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Ohio lawmakers urged to add Biden to November ballot

Ohio's governor is pushing state lawmakers to avoid a partisan clash threatening to bar US President Joe Biden from the key swing state's presidential ballot in November.

The state's top election official said earlier this week that Democrats are nominating their candidate too late to comply with Ohio's ballot access laws.

Such conflicts have been quietly resolved in the past - but the Biden campaign may be forced to sue to get on the ballot.

On Thursday, the governor said he was calling the Legislature to convene for a rare special session to pass a law allowing Mr Biden to appear on the ballot.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1rrqj7ypzlo.amp

Thoughts on this Supreme Court?

Supreme Court: *crickets*

Is this the one where they have literally never enforced the cut-off date before, which changes year to year, anyway, but suddenly are now?

HashtagSEP posted...

Is this the one where they have literally never enforced the cut-off date before, which changes year to year, anyway, but suddenly are now?

I believe so.

IMO this kind of case should be handled by letting them on but charging a significant late fee; maybe resorting to disqualification only if the same person / party does it multiple times within a small number of elections. Also the lateness should be publicized. That way democracy isn't interfered with on technicalities but lateness is still discouraged, and people can decide for themself if (or perhaps, when, as some might not want to care this election but may care in a more normal one) it's a factor in who they'll vote for.

Oh, yep. There it is.

Ohio itself has done the same in the past, with its Legislature making exceptions for Mitt Romney, the Republican presidential nominee in 2012, and Mr Trump in 2020.
But the state's Republican House speaker said the body would not make a legislative fix to the issue.
"There's just not the will do that from the Legislature," Speaker Jason Stephens told reporters on Tuesday.

Literally admitting it out loud.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/345d42e3.jpg

"States get to choose how to run elections for federal offices" is one of those aspects of our constitution that just makes no damn sense whatsoever

Fuck Ohio

Supreme Court be like: It only counts when they want to keep Trump off. No, we're totally not fascists trying to facilitate a hostile takeover of this country for far-right interests.

HashtagSEP posted...

Is this the one where they have literally never enforced the cut-off date before, which changes year to year, anyway, but suddenly are now?

Them and Alabama.

Republicans are just going to steal the country and nobody will do shit about it. God I hate everything.

SSj4Wingzero posted...

"States get to choose how to run elections for federal offices" is one of those aspects of our constitution that just makes no damn sense whatsoever

MyMainAccount posted...

Thoughts on this Supreme Court?

Supreme Court: *crickets*

More like

Thoughts on this Supreme Court?

Supreme Court: "No but I do think Women and Minorities should lose another right today."

The President?

HashtagSEP posted...

Oh, yep. There it is.

Literally admitting it out loud.

kinda fucked up but why are the parties constantly nominating their guys too late anyway LMAO america is funny

Shit-swilling hypocrites.

Oh I'm sure the Conservative Supreme Court will surely chime in to say this is unconstitutional. /s

Seems kind of weird to not have the sitting president on the ballot.
...Is what I was thinking. But then again, I guess they don't accept the results of the 2020 election anyway, so...

Choco posted...

kinda fucked up but why are the parties constantly nominating their guys too late anyway LMAO america is funny

Because there's no set date, the state changes it every election year, whereas the conventions tend to happen roughly the same time every year.

Choco posted...

kinda fucked up but why are the parties constantly nominating their guys too late anyway LMAO america is funny

Because Ohio just randomly changes the date all the time.

Case in point. Neither party can accurately comply with them.

So who in Ohio must we strangle?

As an Ohioan for the last 28 years I can only say this.

Fuck Ohio

HashtagSEP posted...

Is this the one where they have literally never enforced the cut-off date before, which changes year to year, anyway, but suddenly are now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpEzR1XSzEQ

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Ohio went for Trump by 8 points in 2020. It is not a swing state.

They're gonna have riots on their hands if they try this shit.

When Biden gets puts back on the ballot I hope so much this backfires on the state and voters see the corruption involved and it swings blue as a result

I like how Gov DeWine, who is all over the map on shitty views is even like "Wtf, no. Put him on the ballot. I'll get voted out if hes not on it"

America fuck yeah!

*Cries*

Jiek_Fafn posted...

I like how Gov DeWine, who is all over the map on shitty views is even like "Wtf, no. Put him on the ballot. I'll get voted out if hes not on it"

Dewine sucks but he is at least a human being with some scruples and a belief in the basics of democracy.

A rarity nowadays in the GOP. Someone merely awful rather then acting like a uncensored captain planet villian 24/7

Unsuprised_Pika posted...

uncensored captain planet villian

Were Captain Planet villains usually censored?

DrizztLink posted...

Were Captain Planet villains usually censored?

Probably not. I just mean no network standards keeping the tone PG.

Jiek_Fafn posted...

I like how Gov DeWine, who is all over the map on shitty views is even like "Wtf, no. Put him on the ballot. I'll get voted out if hes not on it"

DeWine is also the one who rejected the anti-trans legislation from their legislature because he went out and talked to trans-children and was genuinely moved into not being a despicably bigoted sack of shit hatemonger on the subject. And then the legislature overrode his veto.

Seems he's still got some semblance of political intelligence unlike the vast majority of the Republican Party which is just looking for the quickest shortcut to a Christo-fascist state.

Ohio: the Florida of the midwest.

