Current Events > Biden: "Whats happening in Israel isnt genocide"

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refmon
05/21/24 2:31:18 PM
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https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1792694477477310782

You still gonna vote for him arent you?

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Were_Wyrm
05/21/24 2:32:54 PM
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Yep

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Southernfatman
05/21/24 2:33:12 PM
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Nah, I'm not. I'm going to let the fascist win so people here in America can suffer while Palestine suffers even more. That's the totally smart thing to do.

Biden and 95% of Democrats are garbage and so is our political system. It's the only choice, sadly.

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Diceheist
05/21/24 2:33:42 PM
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refmon posted...
You still gonna vote for him arent you?

Lesser evil voting is an understandable tactic.

I just don't like when people bitch and whine about not everyone being onboard with it. Nobody's entitled to votes.

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el_cheato
05/21/24 2:34:51 PM
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I will but I'm gonna complain the whole time

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Kaldrenthebold
05/21/24 2:35:37 PM
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Yeah I'm voting for him and yeah I disagree with his stance here.


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Humble_Novice
05/21/24 2:35:48 PM
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refmon posted...
You still gonna vote for him aren't you?
Of course he's getting my support. Better him than Trump.

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Calwings
05/21/24 2:36:32 PM
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
Yeah I'm voting for him and yeah I disagree with his stance here.

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Squall28
05/21/24 2:37:03 PM
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Humble_Novice posted...
Better him than Trump


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Shadow_Don
05/21/24 2:37:21 PM
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Anyone not voting for him is a clown and doesn't give a fuck about kids in Gaza.

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ellis123
05/21/24 2:37:41 PM
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Heineken14
05/21/24 2:37:47 PM
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refmon posted...
You still gonna vote for him arent you?

Correct, because the other option is Donnie who is magnitudes worse. Was this supposed to be some sort of gotcha?

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Serious_Cat
05/21/24 2:37:48 PM
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refmon posted...
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1792694477477310782

You still gonna vote for him arent you?
Yes. Even if my decision were down to just this issue, Trump does not have better views and is not better suited to handle it.

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Smashingpmkns
05/21/24 2:38:18 PM
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Dude's pulling the ol Bill Clinton here.

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el_cheato
05/21/24 2:39:19 PM
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fuck man I'd vote for a horse if it meant continuing aid to ukraine

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Diceheist
05/21/24 2:40:18 PM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Anyone not voting for him is a clown and doesn't give a fuck about kids in Gaza.

By that logic anyone who didn't vote for a non-Israel supporter in the primary (ex. Marianne Williamson) is a clown and doesn't give a fuck about Gaza.

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el_cheato
05/21/24 2:41:01 PM
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Diceheist posted...
By that logic anyone who didn't vote for a non-Israel supporter in the primary (ex. Marianne Williamson) is a clown and doesn't give a fuck about Gaza.
the primaries are over and despite protests our choices are now set before us.

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ellis123
05/21/24 2:41:12 PM
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Diceheist posted...
By that logic anyone who didn't vote for a non-Israel supporter in the primary (ex. Marianne Williamson) is a clown and doesn't give a fuck about Gaza.
It doesn't, no.

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Shadow_Don
05/21/24 2:41:19 PM
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Diceheist posted...
By that logic anyone who didn't vote for a non-Israel supporter in the primary (ex. Marianne Williamson) is a clown and doesn't give a fuck about Gaza.

Marianne Williamson is a joke lmfao.

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ItsNotA2Mer
05/21/24 2:41:47 PM
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refmon posted...
You still gonna vote for him arent you?

Yes.
He's absolutely on the wrong side of this, but I'm not a single issue voter, (and I have much deeper concerns about what's currently happening in the US).

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Smashingpmkns
05/21/24 2:42:10 PM
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Most people voting for Biden explicitly do not give a shit about kids in Gaza lol I'll vote for that sack of shit but let's not kid ourselves here. Both options are incredibly awful for Palestine because America is awful for Palestine. Saying one is better than the other is saying absolutely nothing in this regard.

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fsurb28
05/21/24 2:42:16 PM
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refmon posted...
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1792694477477310782

You still gonna vote for him arent you?
How about you explain to us so kindly, with facts, how Trump is the better vote.

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TimeForAction
05/21/24 2:42:38 PM
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Yes
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Doe
05/21/24 2:44:46 PM
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It sucks that Joe Biden is evil and he's still not the worst candidate on the ballot.

