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vycebrand2 05/22/24 8:46:13 PM #51: |
Euripides posted...
Still mindblowing that he has published exactly zero more GoT books since BEFORE THE SHOW EVEN STARTED12 years --- I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 05/22/24 8:47:22 PM #52: |
Us mere mortals will never see Winds of Winter.
And the universe will experience heat death long before A Dream of Spring becomes reality. --- "I dreamt I was a moron." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 05/22/24 8:50:43 PM #53: |
LightningAce11 posted...
It just seems like hes bored of the main story and just wants to do side content.That's been the case for a long time. Crazy that he's written more books set in the asoiaf universe over the last few years, but none of them continue the "Game of Thrones" plot line. He's not tired of writing the world, he just has no idea how to end it. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 05/22/24 8:52:56 PM #54: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
He's not tired of writing the world, he just has no idea how to end it.Sure he does. He just didn't like how everyone reacted to his ending, so now he's scrambling* to change it. * --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 05/22/24 8:55:35 PM #55: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9e06eccd.jpg
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vycebrand2 05/22/24 9:01:07 PM #56: |
DrizztLink posted...
Sure he does.I was out at season 6, and I'm a book fan. --- I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alteres 05/22/24 9:02:56 PM #57: |
archizzy posted...
another spin of the wheel my ass *I am actually legit angry right now >_> there was even a topic awhile ago about your biggest disappointment in fiction and I had so thoroughly forgotten about this it didnt register damnit --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tripleh213 05/22/24 9:23:22 PM #58: |
Rika_Furude posted...
The book is never coming out, give up --- Bucks World Champions 2021 PS4 looks great ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crazyman93 05/22/24 9:50:33 PM #59: |
Honestly, I've been assuming that Game of Thrones actually followed his plot fairly accurately and he's been having to rewrite Winds of Winter because everyone hated how GoT ended.
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Kami_no_Kami 05/22/24 9:51:11 PM #60: |
He says something like this whenever he has a new project to promote. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 05/22/24 9:51:54 PM #61: |
Crazyman93 posted...
Honestly, I've been assuming that Game of Thrones actually followed his plot fairly accurately and he's been having to rewrite Winds of Winter because everyone hated how GoT ended.I'm not really sure how anyone that's actually read it could think that. There are way too many plots and characters that were cut or changed entirely. --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9-13900k | 64GB DDR5-6000 | RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Beany 05/22/24 9:53:55 PM #62: |
s0nicfan posted...
I hope in like 30 years nobody remembers his name and his books are just another random unfinished fantasy series sitting next to all the other ones on bookstore shelves. The man doesn't deserve a "legacy" at this point. He deserves to be forgotten. 100% get where youre coming from but honestly hes just too good a writer to be forgotten. Im as sad as anyone that the series will almost certainly go unfinished but even incomplete its in the upper echelon of fantasy series ever created. Much as it pisses me off to be left hanging, what he created is too damn good to be brushed away. The more I dive into the series, the more I see how much of a genius GRR is. If anything, I foresee it just adding to his legacy as time goes on. A legendary what if. Also to other comments about the reception to the shows ending, I think the broad strokes would be the same since he apparently gave those to D&D, but lets be real the way things ended up make much more sense in the books and could potentially be set up way better and be much, much more satisfying. Just my opinion but I dont think that factors into his procrastination much. I think the simple answer is that he got mega-rich and famous late in life and naturally got complacent. Dont really blame him at all, and Im happy we got what we got. --- "It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the Moon if it were made of ribs?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toonstrack 05/22/24 9:55:48 PM #63: |
Im not invested, I just hope all who are have already made peace with the fact the show ending is going to be the only one you ever get.
He has zero incentive to actually finish these gd books and hes old af. Its never getting finished. --- The succotash is suffering. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sir_Will 05/22/24 9:57:26 PM #64: |
darkace77450 posted...
Because he doesn't want to piss off people who might otherwise watch the myriad shows he's producing.Bingo. He will string people along as long as he can. He has not intention of finishing anything. He's content with the shows now. He's rich now, he doesn't need to care. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baha05 05/22/24 10:15:21 PM #66: |
Insert iZombie clip here
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LonelyStoner 05/22/24 10:16:53 PM #67: |
That lazy fuck will never finish the core material.
