Current Events > From Trad Wife to Sad Wife: the Story of Lauren Southern

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Humble_Novice
05/10/24 1:35:53 PM
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https://web.archive.org/web/20240507141702/https://unherd.com/2024/05/lauren-southern-the-tradlife-influencer-filled-with-regret/

I'm sure some of you remember this woman, right?

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pauIie
05/10/24 1:36:32 PM
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i do not feel sorry her one bit.

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IronChef_Kirby
05/10/24 1:41:15 PM
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I was just thinking about Racist Barbie the other day randomly. I indeed had not heard her come up in quite a while. I preferred it that way.

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Tyranthraxus
05/10/24 1:42:23 PM
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Is this the female Andrew Tate or am I thinking of another dumb ass?

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ScazarMeltex
05/10/24 1:43:37 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Is this the female Andrew Tate or am I thinking of another dumb ass?
There are several. There's also H Pearl Davis.

Either way, this is a serious case of Leopards eating faces, so fuck her.

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Prestoff
05/10/24 1:48:48 PM
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I'm just about 4 paragraphs into the article, but it does sound super interesting. It's giving me "nuance centrist" vibes and probably going to discuss why the extremes of "trad wife" and "independent women that need no man" route is wrong and should not be viewed as the ultimate road to take. It seems like a long read, something I'll be doing on my break.

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creativerealms
05/10/24 1:49:55 PM
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She was a strong independent woman who realized that she lost all her freedom by getting what she wanted.

Tyranthraxus posted...
Is this the female Andrew Tate or am I thinking of another dumb ass?

No her gimmick was more being an "honest reporter" while being incredibly bias and dishonest.

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masterpug53
05/10/24 1:50:28 PM
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Sounds like she's still the same awful person just with the 'tradwife' peddling removed.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
05/10/24 1:55:01 PM
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Sadly learning by experience

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TimeForAction
05/10/24 1:55:18 PM
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I think Lauren Southern first started the I identify as an attack helicopter line that conservatives find to be knee slapping hilarious
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Strider102
05/10/24 1:57:02 PM
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If it isn't the consequences of thy own actions.

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luigi33
05/10/24 1:57:26 PM
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I have 0 sympathy.

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Sad_Face
05/10/24 3:04:44 PM
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This one comment echoed my sentiments.

"What makes ideologies different from traditions is being one-dimensional extract of a broad ecology of traditional values and institutes. So for instance in this case Lauren maybe wasnt entirely wrong going tradwife but the trad-ecosystem was missing in this equation, so the vetting by elders, shared community, land connection, common religious practice seemed to be missing in this situation. Its not like traditional communities are lacking assholes but he wouldve been disciplined into a tolerable level of assholeness. Sort of Italian mafia style but it could be liveable at least."

The thing is with a number of behavioral beliefs (any variant of I believe that people should do X or Y) to be put into practice, they need a community and society in agreement at large because there needs to be an incentive and accountability system to make sure people are motivated to do the right thing and not abuse their positions. Southern apparently built up her own community on her beliefs but the males it attracted were generally opportunists looking to capitalize on free labor. Then her husband took her out of her community to live in another country. There's no one to hold him accountable for his actions, no framework to look out for her like the commenter mentioned.

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BewmHedshot
05/10/24 3:11:25 PM
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The obvious problem with 'tradwives' is that conservative men don't actually want feminine nurturing domestic partners, they want cooks and maids.
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Wrath_Of_Spiral
05/10/24 3:18:24 PM
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I didn't read it so apologies but... wasn't the whole appeal behind the tradwives thing, "Jobs, bills, and labor-intensive housework suck... I'd rather get married, cook, clean, and take care of kids because it's nowhere near as stressful"?

Guessing she wound up finding it equally stressful after a few years?
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ThePieReborn
05/10/24 3:25:05 PM
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While my initial knee jerk reaction was Dennis's "You dumb bitch" line, I wouldn't wish on anyone a spouse like hers. JFC, that dude is a craven piece of shit.

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Prototypic
05/10/24 5:02:12 PM
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Couldn't make it all the way through the article, taking pot shots at "liberal feminism" in an article about how shitty the tradwife life is, not to mention casting Lauren Southern as some sort of hero fighting the good fight while breezing past accountability for spreading this kind of nonsense, made it hard to take seriously.

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pinky0926
05/10/24 5:10:40 PM
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Sad_Face posted...
This one comment echoed my sentiments.

