that spending $1000~2000 on a perfectly adequate PC now is significantly superior to getting a PS5 or an XSex. For one thing, they do far more than what any consoles can do, for another, there's never an issue with backlog or shortage of future games. They can also just outperform the PS5/XSex, and they basically will for the entire duration of their lifecycle.

So why don't the PS/Xbox brand pull out consoles that are also $1000~2000 to compete with the PCs?

See, like you're conveniently leaving out the value of niches that Nintendo consoles give that made the Switch sell well despite the misgivings that many people have mentioned throughout this shit thread. The logic goes, when something consistently sells well, and people keep wanting the next iteration, it's doing more things right than it does wrong, but for you personally, you think everything is wrong.

You'll buy the next console anyways, so why should they fulfill all of your demands, even if it means it potentially ruins their niche and more people may dislike how the cost of things have risen and the time of development further pushed back?

You won't mention how the Switch had a very steady stream of releases throughout its entire life, whereas development time for other consoles for their major titles have gone up even more years now, often announcing things that will release a year or two later.

To make it even worse, they may not even be good games after waiting years for them.

TheGoldenEel posted...

you're of course under no obligation to click through the link in my sig but if you did you'd see I do most of my gaming on Switch and have more Nintendo games than any other console maker. In fact, I didn't even turn on my ps5 from May 2022-October 2023

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when other Nintendo fans post in here. They are clearly coasting, and milking their old games, and it's such a bummer to me that people settle for that

you can play all PS4/Xbone games on PS5/XSX, and they have have subscription services to play basically the entire catalog of PS1/PS2/PS3/PSP and Xbox/360 games and yet people get excited for nintendo porting a couple old games a year and occasionally adding NES-N64 games to their service?

I'm particularly salty about Switch ports of Wii U games as a day one Wii U owner. No $10 upgrades like the other guys, nope, if you want to play the Mario Kart 8 DLC (because they didn't even make a new one this gen!) you have to rebuy the game for full price and then buy the new DLC. Want to play 5 hours of new Mario content? Buy Super Mario 3D World again for full price

Nintendo have so many franchises and they've barely touched any of them this gen. They made "next gen" feeling entries in the Mario and Zelda franchises and then nearly everything else has gotten by-the-numbers sequels or lazy ports/remakes

i just hope they've been working on something to surprise us all for switch 2

You can say that all you like but your behavior says otherwise. You haven't turned on your PS5 for an entire year yet they aren't coasting and milking their old games with by-the-number sequels like Ragnarok and SM2 and lazy ports/remakes? At least most Nintendo ports/remakes actually add new gameplay content unlike Playstation's which remove content. How's that TLOU Factions doing? Mario and Zelda are the only games that feel next gen? You yourself have rated Kirby Forgotten Land, Fire Emblem Three Houses, and Metroid Dread as 5 star and they were huge leaps for their respective franchises. Stuff like Animal Crossing, Smash Ultimate, Splatoon, Pikmin, Xenoblade all had a huge boost for their franchises too. Even Pokemon Legends Arceus is a pretty bold step for Pokemon. Don't even talk about untouched franchises. Nintendo is the best of the three by far in recognizing their oldest franchises.

Of course you avoid bringing up the PC when talking about BC and subscriptions. The Xbox's gamerpass is better than Playstation's PSN and arguably so is Xbox's online in general. That still isn't helping it much to general gamers who see it as currently in a terrible position. Why? Because exclusives. Exclusives have always been the heart of these discussions but Playstation advocates always suddenly want to shift from that into talking about stuff like BC and online when discussing Nintendo. Wonder why.

Anyway I won't deny that the Switch has been aging... but that's because it's in its ending years. Meanwhile, the other systems should be in their prime but their current states leave a lot to desire.

GiftedACIII posted...

You're clearly most partial to Playstation and anyone can see it. The idea that one needs ultra expensive dedicated gaming PC is also a tired fallacy. I've played on school laptops before.

Ive had some games that ran pretty poorly on my laptop. So, either those werent the games that needed a lot of power to run, or your school have really good laptops. My school didnt, but its been a while since Ive been in school, so

legendarylemur posted...

