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Humble_Novice
05/13/24 5:31:50 PM
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I don't think we ought to forget that there's a war going on in Ukraine.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1cqy2l5/a_large_number_of_russian_occupiers_were/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1cr3wj4/a_russian_su25_was_shot_down_in_donbas_according/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1cqzq19/80_of_damage_to_oil_refineries_is_caused_by/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1cr067m/ukrainian_troops_destroy_a_russian_ammunition/

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Ubergeneral3
05/13/24 6:34:33 PM
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So can we agree that the USA does not need to send aid to them. The Ukraine war was never our problem, and anyone that thinks otherwise is propagandized that Russia is bad.

Sure Putin is evil, but the USA shouldn't be the world's police man. Getting involved in foreign affairs only brought trouble and I blame our foreign policy on 9/11. I got the message that was sent that day. We should focus on our internal problems like trump than a war in a war away land.

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Humble_Novice
05/13/24 6:40:11 PM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
So can we agree that the USA does not need to send aid to them. The Ukraine war was never our problem, and anyone that thinks otherwise is propagandized that Russia is bad.

Sure Putin is evil, but the USA shouldn't be the world's police man. Getting involved in foreign affairs only brought trouble and I blame our foreign policy on 9/11. I got the message that was sent that day. We should focus on our internal problems like trump than a war in a war away land.
I highly disagree. Preventing Russia from getting their way can only be good for the USA.

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PoopPotato
05/13/24 6:43:17 PM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
So can we agree that the USA does not need to send aid to them. The Ukraine war was never our problem, and anyone that thinks otherwise is propagandized that Russia is bad.

Sure Putin is evil, but the USA shouldn't be the world's police man. Getting involved in foreign affairs only brought trouble and I blame our foreign policy on 9/11. I got the message that was sent that day. We should focus on our internal problems like trump than a war in a war away land.
Nah, Ukraine needs our help. This goes beyond Ukraine. If Russia takes over, they'll gain a huge advantage in supplying African nations with food, but only to those that support Russia

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toreysback
05/13/24 6:58:12 PM
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thanks for making the topic

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Sir_Will
05/14/24 11:14:34 AM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
and anyone that thinks otherwise is propagandized that Russia is bad.
They ARE bad. The invasion is wrong. And besides being the right thing to do, it's in the world's best interests to stop Russia now, in Ukraine.


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Scardude
05/14/24 11:16:56 AM
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Sir_Will posted...
They ARE bad. The invasion is wrong. And besides being the right thing to do, it's in the world's best interests to stop Russia now, in Ukraine.
Eastern side of the world sees USA as bad. Western side sees it as the Russian. We're back to being in cold war.

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ReiRei89
05/14/24 11:18:37 AM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
So can we agree that the USA does not need to send aid to them. The Ukraine war was never our problem, and anyone that thinks otherwise is propagandized that Russia is bad.

Sure Putin is evil, but the USA shouldn't be the world's police man. Getting involved in foreign affairs only brought trouble and I blame our foreign policy on 9/11. I got the message that was sent that day. We should focus on our internal problems like trump than a war in a war away land.
Ignoring Russia is how WW3 begins. Putin is already considering going after the likes of Finland. If the US lets him take Ukraine then obviously he'll go through with sweeping up the other former USSR territories which will get NATO involved which will trigger WW3.

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Hexenherz
05/14/24 11:19:52 AM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
So can we agree that the USA does not need to send aid to them. The Ukraine war was never our problem, and anyone that thinks otherwise is propagandized that Russia is bad.

Sure Putin is evil, but the USA shouldn't be the world's police man. Getting involved in foreign affairs only brought trouble and I blame our foreign policy on 9/11. I got the message that was sent that day. We should focus on our internal problems like trump than a war in a war away land.
Arguably Ukraine *was* our problem, since we literally made a security commitment to them in exchange for denuclearization. Guess who else signed that guarantee?...

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Lobinde
05/14/24 11:21:14 AM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
So can we agree that the USA does not need to send aid to them. The Ukraine war was never our problem, and anyone that thinks otherwise is propagandized that Russia is bad.

Sure Putin is evil, but the USA shouldn't be the world's police man. Getting involved in foreign affairs only brought trouble and I blame our foreign policy on 9/11. I got the message that was sent that day. We should focus on our internal problems like trump than a war in a war away land.

The US supporting Ukraine is pretty much the only post-WW2 foreign conflict policy decision the US has ever made that's actually helped people, and you want them to stop?

