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ctesjbuvf 06/24/24 5:34:31 PM #1: |
Chandler is really bad at rejecting people or well, stop seeing them. This is a pretty realistic depiction of someone who has faced a lot of rejection himself and has low self esteem in this regard. Even when he somehow manages to not immediately see it, he will say it as soon as he realizes someone is about to possibly be hurt if he doesnt. Not that this situation happens to him often, mind you.
Lived longer than most this game despite not even managing to live through the series! Sophie can finally celebrate now. Also fun fact, I wrote this flavor text twice before before realizing Joanna was not the character dead. Saved it neither time. How good I am! Well this was great. I'll give you a call. We should do it again sometime! Death has been killed. He was... Congratulations! You now just crossed the line into completely useless. Get out. The following journal was found with Death: Well bugger Players still hanging out (3): 1. Ben 2. Dumey 3. IGCD Players no longer around: LD1 - Sultan - Phoebe & Mike - MAFIA Doppelganger and Conditional Godfather KN1 - Blade - Paul Stevens - TOWN Lawyer LD2 - Corrik - Gary - TOWN Cop KD3 - SBell - Pete Becker - TOWN Taunter KD3 - Peaf - David - TOWN Spirit LD3 - MZero - Janice Litman Goralnik - TOWN Secret Double Voter LD4 - Chang - Ross & Rachel - MAFIA Roleblocker and Conditional Gun Dealer KN4 - Foolmo - Richard Burke - TOWN Doctor LD5 - Wallz - Kathy - TOWN Singer KN5 - Death - Joanna - TOWN Journal Dealer It is now Day 6. With 3 players remaining it takes 2 to lynch. Day ends at 6PM ET Wednesday, a bit more than 48 hours from now. You may begin posting. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 06/24/24 5:38:41 PM #2: |
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PunishedBen 06/24/24 6:00:01 PM #3: |
Oh lord I didn't know this was up early
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PunishedBen 06/24/24 6:02:18 PM #4: |
I wasn't sure if they were gonna kill Death or leave this in a final 4, but Death dying changes nothing for me. If Dumey is scum he deserves the win. Can't say the same for IGCD
I don't need to spend any time debating this or re-reading. Dumey is town. I'm town. I know its IGCD. I actually almost just voted for IGCD. But I dont want to be the guy who throws the game and gives scum the chance to hammer before giving everyone a chance. --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 06/24/24 6:07:07 PM #5: |
If theres anything that gives me any hesitation at all about Dumey, and maybe he can answer this - its that I re-read my PM and the flavor is about how Barry Farber is the first ex-lover who is left at the altar in episode 1. The original scorned lover. So it makes sense to me why that would be vanilla, and could maybe even be the only vanilla in the game because it has such importance in a kind of weird way. But then does Dumeys claimed flavor fit with that? I say this though not remembering what his flavor is, and being not familiar at all with the show. But I do question if my character is the only vanilla in the game.
It would mean Dumey's role can get around being taunted and still throw out an ability on Foolmo on day 1 though. And i cant think of any role except "Untauntable" that would fit that and that's such a stretch lol. So yeah my vote is on IGCD --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 06/24/24 6:07:47 PM #6: |
Death reassures me that Dumey is town
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IfGodCouldDie 06/24/24 6:12:25 PM #7: |
Ok so that didn't post.
Whichever one of you is scum can have the win, I have 0 interest in playing a final 3. ##Vote: IGCD --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 06/24/24 6:15:34 PM #8: |
From the rules:
- You are not allowed to vote for yourself. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/24/24 6:16:17 PM #9: |
@PunishedBen you might as well just actually vote me. I'm not doing this. I have 0 interest in playing a final 3 for a game I barely read.
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PunishedBen 06/24/24 6:16:19 PM #10: |
Lol I'm not letting the game end like that. If you are scum please just say so and I will gladly end you
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IfGodCouldDie 06/24/24 6:16:50 PM #11: |
PunishedBen posted...