You can equally argue that spending $1000~2000 on a perfectly adequate PC now is significantly superior to getting a PS5 or an XSex. For one thing, they do far more than what any consoles can do, for another, there's never an issue with backlog or shortage of future games. They can also just outperform the PS5/XSex, and they basically will for the entire duration of their lifecycle.

Idk about others, but for me, the problem there is the money. The cost is pretty high, and I wouldnt have enough for it Which is why I currently dont have a working one (or gaming laptop, which would be far more useful for me)

LinkPizza posted...

Idk about others, but for me, the problem there is the money. The cost is pretty high, and I wouldnt have enough for it Which is why I currently dont have a working one (or gaming laptop, which would be far more useful for me)

Its both that (well, I could swing for more expensive PC if I truly wanted to, but I genuinely do not want to. I rather put that kind of money into a nice TV, which I did. That and car maintenance, lol), and "doing far more than what any consoles can do" is pretty irrelevant to the vast majority of gamers out there.....at the end of the day, its as simple as just wanting to play the newest releases. Its the reason we still have so many PS4 and xbox one gamers out there since PS4 ports of the newest games still have yet to truly dry up yet. *Its getting there bit by bit with newer games not being released on previous gen consoles, but godspeed to those hanging on to that PS4 or xbox one for 11 years now.*

I have a PC that is decent enough with playing video games myself, but I honestly haven't bothered with modding anything in years at this point. I do occasionally fire up a emulator for some classic gaming, but the playtime for older games is nowhere near the amount I am playing more recent releases on the PS5 and switch.

*To tell you the truth, 95 percent of the time I'm on my PC like right now I am browsing the net and reading articles, posting here, playing crime videos while I am eating or having music playing in the background while I am on the TV doing something else. The other 5 is playing a indie game on steam. Thankfully these kind of games actually doesn't require much investment to run*

More power to the people who heavily invest in a gaming PC for sure, but for someone like me I'm completely satisfied buying my 1 or 2 gameboxes 500 something and using that for the next 6 or 7 years, gameboxes I know for sure will run every single game or rarely have to deal with shitty ports like the PC has to deal with at times. (I have a series X thanks to my bro hooking me up with it, but since I have it it'll be the thing I'll use whenever that once in a blue moon xbox console exclusive game pops up). My older PC and steam deck are nice options to have to catch those steam games that isn't ported anywhere else, and I am completely satisfied leaving it at that.

Mad-Dogg posted...

Its both that (well, I could swing for more expensive PC if I truly wanted to, but I genuinely do not want to. I rather put that kind of money into a nice TV, which I did. That and car maintenance, lol), and "doing far more than what any consoles can do" is pretty irrelevant to the vast majority of gamers out there.....at the end of the day, its as simple as just wanting to play the newest releases. Its the reason we still have so many PS4 and xbox one gamers out there since PS4 ports of the newest games still have yet to truly dry up yet. *Its getting there bit by bit with newer games not being released on previous gen consoles, but godspeed to those hanging on to that PS4 or xbox one for 11 years now.*

I have a PC that is decent enough with playing video games myself, but I honestly haven't bothered with modding anything in years at this point. I do occasionally fire up a emulator for some classic gaming, but the playtime for older games is nowhere near the amount I am playing more recent releases on the PS5 and switch.

*To tell you the truth, 95 percent of the time I'm on my PC like right now I am browsing the net and reading articles, posting here, playing crime videos while I am eating or having music playing in the background while I am on the TV doing something else. The other 5 is playing a indie game on steam. Thankfully these kind of games actually doesn't require much investment to run*

More power to the people who heavily invest in a gaming PC for sure, but for someone like me I'm completely satisfied buying my 1 or 2 gameboxes 500 something and using that for the next 6 or 7 years, gameboxes I know for sure will run every single game or rarely have to deal with shitty ports like the PC has to deal with at times. (I have a series X thanks to my bro hooking me up with it, but since I have it it'll be the thing I'll use whenever that once in a blue moon xbox console exclusive game pops up). My older PC and steam deck are nice options to have to catch those steam games that isn't ported anywhere else, and I am completely satisfied leaving it at that.

