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BDSMKane
05/16/24 2:22:21 PM
#151:


Regarding the San Andreas board, I started looking but gave up. Im obviously unable to say definitively it didnt happen, especially when moderation is considered. If anyone wants to try and show it definitively did happen, Ill at least provide some help.

https://web.archive.org/web/20050228064746/http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=2000254

Thats if anyone cares enough, I wont blame anyone if they dont and Im willing to let the issue rest. But there is the possibility of a Mandela Effect. Or maybe just a couple loud posters being trolls or racist. Or maybe it was rampant and I just dont remember.

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BDSMKane
05/16/24 2:25:09 PM
#153:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I was actually here. I abandoned my old account when I made this one, but Ive been around a long time.

I said Im willing to let it go because I cant say anything definitively, though.

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DrizztLink
05/16/24 2:26:36 PM
#154:


We aren't allowed to cite memory on something like this.

Either we make a list of NO LESS THAN 36 individual posters or we can't discuss something that happened like twenty years ago on boards that don't archive.

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HashtagSEP
05/16/24 2:28:53 PM
#156:


I'm a bit confused by the apparent assertion of "I'm not convinced racists were racist about this thing in the past" in a topic where racists are blatantly being racist about something.

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Murphiroth
05/16/24 2:29:14 PM
#157:


BDSMKane posted...
I was actually here. I abandoned my old account when I made this one, but Ive been around a long time.

I said Im willing to let it go because I cant say anything definitively, though.

I feel like it's way more believable that people were being racist about it than that they weren't, why do you find that so hard to believe? Kinda weird, dude.
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BDSMKane
05/16/24 2:32:02 PM
#158:


HashtagSEP posted...
I'm a bit confused by the apparent assertion of "I'm not convinced racists were racist about this thing in the past" in a topic where racists are blatantly being racist about something.

Murphiroth posted...
I feel like it's way more believable that people were being racist about it than that they weren't, why do you find that so hard to believe? Kinda weird, dude.

BDSMKane posted...
Were going backwards socially, thats why examples of things that no one cared about in the past are relevant. Like a woman protagonist in Alien, or the black samurai in Neo Contra. Trump even tried running for PotUS in 2000 and unofficially in 2012 and both went nowhere.

The internet is the greatest tool for spreading information, but also disinformation. It can provide both the most complex knowledge of reality, as well as the most ignorant opinions of people. We could be using such a great resource to further examine the mysteries of life, but instead we get trapped in a cycle of consuming hateful and fearful garbage ad infinitum.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Someone actually wanted citation is weird?

No one is forcing you to keep arguing aboutwhat? Were not even arguing if it happened now, I said Im done, its over, I dont care. Now you, and everyone else whos bored, is just confronting me. Stop it.

But more importantly
BDSMKane posted...
I said Im willing to let it go because I cant say anything definitively, though.
Stop responding to me and its done. Youre not the one having people troll post in response to you, even after youve admitted the discussion has come to an impasse. Leave it (and me) alone, and its over.

Murphiroth posted...
Are we getting a second meltdown in this topic?

At the very least it's a second dude being very weird about racism.
Posts #12 and #74. You didnt respond to me once until you decided to try baiting me because I said one thing you cant even substantiate an argument against. Please stop harassing me.

HashtagSEP posted...
Why don't you just, you know, stop posting?

Saying "leave me alone" in a topic you're actively still posting in is silly. Nobody is making you reply to the posts.
I did stop posting, now Im just editing. Please stop harassing me.

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Murphiroth
05/16/24 2:39:38 PM
#160:


Are we getting a second meltdown in this topic?

At the very least it's a second dude being very weird about racism.
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HashtagSEP
05/16/24 2:40:13 PM
#161:


BDSMKane posted...
Stop responding to me and its done. Youre not the one having people troll post in response to you, even after youve admitted the discussion has come to an impasse. Leave it (and me) alone, and its over.

Why don't you just, you know, stop posting?

Saying "leave me alone" in a topic you're actively still posting in is silly. Nobody is making you reply to the posts.

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CountCorvinus
05/16/24 2:43:22 PM
#162:


Enclave posted...
Generic create-a-character characters don't tend to work in a narrative driven game where the protagonist is a fleshed out character. Not sure why some people seem to think every game should have character creation.