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legendary_zell
05/21/24 2:46:06 PM
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He'll be damned in history for this. All of American society will be, regardless of who wins because our democracy is so degraded that we're left with no anti-genocide option on the ballot. This election is genuinely sickening. There's only evil and more evil.

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littlebro07
05/21/24 2:47:19 PM
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refmon posted...
You still gonna vote for him arent you?

Option A: Conflict between Israel and Palestine keeps going with the potential for it to calm down some
Option B: Palestine gets wiped off the fucking map and life in the US gets worse for everyone who's not a white Christian male

Yeah, I'll vote for Biden.

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BDSMKane
05/21/24 2:48:33 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
He'll be damned in history for this. All of American society will be, regardless of who wins because our democracy is so degraded that we're left with no anti-genocide option on the ballot. This is the third PotUS election in a row that is genuinely sickening. There's only evil and more evil.
I fixed that for you. We can cry together if it helps.

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divot1338
05/21/24 2:50:29 PM
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refmon posted...
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1792694477477310782

You still gonna vote for him arent you?
Yep.

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CountCorvinus
05/21/24 2:51:08 PM
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I live in a state where I unfortunately do not have the privilege to cast a protest vote, so I'm voting for harm reduction.

November is still months away and both candidates are old as fuck and in poor health. Maybe we'll get lucky.

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ReiRei89
05/21/24 2:51:22 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Most people voting for Biden explicitly do not give a shit about kids in Gaza lol I'll vote for that sack of shit but let's not kid ourselves here. Both options are incredibly awful for Palestine because America is awful for Palestine. Saying one is better than the other is saying absolutely nothing in this regard.
Trump actively wants to shell the hell out of Gaza and open a hotel there, Biden doesn't. One is obviously worse than the other.

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TheHoldSteady
05/21/24 2:51:35 PM
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Biden could physically assault my grandma and I'd still vote him over Trump.

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legendary_zell
05/21/24 2:52:04 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
Option A: Conflict between Israel and Palestine keeps going with the potential for it to calm down some
Option B: Palestine gets wiped off the fucking map and life in the US gets worse for everyone who's not a white Christian male

Yeah, I'll vote for Biden.


It's been wiped off the map under Biden though. All the housing, schools, hospitals, infrastructure is gone. Israel has openly proclaimed that they'll never allow Palestinian sovereignty or freedom. They've openly stated that they want all Palestinians to no longer be there through "voluntary migration" or death. All of this under Biden.

You've gotta grapple with this reality to see why people are struggling with voting for Biden. Anything less is not going to get them back.

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rick_alverado
05/21/24 2:52:10 PM
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I most certainly am not voting for him. I understand the people who are voting for him as the lesser of two evils, but I am also thankful I don't have to make such a choice.
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Humble_Novice
05/21/24 2:53:10 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
It's been wiped off the map under Biden though. All the housing, schools, hospitals, infrastructure is gone. Israel has openly proclaimed that they'll never allow Palestinian sovereignty or freedom. They've openly stated that they want all Palestinians to no longer be there through "voluntary migration" or death. All of this under Biden.

You've gotta grapple with this reality to see why people are struggling with voting for Biden. Anything less is not going to get them back.
True, but are Americans really willing to give up what freedoms and liberties they have just to stick it to Biden out of spite?

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MrMolinaro
05/21/24 2:54:32 PM
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Really disappointing statement, but Biden will still be better for reconstruction efforts in Gaza than Trump, who would already be picking out a spot to build a hotel.

He just needs to shut up about the issue if he cant get in line with the base of the party. This speech is going to come back to haunt him on the campaign trail.
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divot1338
05/21/24 2:55:00 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
It's been wiped off the map under Biden though. All the housing, schools, hospitals, infrastructure is gone. Israel has openly proclaimed that they'll never allow Palestinian sovereignty or freedom. They've openly stated that they want all Palestinians to no longer be there through "voluntary migration" or death. All of this under Biden.

You've gotta grapple with this reality to see why people are struggling with voting for Biden. Anything less is not going to get them back.
No it wasnt. Biden is not in charge of Israel.

This is a teenager problem. Which is when you have a teenager who realizes they can ignore their parents as long as they also ignore all of the punishments.

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StarFighters76
05/21/24 2:55:51 PM
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refmon posted...
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1792694477477310782

You still gonna vote for him arent you?

You gonna say Trump will be better at handling this?

