Board 8 > Community Mafia Topic 15 - Long Form Narrative Improv (Mandatory)

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That's true. And no my betting doesn't target anyone.

If it makes Chang happy I would even offer to let IGCD shoot me.
It'd narrow down the PoE and it would deny Chang the shame of mislynching me later down the line.

Though I would argue its still better to shoot someone who could be scum.

Also I dont recall if IGCD said he could shoot straight away.

ctesjbuvf posted...

I thought IGCD could shoot tonight

And if IGCD is town what stops scum from trying to redirect his kill to someone else

But worse: If both are town what stops scum from redirecting Ctes off of IGCD and onto scum

No, he should shoot during the next day phase, not at night.

TotallyNotMI posted...

If it's wrong when I say it it can't suddenly be right against me

Well you're the one to think one of the instances can be true. I don't.

I forgot he could even shoot during the day.
That is probably smarter at least

Oh he can daykill apparently

I missed that

Meow1000 posted...

Oh he can daykill apparently

I missed that

You specifically gave me shit when I asked him this lol

TotallyNotMI posted...

You specifically gave me shit when I asked him this lol

At the time I don't remember him specifying whether or not. It was a bad question when it was asked.

essentially we would trade two nightkills tonight for two daykills (including the lynch) tomorrow

I wish the people i trusted were more in agreement.

Also apparently i found a spot to sit in petco with shitty service gfaqs takes forever to load probably entirely due to fucking fandom.

I mean there is probably something that can go wrong, but I have hope.

MZero's role did say that the taunt lasted through the next day phase so there is a world where scum redirect would too

TotallyNotMI posted...

MZero's role did say that the taunt lasted through the next day phase so there is a world where scum redirect would too

is it weird for MI to remember this off the top of his head as a vanilla?

did anyone else remember this

TotallyNotMI posted...

MZero's role did say that the taunt lasted through the next day phase so there is a world where scum redirect would too

Now I am imagining Mzero taunting the vanisher..
Pity he could not taunt day1

I also really think ulti may have laid too many cards forward he smells a lot here. Not like town trying to solve but scum putting out a victory path.

Especially since he went from being so eager to talking about scanning people to nothing about his role.

changmas posted...

is it weird for MI to remember this off the top of his head as a vanilla?

did anyone else remember this

Nope.
I dont even remember what Sbells role does half of the time.

changmas posted...

PROPOSED PLAN IF YOU TRUST CTES AND IGCD ARE TOWN

IGCD gets to hammer today and earns his vig shot
ctes bets his life that IGCD is the nightkill to earn his vig shot

Scum is forced to either kill IGCD and confirm ctes town or let him be and ctes removes himself as a mislynch option

and town is guaranteed at least one vig shot tomorrow either way.

note that this does NOT guarantee that kirby roleblock will stop the kill, as scum can no kill or shoot into ctes anyway to conceal themselves, but it earns us a vig shot tomorrow guaranteed and we'll have two flips next day phase

The only thing that makes me hesitate is whether the vig shot is worth the bloodbath. I see a very easy way for scum to maximize town kills. Granted, that entirely depends on scum's confidence that neither IGCD nor Ctes would actually shoot scum.

However, we have the numbers for it, assuming there's at most 2 scum.

9 town vs. 2 scum
Someone gets lynched D5. Let's assumed town. 8 town vs. 2 scum
Scum kills someone other than IGCD or Ctes. Ctes gambles his life and loses. 6 town vs. 2 scum
IGCD dayvigs and hits town. We lynch someone and they're also town. 4 town vs. 2 scum
Scum nightkills. 3 town vs. 2 scum

So LyLo arrives on Day 7 with two scum. Otherwise, the game ends D6 if there's three scum.

Honestly, it's risky, but I'm not opposed to it. Ulti's Cop scans would be nice to have, but if it's 2 scum, he's highly unlikely to make it to D7 alive anyway.

TotallyNotMI posted...

MZero's role did say that the taunt lasted through the next day phase so there is a world where scum redirect would too

MZero's taunt was at least specifically designed for the role that took out Lopen for sure.

Wall's role in Blade Mafia 5 protected the target the next DAY after and would protect them from SBell's kill. It was the only reason Wall had that power.

But bus driver is a completely different thing than Taunter.

changmas posted...

is it weird for MI to remember this off the top of his head as a vanilla?

did anyone else remember this

I didn't even read the flip really so yeah I accepted I just missed that part.

Also my god does the time fly.

oh wait ctes is your vig shot night only

changmas posted...

oh wait ctes is your vig shot night only

No

alright then the plan works

changmas posted...

is it weird for MI to remember this off the top of his head as a vanilla?

did anyone else remember this

I definitely didn't remember that. Nor did MZero ever give any indication that was the case.

We really have two people claiming a dayvig shot after someone already got taken out during the day ok then

Ulti has been so fucking eager to throw up town reads and then just ignore them.

