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Smallville
05/13/24 4:04:36 PM
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and also born in the u.s.?

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Robot2600
05/13/24 4:05:40 PM
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yes and yes, but i also think over 70 is too old for president.

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bigblu89
05/13/24 4:07:23 PM
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Yes. More because I feel that probably gives someone enough time to truly get involved in the political process before trying to reach for the highest office in the nation.

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Solar_Crimson
05/13/24 4:07:56 PM
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Yes, and I also believe that there needs to be an age limit as well.

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Thanatos_the_Great
05/13/24 4:12:18 PM
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Neither makes sense. Anyone who's eligible to vote should be eligible to run for office.

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emblem-man
05/13/24 4:19:13 PM
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No and no

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Godbe-Bryant
05/13/24 4:19:51 PM
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Should be a min and max age

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ai123
05/13/24 4:21:01 PM
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Let the voters decide what is appropriate in a democracy.

Personally, I don't see the need for any age restrictions once a person reaches majority. If you think a candidate is too callow or too senile, vote for a different one.

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pinky0926
05/13/24 4:22:05 PM
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Seems like an arbitrary rule anyway. Nobody is voting for a foreigner or a young person.

I barely trust a barista under 30, never mind a president

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LightningThief
05/13/24 4:23:02 PM
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Yes and yes.

I support there being some minimum rules on who can be President. On that same note I'd argue Trump should be disqualified based on the US current rules, but alas here we are.....
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Westernwolf4
05/13/24 4:23:57 PM
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ai123 posted...
Let the voters decide what is appropriate in a democracy.

Personally, I don't see the need for any age restrictions once a person reaches majority. If you think a candidate is too callow or too senile, vote for a different one.

This is what I think too. If someone is old enough to vote, they should be able to run. I am also opposed to age limits. Let the voters decide.


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Prismsblade
05/13/24 4:24:19 PM
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Yea, though the selection process is in need of a complete overhaul still after all the events concerning Israel.

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Smallville
05/13/24 4:25:30 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Yea, though the selection process is in need of a complete overhaul still after all the events concerning Israel.
why does israel make it kinda different?

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Trumble
05/13/24 4:26:14 PM
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If there's a minimum (other than age of adulthood) there should be a maximum too.

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Euripides
05/13/24 4:26:43 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
Nobody is voting for a foreigner or a young person.

There is a much bigger than 0% of American voters who would vote for Elon Musk for president

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Kuuko
05/13/24 4:29:49 PM
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You don't need to be born in the US. You just need to be a "natural born" citizen. Which has no technical definition but most people think as long as you were a citizen by some means when you were born then you're eligible. Republicans used to strictly say it can only be interpreted as you need to be born in the US, so that they could push conspiracies that Obama isn't eligible to be president by saying he was secretly born in Africa. Republicans had to make exceptions that John McCain was eligible though because he was born on a US base in Panama. But then they altogether changed their opinion on what "natural born" means again when Ted Cruz ran for president, and he is very plainly just born in Canada.

The fact that they're OK with the Ted Cruz definition now is funny too because it means the Obama-Kenya birth conspiracy was entirely meaningless. Even if he was born in Kenya, which he wasn't, he would still be eligible since his mother would have passed him American citizenship the same way as Ted Cruz. It goes without saying but it was entirely a racism-driven conspiracy. And it's oft-forgotten now, but Donald Trump was by far the absolute most massive propagator of the Obama-Kenya conspiracy and you could say it was largely the beginning of his getting directly into politics.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
05/13/24 4:33:30 PM
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ai123 posted...
Let the voters decide what is appropriate in a democracy.

Personally, I don't see the need for any age restrictions once a person reaches majority. If you think a candidate is too callow or too senile, vote for a different one.


So let people vote for a 18 high school student then. If thats what the majority wants then all good, right?

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ForsakenHermit
05/13/24 4:36:34 PM
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I belive that if you start kindergarten in the US you should be eligible to run for president. I understand wanting the president to have an American upbringing on some level but I don't agree with barring people who came over here as babies or preschoolers from being president.

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ai123
05/13/24 4:41:24 PM
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CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
So let people vote for a 18 high school student then. If thats what the majority wants then all good, right?
Let people vote for a corrupt racist businessman. As long as they are over 18, it's all good, right?

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LightningThief
05/13/24 4:44:13 PM
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Kuuko posted...
You don't need to be born in the US. You just need to be a "natural born" citizen. Which has no technical definition but most people think as long as you were a citizen by some means when you were born then you're eligible. Republicans used to strictly say it can only be interpreted as you need to be born in the US, so that they could push conspiracies that Obama isn't eligible to be president by saying he was secretly born in Africa. Republicans had to make exceptions that John McCain was eligible though because he was born on a US base in Panama. But then they altogether changed their opinion on what "natural born" means again when Ted Cruz ran for president, and he is very plainly just born in Canada.