In universe it could work seeing as Abstergo fronts as a video game company. The custom characters could be explained as Abstergo Entertainment tailoring the player's avatar using collected DNA under the guise that it aids in immersion or whatever bullshit.

I'm picturing a Quantum Leap or Down to Earth type scenario.

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Unsuprised_Pika
05/16/24 2:43:31 PM
#163:


Jabodie posted...
Lol I saw a reddit thread on the Asmon sub and oof, that is a toxic thread.

Yeah I saw that and muted that shithole.

Don't even know why it started popping up on my feed.

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Enclave
05/16/24 2:52:00 PM
#164:


CountCorvinus posted...
In universe it could work seeing as Abstergo fronts as a video game company. The custom characters could be explained as Abstergo Entertainment tailoring the player's avatar using collected DNA under the guise that it aids in immersion or whatever bullshit.

But then you lose the ability to have plot points based on characteristics of the character be it physical characteristics or personality based characteristics since people don't like their created characters behaving in a way that they don't expressly want them to. You end up having to make a very different kind of game if you have character creation.

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CountCorvinus
05/16/24 3:00:30 PM
#165:


Enclave posted...
But then you lose the ability to have plot points based on characteristics of the character be it physical characteristics or personality based characteristics since people don't like their created characters behaving in a way that they don't expressly want them to. You end up having to make a very different kind of game if you have character creation.

I'm picturing a Quantum Leap or Down to Earth type scenario, where you see yourself but the NPCs still react to Altar or whoever the protagonist may be.

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HashtagSEP
05/16/24 3:05:29 PM
#166:


CountCorvinus posted...
I'm picturing a Quantum Leap or Down to Earth type scenario, where you see yourself but the NPCs still react to Altar or whoever the protagonist may be.

Eh, I'd think that'd hurt immersion, though, since nobody is reacting to your character as they appear. It's like older games that let you create a female character, but everybody still referred to them as "he."

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hop918
05/16/24 3:06:42 PM
#167:


lolife67 posted...
I can only think of about 3-4 times he's been used/referenced over the past few years, including this game.

Nioh
Samurai Warriors
The Anime
The character in GG that was based on him
And the US movie that Chadwick Boseman was supposed to star in but he passed away before it could shoot.

"Totally overused"
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Srk700
05/16/24 3:07:38 PM
#168:


DnDer posted...
Zero surprise. That man's audience seems half a step away from consuming Rogan-Peterson-Shapiro pipeline stuff for some odd reason.

It's because Asmon himself has been having takes that align with their ideology lately, so those types have been seeing him as an ally.
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hockeybabe89
05/16/24 3:13:18 PM
#169:


The San Andreas board was an absolute cesspool over CJ being black

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CountCorvinus
05/16/24 3:22:08 PM
#170:


HashtagSEP posted...
Eh, I'd think that'd hurt immersion, though, since nobody is reacting to your character as they appear. It's like older games that let you create a female character, but everybody still referred to them as "he."

Welcome to my reality.

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Murphiroth
05/16/24 3:26:02 PM
#172:


BDSMKane's post in the topic about phrases that make you roll your eyes certainly makes a lot more sense given his posts in this topic.
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DrizztLink
05/16/24 3:27:25 PM
#173:


BDSMKane posted...
I did stop posting, now Im just editing.
What in the sovereign citizen fuck is this even supposed to accomplish?

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HashtagSEP
05/16/24 3:27:40 PM
#174:


BDSMKane posted...
I did stop posting, now Im just editing. Please stop harassing me.

Responding to your posts is not "harassing" you. If you respond to somebody else, they have a right to respond to you. You don't get to respond and then go "But you can't reply back or else you're harassing me!"

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BDSMKane
05/16/24 3:28:45 PM
#175:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/21ccdec4.jpg

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Murphiroth
05/16/24 3:30:36 PM
#177:


BDSMKane posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/21ccdec4.jpg

LMAO what a joke user.
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HashtagSEP
05/16/24 3:32:33 PM
#178:


This is some of the most unhinged stuff I've ever seen.

You've gotta know when to step away from the keyboard.

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tremain07
05/16/24 4:13:29 PM
#180:


I haven't been here since this morning..what the hell happened

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Foppe
05/16/24 4:14:27 PM
#181:


tremain07 posted...
I haven't been here since this morning..what the hell happened
Meltdowns.

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blackrider76
05/16/24 4:22:24 PM
#182:


I mean you guys arent real people.

