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Kami_no_Kami
05/22/24 7:07:27 PM
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I have limited exposure to him personally, but in my experience, he was never that funny. For whatever reason, I never even got into his show, but Id watch the clips that people were freaking out over at the time (Lil Jon, Clayton Bigsby, etc), and it always seemed too overly goofy for me.

I remember watching his stand-up on Comedy Central back in the day too and not being terribly impressed.
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ooger
05/22/24 7:15:34 PM
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Only if this was 2004 instead of 2024.

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Cocytus
05/22/24 8:45:28 PM
#53:


AceMos posted...
to people who think he is still funny

what is funny about his transphobic jokes
Thinking of his entire act

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Cocytus
05/22/24 8:47:00 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
Is Charlie Sheen even getting roles anymore? I swear I haven't seen him since he got booted off of Two and a Half Men
He got hiv.

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bfslick50
05/22/24 8:59:59 PM
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He doesnt seem to try as hard anymore. More gripes than jokes.

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PowerMan5000000
05/22/24 9:32:22 PM
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Hes one of the best

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BaphometFlux
05/22/24 9:32:47 PM
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Nirvanas_Nox posted...
He used to be. Now he's not


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KitKats
05/22/24 9:41:48 PM
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Haha no, but hes a really great barometer to find out who is blatantly transphobic by the kind of people who unironically think Chappelles bigoted meltdowns are the funniest thing ever

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DnDer
05/22/24 9:53:30 PM
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Cocytus posted...
Is he funny?

Good comedian and funny aren't always the same thing.

Also, good comedians don't punch down, so if he ever was a good comedian, he's not anymore.

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bigblu89
05/22/24 9:57:41 PM
#62:


AceMos posted...
to people who think he is still funny

what is funny about his transphobic jokes
He has other jokes.

In his last stand up, the bit he did about when he was almost attacked at Hollywood Bowl was amusing.

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Toonstrack
05/22/24 9:58:14 PM
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DnDer posted...
Good comedian and funny aren't always the same thing.

Theres funny comedians that aren't good, but there's no good comedians that isnt funny.

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Gobstoppers12
05/22/24 10:01:10 PM
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DnDer posted...
Also, good comedians don't punch down
Good comedians can punch in every direction. There aren't actually any rules for what makes a good comedian apart from "makes the audience laugh", it all comes down to an individual's subjective sense of humor.

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bigblu89
05/22/24 10:01:34 PM
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DnDer posted...
Good comedian and funny aren't always the same thing.

Also, good comedians don't punch down, so if he ever was a good comedian, he's not anymore.
He always punched down. He just punched down on subjects we were OK with being punched down in a time when punch down humor wasnt seen as that big of a deal.

Like, to many, he was approaching GOAT status when he was doing punch down jokes and his subjects were poor, black, drug addicts.

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VFalcone
05/22/24 10:04:54 PM
#66:


Is Dave Chappelle a good comedian?

Everyone in the thread:
"No/Not anymore"

Poll results:
72.67% Yes

Who is voting? I'm super curious, lol
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bigblu89
05/22/24 10:08:01 PM
#67:


VFalcone posted...


Who is voting? I'm super curious, lol
People that probably arent interested in facing the mob by giving their reasons why they still think hes funny.

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Enclave
05/22/24 10:10:21 PM
#68:


VFalcone posted...
Is Dave Chappelle a good comedian?

Everyone in the thread:
"No/Not anymore"

Poll results:
72.67% Yes

Who is voting? I'm super curious, lol

Plenty of people have access to here that don't actually post here.

Personally I didn't vote because I don't feel either answer is accurate since he used to be incredible but now sucks.

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Baha05
05/22/24 10:11:24 PM
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Nirvanas_Nox posted...
He used to be. Now he's not


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SMAP-
05/22/24 10:18:56 PM
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Honestly I always found him extremely overrated and the last 5 or so years have not done anything to sway me

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VRX3000
05/22/24 10:18:59 PM
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I never really even liked his show. Like okay. Prince is in a basketball game. And prince can slam dunk. Why is this funny? Does prince notoriously hate basketball?

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Vicious_Dios
05/22/24 10:23:17 PM
#72:


Absolutely. He's in my top 5 Living Comedians right now.

1. Bill Burr
2. Nate Bargatze
3. Mark Normand
4. Dave Chapelle
5. Theo Von

Deceased

1. Norm MacDonald
2. Patrice O'Neal
3. Mitch Hedberg


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BrohammedAli
05/22/24 10:29:05 PM
#73:


He's mostly just boring anymore.

He's the kind of dude who thinks his work is too smart for his audience despite mostly being pretty damn predictable, and he's successful enough that he finds his work infallible. Like his whole trans shtick is because he got called out on an unfunny joke so now he has to show us just how "funny" it is.


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DnDer
05/22/24 10:33:07 PM
#74:


pinky0926 posted...
I mean he got booted off the easiest job in the world (literally just had to show up on set and be himself) because he was too difficult and unreliable to work with. I can't imagine anyone wants to work with him after that.

RDJ (eventually) had a redemption arc. Even Paul Rubens was getting his feet back under him, little by little.

