Board 8 > Community Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Im at a loss what happened on the night IGCD was saved, or whatever it was.

feels like an intentional no kill in hopes that ctes bet on IGCD dying / to frame whoever Kirby RBd.

at that point i guess both scum players must have been widely townread with little risk of Kirby blocking them

Legit we got lucky last night. Kirby went off script with his jail and ctes bet his life instead of his vote. If scum hadn't fired into protection (or NoKilled?) then we would only have 4 alive today. Crap like that is how ben almost lost us Toy Story, people trying to do more than necessary.

I know Kirby can actually roleblock though, so in that sense it doesn't work as well.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

The thought has crossed my mind as well, but it would have to be sort of a "I'm going to NK infinity times and STILL win the game to assert dominance" type of play on your part, and not because you were being dumb at mafia on accident.

I am a chessmaster, not a fool.

I have never played that way as scum, and I never will.

Meow1000 posted...

Suddenly calling Chang town feels like blatantly attempting to bait Ctes into me though.

Is that a bad thing?

Im gonna look scummy as hell saying this but hey this just gives me even more flexibility to play scum in the future once this game ends so fuck it:

i seriously question anyone who can look at the evil Jeff flip and still come at me lmao. how am i scum if not evil Jeff

especially since we have confirmation that while scum team could view Lopens role they couldnt steal and use it

I actually only care because it came from Ulti suddenly going from calling Chang scum to calling Chang town which effectively forces me to be scum for the purposes of being shot.

It's disingenuous as hell.

Anyone reasonable would look at that flip and read me town btw

also like why has blade never suggest FD scum in the past two days its super weird

ctesjbuvf posted...

Is that a bad thing?

It's completely disingenuous. By suddenly swapping to Chang being town, it serves only as a mechanism to force the shot onto me.

"I still think Chang is scum but I want to make sure. Makes sense. That's not what he said.

You say that, but I know nothing about the flavor.

UltimaterializerX posted...

People are calling it a GOOD play if youre scum.

@Kirby321 , come verify your action so ctes can pop off.

Those people are all morons.

changmas posted...

how am i scum if not evil Jeff

yeah, my assumption if you were godfather lawyer was that you would be Evil Jeff

IGCD's flip makes that impossible.

There's Jeff's scummy lawyer friends, but they weren't part of the evil study group. If you're scum the explanation is that you are a "vote mayor" in title rather than a "vote lawyer" or something. But then I don't know why Evil Shirley, Britta or Troy would be a mayor. I guess Troy was the mayor of Fluffy Town, but that was regular troy, not evil troy.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Blade REALLY doesnt want you to target him.

If I was town and Id been voting you for 4 days Id offer the entire game a blowjob if it meant you could kill yourself with a dayvig gamble to confirm me.

Honestly, Im stunned you could be town with this instead of 3P.

By the way if Ctes confirms me town I'm ordering Kirby to roleblock you tonight.

Meow1000 posted...

It's completely disingenuous. By suddenly swapping to Chang being town, it serves only as a mechanism to force the shot onto me.

"I still think Chang is scum but I want to make sure. Makes sense. That's not what he said.

But you would not die from the shot if you are town.

ctesjbuvf posted...

But you would not die from the shot if you are town.

The point is being the obvious shot tonight if the kill isn't stopped.

The only roleblock Kirby should ever make tonight in that shit is Ulti for suggesting it

changmas posted...

also like why has blade never suggest FD scum in the past two days its super weird

:shrug:

I'm flavor confirmed not-evil, but you kind of are too now unless there's something weird going on.

But hey, I welcome ctes to confirm me town today if he wants. It really feels like we can't lose and I promise to poor a cold canister of "love" out in his honor tonight if he dies confirming me.

changmas posted...

also like why has blade never suggest FD scum in the past two days its super weird

It's hard to see how FD's fits, or why FD would claim he was redirected on something so innocuous.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Like, you should be BEGGING ctes to confirm you. Begging. Youve voted him 4 days straight.

If Ctes shoots me Kirby roleblocks you. That's the deal.

Is blade 3p and will die to the shot actually?thats kind of the one thing that makes any sense here

he no longer has to be doctor anymore now that we know IGCD didnt get shot and saved

Because Ctes shooting me actually does give you a way to win the game if you're scum. After a mislynch, you shoot me tonight and Kirby misses his block. You end up in a 50/50 with FD or Chang and Kirby who has sheeped you forever.

I don't follow the line of thinking Kirby should ever roleblock Ulti. It doesn't matter what Ulti suggests and what you think of the ideas, he cannot be anything else but town cop.

according to ctes his shot will kill scum OR 3p, and only won't kill town.

Though now I'm curious what would happen if he targets a 3p who is bulletproof.

It's still actually really annoying how you guys think I would play such a disgustingly poor game as scum.

I'll gladly take the shot from Ctes ONLY under the stipulation that Kirby roleblocks Ulti.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

according to ctes his shot will kill scum OR 3p, and only won't kill town.

Though now I'm curious what would happen if he targets a 3p who is bulletproof.

Yeah the statement is that I die if I hit town.

I have not asked about bulletproof, but I would assume both Ben and I would survive if I shot him.

Meow1000 posted...

It's still actually really annoying how you guys think I would play such a disgustingly poor game as scum.

I'll gladly take the shot from Ctes ONLY under the stipulation that Kirby roleblocks Ulti.

A) if you're town you'll still be alive to tell kirby to RB ulti after ctes shoots you

B) you telling Kirby who to roleblock doesn't seem to matter too much if last night is any indication

C) The only person in charge of Kirby's roleblock is the only person who is not present in this conversation.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Ben could have been BP. Two BP3P is Lea we need to talk territory.

Scum had two EKs, that's already ridiculous.

And you think I EKed Lopen and an easy mislynch "lol"

Forceful_Dragon posted...

A) if you're town you'll still be alive to tell kirby to RB ulti after ctes shoots you

B) you telling Kirby who to roleblock doesn't seem to matter too much if last night is any indication

C) The only person in charge of Kirby's roleblock is the only person who is not present in this conversation.

Ulti suddenly called Chang town which forced me to be scum in this situation. That's why I don't trust it.

I'll be spamming this topic with posts telling Kirby to RB him if I'm shot here.

The thing is, everyone left has some great reason to be town in my eyes. But someone has to not be.

UltimaterializerX posted...

You spammed RB Chang, and him not listening probably won the game for town. I can totally believe FD was shot at.

Uh I theorized RB Chang when I was doing my big writeup.

UltimaterializerX posted...

You spammed RB Chang, and him not listening probably won the game for town. I can totally believe FD was shot at.

FD being shot at would be total lol.

Honestly though I feel like Ulti is doing exactly what he did yesterday, forcing a nonsensical narrative and manipulating every single one of his reads in order to force me to be scum.

Right, much more likely kirby was shot at than me.

Then again scum killed Isquen N2 so

(edit: typo)

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Right, must more likely kirby was shot at than me.

Then again scum killed Isquen N2 so

Scum was looking for Watcher.

This isn't hard to figure out.

Meow1000 posted...

Honestly though I feel like Ulti is doing exactly what he did yesterday, forcing a nonsensical narrative and manipulating every single one of his reads in order to force me to be scum.

And ctes supposedly has a way to prove you aren't beyond a doubt.