Its fucking annoying.

htaeD posted...

Also my god does the time fly.

And despite your promise to be helpful to IGCD and having talked about how no combinations you can think of doesn't have a specific user

You don't have a vote down.

UltimaterializerX posted...

MI having the roleblock in his favor is huge.

God even looking at a screen hurts. Please just lynch Red without my help guys. I dont have the energy to argue rn

Counter-argument: It's past Days 1 through 3, so we'd probably be more accurate if we did the exact opposite of what you want us to do.

big shocker death doesn't have a vote down 15 mins to go look who's bystanding again

ctesjbuvf posted...

I thought IGCD could shoot tonight

It's a day vig that I earn.

ctesjbuvf posted...

And despite your promise to be helpful to IGCD and having talked about how no combinations you can think of doesn't have a specific user

You don't have a vote down.

My vote isn't down either because frankly I think I'd rather lynch Ulti or Death than any of the three top options right now.

Meow1000 posted...

My vote isn't down either because frankly I think I'd rather lynch Ulti or Death than any of the three top options right now.

I think you always lynch Death first there and see what Ulti says tomorrow.

ctesjbuvf posted...

And despite your promise to be helpful to IGCD and having talked about how no combinations you can think of doesn't have a specific user

You don't have a vote down.

Ctes you really need to pay attention more to what I am saying. I already said I had no reason to accept those teams as super useful as long as I cant tell what IGCD is.
MI's posts were starting to win me over at that, since he did the same thing I was doing with teambuilding.

IGCD, eyes are on you to place a vote and break the current tie. Nobody else should vote rn imo

Kirby321 posted...

Because I would have thought scum would've fakeclaimed power to dissuade me from roleblocking them. That's the whole reason I gambited on jailing Ulti last night. But he's completely innocent, and everyone else's power claims barring Ctes' seem fairly legit. And if there's more than one scum left, I highly doubt they're all hiding in the power claims.

I'm just losing my mind trying to figure out who I need to jail to stop a kill. And I'm beginning to wonder now if scum actually has some way to bypass my night action, which would mean that they claimed Vanilla and wouldn't be implicated by me jailing them and a night kill still happening.

Oh ok, I see where your coming from and with Blade pointing out that Wallz ability needed him to send in the kill I jumped the gun and thought I had a slip to jump on.

changmas posted...

big shocker death doesn't have a vote down 15 mins to go look who's bystanding again

Big shocker I always do this and always will. Live with it for eternity.

ctesjbuvf posted...

I think you always lynch Death first there and see what Ulti says tomorrow.

Death feels like he's being both timid and keeping his options open at the same time.

But you know who else isn't voting? Red. Why isn't Red voting?

htaeD posted...

Ctes you really need to pay attention more to what I am saying. I already said I had no reason to accept those teams as super useful as long as I cant tell what IGCD is.
MI's posts were starting to win me over at that, since he did the same thing I was doing with teambuilding.

Man and you say that after missing like 10 posts about my stance on MI/Red.

Also that still only explains half the two things I said.

Enchantress posted...

Votals
[2] Red - (MI), (Ulti), Ben, Ulti
[2] MI - (Ulti), (Ulti), Kirby, (Ulti), Ctes
[2] Ctes -FD, (Kirby), (Ulti), MI
[1] Death - Chang, (Kirby)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day ends Sunday, May 12th at 6 PM EST.

30 minutes remaining.

Just double-checking, these votals are correct, yes? Anyone have any objections to letting IGCD break the tie?

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Kirby321 posted...

IGCD, eyes are on you to place a vote and break the current tie. Nobody else should vote rn imo

I think people should still at least say who they want to vote IMO. Even if they are like me and terminally indecisive.

Kirby321 posted...

However, we have the numbers for it, assuming there's at most 2 scum.

I think it's reckless to assume 2 scum, we should always assume worst case.

Meow1000 posted...

But you know who else isn't voting? Red. Why isn't Red voting

Honestly, a little puzzled.

Kirby321 posted...

Just double-checking, these votals are correct, yes? Anyone have any objections to letting IGCD break the tie?

I don't trust people enough. Would rather people get their votes down so IGCD can see it.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

It's a day vig that I earn.

I didn't remember this either. I thought the last time it came up you left it ambiguous.

let's let IGCD vote at :58 and then no one vote after

Forceful_Dragon posted...

I think it's reckless to assume 2 scum, we should always assume worst case.

I concur. But at the same time, I feel like that the longer this game goes on, the more likely town will choke. I think it might be beneficial to do something crazy and see how it pans out.

Of course, that assumes nobody screws IGCD out of the lynch today.

Kirby321 posted...

Just double-checking, these votals are correct, yes? Anyone have any objections to letting IGCD break the tie?

Making it a 4-way tie is tempting, but I'm very curious as to why Red is in that tie but hasn't voted yet.