The thing is with a number of behavioral beliefs (any variant of I believe that people should do X or Y) to be put into practice, they need a community and society in agreement at large because there needs to be an incentive and accountability system to make sure people are motivated to do the right thing and not abuse their positions. Southern apparently built up her own community on her beliefs but the males it attracted were generally opportunists looking to capitalize on free labor. Then her husband took her out of her community to live in another country. There's no one to hold him accountable for his actions, no framework to look out for her like the commenter mentioned.

I have you tagged as a qanon supporter. Is that wrong?

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DrPrimemaster
05/10/24 5:16:46 PM
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Her story of being so right wing, joining right wing media, getting sexually harassed and then blackballed from the community, then all of the problems she had with her husband, then she goes and lives in a trailer park for a while cause she gave most of her money to her husband to save the relationship, then she kind of comes out of it.

And then she didn't learn anything from the experience and is basically the same. It was just so disappointing.

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DoesntMatter
05/10/24 5:18:44 PM
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"for me, becoming a mum meant giving up on a great deal of the liberal ideology Id embraced when younger because it was impossible to square with the embodied reality of caring for a baby. "

stopped reading right there because this is a load of horseshit. you don't need to "give up" any liberal ideology in order to raise a child, what the fuck?

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bigbadharry
05/10/24 5:58:24 PM
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Damn she married steven crowder?

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008Zulu
05/10/24 6:05:22 PM
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Yet she is still with the alt-reich.

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sfcalimari
05/10/24 6:07:46 PM
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Anyone like her who openly spreads white genocide conspiracy theory crap can go to hell.

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TimeForAction
05/10/24 6:11:33 PM
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DoesntMatter posted...
"for me, becoming a mum meant giving up on a great deal of the liberal ideology Id embraced when younger because it was impossible to square with the embodied reality of caring for a baby. "

stopped reading right there because this is a load of horseshit. you don't need to "give up" any liberal ideology in order to raise a child, what the fuck?


people have stupid beliefs when theyre younger and then realize it was stupid

how could they
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Agent_Stroud
05/10/24 6:16:11 PM
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Good riddance to bad rubbish. Now if a certain loudmouthed governor with violent tendencies towards livestock and pets can get lost, Id be quite happy.

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CSCA33
05/10/24 6:18:08 PM
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DoesntMatter posted...
"for me, becoming a mum meant giving up on a great deal of the liberal ideology Id embraced when younger because it was impossible to square with the embodied reality of caring for a baby. "

stopped reading right there because this is a load of horseshit. you don't need to "give up" any liberal ideology in order to raise a child, what the fuck?
These people seem to have only the barest of paper thin understanding of anything and just lick it and stick it on whatever narrative they want

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DoesntMatter
05/10/24 6:19:27 PM
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TimeForAction posted...
people have stupid beliefs when theyre younger and then realize it was stupid

how could they
are you saying that the writer of the article was correct in that you can't embrace liberal ideology and be a mother at the same time?

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CSCA33
05/10/24 6:24:45 PM
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DoesntMatter posted...
are you saying that the writer of the article was correct in that you can't embrace liberal ideology and be a mother at the same time?
That user is how shall I say anti-liberal

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mistymermaid
05/10/24 6:37:46 PM
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BewmHedshot posted...
The obvious problem with 'tradwives' is that conservative men don't actually want feminine nurturing domestic partners, they want cooks and maids.

Right. They'll let a more-or-less 'pretty face' parrot their views for a while. But we all know where they think women belong.

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mybbqrules
05/10/24 6:39:40 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
I have you tagged as a qanon supporter. Is that wrong?
I've had them tagged as a pizzagater for a long time now.

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specialkid8
05/10/24 6:55:36 PM
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DoesntMatter posted...
"for me, becoming a mum meant giving up on a great deal of the liberal ideology Id embraced when younger because it was impossible to square with the embodied reality of caring for a baby. "

stopped reading right there because this is a load of horseshit. you don't need to "give up" any liberal ideology in order to raise a child, what the fuck?
The author mentions several times she was into hippie sex commune shit. She's not saying, like, socialized healthcare isn't compatible with motherhood.

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CSCA33
05/10/24 7:14:05 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
The author mentions several times she was into hippie sex commune shit. She's not saying, like, socialized healthcare isn't compatible with motherhood.
Conservatives do that stuff too, they just call it swinging instead

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CSCA33
05/10/24 7:23:05 PM
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so in other words, its more like the conservative perspective or how they imagine liberalism is supposed to be, shunning morals and family values. A big ol sack of horse manure except less useful

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thronedfire2
05/10/24 7:24:06 PM
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all Trad wives are probably sad on the inside

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Notti
05/13/24 7:57:53 AM
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Ahyuck.

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Humble_Novice
05/14/24 5:01:07 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
all Trad wives are probably sad on the inside
At least sad beige moms express their sadness through weird decor choice.

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