Lol I'm not letting the game end like that. If you are scum please just say so and I will gladly end youOk I am scum, have at'er --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/24/24 6:17:57 PM #12: |
I mean either way I should be mod killed for clearly not playing to win but the game can't end like that so just vote me.
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IfGodCouldDie 06/24/24 6:20:51 PM #13: |
And I am going to apologize in advance to ctes and the rest of the players. I was in the worst depressive state I have ever had for the vast majority of the game which is why I didn't really play and I should have replaced out but I didn't because it was that bad. I don't deserve to win so scum can have it.
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EDumey 06/24/24 6:22:23 PM #14: |
Man I was pretty confident in coming in and voting Ben, but now I almost want to make IGCD lose no matter what his alignment is, lmao.
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EDumey 06/24/24 6:22:53 PM #15: |
Sorry, that sounds super harsh after your post about depression, but I didn't refresh. >_>
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PunishedBen 06/24/24 6:23:58 PM #16: |
Firstly,
ctesjbuvf posted... From the rules: Secondly, IfGodCouldDie posted... And I am going to apologize in advance to ctes and the rest of the players. I was in the worst depressive state I have ever had for the vast majority of the game which is why I didn't really play and I should have replaced out but I didn't because it was that bad. I don't deserve to win so scum can have it. F that I want town to win lol. I'm trying to figure out if you're being legit or not. But if you are town then I need your help or we do lose. I want Dumey to answer my question --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/24/24 6:24:33 PM #17: |
EDumey posted...
Man I was pretty confident in coming in and voting Ben, but now I almost want to make IGCD lose no matter what his alignment is, lmao.Wait, what? If you're town you'd be causing yourself to lose to. --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/24/24 6:27:12 PM #18: |
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PunishedBen 06/24/24 6:27:17 PM #19: |
##Unvote:
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EDumey 06/24/24 6:27:23 PM #20: |
##Vote: Ben
I'm just gonna do this based off the logic I had before lynching Wallz, and not let this influence me. IGCD if you're scum and pulled this card at the very end, that would be pretty gross. Sorry Ben that you don't get a chance to play the final day out. PunishedBen posted... I want Dumey to answer my question I'm not really sure why you're trying to pin this on flavor meta at the very end. I think you're questioning my Vanilla claim because you're scum and question whether there are any real vanillas in the game, and you still have unanswered questions about Chang's role and the special text at the end of it. --- my links broke. :( ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EDumey 06/24/24 6:27:38 PM #21: |
igcd... what a loser man
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PunishedBen 06/24/24 6:27:44 PM #22: |
Sorry scum buddy
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IfGodCouldDie 06/24/24 6:28:08 PM #23: |
Who won?
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wallmasterz 06/24/24 6:28:15 PM #24: |
Stop
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ctesjbuvf 06/24/24 6:28:29 PM #25: |
STOP POSTING please
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ctesjbuvf 06/24/24 7:00:01 PM #26: |
Joey, Chandler and Monica sat in the the latter twos apartment, who were about to move away.
