Board 8 > Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion

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Enchantress
05/10/24 6:00:01 PM
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A covert meeting of the world's most diabolical organization, the Department of Education, was currently taking place on a storm blackened night, amidst howling, cursed winds, at the rented conference room of the local Holiday Inn. The Education General stood at the head of the table, wildly gesticulating at a map of Greendale Community College, their latest campaign. A bizarre school, which taught no recognizable curriculum, and was technically zoned for shoe repair only. A school veering dangerously out of their control.

"Friends, I have the latest news from those radicals at Greendale Community College. It appears that their student body has become radicalized enough to reject our nation's greatest heroes, fast food. They've exploded a Subway," the General reported somberly.

"Actually, Sir, I said they exploded in Subway. It turns out that romantic entanglements are unavoidable when you anthropomorphize anything," clarified an embarrassed looking intern.

"...For God's sake, Raoul, what are you, like 34? And still an unpaid intern, due to shoddy unclear memos no doubt, harumph," snorted the General with disdain, and a mental note to google some things later in the night. "The point is, what originally appeared to start as a harmless death game may in fact be more sinister than we thought. Several of our undercover operatives have been tracked down and eliminated. While true that most of the deceased are total innocents, it could be that their administrator is on to us. This whole "game" might just be an excuse to clean house. I mean, what even is "priority registration" anyway?"

The Education Colonel cleared his throat and stood up. "We know that dear, sweet, precious Subway is not to blame for this. His chicken may not have contained enough protein to be legally called meat, but neither did it contain enough plastic to be legally called a frisbee. I think that all the good, moral students appreciated Subway's Healthy Flavour Fiesta" and "Low Low Prices."

"We know they appreciated his five dollar foot long," muttered an intern sullenly in the corner. He had been in charge of watching spy footage.

"Yes, yes, we all enjoy Eating Fresh and Feeling Good," agreed the general as he slapped the Subway brand Subway Sandwich Board which served as their meeting table.

"But to determine the true cause, my men have managed to capture one of these so called "Greendale Students" for interrogation. Bring him in the subject, boys."

Mzero slowly shuffled into the conference room, despite his back being bowed with age he appeared youthful and spritely thanks to his toque, Music!Band hoodie and skateboard.

"How do you do, fellow kids?"

"Mzero, it was nave of you to think we'd mistake the Town's most prominent 104 year old man for one of this community college's elementary school students."

"No, it's me Taco. I was like this the whole time, baka," Mzero countered defiantly. "Just because I go to sleep at 1 pm every day doesn't mean I'm some kind of jiji."

"Whatever. Tell us, how are your comrades deciding who to execute in this little schoolyard massacre game of yours. Killing off good, kind capitalist mascots? Deeming them "Evil" ? Ensuring you and your little red commie-rades can rise up and infect other schools?"

"Only one of my friends is Red, and to be honest he's been quite rude recently! Like...you! You clods!"

"Shut up Mzero, you look like a German puppet and smell like the inside of a church," snarled the Education Admiral.

"wat ever. I know you ate all the macaroni."

The general waved his hand in impatience. "Enough of this. I've executed men for less, more, and now for this exact amount. He's useless. Take him out back and feed him to the Biohazards."

The Board of Education goons streamed towards Mzero, who fell and died of a broken hip before he could be thrown into the snarling, raving pit off in the distance. The admiral stared off into the distance, haunted.

"...I did eat all the macaroni. It's messed up that he knows."

MZero has died. He was:

"Shut up, Leonard, I know about your prescription socks!"

You are Leonard, TOWN Taunter.

An omnipresent oldman whos always nearby and ready to heckle. Mostly Jeff, but who among us hasnt had the opportunity to yell shut up Leonard, I know about (weird niche thing) in our lives?