Yeah. I like steam, but my switch and whichever other system (probably PS-whatever) is usually good enough. And most indie games, I usually want to play on Switch, anyway

And when my laptop was in good working condition, I was usually doing something other than gaming (usually YouTube or whatever) While a good gaming PC or laptop might be useful, its not needed Especially with the cost

Charged151 posted...

Wonder if we can communicate with random people finally online without jumping through hoops. No one uses that stupid phone option.

Yeah, please. There was no need for that.

Buy a Switch then pay full price for indies when they are usually cheaper on Steam...

tripleh213 posted...

Buy a Switch then pay full price for indies when they are usually cheaper on Steam...

They go on sale. And when not on sale, cost the same price that it usually does on steam Plus, easier to take around and play on the go with a switch I can easily play my switch at work. The laptop would be harder Plus, the battery life I think the trade-off is worth it. Its not the same for everyone, though

legendarylemur posted...

Conversely, looking at your backlog, you haven't explored the PC much. You can equally argue that spending $1000~2000 on a perfectly adequate PC now is significantly superior to getting a PS5 or an XSex. For one thing, they do far more than what any consoles can do, for another, there's never an issue with backlog or shortage of future games. They can also just outperform the PS5/XSex, and they basically will for the entire duration of their lifecycle.

So why don't the PS/Xbox brand pull out consoles that are also $1000~2000 to compete with the PCs?

See, like you're conveniently leaving out the value of niches that Nintendo consoles give that made the Switch sell well despite the misgivings that many people have mentioned throughout this shit thread. The logic goes, when something consistently sells well, and people keep wanting the next iteration, it's doing more things right than it does wrong, but for you personally, you think everything is wrong.

You'll buy the next console anyways, so why should they fulfill all of your demands, even if it means it potentially ruins their niche and more people may dislike how the cost of things have risen and the time of development further pushed back?

You won't mention how the Switch had a very steady stream of releases throughout its entire life, whereas development time for other consoles for their major titles have gone up even more years now, often announcing things that will release a year or two later.

To make it even worse, they may not even be good games after waiting years for them.

This. These guys need to finally grow up and stop crying over Nintendo, it doesn't make them men and it doesn't even make any sense.

ADW posted...

There will be many hundreds of PS4 games released this year which is what the switch 2 will be comparable to. Sony has no games made by them that will be ready for PS5 until at least March 2025. Call PS4 outdated, but it still gets the lion share of games. No third party will have any excuse anymore with switch 2. If they do, then they need to be honest and just say they cant compete with Nintendo. If thats true, then Nintendo shouldnt change to follow other companies doing worse than them.

They never could compete either. Look at the first party Switch games, they're the ones that have good graphics and are mostly non buggy on the Switch. Pretty much Pokmon is low effort and not much in Nintendo's control. Third party devs need to make a more compelling game on Nintendo consoles because the standard is not unfinished games that require several patches or years of reworking. It's worth it too, with the large userbase. It's funny Activision apparently realized this a few years ago hence them getting cozy on development for the Switch successor in 2021.

LinkPizza posted...

They go on sale. And when not on sale, cost the same price that it usually does on steam Plus, easier to take around and play on the go with a switch I can easily play my switch at work. The laptop would be harder Plus, the battery life I think the trade-off is worth it. Its not the same for everyone, though

Let guys like this cry and send them a link to Switch software sales charts.

Fony posted...

Let guys like this cry and send them a link to Switch software sales charts.

No need to send me a chart of anything, nor is there any crying. I never said they go on sale often. I just said they sometimes go on sale. Ive gotten stuff on sale before Like around Christmas and stuff

LinkPizza posted...

Ive had some games that ran pretty poorly on my laptop. So, either those werent the games that needed a lot of power to run, or your school have really good laptops. My school didnt, but its been a while since Ive been in school, so

Well I wasn't playing Crysis or super competitive games but I was able to play games like left 4 dead, resident evil, and dark souls which I feel is about what most casual core gamers play.