Current Events > Biden: "Whats happening in Israel isnt genocide"

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Shadow_Don
05/21/24 3:07:57 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
We have a history of checking them by threatening to pull that funding, even under Reagan.

0 chance Reagan does that if oct 7 happens and American hostages are taken. He'd have troops in Gaza on Oct 8. I dont know why people think this is a good point to bring up.

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Thanatos_the_Great
05/21/24 3:08:37 PM
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It seems more and more like Biden wants to lose.

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Kain_Highwind
05/21/24 3:09:06 PM
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Im not cause I have the luxury of living in one of the reddest states in the country (Arkansas) so I have the opportunity to protest and withhold my vote for him

voting blue down ballot though

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divot1338
05/21/24 3:09:50 PM
#56:


Thanatos_the_Great posted...
It seems more and more like Biden wants to lose.
Really because it seems like he knows exactly who actually votes.

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DrizztLink
05/21/24 3:10:01 PM
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radical_rhino posted...
Anyone calling it a genocide is putting on full display their total ignorance of either whats happening in the Israel-Gaza war or what a genocide is.
By all means, elaborate.

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David1988
05/21/24 3:10:10 PM
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refmon posted...
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1792694477477310782

You still gonna vote for him arent you?

Yes, at this point since we have been voting between the lesser of 2 evils for so long its come down to choosing between the lesser of genocide deniers, which is obviously Biden. I can only imagine what the difference will be between voting for the lesser of two evils a decade from now

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Diceheist
05/21/24 3:14:50 PM
#59:


Shadow_Don posted...


Marianne Williamson is a joke lmfao.

I don't see how she could be more of a joke than genocide deniers.

Maybe one could say, "she sounds silly and stupid" but that still doesn't differentiate her from the main party nominees lol.

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legendary_zell
05/21/24 3:15:29 PM
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divot1338 posted...
Biden doesnt even have control of his own funding.

Even if this was true, there's still many other options listed in that post. And Biden as President and Commander in Chief has significant flexibility to delay or impound funding. He could have vetoed additional appropriations to Israel.

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legendary_zell
05/21/24 3:17:13 PM
#61:


Shadow_Don posted...
0 chance Reagan does that if oct 7 happens and American hostages are taken. He'd have troops in Gaza on Oct 8. I dont know why people think this is a good point to bring up.

The point is the option is there for Biden. Biden is supposed to be better than Reagan. Or are we no longer allowed to expect actually good leadership from Democrats as long as Republicans are kicking puppies?

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Shadow_Don
05/21/24 3:17:21 PM
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Diceheist posted...
I don't see how she could be more of a joke than genocide deniers.

Maybe one could say, "she sounds silly and stupid" but that still doesn't differentiate her from the main party nominees lol.

Idk maybe I just dont put a whole lot of faith in Mystic Jesus meditation sessions with Netanyahu to stop genocide.

Maybe she stops aid to Israel? But Netanyahu probably wouldn't give a fuck and just annihilate Gaza anyways.

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Shadow_Don
05/21/24 3:20:08 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Biden is supposed to be better than Reagan

He is. Reagan would have US troops machinegunning kids in Gaza.

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divot1338
05/21/24 3:20:10 PM
#64:


Diceheist posted...
I don't see how she could be more of a joke than genocide deniers.

Maybe one could say, "she sounds silly and stupid" but that still doesn't differentiate her from the main party nominees lol.
You must not be familiar with her work then.

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Humble_Novice
05/21/24 3:20:28 PM
#65:


legendary_zell posted...
The point is the option is there for Biden. Biden is supposed to be better than Reagan. Or are we no longer allowed to expect actually good leadership from Democrats as long as Republicans are kicking puppies?
He's already being better than Reagan when it comes to progressive stuff like marijuana, or did we somehow forget about how much damage the war on drugs inflicted?

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emblem-man
05/21/24 3:21:07 PM
#66:


legendary_zell posted...
It's been wiped off the map under Biden though. All the housing, schools, hospitals, infrastructure is gone. Israel has openly proclaimed that they'll never allow Palestinian sovereignty or freedom. They've openly stated that they want all Palestinians to no longer be there through "voluntary migration" or death. All of this under Biden.

You've gotta grapple with this reality to see why people are struggling with voting for Biden. Anything less is not going to get them back.

Probably good to remember that the countries leader actively doing the bombing, Netanyahu, does not like Biden, but they like Trump and other Republicans. Their minister of defense sent a tweet saying "Hamas <3 Biden"

I personally am NOT going to abstain from voting and make it easier for Bibi and his radical group to get what they want by having Trump in office.


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Cheater87
05/21/24 3:21:37 PM
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Both candidates support this genocide, one of them happens to be an orange fascist, who wants it done at lightning speed.