There's space for coming back from rock bottom. But it takes a long, long time.

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Toonstrack
05/23/24 1:45:07 AM
#75:


bigblu89 posted...
He always punched down. He just punched down on subjects we were OK with being punched down in a time when punch down humor wasnt seen as that big of a deal.

Like, to many, he was approaching GOAT status when he was doing punch down jokes and his subjects were poor, black, drug addicts.

This is facts and no one wants to have this conversation.

He didn't change tactics that much. He just changed his target.

Thats why ultimately a lot of the outrage in response even if it comes from a good place(and hes not helped the situation by doubling down) kinda has rung hollow to me.

That being said. He was more creative when he had the outlet of doing skits.

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KitKats
05/23/24 3:58:00 AM
#76:


Toonstrack posted...
This is facts and no one wants to have this conversation.

He didn't change tactics that much. He just changed his target.

Thats why ultimately a lot of the outrage in response even if it comes from a good place(and hes not helped the situation by doubling down) kinda has rung hollow to me.

That being said. He was more creative when he had the outlet of doing skits.
Im sorry, but this does not pass the sniff test.

He has not attacked his own community like he has attacked the LGBT+ community. Can you show me where he unironically states Im team racism! like when he stated Im team terf and sided with JK Rowling?

I dont think so.

Can you show me where he dedicated entire blocks of full length Netflix specials to launching attacks like he has done on the LGBT+ community, then fumbled to misappropriate art as a shield for being openly bigoted and hostile? These are his genuine beliefs, airing his grudges, using his platform and power very irresponsibly to harm vulnerable members of the public and shape social attitudes.

You dont have a leg to stand on about this. Its not exactly a secret here that you dont support the trans community where you feel criticism of his open bigotry and hostility rings hollow. You should be more genuine to yourself and to us.

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trappedunderice
05/23/24 4:52:28 AM
#77:


Dave chappelle is one of the best stand up comedians to ever hold a mic.
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kind9
05/23/24 4:56:37 AM
#78:


I liked his first two comedy specials. His last one that I saw barely got a chuckle out of me.

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TimeForAction
05/23/24 4:57:43 AM
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He never really had a Twitter mob of check marks back in his golden days when his subjects were those we were cool with trashing. He really just needs to disregard the haters as insignificant and keep on rolling. Thats been his big knock
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bigblu89
05/23/24 7:29:58 AM
#80:


KitKats posted...
Im sorry, but this does not pass the sniff test.

He has not attacked his own community like he has attacked the LGBT+ community. Can you show me where he unironically states Im team racism! like when he stated Im team terf and sided with JK Rowling?

I dont think so.

Can you show me where he dedicated entire blocks of full length Netflix specials to launching attacks like he has done on the LGBT+ community, then fumbled to misappropriate art as a shield for being openly bigoted and hostile? These are his genuine beliefs, airing his grudges, using his platform and power very irresponsibly to harm vulnerable members of the public and shape social attitudes.

You dont have a leg to stand on about this. Its not exactly a secret here that you dont support the trans community where you feel criticism of his open bigotry and hostility rings hollow. You should be more genuine to yourself and to us.
He didnt have to defend those jokes because no one took issue with them.

He just doubled down on them and people kept laughing

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GujinKami
05/23/24 7:44:03 AM
#81:


Nirvanas_Nox posted...
He used to be. Now he's not
People are either really showing their age or displaying their favorism towards specific, marginalized groups. Back in his prime the bulk of his jokes were exclusively about race (mostly African Americans) and around every single aspect of their Americanized stereotypes ramped up to 11. Nowadays it's the same exact thing except replace race with sexuality.

It's the same exact shit, with the only difference being he's not part of the marginalized group his punchlines are targeting (which still isn't all that abnormal since he did make fun of Hispanics and Asians as well) and either people are just upset that they're being made fun of in some capacity, or they have some heavy rose tinted glasses on.

It would be a lot more consistent if people just said he was always a bad comedian rather than implying he was only funny when he was making fun of black people.

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ooger
05/23/24 8:37:24 AM
#82:


GujinKami posted...
People are either really showing their age or displaying their favorism towards specific, marginalized groups. Back in his prime the bulk of his jokes were exclusively about race (mostly African Americans) and around every single aspect of their Americanized stereotypes ramped up to 11. Nowadays it's the same exact thing except replace race with sexuality.

It's the same exact shit, with the only difference being he's not part of the marginalized group his punchlines are targeting (which still isn't all that abnormal since he did make fun of Hispanics and Asians as well) and either people are just upset that they're being made fun of in some capacity, or they have some heavy rose tinted glasses on.

It would be a lot more consistent if people just said he was always a bad comedian rather than implying he was only funny when he was making fun of black people.

This may come as a complete shocker to you.

You might want to sit down.

Chappelle's Show was on 21 years ago.

People, and society, change a lot over two decades.

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R1masher
05/23/24 8:44:39 AM
#83:


Structurally his jokes are well constructed, whether the content is funny is subjective

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bigblu89
05/23/24 8:46:11 AM
#84:


ooger posted...