Stephen King made him look like an absolute fool in their interview together. Martin: You write every day??? King: Uhhhyeah? Its my job. --- He's all alone through the day and night. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Freddie_Mercury 05/22/24 10:24:16 PM #68: |
Crazyman93 posted...
Honestly, I've been assuming that Game of Thrones actually followed his plot fairly accurately and he's been having to rewrite Winds of Winter because everyone hated how GoT ended. why do people who've never read the books keep saying this --- just another freak in the freak kingdom ... Copied to Clipboard!
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008Zulu 05/22/24 10:32:40 PM #69: |
LightningAce11 posted...
Todd Howard: Let's hire this guy! --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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archizzy 05/22/24 10:35:14 PM #70: |
Crazyman93 posted...
Honestly, I've been assuming that Game of Thrones actually followed his plot fairly accurately and he's been having to rewrite Winds of Winter because everyone hated how GoT ended. The first season of the show did follow it fairly well. In fact certain scenes and dialogue were literally page for page out of the book but as the story expanded and more characters and lands were introduced things were changed a lot. Some things were completely ignored, some were changed, some characters merged into one, ages were changed, all kinds of things drastically changed in some scenarios. Obviously a tv series can never keep up with a book series when it comes to details so the longer the show went on and the more the story advanced the more it became different from the book to me. Everyone wants to complain about the final season but I thought things were off the rails about season 4 but at that point I just completely ignored everything about the books and the characters and simply just tried to enjoy it as the show it was and for the most part I did. I really enjoyed some of the character portrayals and seeing them brought to life. My two favorite characters in the books are Tyrion and The Hound and I thought both were portrayed enjoyably on screen. They didn't always do well on the characters but I felt they did well on those two. --- PSN ID: sled_dogs76 60" Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO151FD, Yamaha RX-V3900 A/V Receiver, Oppo DV983-H player. Coming soon: 2 Seaton Submersives from Mark Seaton ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Beany 05/22/24 10:40:32 PM #71: |
LonelyStoner posted...
That lazy fuck will never finish the core material. Lol true archizzy posted... The first season of the show did follow it fairly well. In fact certain scenes and dialogue were literally page for page out of the book but as the story expanded and more characters and lands were introduced things were changed a lot. D&D clearly were averse to the more fantastical parts of the series, I wish theyd given up control after season 4 to some show runners who might have done justice to the increasingly elaborate and mythical story being told. Euron is a big example of a character butchered by their lack of interest in such things. I, too, count The Hound and Tyrion among my favorite characters and youre right they were portrayed well, but they also got butchered in the last few seasons. Their arcs in the books have so much more potential and are so much more interesting than what the show ended up doing with them. e: off-topic but Ill add that House of the Dragon is missing characters like Tyrion that add a little fun/levity in the face of the macabre nature of the story. --- "It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the Moon if it were made of ribs?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivany2008 05/22/24 10:51:11 PM #73: |
The question now is: Who will finish their story first? George R R Martin with Song of Ice and Fire? or Togashi with Hunter X Hunter? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VRX3000 05/22/24 10:53:35 PM #74: |
Ivany2008 posted...
The question now is: Who will finish their story first? George R R Martin with Song of Ice and Fire? or Togashi with Hunter X Hunter? hunter x hunter. --- ~ my improv troupe ~ www.forgetfulsquirrels.com ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 05/22/24 10:54:28 PM #75: |
Hunter X Hunter actually has chapters release sometimes ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivany2008 05/22/24 11:53:09 PM #76: |
Rika_Furude posted... Hunter X Hunter actually has chapters release sometimes the last chapter was released in December, and that was essentially 1 volume of the manga after a 4 year hiatus where he was writing literally nothing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 05/22/24 11:54:32 PM #77: |
Ivany2008 posted...
the last chapter was released in December, and that was essentially 1 volume of the manga after a 4 year hiatus where he was writing literally nothing.Still more than GRRM has produced. --- THE Ohio State: 11-2 | Las Vegas Raiders: 8-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 05/23/24 7:56:39 AM #78: |
Togashi at least has a good reason, he has suffered from chronic back pain for years, so their are long stretches when he can't draw at all.
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mystic_belmont 05/23/24 8:10:43 AM #79: |
I've just accepted that the books are never coming out.