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Smashingpmkns
05/21/24 2:56:28 PM
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ReiRei89 posted...
Trump actively wants to shell the hell out of Gaza and open a hotel there, Biden doesn't. One is obviously worse than the other.
By election day there will be nothing to shell. Their infrastructure is gone. Hospitals, schools, etc. Gone. Biden might not want to build a hotel there but he sure as shit helped clear out the space for one.

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legendary_zell
05/21/24 2:57:27 PM
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Humble_Novice posted...
True, but are Americans really willing to give up what freedoms and liberties they have just to stick it to Biden out of spite?

Spite is not the same thing as disgust or shame. It's not about self sabotage or spite, it's about not being able to leave your house to go pull the lever to vote IN FAVOR of someone who facilitated what you just said is true. To not want to sign onto a historic crime and say "yeah, I voted in favor of the guy who helped cause that for domestic reasons." Even if those domestic reasons are completely valid.

It's causing genuine anguish for people to be asked to do that and even being asked to do that calls our whole "democracy" into question.

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Deyestus
05/21/24 2:57:27 PM
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I don't like how he's handled this situation, and yes, I'm voting for him, and blue all down ballot.

I don't play silly political games with peoples' lives.

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WingsOfGood
05/21/24 2:59:04 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
"yeah, I voted in favor of the guy who helped cause that for domestic reasons." Even if those domestic reasons are completely valid.

It isn't just domestic reasons Trump already will deport Palestinian refugees.

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Shadow_Don
05/21/24 3:01:15 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
It isn't just domestic reasons Trump already will deport Palestinian refugees.

Think about that. Where will he deport them to?

All Muslims and undocumented immigrants.

And they've talked about literally deporting them to Gaza and then follow up stating that they want to wipe Gaza off the map.

And they've talked about going door to door with these deportation police.

Its so fucking crazy to think about. Like if you think its too hard and morally anguishing to pull a lever then I hope your ready to spill blood in the streets.

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Humble_Novice
05/21/24 3:02:23 PM
#46:


Shadow_Don posted...
All Muslims and undocumented immigrants.

And they've talked about literally deporting them to Gaza and then state that they want to wipe Gaza off the map.

And they've talked about going door to door with these deportation police.
At least with Biden at the helm, Muslim immigrants and refugees still have the right to criticize him and organize as many protests as they can.

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legendary_zell
05/21/24 3:03:10 PM
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divot1338 posted...
No it wasnt. Biden is not in charge of Israel.

This is a teenager problem. Which is when you have a teenager who realizes they can ignore their parents as long as they also ignore all of the punishments.

Israel is a military outpost/client state of the US. We provide them with their international cover for getting away with being a rogue apartheid state. We provide them with a huge portion of their military funding. We have a history of checking them by threatening to pull that funding, even under Reagan. We have a long history of forcing other countries to do what we want them to do through diplomacy, sanctions, financial pressure, covert action, and military force. We haven't been shy about using that power in other instances. This stuff could not be happening if Biden turned the screws on. They can only act with such impunity with US backing.

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WingsOfGood
05/21/24 3:03:11 PM
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Shadow_Don posted...


And they've talked about literally deporting them to Gaza and then state that they want to wipe Gaza off the map.

So if you care about Palestinians you will vote Biden over Trump. That seems very cut and dry.

Trump literally desires to take Palestinians who are safe here and deport them to Gaza to die.

Not only that but there is also reports that college protestors on the side of Gaza will be labeled communists and done things to as well.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/19/politics/donald-trump-immigration-agenda/index.html

In his campaign speeches, the former president has pledged to dramatically expand ideological screening, use federal law to deny entry to all communists and Marxists, and to revoke the visas of radical anti-American and antisemitic foreigners enrolled at US colleges and universities.


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HairyQueen
05/21/24 3:03:51 PM
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Yes

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divot1338
05/21/24 3:06:38 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Israel is a military outpost/client state of the US. We provide them with their international cover for getting away with being a rogue apartheid state. We provide them with a huge portion of their military funding. We have a history of checking them by threatening to pull that funding, even under Reagan. We have a long history of forcing other countries to do what we want them to do through diplomacy, sanctions, financial pressure, covert action, and military force. We haven't been shy about using that power in other instances. This stuff could not be happening if Biden turned the screws on. They can only act with such impunity with US backing.
Biden doesnt even have control of his own funding.

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creativerealms
05/21/24 3:06:41 PM
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Yes it is Biden and you are helping it.


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