If Biden's not on the ballot in Ohio in 2024. There needs to be a hefty price to pay by those who made this happen. The Republicans in the legislature can't be allowed to get away with this. Doesn't matter how red the state is, and this goes for all these Republican states trying to remove Biden from their ballots for no legit reason. You try to subvert democracy, one way or another, you will pay for it.

This is why I didn't like the idea of not having Trump on some states ballots. I figured it would lead to something like this.

Unsuprised_Pika posted...

Dewine sucks but he is at least a human being with some scruples and a belief in the basics of democracy.

A rarity nowadays in the GOP. Someone merely awful rather then acting like a uncensored captain planet villian 24/7

Yup, and as a result, he's the most despised Republican governor by the Redcaps. They've hated him with every fiber of their being at least since COVID.

Sufferedphoenix posted...

This is why I didn't like the idea of not having Trump on some states ballots. I figured it would lead to something like this.

Let's be real, they were going to do this, regardless. This was clearly something they had in their pocket.

Sufferedphoenix posted...

This is why I didn't like the idea of not having Trump on some states ballots. I figured it would lead to something like this.

That's different. Republicans in CO (yes, it was Republicans who sued to have Trump removed from the ballot, not Dems) tried to keep Trump off the ballot for insurrection, which is specifically laid out in the Cons. Two CO courts, including their SC, concluded that based off the trial evidence that Trump did indeed constitute as an insurrectionist. When the USSC gave their asinine and overreaching ruling they themselves didn't even discuss that portion, which indicates that they don't disagree with the conclusion that Trump is an insurrectionist, they just don't care.

What Ohio and Alabama are doing is something that happens literally every election cycle to both Dems and Repubs and no state has ever given a shit about. I agree that what CO did is likely the catalyst for why they've started to "care", however it still boils down to merely revenge for someone trying to hold Trump accountable for being an insurrectionist and Republicans seeking vengeance for that.

They are not justified in this because it's all about revenge when previous years have shown no state actually gave a shit if someone officially made the deadline or not in regards to a convention.

As an Ohioan, fuck this entire state.

Kradek posted...

That's different. Republicans in CO (yes, it was Republicans who sued to have Trump removed from the ballot, not Dems) tried to keep Trump off the ballot for insurrection, which is specifically laid out in the Cons. Two CO courts, including their SC, concluded that based off the trial evidence that Trump did indeed constitute as an insurrectionist. When the USSC gave their asinine and overreaching ruling they themselves didn't even discuss that portion, which indicates that they don't disagree with the conclusion that Trump is an insurrectionist, they just don't care.

What Ohio and Alabama are doing is something that happens literally every election cycle to both Dems and Repubs and no state has ever given a shit about. I agree that what CO did is likely the catalyst for why they've started to "care", however it still boils down to merely revenge for someone trying to hold Trump accountable for being an insurrectionist and Republicans seeking vengeance for that.

They are not justified in this because it's all about revenge when previous years have shown no state actually gave a shit if someone officially made the deadline or not in regards to a convention.

Yeah I get reasons are different but it happening now of all times reeks of retalation which was my point

Sufferedphoenix posted...

Yeah I get reasons are different but it happening now of all times reeks of retalation which was my point

Which I agree with, just wanted to cement that why they feel "justified" in retaliation is not justified at all. They are merely doing it because they are reactionary fascists perturbed over their fascist cult leader being held accountable for instigating a domestic terrorist attack against our Congress in an effort to halt the transfer of power to the rightful election winner.

Sufferedphoenix posted...

Yeah I get reasons are different but it happening now of all times reeks of retalation which was my point

I don't think I've ever seen you post anything other than "The Left shouldn't do anything because the Right may retaliate."

You posted against removing Confederate statues. You voted against charging Trump with crimes. Are you in favor of any action whatsoever?

Fuck this lame ass,ass backwards state.

This state sucks so fucking much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqiMLPXTcLg&pp=ygUJc21nNCBvaGlv

Kradek posted...

Seems he's still got some semblance of political intelligence unlike the vast majority of the Republican Party which is just looking for the quickest shortcut to a Christo-fascist state.

Not actual empathy or humanity. He's still a republican. But I guess we're seeing the bar at "politically expedient" and "intelligent" which just the lowest possible threshold for an elected representative you could set: don't piss off the constituency.

I swear to God, I'm going to take up smoking and light my first one off the ashes of democracy.

Unsuprised_Pika posted...

Dewine sucks but he is at least a human being with some scruples and a belief in the basics of democracy.

A rarity nowadays in the GOP. Someone merely awful rather then acting like a uncensored captain planet villian 24/7

As I recall, he was one of few Republican governors that went along with COVID restrictions like social distancing and masks, despite the pushback from Republicans.

Dudebusters posted...

I don't think I've ever seen you post anything other than "The Left shouldn't do anything because the Right may retaliate."

You posted against removing Confederate statues. You voted against charging Trump with crimes. Are you in favor of any action whatsoever?

Do you have quotes where I said Trump shouldn't be charged cause I don't feel that way and don't recall saying it.

Also never said republican would retaliate over statues though there probably would be some backlash but mostly just angry screeching or attempts at intimidation before hand. Also I can't remember if I admitted to losing that debate but I did and I'm admitting it now in case I didn't.

Kradek posted...

Which I agree with, just wanted to cement that why they feel "justified" in retaliation is not justified at all. They are merely doing it because they are reactionary fascists perturbed over their fascist cult leader being held accountable for instigating a domestic terrorist attack against our Congress in an effort to halt the transfer of power to the rightful election winner.

Yes I agree with all that.