Martin is obviously done with the main series, it's why he keeps doing other projects. And I get it, that's perfectly okay. But, he needs to be honest with people. Perhaps hand it off to a ghost writer, have them write a chapter or so, and then he goes through it with notes. What will probably happen is he dies before he finishes the series, and then someone else hired by his estate finishes it. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bass 05/23/24 8:12:04 AM #80: |
Yeah, sure George. We totally believe you this time.
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Euripides 05/23/24 9:19:53 AM #81: |
He made the story way too complicated and doesn't know how to resolve the two dozen storylines he's created. Some purists slam the TV show for combining characters and cutting storylines, but the books are a real mess.
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darkace77450 05/23/24 10:07:23 AM #82: |
ScazarMeltex posted... Or the last 2 seasons could have just been full 10 episode seasons. Which would give you an extra 7 episodes. It wouldn't have mattered how long the last two seasons were. Once D&D decided to omit ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkace77450 05/23/24 10:17:54 AM #83: |
Crazyman93 posted... Honestly, I've been assuming that Game of Thrones actually followed his plot fairly accurately and he's been having to rewrite Winds of Winter because everyone hated how GoT ended. It didn't. The omission of certain characters diverted the show's plot from the books' a great deal. archizzy posted... My two favorite characters in the books are Tyrion and The Hound and I thought both were portrayed enjoyably on screen. They didn't always do well on the characters but I felt they did well on those two. I thought Tyrion was handled poorly in the last half of the show. The writers and especially Dinklage captures his wit in early seasons, but they didn't give him much to do and completely whitewashed his darker side in the latter seasons. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeCh0nk 05/23/24 10:28:11 AM #84: |
darkace77450 posted...
I thought Tyrion was handled poorly in the last half of the show. The writers and especially Dinklage captures his wit in early seasons, but they didn't give him much to do and completely whitewashed his darker side in the latter seasons.Seasons 6-8 in a nutshell --- @('_')@ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ironman2009 05/23/24 10:29:33 AM #85: |
Season 6-8 tyrion was reduced to dick jokes almost exclusively. He fuckin sucked
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Sir_Will 05/23/24 2:49:13 PM #86: |
Euripides posted...
He made the story way too complicated and doesn't know how to resolve the two dozen storylines he's created. Some purists slam the TV show for combining characters and cutting storylines, but the books are a real mess.Too many characters. Too many new POV characters. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seaman_Prime 05/23/24 2:52:10 PM #87: |
Kami_no_Kami posted... He says something like this whenever he has a new project to promote.This. All he cares about is milking this series ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterpug53 05/23/24 2:57:56 PM #88: |
Things that will happen before we get Winds of Winter:
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voldothegr8 05/23/24 3:12:05 PM #89: |
masterpug53 posted...
Things that will happen before we get Winds of Winter:Don't forget Metroid Prime 4 --- THE Ohio State: 11-2 | Las Vegas Raiders: 8-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivany2008 05/23/24 4:27:14 PM #90: |
creativerealms posted... Togashi at least has a good reason, he has suffered from chronic back pain for years, so their are long stretches when he can't draw at all. I mean you say that, but even lesser Mangaka hire people on to do most of the work. From what I remember he's only recently allowed juniors to be on his staff, though I might be wrong about that. I do know however that he's tasked his wife with finishing it if he can't do it. She did Sailor Moon. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 05/23/24 4:57:58 PM #91: |
Sir_Will posted...
Too many characters. Too many new POV characters. It's spread too thin. The first few books worked because they were still mostly on Westeros (with just Dany in Essos). Now there's characters all over the fucking place, with Martin adding MORE characters as he goes --- he/him/his ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 05/23/24 5:20:19 PM #92: |
Ivany2008 posted...
I mean you say that, but even lesser Mangaka hire people on to do most of the work. From what I remember he's only recently allowed juniors to be on his staff, though I might be wrong about that. I do know however that he's tasked his wife with finishing it if he can't do it. She did Sailor Moon.Might be a pride thing. That he still wants to be the one to finish it. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DodogamaRayBrst 05/23/24 5:36:25 PM #93: |
The quote TC provided seems to me that he's saying he's hoping Winds of Winter will come out by the time the sequel to the sequel of his new show is out. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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