People, and society, change a lot over two decades.
The fact that Chapelle can still sell out arenas, have someone like Dave Grohl invite him on stage to perform with Foo Fighters, and get a Netflix special whenever he wants one forces me to ask

Have we?

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ooger
05/23/24 8:48:05 AM
#85:


bigblu89 posted...
The fact that Chapelle can still sell out arenas, have someone like Dave Grohl invite him on stage to perform with Foo Fighters, and get a Netflix special whenever he wants one forces me to ask

Have we?

Remember when Dave brought out Musk so that Musk could shout "I'm rich bitch!" and got boooooh'd?

CRINGE.

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KiwiTerraRizing
05/23/24 8:48:22 AM
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Yes, but hes starting to get more applause than laughs.

When youre that big of a star you dont get honest feedback on the stuff that doesnt work. People clap instead of boo.

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Phantom36
05/23/24 8:50:17 AM
#87:


Nirvanas_Nox posted...
He used to be. Now he's not

Concur

Some of his old standups had me in tears from laughing so hard. One of only 2 comedians to that for me, Carlin being the only other

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bigblu89
05/23/24 8:50:20 AM
#88:


ooger posted...
Remember when Dave brought out Musk so that Musk could shout "I'm rich bitch!" and got boooooh'd?

CRINGE.
What does that have to do with Chappelles continued popularity?

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GujinKami
05/23/24 8:50:41 AM
#89:


ooger posted...
This may come as a complete shocker to you.

You might want to sit down.

Chappelle's Show was on 21 years ago.

People, and society, change a lot over two decades.
So whats your point here? 21 years ago it was okay to make fun of other races? It can't be that there's a completely different crowd otherwise
bigblu89 posted...
The fact that Chapelle can still sell out arenas, have someone like Dave Grohl invite him on stage to perform with Foo Fighters, and get a Netflix special whenever he wants one forces me to ask

Have we?
what he said would be completely false, which it absolutely isn't.

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bigblu89
05/23/24 8:53:44 AM
#90:


KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Yes, but hes starting to get more applause than laughs.

When youre that big of a star you dont get honest feedback on the stuff that doesnt work. People clap instead of boo.
I feel like thats the case with most comics that do any sort of real societal comedy.

Whether its a a guy like Lewis Black or Jon Stewart joking about Trump, or Roseanne or some other MAGAt going off about those damn liberals, comedy that gets applause instead of laughs really isnt comedy.

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ooger
05/23/24 8:54:52 AM
#91:


GujinKami posted...
So whats your point here? 21 years ago it was okay to make fun of other races? It can't be that there's a completely different crowd otherwise

what he said would be completely false, which it absolutely isn't.
Chappelle doesn't read gamefaqs.

He won't befriend you for showing that you are incapable of growing over the course of 21 years.

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KiwiTerraRizing
05/23/24 8:55:54 AM
#92:


bigblu89 posted...
I feel like thats the case with most comics that do any sort of real societal comedy.

Whether its a a guy like Lewis Black or Jon Stewart joking about Trump, or Roseanne or some other MAGAt going off about those damn liberals, comedy that gets applause instead of laughs really isnt comedy.

Yep, people dont like to hear it but happened to Carlin the last 10 years of his life. It was just rants, made you think but rarely funny.


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ooger
05/23/24 8:57:07 AM
#93:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdBga225HBk


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TimeForAction
05/23/24 8:57:40 AM
#94:


You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
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GujinKami
05/23/24 8:58:12 AM
#95:


ooger posted...
Chappelle doesn't read gamefaqs.

He won't befriend you for showing that you are incapable of growing over the course of 21 years.
??? What the hell are you talking about? I'm just pointing out a double standard, since a large chunk of this thread is "he was funny then, he isn't funny now!" when, again, all he did was set his sights on another marginalized group.

All I'm seeing is a ton of self reports ITT of people saying "it's not okay to make fun of trans people BUT it is okay to make fun of black people."

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R1masher
05/23/24 8:59:44 AM
#96:


ooger posted...
Chappelle doesn't read gamefaqs.

He won't befriend you for showing that you are incapable of growing over the course of 21 years.

are you just making stuff up or can you prove any of this?

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ooger
05/23/24 9:01:34 AM
#97:


R1masher posted...
are you just making stuff up or can you prove any of this?
You'll have to do your own research.

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Whiterun_Guard_
05/23/24 9:01:44 AM
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sure

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ooger
05/23/24 9:02:26 AM
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GujinKami posted...
??? What the hell are you talking about? I'm just pointing out a double standard, since a large chunk of this thread is "he was funny then, he isn't funny now!" when, again, all he did was set his sights on another marginalized group.

All I'm seeing is a ton of self reports ITT of people saying "it's not okay to make fun of trans people BUT it is okay to make fun of black people."

All I'm seeing is that you don't understand the concept of the passage of time.

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bigblu89
05/23/24 9:09:13 AM
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ooger posted...
All I'm seeing is that you don't understand the concept of the passage of time.

So, you're ok when people say that his show was funny, despite a majority of it was humor based on making fun of groups that were (and still are) marginalized?

Like, it's OK that he used to make fun of marginalized groups, but it's not OK that he still does.

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