And Russia is bad, and pretty much everyone within the Russian imperial sphere of influence would agree.

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Foppe
05/14/24 11:21:14 AM
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Putin replaced his Defense Minister with a civilian economist.

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Trelve
05/14/24 11:27:00 AM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
So can we agree that the USA does not need to send aid to them. The Ukraine war was never our problem, and anyone that thinks otherwise is propagandized that Russia is bad.

Sure Putin is evil, but the USA shouldn't be the world's police man. Getting involved in foreign affairs only brought trouble and I blame our foreign policy on 9/11. I got the message that was sent that day. We should focus on our internal problems like trump than a war in a war away land.
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CADE_FOSTER
05/14/24 11:32:11 AM
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I am all for aid to Ukraine why we can destroy a major enemy of america for cash and weapons sign me the fuck up for that
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Sir_Will
05/14/24 11:41:26 AM
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Foppe posted...
Putin replaced his Defense Minister with a civilian economist.
The previous one was shit too.

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Irrelevant
05/14/24 2:56:05 PM
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Okay let's keep this one going!

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Diceheist
05/14/24 3:04:22 PM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
I got the message that was sent that day. We should focus on our internal problems like trump than a war in a war away land.

Trump tried to overthrow Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro and heavily promotes funding for Israel, he doesn't focus on internal problems either.

Anyway I'm not sure prolonging a war involving the deaths of civilians and conscripts for the sake of geopolitical benefits is particularly humane, contrary to some of the sentiments being shared here.

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Wrath_Of_Spiral
05/14/24 3:14:50 PM
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I see it as having too many hands in each jar. Ukraine's been an ongoing effort since last year, the Palestinian/Israel conflict has escalated so much in these last few months that it's further divided the country, Trump's attempting to get away with breaking the law and staging an insurrection, oh and... our presidential election is this year... where Trump taking back the presidency is a very real threat.

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ROBANN_88
05/14/24 3:36:46 PM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
and anyone that thinks otherwise is propagandized that Russia is bad.

what in the hell is wrong with you?

did you forget about Bucha?
did you forget the Mariupol theater?
the constant nuke threaths?
the times in the beginning when they set up "humanitarian corridors" that either led into minefields or became artillery target practice?
the torture chambers?
that people got arrested for holding up blank pieces of paper infront of the Kremlin?

what the fuck?

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Sir_Will
05/14/24 3:59:21 PM
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Don't forget all the kidnapped children.

And thousand other war crimes....

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Foppe
05/14/24 4:01:28 PM
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Russian mobile crematoriums.

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ROBANN_88
05/14/24 4:14:59 PM
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Foppe posted...
Russian mobile crematoriums.

remember they expected to be welcomed with flowers and cheers, 3 day war at most
those crematoriums weren't meant for their own

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Kradek
05/14/24 4:15:59 PM
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Foppe posted...
Putin replaced his Defense Minister with a civilian economist.

If this is the one I was hearing about earlier then he supports Putin's desires to expand the conflict to Moldova, Transnistria, Poland, etc.

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Humble_Novice
05/14/24 4:20:08 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1crlobv/nine_carriages_of_a_russian_freight_train_have/

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CADE_FOSTER
05/14/24 7:58:35 PM
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Kradek posted...
If this is the one I was hearing about earlier then he supports Putin's desires to expand the conflict to Moldova, Transnistria, Poland, etc.
He is dumb cuz he cant beat ukraine he gonna get dismantled in other countries
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Kradek
05/15/24 1:09:43 AM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
He is dumb cuz he cant beat ukraine he gonna get dismantled in other countries

Well no one's ever really accused Putin of being smart except Trump.

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Humble_Novice
05/15/24 1:29:35 AM
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-suffers-one-most-deadly-160536223.html

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Trelve
05/15/24 1:37:20 AM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
He is dumb cuz he cant beat ukraine he gonna get dismantled in other countries
He doesn't need to invade Moldova to destabilise it. Look at what happened in Ukraine with him supporting seperatist movements in the south. Same thing in Georgia.

Give the pro-Russian forces in Moldova money, weapons and run disinfo campaigns, then he could legitimately cause a civil war and give a reason for Russia to invade to "protect" Russian speaking Moldovans. Moldova joining the EU or worse, NATO is absolutely unacceptable to Putin.
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Thompson
05/15/24 3:50:11 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/89122f9a.jpg

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GuerrillaSoldier
05/15/24 3:56:33 PM
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Kradek posted...
the conflict to Moldova, Transnistria
you literally mentioned an already ongoing conflict because of russia's nonsense. transnistria isn't a country and isn't recognized as such by hardly anyone, it's literally russia already taking territory and claiming land that isn't even theirs.