At night, you may attempt to target a player. If successful, until the next night phase, any action they perform will now target you instead of their original target.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

Enrolled:
1. Ben
2. Blade
3. Chang
4. Ctes
5. Death
6. FD
7. IGCD
8. Kirby
9. MI
10. Red
11. Ulti

Expelled:
[LD1] Knightz - Evil Abed, MAFIA Roleblocking Rolecop Dreamateer
[LD2] Wallz - Evil Annie, MAFIA Framing Doppelganger
[KN2] Isquen - Garret, TOWN Vanilla
[LD3] Corrik - Quendra, TOWN Vanilla
[KN3] Sbell - Annie Edison, TOWN Forensics Investigator
[LD4] Peaf - Subway, TOWN Vanilla
[KN4] Mzero (Taco) - Leonard, TOWN Taunter

Vanished:
[VD1] Lopen - ???

It is now Day Five. With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day ends Sunday, May 12th at 6 PM EST.

You may now post.

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TotallyNotMI
05/10/24 6:03:54 PM
#3:


##Vote: Red

that eod had me salty

Good job mzero

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Meow1000
05/10/24 6:04:00 PM
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There I was really having to make a decision there and MZero stopped it anyway ok then.

Also Death's Ben vote make my hackles raise big time. Felt like it came out of absolutely nowhere and then when he quickly switched to Peaf my entire read of the situation changed. As much as I've townread Death for day 2, that vote instantly felt like scum trying to push a town Ben train.

I can't really stay because I'm about to do Synagogue things.

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TotallyNotMI
05/10/24 6:05:25 PM
#5:


Town
Chang
Kirby
Blade

Scum
Red
Death
Ben? This is the one I'm less sure of

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TotallyNotMI
05/10/24 6:06:14 PM
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I'm also very busy tonight but will be around as much as I can

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Meow1000
05/10/24 6:08:34 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
I almost scanned him, too. Glad I didnt! Good job MZero. Hopefully you dropped hints yesterday.

I also have excellent news :)

But before we get to that, I need everyone to list 3 town and 3 scum. FD, are you cool with logging it again in your thing?
Ben's "neighborhood" will tell us who MZero targeted. He didn't need to drop hints.

Of course the can of worms it opens up if that person ends up flipping town is uh... Yeah it basically means that "neighborhood" be broken for sure.

I remember Chang was in it but wasn't Death also in it and why did he suddenly vote Ben if he was.

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PunishedBen
05/10/24 6:09:05 PM
#8:


Alright, I feel like I accidentally derailed the Red lynch yesterday and I now regret it. Once I actually had time to READ the long Red post, I have questions. I thought it was good at first glance because it looked like he was sharing thoughts on his way out. Something i dont expect scum Red to do as he would shut up if his lynch was inevitable. But I found that the post wasnt as conclusive as I assumed.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/51217345.png
"As someone that has nailed my head on a pike as scum with good reason, this has been weak."

Should MI be nailing you harder if you are in fact not scum??? If you're town then why read him this way as not lynching you hard enough?

And smaller nitpick,but why did you word it as "Game state says i should want to lynch Peaf or MI". As opposed to you wanting to lynch Peaf or MI?

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Meow1000
05/10/24 6:09:13 PM
#9:


TotallyNotMI posted...
Town
Chang
Kirby
Blade

Scum
Red
Death
Ben? This is the one I'm less sure of
No way in hell is Death bold enough to bus Ben there.

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Kirby321
05/10/24 6:09:31 PM
#11:


And I'm alive again. Wtf.

Scum is making a mockery of me. Which I suppose is fair since I didn't stop the kill tonight, either >_>

I'll withhold my jail until everyone reports in for the night. Which I suppose is just Ulti, Ben, and Blade. Maybe Ctes if he wants to claim. And I guess FD, too.

Though can I get an F for my boy IGCD who got screwed out of the ultimate Corrik-slaying power once again. Seriously, that end of the day was absolutely freaking stupid.

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Meow1000
05/10/24 6:10:09 PM
#12:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Thank you sir!

Blade?
Is there any reason for me to reveal who I protected in the end?

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changmas
05/10/24 6:10:19 PM
#13:


Town
Kirby
IGCD
Blade

Scum
Death
MI
Ben (3p?)

i'm personally of the opinion that there are only two more scum

though I'd swap death for ctes if ctes has a bad claim, presuming ulti's clears can be trusted

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changmas
05/10/24 6:11:26 PM
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Meow1000 posted...
Ben's "neighborhood" will tell us who MZero targeted. He didn't need to drop hints.