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BignutzisBack
05/21/24 3:22:08 PM
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There you have it, now we can all stop being so mean to Israel

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Doe
05/21/24 3:23:20 PM
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emblem-man posted...
Probably good to remember that the countries leader actively doing the bombing, Netanyahu, does not like Biden, but they like Trump and other Republicans. Their minister of defense sent a tweet saying "Hamas <3 Biden"
Unfortunately these actions only seem to make Biden want to try harder to please them

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Shadow_Don
05/21/24 3:23:53 PM
#70:


emblem-man posted...
Probably good to remember that the countries leader actively doing the bombing, Netanyahu, does not like Biden, but they like Trump and other Republicans. Their minister of defense sent a tweet saying "Hamas <3 Biden"

I personally am NOT going to abstain from voting and make it easier for Bibi and his radical group to get what they want by having Trump in office.

I guarantee you that behind the scenes bibi and likud are cheering on these dumbfucks who want to abstain. They fucking love it.

I'm framing it that way going forward. Oh you arent voting? Bibi sends his thanks and love <3.

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Akuryu
05/21/24 3:25:00 PM
#71:


Yep, I sure am. It's hard to imagine anything Biden could do that would make his opponent more desirable.
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IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 3:25:22 PM
#72:


el_cheato posted...
I will but I'm gonna complain the whole time
And as someone that votes you're entitled to complain, it's the people that refuse to vote and still complain that are problematic

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Thanatos_the_Great
05/21/24 3:25:22 PM
#73:


Shadow_Don posted...
He is. Reagan would have US troops machinegunning kids in Gaza.

Except that's the opposite of what happend. In reality Reagan threatened to withhold US support unless Israel stopped attacking Lebanon - and Israel caved in. Biden has that influence and is choosing not to use it. You'd do well to reflect on how we got to the point where Ronald fricking Reagan was better than Biden on a major foreign policy issue.

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legendary_zell
05/21/24 3:25:34 PM
#74:


Shadow_Don posted...
He is. Reagan would have US troops machinegunning kids in Gaza.

Granted. Now can we expect Biden to do anything good here? Is that too much to ask? Because Reagan would have had boots on the ground committing atrocities, but Biden IS supplying the bombs that are killing those same kids. You could argue that's less bad, but it's still deep into "awful" territory. Is it too much to expect to get out of that territory?

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cjsdowg
05/21/24 3:26:10 PM
#75:


Southernfatman posted...
Nah, I'm not. I'm going to let the fascist win so people here in America can suffer while Palestine suffers even more. That's the totally smart thing to do.

Biden and 95% of Democrats are garbage and so is our political system. It's the only choice, sadly.

They are not going to suffer more under Trump.

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Shadow_Don
05/21/24 3:26:36 PM
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Thanatos_the_Great posted...
Except that's the opposite of what happend. In reality Reagan threatened to withhold US support unless Israel stopped attacking Lebanon - and Israel caved in.

Buddy if you think that Reagan would have done that after oct 7 with Americans killed and taken hostage you're a total joke. The situation is completely different.

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divot1338
05/21/24 3:26:41 PM
#77:


Shadow_Don posted...
I guarantee you that behind the scenes bibi and likud are cheering on these dumbfucks who want to abstain. They fucking love it.

I'm framing it that way going forward. Oh you arent voting? Bibi sends his thanks and love <3.
Im fairly sure this is the Israeli version of Russias 2016 election interference.

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WingsOfGood
05/21/24 3:27:06 PM
#78:


emblem-man posted...
Netanyahu, does not like Biden, but they like Trump and other Republicans. Their minister of defense sent a tweet saying "Hamas <3 Biden"

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Rexdragon125
05/21/24 3:28:11 PM
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TC abandoned thread I see. And the genocide joe bros are desperate to ignore that Trump's pretty much come out as a Nazi

https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1792927240776192035
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Southernfatman
05/21/24 3:28:32 PM
#80:


cjsdowg posted...
They are not going to suffer more under Trump.

Even if that were true, which it wouldn't be, what good would be having Trump in office over Biden?

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legendary_zell
05/21/24 3:29:21 PM
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divot1338 posted...
Im fairly sure this is the Israeli version of Russias 2016 election interference.

Have you guys stopped to think that it's Biden's actions and not some Israeli psyop...publicizing those actions? Maybe that's what's turning people off?

You guys are getting conspiracy brained just as much as MAGA people are, anytime people react in a way that doesn't involve reflexively voting for Democrats, you create some conspiracy theory to paper over genuine domestic divisions and different reactions to events based on different values.

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legendary_zell
05/21/24 3:30:28 PM
#82:


Rexdragon125 posted...
TC abandoned thread I see. And the genocide joe bros are desperate to ignore that Trump's pretty much come out as a Nazi

https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1792927240776192035

Biden IS Genocide Joe. And Trump IS a Nazi. Who is ignoring anything?

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emblem-man
05/21/24 3:31:09 PM
#83:


divot1338 posted...
Really because it seems like he knows exactly who actually votes.

Yep. People wanting Biden to actually end all aid and protection to Israel do not realize they it would kill his re-election. There are large amounts of people who seriously think Biden is too leftist on Israel. I don't mean maga voters, I mean legit independent/moderates.

Especially when you then consider that there are those in the left who have already said they won't vote for Biden no matter what he does now.

Hell, Bibi would be an idiot to cave into any request. He'd call the bluff and just wait until Trump is back in office.