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Foppe
05/16/24 12:36:35 AM
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Putin is in Peking.

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Zikten
05/16/24 12:39:31 AM
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Foppe posted...
Putin is in Peking.
China used to take orders from the Soviets. Now the roles are reversed. Putin is probably trying to beg for help in Ukraine
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Thompson
05/16/24 12:44:46 AM
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Zikten posted...
China used to take orders from the Soviets.
For a short while, yes.
Then Stalin died in his own piss and some other comrade took over who was not doing communism the way China was doing it ,and so they became so very not best buddies they almost went to war in the late 1960s.

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Zaltera
05/16/24 1:11:58 AM
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Thanks for the topic.

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ROBANN_88
05/17/24 11:01:00 AM
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images from the missile attack on a Russian-held airfield in Crimea
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1cu4148/sharper_images_by_maxar_reveal_the_aftermath_of_a/

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Foppe
05/17/24 3:08:51 PM
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Ammo depot in Saint Petersburg exploded one hour ago, at least 3 injured.

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Humble_Novice
05/18/24 11:20:37 PM
#36:


https://x.com/JayinKyiv/status/1791954064034365915

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Foppe
05/19/24 12:17:19 AM
#37:


Humble_Novice posted...
https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1791954064034365915


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ROBANN_88
05/19/24 10:36:03 AM
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rumors that another Black Sea ship destroyed

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1cvkhhs/ukrainska_pravda_russian_minesweeper_kovrovets/

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ROBANN_88
05/20/24 4:33:19 PM
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that last ship was a minesweeper

and now it's possible that they hit a Ballistic Missile cruiser as well
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1792520513312461152?t=2Cm0iJAuLC7z8CUozaC6WQ&s=19

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CADE_FOSTER
05/20/24 4:37:02 PM
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get fucked putin and russia
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Spartan_Jedi117
05/20/24 4:49:05 PM
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Russia can burn for all I care. It's been a shitty nation since before WW1 and has maintained its champion status ever since

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Zikten
05/20/24 9:05:36 PM
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Russia is probably going to collapse into smaller nations
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Foppe
05/21/24 6:18:57 AM
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Eagles shifting flight paths to avoid Ukraine conflict, deviating from migratory routes by up to 155 miles, which could affect breeding.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/20/eagles-shifting-flight-paths-to-avoid-ukraine-conflict-scientists-find

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-Crissaegrim-
05/21/24 6:45:31 AM
#44:


ROBANN_88 posted...
that last ship was a minesweeper

and now it's possible that they hit a Ballistic Missile cruiser as well
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1792520513312461152?t=2Cm0iJAuLC7z8CUozaC6WQ&s=19

Anyone know what their fleet is down to now?

I know they can't replace them due to the Black Sea being closed off for more warships entering or leaving so each ship they lose is a big loss.

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OmegaShinkai
05/21/24 12:31:27 PM
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-Crissaegrim- posted...


Anyone know what their fleet is down to now?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/df4c7a5e.jpg
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ROBANN_88
05/21/24 12:33:03 PM
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i assume those "transferred from the Baltic Fleet" got there shortly before the war?

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Thompson
05/21/24 12:35:14 PM
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OmegaShinkai posted...
Anyone know what their fleet is down to now?
I'm expecting it to be down to the sea floor.

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Spartan_Jedi117
05/21/24 1:02:15 PM
#48:


ROBANN_88 posted...
i assume those "transferred from the Baltic Fleet" got there shortly before the war?
How long before the entire fleet get transfered to the bottom of the ocean?

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Humble_Novice
05/21/24 3:24:11 PM
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A potential gamechanger: https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1cxdtlm/pentagon_working_with_spacex_to_cut_off_russian/

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-Crissaegrim-
05/21/24 4:18:56 PM
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OmegaShinkai posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/df4c7a5e.jpg

Woah. Seems like a lot of the heavy hitters have been brought down. Keep it up Ukraine.

Wonder how many more of these ships can be lost before this fleet is entirely disfunctional.

Must be getting very stretched already. According to MSN, they might have lost their last missile carrier among the recent ships sunk. Not sure how reliable that last bit of info is, but if true it could be crucial.

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