Please let me come with you! Joey said. Im sorry, but it will not happen. Monica said. But we sure had some great memories here! Chandler added. Remember that time I dated Phoebes sister? Joey remembered. She sure screwed me over. And if it was a bad movie or simply something Ctes wrote just now because day ended a little bit sooner than Ctes expected, Ursula came through the door. Hey Phoebe, thought you were gone for a while. Monica said. Whats this? Ursula said and picked up a signed contract of a house purchase. Thats not Phoebe, thats Ursula! Joey said. Ursula, lets swoop in and live together in that house Chandler and Monica bought. Well figure out something to make it work. They had their chance with me, but I am absolutely sure we can do this, me and you. Tear the contract apart As he finished the sentence walking to the door, Ursula was already handing the contract to Chandler and Monica. Here, this belongs to you. She said. Then she left again. So did Joey out of embarrassment (and character but bear with me). Screwed over again by her, so many years later. Chandler and Monicas love really is impossible to break ever, as always. While Joey even in this game did not find his love, we will probably make the sitcom about him. His role definitely had the most unused potential imo. Despite a rather anticlimactic ending, I do appreciate Chandler winning this game. This flavor came to mind after I most recently watched the series after Perrys death. Chandler will live forever in my heart, could a sitcom character BE anymore perfect? I doubt it, hes the best. Dumey has been lynched. He was... "Its all a moo point. Its like a cows opinion it doesnt matter." IGCD has been endgamed. He was... It Could Be True. Ben has won. He was... "I'm not great at the advice. Can I interest you in a sarcastic comment?" Chang has also won. Sultan has also won. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 06/24/24 7:00:14 PM #27: |
Dead Town Chat: https://discord.gg/6TRh6yUP
Scum Chat: https://discord.gg/sVpbhDWb All night actions: Day 1: Peaf summons Kirby to the game -> Successful Death hands a journal to Peaf -> You successfully handed Peaf a journal. Night 1: Chang Roleblocks Corrik -> You successfully roleblocked Corrik SBell taunts Dumey -> Any action Dumey might have had was successfully taunted to you. Ben ninja steals from Foolmo -> You successfully stole the result "You successfully protected Peaf." Corrik scans Foolmo -> You have been roleblcoked. Foolmo protects Peaf -> The result of your action has been stolen. Ben kills Blade -> You successfully killed Blade. Day 2: Peaf summons Lopen to the game -> Successful Death hands a journal to Foolmo -> You successfully handed Foolmo a journal. Night 2: Ben ninja steals from Chang -> You successfully stole the result "You successfully roleblocked Foolmo" Chang roleblocks Foolmo -> The result of your action has been stolen. SBell taunts Foolmo -> Any action Foolmo might have had was successfully taunted to you. Foolmo protects Peaf -> You were roleblocked. Mafia kills no one. Chang gives a Peaf a gun -> You successfully handed Peaf a gun. Day 3: Peaf summons Kirby to the game -> Successful Peaf gambler shots SBell -> SBell was town and Peaf dies too. Death hands a journal to Chang -> You successfully handed Chang a journal. Night 3: Chang roleblocks no one. Ben ninja steals from Dumey -> Dumey had no result to steal. Foolmo protects Death Ben kills Death -> Ben successfully targets Death but Death does not die. Day 4: Death hands a journal to Death -> You successfully handed Death a journal. Night 4: Ben ninja steals from no one. Ben kills Foolmo -> You successfully killed Foolmo Day 5: Death hands a journal to Death -> You successfully handed Death a journal. Night 5: Ben ninja steals from no one. Ben kills Death -> You successfully killed Death Thank you all for playing my game! It was fun for me to make. Spirit Summoner and Cursed were the roles I was mostly curious about. Balance was tricky. It was crucial that gun dealer could not be received with a successful kill or town loses too fast. Gave scum a role safelist to balance lots of confirmable roles. Purposely put vanilla on anticipating cursed probably claims that. Generally happy. Its swingy, day 1 could decide a lot, but scum had the perfect night 1 to rebound and of course the incorrect shot was crucial. I made two mistakes, one was forgetting to remove Ursula from the safelists after expanding from 12 to 13 players and include the cursed role, though this did not matter. Neither cursed or miller was in with 12, I was too happy with including Joey to go back to 12. I compensated the miller addition by making godfather conditional. The other mistake was missing Reds sign-up post, I felt terrible, shout out to red for being really nice about it. Happy about setup though! Gun dealing would have failed if given to Cursed while town and shooting Dumey is obviously the no kill that would have resulted in no gun dealing ability. Shout out to my spectators chat. I had a lot of fun with that while Peaf lived. I had no idea how active it would be, but Kirby and Lopen in particular were super active. Thank you to the people who joined that. I had fun, hopefully you had too! --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 06/24/24 7:01:29 PM #28: |
WE KNEW IT. JOEY!
we knew ittttttttttttt --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 06/24/24 7:03:52 PM #29: |
Oh yeah, low key top tier moment for me was my slow reveal to DTC after Peaf died, highlighted by how, after days of Lopen talking about a possible traitor that could be recruited with a shot and no one listening to him ever, everyone's jaws dropped when they learned Lopen was right all along.