Of course the can of worms it opens up if that person ends up flipping town is uh... Yeah it basically means that "neighborhood" be broken for sure.

I remember Chang was in it but wasn't Death also in it and why did he suddenly vote Ben if he was.

oh it's not an ongoing neighborhood btw

i can't see anything from nights that aren't night 1

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Kirby321
05/10/24 6:11:43 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
I need everyone to list 3 town and 3 scum. FD, are you cool with logging it again in your thing?

Town
Me
Chang
Ben
(Blade)

Scum
Red
Red
Red
Red
Probably Death
Idk MI or something?

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PunishedBen
05/10/24 6:12:18 PM
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I also thought I was going to be able to be here in the final hour and pressure the other two people after my Unvote and maybe even determine Red was still the best lynch at the end of the day. But then I got stuck with work stuff. And i knew I was only getting more stuff piled up, So seeing Red make that post made me panick and i didnt want to do nothing and let town die.... but I'm now thinking I was stupid to fall for that post

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Meow1000
05/10/24 6:12:25 PM
#18:


Oh. I thought you guys were just in one big chat room this entire time.

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Kirby321
05/10/24 6:12:48 PM
#19:


I swear Ulti if you say you scanned someone besides Red, you might be the worst Cop in the history of B8 Mafia

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changmas
05/10/24 6:13:37 PM
#21:


wat

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changmas
05/10/24 6:14:05 PM
#22:


i'm supposed to believe scum has a second roleblocker

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PunishedBen
05/10/24 6:15:16 PM
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Meow1000 posted...
Oh. I thought you guys were just in one big chat room this entire time.
Nah its one per night and i cant neighbor the same person on subsequent nights. So I did Kirby tonight, expecting him to be the obvious night kill and be able to tell the rest of the game who he roleblocked.... but of course now Mzero is dead. He either taunted it, or they targeted him before Kirby on purpose just to get around me, since i couldnt neighbor Mzero last night and wont be able to neighbor again Kirby tonight ....

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changmas
05/10/24 6:16:07 PM
#25:


i'm supposed to believe scum has a passive ability that roleblocks

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Meow1000
05/10/24 6:16:48 PM
#26:


Kirby321 posted...
I swear Ulti if you say you scanned someone besides Red, you might be the worst Cop in the history of B8 Mafia
Ulti is straight up claiming a scum scan so

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was on MI just because he's really been trying to ego trip about the votes on day 1.

A proper scumlist waits until Death explains where the hell that Ben vote came from because I can't remember the last time my read on someone flipped that fast

Kirby is the only person in the game I am comfortable really calling town

Ben and Death aren't scum together after that vote (and I find it weird that MI put them together)

MI/Red do make a fairly natural scum pairing I admit.

But also I'm out of time see you in like 3 hours

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IfGodCouldDie
05/10/24 6:17:02 PM
#27:


Before I read anything I just want to say I hate you all.

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Kirby321
05/10/24 6:17:22 PM
#28:


Ulti, who did you target? I don't see the point in keeping this suspense longer.

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Meow1000
05/10/24 6:19:38 PM
#32:


Ps any scumteam with an active roleblock blocks me and kills ulti if ulti is town and then tries to lynch me so I doubt any block would brvsdyiv

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changmas
05/10/24 6:20:01 PM
#33:


it depends on who it's on, but i'll hear it out for now.

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TotallyNotMI
05/10/24 6:20:54 PM
#34:


Oh maybe it's just ulti as the third if he is going to claim I passively blocked him
Ben/death don't make sense together that's a fair thought I just don't have a third person I feel strongly about right now

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PunishedBen
05/10/24 6:20:55 PM
#35:


Well, when Kirby asked me if I thought Ulti was scum I said no way. So.... don't blame me if that's what happened lol

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changmas
05/10/24 6:23:29 PM
#38:


kirby you don't have to say who you roleblocked just say whether it was or was not ulti let's get this show moving

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PunishedBen
05/10/24 6:24:14 PM
#39:


And to be clear I don't know exactly who Kirby blocked yet - he gave me a secret message to decode and I was gonna post it here before trying to figure it out. But since he's alive I'll wait for him to reveal

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Kirby321
05/10/24 6:30:56 PM
#41:


All right, I'll fold. Yes, I jailed Ulti last night.