The fact that they're OK with the Ted Cruz definition now is funny too because it means the Obama-Kenya birth conspiracy was entirely meaningless. Even if he was born in Kenya, which he wasn't, he would still be eligible since his mother would have passed him American citizenship the same way as Ted Cruz. It goes without saying but it was entirely a racism-driven conspiracy. And it's oft-forgotten now, but Donald Trump was by far the absolute most massive propagator of the Obama-Kenya conspiracy and you could say it was largely the beginning of his getting directly into politics.
Not saying you are wrong, this post is more of just an add on.

I haven't done my homework on Cruz to know his back story, and frankly don't care to beyond what I think I already know about him.

It should be noted that Republicans "being ok" with Ted Cruz doesn't mean he was actually eligible or ineligible.

That all being said, IIRC his mother was an American citizen on a work visa or something in Canada. She didn't give up her American citizenship and when Cruz was born he was automatically granted citizenship. In otherwords, he didn't have to apply for American citizenship upon his birth, it was automatic.
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GrandConjuraton
05/13/24 4:44:35 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Yes, and I also believe that there needs to be an age limit as well.


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Compsognathus
05/13/24 4:46:44 PM
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The age minimum seems unnecessary. If a good candidate is 34 years-old they it just seems dumb to exclude them.

I also think that being born in the US is overkill. I do think it should be more stringent than simply being a citizen but I think if you have been a citizen for a sufficient amount of time you should be clear to run.

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Trumble
05/13/24 4:58:42 PM
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Compsognathus posted...
The age minimum seems unnecessary. If a good candidate is 34 years-old they it just seems dumb to exclude them.

I also think that being born in the US is overkill. I do think it should be more stringent than simply being a citizen but I think if you have been a citizen for a sufficient amount of time you should be clear to run.
This. Keep in mind there's still the failsafe of that people need to actually vote for you... Not that that's been a particularly effective failsafe, mind you.

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pretzelcoatl
05/13/24 5:08:12 PM
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Sure. Seems reasonable to me. Even in your 20s, you lack a lot of real life experience. I do think there needs to be an upper age limit as well.

With the way elections are going, I think the "born in the U.S." thing is more important that ever. Seeing people talk about Elon for president makes me glad that foreign oligarchs can't just buy their way into the white house.
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DKBananaSlamma
05/13/24 5:09:10 PM
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Yes, I dont want some zoomer with tiktok brainrot running for president for at least a decade

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/13/24 5:12:29 PM
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I dunno, I always assumed wisdom comes with age but then I started getting old myself and, speaking from experience, it definitely doesn't.

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pinky0926
05/13/24 5:21:55 PM
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Euripides posted...
There is a much bigger than 0% of American voters who would vote for Elon Musk for president

Ah yes but he is white and sounds like he went to harvard, that's the difference

Same way that they called Michelle Obama a trans Muslim or whatever and never once thought about melania as a bona fide pay to win immigrant

Basically they are full of shit

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Thanatos_the_Great
05/13/24 6:35:36 PM
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CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
So let people vote for a 18 high school student then. If thats what the majority wants then all good, right?

Yes.

DKBananaSlamma posted...
Yes, I dont want some zoomer with tiktok brainrot running for president for at least a decade

Fine, don't vote for them. But some people may want a "zoomer", and if one runs they should be able to vote for them.

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DKBananaSlamma
05/13/24 7:41:57 PM
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They're dumb if they do lawl

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ScazarMeltex
05/13/24 7:58:35 PM
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Kuuko posted...
You don't need to be born in the US. You just need to be a "natural born" citizen. Which has no technical definition but most people think as long as you were a citizen by some means when you were born then you're eligible. Republicans used to strictly say it can only be interpreted as you need to be born in the US, so that they could push conspiracies that Obama isn't eligible to be president by saying he was secretly born in Africa. Republicans had to make exceptions that John McCain was eligible though because he was born on a US base in Panama. But then they altogether changed their opinion on what "natural born" means again when Ted Cruz ran for president, and he is very plainly just born in Canada.

The fact that they're OK with the Ted Cruz definition now is funny too because it means the Obama-Kenya birth conspiracy was entirely meaningless. Even if he was born in Kenya, which he wasn't, he would still be eligible since his mother would have passed him American citizenship the same way as Ted Cruz. It goes without saying but it was entirely a racism-driven conspiracy. And it's oft-forgotten now, but Donald Trump was by far the absolute most massive propagator of the Obama-Kenya conspiracy and you could say it was largely the beginning of his getting directly into politics.
Look dude, Republicans don't care about consistency. If Obama were running now hey would be happy to disqualify him while letting Cruz run. If questioned in it they'd simply say something like "because fuck you that's why". Legacy media wouldn't push back at all and that would be that.

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Notti
05/16/24 7:41:00 AM
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I'm ok with it. An upper limit is good too.

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LeoRavus
05/16/24 7:45:44 AM
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The world wouldn't take a 25 year old president seriously even if they were a genius.

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OriginalPlain2
05/16/24 7:47:53 AM
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anyone talking about the boundaries for such office?

cause after what recent presidents were held accountable for, I kinda wonder somethings sometimes

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reincarnator07
05/16/24 7:52:46 AM
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It seems a little silly to be able to vote but not be able to be voted for.

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Euripides
05/16/24 8:02:31 AM
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Nothing will change about the requirements for president because it would require a constitutional amendment, and the country (and parties) are too divided to agree.