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DrizztLink
05/16/24 4:22:56 PM
#183:


blackrider76 posted...
I mean you guys arent real people.
We're really sorry about your hurt feelings.

Honest.

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HashtagSEP
05/16/24 4:23:06 PM
#184:


blackrider76 posted...
I mean you guys arent real people.

You had a racist meltdown across multiple topics, and we're the ones that aren't real people?

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Toonstrack
05/16/24 4:26:14 PM
#186:


"Historical accuracy".

The games aren't historically accurate though.

So no, that's no what you're upset about lmao.

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Cemith
05/16/24 4:29:18 PM
#187:


Damn I missed a doozy of a topic.

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Murphiroth
05/16/24 4:29:35 PM
#188:


blackrider76 posted...
I mean you guys arent real people.

This is a totally normal response to being called out for being racist.
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creativerealms
05/16/24 4:31:47 PM
#189:


Toonstrack posted...
"Historical accuracy".

The games aren't historically accurate though.

So no, that's no what you're upset about lmao.
Yes the AssCreed series is historical fiction. It has played fast and loose with historical figures that we know much more about that we know about Yasuke.

And yet only now they complain.

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DrizztLink
05/16/24 4:31:50 PM
#190:


Murphiroth posted...
This is a totally normal response to being called out for being racist.
Arbitrary denial of personhood based on stupidity and hurt feelings isn't exactly out of character for a racist.

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HighSeraph
05/16/24 4:33:13 PM
#191:


Toonstrack posted...
"Historical accuracy".
Historically accurate, you know like that time an Italian got into a fistfight with the pope for a magical staff

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DrizztLink
05/16/24 4:34:17 PM
#192:


HighSeraph posted...
Historically accurate, you know like that time an Italian got into a fistfight with the pope for a magical staff
THE SHARIF DON'T LIKE IT

Bop the Borgia

Bop the Borgia

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creativerealms
05/16/24 4:35:52 PM
#193:


Good thing Assassin's Creed 2 came out before this whole "woke bad" nonsense. Imagine their reaction to Da Vinci if it came out today.

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Murphiroth
05/16/24 4:38:43 PM
#194:


DrizztLink posted...
Arbitrary denial of personhood based on stupidity and hurt feelings isn't exactly out of character for a racist.

True enough, the spinelessness in which he drive-by shitposts the topic and doesn't address any arguments is also pretty in character.
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Umbreon
05/16/24 4:55:06 PM
#195:


Seeing someone not understand that people were super racist about having to play a black person in San Andreas feels like Dejavu.

Seeing someone else freak out over having the option of paying a black character feels like... what's "nostslgia" except instead of a fond memory it's a tired acceptance that some things never change? Because yeah, that shits real familiar.

Also if TC doesn't show up for 24 hours, you know what the purpose of this topic was.

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creativerealms
05/16/24 5:05:22 PM
#196:


Umbreon posted...
Seeing someone not understand that people were super racist about having to play a black person in San Andreas feels like Dejavu.

Seeing someone else freak out over having the option of paying a black character feels like... what's "nostslgia" except instead of a fond memory it's a tired acceptance that some things never change? Because yeah, that shits real familiar.

Also if TC doesn't show up for 24 hours, you know what the purpose of this topic was.
The Internet was a very different place back than. Of course the hatred still existed than.

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Toonstrack
05/16/24 5:33:26 PM
#197:


creativerealms posted...
Yes the AssCreed series is historical fiction. It has played fast and loose with historical figures that we know much more about that we know about Yasuke.

And yet only now they complain.

I've seen people even trying to display it as racist against Japan which is hilarious when Japan has bastardized history plenty of times.

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MacadamianNut3
05/16/24 5:34:17 PM
#198:


HighSeraph posted...
Historically accurate, you know like that time an Italian got into a fistfight with the pope for a magical staff
Great fight lol

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Lord_Ephraim
05/16/24 5:37:47 PM
#199:


The TC hasn't made a single post since #6.

You guys are really really bad at this.

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DrizztLink
05/16/24 5:38:28 PM
#200:


Lord_Ephraim posted...
The TC hasn't made a single post since #6.

You guys are really really bad at this.
Who gives a shit?

Nobody's talking to TC, and if TC is sitting around giggling at people posting then they're fuckin' pathetic.

Not our problem.

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