Suffice to say, there were multiple factors that led me to take the calculated risk of jailing the claimed Town Cop:

  1. Ctes built a convincing case on Ulti potentially lying about his role and stealing Lopen's instead
  2. There's a likelihood that scum claimed power to avoid my roleblock
  3. Ulti is exactly the kind of scum player to do a wild gambit hedged on "Kirby isn't stupid enough to jail the claimed Cop" and fully insist on being the one to deliver the kill because of it
  4. Ulti was the first person to start the special on Ben that also screwed IGCD out of a power up and saved Red
  5. On the chance I was wrong, point #2 would ultra confirm Ulti as not the killer. And given point #3, scum Ulti wouldn't have a reason to suddenly switch to some other scum delivering the kill last night. Ergo, the likelihood of Ulti being town shoots way up, putting a damper on the distracting conspiracy theories that would lead to scum Ulti.
So either I got major outplayed and gave scum Ulti a massive buff... or yeah Ulti is actually legit the Town Cop.

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IfGodCouldDie
05/10/24 6:31:03 PM
#42:


Ok Ulti,

Town
Kirby(easy)
Chang(refuse to believe his ability is scum)
Ctes(him continually losing his vote fits with the targets scum seem to be hitting)

Scum
Ben(even though I still haven't seen "the post")
Red(clear attempt to save Red yesterday in all the commotion)
Ulti(I'm starting to think your scans are fake and you've been pumping up my tires to fill me with false confidence for my shot)

I haven't put into much thought into how these scum would be as a team this game and it is based solely on their individual play.


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PunishedBen
05/10/24 6:36:18 PM
#43:


And that was the last time we ever heard of Ulti

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Kirby321
05/10/24 6:36:37 PM
#44:


So in a sense, we got an inno Cop scan on Ulti. Whether that's valuable or not, I don't know. But unless someone can find a hole in my argument, Ulti has ascended to ultra-confirmed town.

Amending my town list to Chang, Ulti, and Ben. I didn't want to give myself away on the off chance Ulti was a non-acting scum and claimed a scan. Which is where I had initially been thinking he was going to with his first post

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PunishedBen
05/10/24 6:37:32 PM
#45:


Roleblocking him was an unessccary move when there are so many things that can ultra confirm him scum or town.... like getting a guilty scan today!

But oh well, I believe both parties are town and we have to move on from it

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changmas
05/10/24 6:38:35 PM
#46:


can we just say fuck it and kill death

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d140c0c0.png

he told us to lynch peaf then left, after deciding red was town. therefore here's what i've got for mzero's night target, if he did in fact redirect the kill to himself (totally possible he didn't though)

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Leafeon13N
05/10/24 6:43:59 PM
#47:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Red(clear attempt to save Red yesterday in all the commotion)
Clear attempt from who how many scum do you think there are.

And what danger was i even in when all that commotion was taking place.

Also kirby that was a bad play i think.
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PunishedBen
05/10/24 6:45:12 PM
#48:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5d17180b.png
I wanna know what Death saw since this went unexplained and just seemed like a scummy post to sound cool lol

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PunishedBen
05/10/24 6:47:42 PM
#49:


htaeD posted...
why did you vote Red?
Death why did you ask me this with less than 2 minutes left in the day while voting me? Was I supposed to answer in time enough to convince you to unvote me?

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Leafeon13N
05/10/24 6:48:15 PM
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Kirby321 posted...
So in a sense, we got an inno Cop scan on Ulti.
I dont think this is necessarily true actually. I would be careful about things like that.

More likely, but dont treat it like an inno scan.
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