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Sufferedphoenix
05/16/24 8:55:59 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Seems like an arbitrary rule anyway. Nobody is voting for a foreigner or a young person.

I barely trust a barista under 30, never mind a president

Ah I bet people would vote for a foreigner. But that rule does need to exist because it opens the door for them helping out their home country even if said home country doesn't need or deserve the help.

I'm mean Arnold got elected governor. A lot of people are stupid wnd would be like oohhh we can have the terminator as president.

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Sufferedphoenix
05/16/24 8:57:00 AM
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reincarnator07 posted...
It seems a little silly to be able to vote but not be able to be voted for.

You can take smaller roles in the government. Kinda like most jobs. You don't just walk in and become CEO at 18.

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Glob
05/16/24 9:11:51 AM
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Thanatos_the_Great posted...
Neither makes sense. Anyone who's eligible to vote should be eligible to run for office.

ai123 posted...
Let the voters decide what is appropriate in a democracy.

Personally, I don't see the need for any age restrictions once a person reaches majority. If you think a candidate is too callow or too senile, vote for a different one.

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/16/24 9:12:54 AM
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Sufferedphoenix posted...
Ah I bet people would vote for a foreigner. But that rule does need to exist because it opens the door for them helping out their home country even if said home country doesn't need or deserve the help.
I never thought about that before, but it makes sense.

If somebody from Country X got elected US Prez and Country X decided to just go wallop Country Y for no reason, things could get bad quickly.

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Baron_Ox
05/16/24 9:16:58 AM
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I'm fine with a person being able to run regardless of how they received their citizenship.

like, if a person moved from Guatemala at 5 and got their US citizenship at 25, for example, they should also be eligible.

I'm also fine with under 35 being eligible. 65, by the end of your second term, if it should happen, should be the cutoff age.

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Thanatos_the_Great
05/16/24 11:35:01 AM
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Sufferedphoenix posted...
You can take smaller roles in the government. Kinda like most jobs. You don't just walk in and become CEO at 18.

Elected office isn't like most jobs.

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Xatrion
05/16/24 12:15:19 PM
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ai123 posted...
Let the voters decide what is appropriate in a democracy.

Personally, I don't see the need for any age restrictions once a person reaches majority. If you think a candidate is too callow or too senile, vote for a different one.

There's an orange elephant in the room...

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reincarnator07
05/16/24 2:52:46 PM
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Sufferedphoenix posted...
You can take smaller roles in the government. Kinda like most jobs. You don't just walk in and become CEO at 18.
You don't, but that's generally because the 18 year old doesn't have the prerequisite skills and knowledge, not because they're 18. There's nothing actually stopping an 18 year old from becoming a CEO though.

In practice, you'll likely never see an 18 year old president, but I see no reason it should be forbidden in a country that was founded on the idea of all men being equal. If they can convince the electorate that they should be in power, then that is democracy for better or worse.

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BewmHedshot
05/16/24 3:01:18 PM
#45:


There need to be even more stringent requirements but I'm not sure how to properly define them.
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Charged151
05/16/24 3:11:26 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
yes and yes, but i also think over 70 is too old for president.
Nailed it.

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EPR-radar
05/16/24 3:12:57 PM
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Kuuko posted...
You don't need to be born in the US. You just need to be a "natural born" citizen. Which has no technical definition but most people think as long as you were a citizen by some means when you were born then you're eligible. Republicans used to strictly say it can only be interpreted as you need to be born in the US, so that they could push conspiracies that Obama isn't eligible to be president by saying he was secretly born in Africa. Republicans had to make exceptions that John McCain was eligible though because he was born on a US base in Panama. But then they altogether changed their opinion on what "natural born" means again when Ted Cruz ran for president, and he is very plainly just born in Canada.

The fact that they're OK with the Ted Cruz definition now is funny too because it means the Obama-Kenya birth conspiracy was entirely meaningless. Even if he was born in Kenya, which he wasn't, he would still be eligible since his mother would have passed him American citizenship the same way as Ted Cruz. It goes without saying but it was entirely a racism-driven conspiracy. And it's oft-forgotten now, but Donald Trump was by far the absolute most massive propagator of the Obama-Kenya conspiracy and you could say it was largely the beginning of his getting directly into politics.
Exactly. Trump/GOP birtherism was meaningless hypocritical racist bullshit. That's all Republicans ever do.

In fact, birtherism was nothing more than a way for Republicans to effectively say "n____, n_____, n____" vs. Obama.

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Prototypic
05/16/24 3:19:39 PM
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I think 35 is too high a limit, I would probably make it 18 to line up with age of majority and voting; I don't think an 18 year old is likely to ever get elected, but if one could get the nomination and get enough votes to win, I don't think age alone should disqualify them.

I'm a little more on the fence on the second question, but lean towards "if they're a citizen and eligible to vote, they should qualify".

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ROB45
05/16/24 3:25:18 PM
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Pretty stupid, but the system has always been stupid.
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Spiderman23J
05/16/24 3:39:14 PM
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It would be cool to see somebody young like that in charge especially after Trump/Biden


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