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divot1338
05/21/24 3:31:31 PM
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So if this is Trumps third real run at the White House is it fair to call it a third reich? Since Trump is the one who opened the door on that subject?

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Shadow_Don
05/21/24 3:32:15 PM
#85:


legendary_zell posted...
Now can we expect Biden to do anything good here?

He's trying to negotiate a ceasefire with a bunch of psychopath terrorists on all sides of the conflict.

Can he go about it better? Yea probably. Arming Israel isn't helping. But he's still trying to resolve the conflict and its good that we have someone doing that vs the people who clearly and openly state that there wouldn't even be talks or negotiations, just slaughter.

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Humble_Novice
05/21/24 3:33:35 PM
#86:


Looks like TC's reputation as a shit stirrer isn't an understatement after all.

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Shadow_Don
05/21/24 3:33:42 PM
#87:


legendary_zell posted...
Have you guys stopped to think that it's Biden's actions and not some Israeli psyop

I dont think it's a payop, I just think bibi is a huge fan of what you guys are doing.

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WingsOfGood
05/21/24 3:33:59 PM
#88:


cjsdowg posted...
They are not going to suffer more under Trump.

They will actually. Trump is vocally anti-muslim. He will deport Palestinians from the USA to Gaza.
He even discusses kicking out protestors labeling them anti-semitic and un-american:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/19/politics/donald-trump-immigration-agenda/index.html
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Thanatos_the_Great
05/21/24 3:34:11 PM
#89:


Shadow_Don posted...
He's trying to negotiate a ceasefire

No he isn't. Asking nicely while using absolutely none of the enormous diplomatic and economic leverage he has is not "negotiating".

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Rexdragon125
05/21/24 3:36:17 PM
#90:


legendary_zell posted...
Biden IS Genocide Joe. And Trump IS a Nazi. Who is ignoring anything?
You, ignoring how much worse Trump will make it
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emblem-man
05/21/24 3:37:00 PM
#91:


Thanatos_the_Great posted...
No he isn't. Asking nicely while using absolutely none of the enormous diplomatic and economic leverage he has is not "negotiating".
And if Israel calls the bluff?

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Thanatos_the_Great
05/21/24 3:37:33 PM
#92:


emblem-man posted...
And if Israel calls the bluff?

The point is it shouldn't be a bluff.

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Sheiky-Baby
05/21/24 3:38:09 PM
#93:


No. Fuck him.

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cjsdowg
05/21/24 3:38:20 PM
#94:


Southernfatman posted...
Even if that were true, which it wouldn't be, what good would be having Trump in office over Biden?

I still won't Biden over Trump. However I think it is important to not act like Joe is any better than trump on this topic.

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emblem-man
05/21/24 3:38:44 PM
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Thanatos_the_Great posted...
The point is it shouldn't be a bluff.

If Biden put economic sanctions on Israel, he would lose this election. Point blank.

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cjsdowg
05/21/24 3:39:33 PM
#96:


Rexdragon125 posted...
You, ignoring how much worse Trump will make it

How would Trump make this worst. People keep saying that, but no. There is no proof at all that Trump would be worst than Biden on this.

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divot1338
05/21/24 3:39:55 PM
#97:


cjsdowg posted...
I still won't Biden over Trump. However I think it is important to not act like Joe is any better than trump on this topic.
Except he is. This isnt a black and white issue. Its all fucking gray.

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Humble_Novice
05/21/24 3:41:25 PM
#98:


Rexdragon125 posted...
You, ignoring how much worse Trump will make it
Yeah, it's clear they're conveniently steering the discussion right back to Biden whenever Trump gets mentioned.

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WingsOfGood
05/21/24 3:41:49 PM
#99:


cjsdowg posted...
to not act like Joe is any better than trump on this topic.

Joe is infact way better on this topic.

This is known by Israel themselves as stated already:

WingsOfGood posted...
Netanyahu, does not like Biden, but they like Trump and other Republicans. Their minister of defense sent a tweet saying "Hamas <3 Biden"

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Thanatos_the_Great
05/21/24 3:41:54 PM
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emblem-man posted...
If Biden put economic sanctions on Israel, he would lose this election.

If he keeps arming and funding Israel, he's going to lose this election.

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ItsNotA2Mer
05/21/24 3:42:03 PM
#101:


legendary_zell posted...
You guys are getting conspiracy brained just as much as MAGA people are

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cjsdowg
05/21/24 3:42:21 PM
#102:


WingsOfGood posted...
They will actually. Trump is vocally anti-muslim. He will deport Palestinians from the USA to Gaza.
He even discusses kicking out protestors labeling them anti-semitic and un-american:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/19/politics/donald-trump-immigration-agenda/index.html

WingsOfGood posted...
They will actually. Trump is vocally anti-muslim. He will deport Palestinians from the USA to Gaza.
He even discusses kicking out protestors labeling them anti-semitic and un-american:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/19/politics/donald-trump-immigration-agenda/index.html

Biden attacked protesters as well. They were beaten up and bloodied and Biden acted like they were the violent ones.


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