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IfGodCouldDie 06/24/24 7:04:43 PM #30: |
Sorry guys.
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Lopen 06/24/24 7:05:23 PM #31: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
Lopen talking about a possible traitor that could be recruited with a shot and no one listening to him ever, everyone's jaws dropped when they learned Lopen was right all along. If only scum believed me Joey could have won and we wouldn't have had this sad ending --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 06/24/24 7:05:42 PM #32: |
Lopen and SBell both arrived at that idea like, 12 hours after I did in the scum chat I think lol
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Isquen 06/24/24 7:06:04 PM #33: |
I was about as active as I typically am - which is, to say, not much. Still!
Reiterating this here, though - motion in the future to give Ctes his own madman's diary Discord no matter what role. --- [Rock and Stone] <o/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Isquen 06/24/24 7:06:30 PM #34: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
Oh yeah, low key top tier moment for me was my slow reveal to DTC after Peaf died, highlighted by how, after days of Lopen talking about a possible traitor that could be recruited with a shot and no one listening to him ever, everyone's jaws dropped when they learned Lopen was right all along. Also I claim credit for calling chang a bastard before it dropped. --- [Rock and Stone] <o/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EDumey 06/24/24 7:07:21 PM #35: |
I wasn't gonna be playing mafia soon again anyway with the ffxiv expansion coming out. but if i do ever join up again, i will not play with igcd. last two games he's ruined the experience for me entirely by being a piece of shit not reading the game and just tilting at me out of nowhere. fuck him for joining these games if he's just gonna do shit like this.
i had fun with this game mostly, though i didn't like having a modkill stipulation on claiming my role. there were times i thought about hinting more up front about being survivor/traitor, but seeing as how i literally could not tell the truth to town, i felt forced as a town aligned role to stick with a fake claim. peace. --- my links broke. :( ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 06/24/24 7:07:37 PM #36: |
Oh gosh. I'm sorry dumey. I was hoping you were just scum aligned. Chang did think shooting you would convert you but Ive never see that role and thought it was too risky
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ctesjbuvf 06/24/24 7:09:14 PM #37: |
So yeah, DTC is uninformed for the majority of it in there. It was insanely active those 24 hours when Peaf had a gun, it was hard to follow lol! But also active before that. So it's quite a read.
Spoiler channel in DTC is really just me talking to myself, with setup posted in there when Peaf died. Scum did notice they didn't have Joey dates on their safelist as I had removed them and given them to the Joey role when I made that lol. Chang was onto the idea basically the whole time. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 06/24/24 7:11:13 PM #38: |
Hello I let Ben and Chang Lynch me to set them up to look good. Kinda worked but I'm no chris
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changmas 06/24/24 7:11:24 PM #39: |
FWIW we shot death on my suggestion, because I thought it was the only possible way I could avoid getting lynched that day. I thought foolmo was going to doctor me because the scenario where he heals death and I get killed and flip town jailkeeper would immediately result in his lynch and probably straight up game losing for town.
then i fumbled the poison claim by not thinking about the math long enough to realize I needed to claim it killed me at the end of the night. Ben actually suggested I claim that, and I changed it in my original claim, then corrected myself in the next post. Oops. --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/24/24 7:11:39 PM #40: |
EDumey posted...
i will not play with igcd. last two games he's ruined the experience for me entirely by being a piece of shit not reading the game and just tilting at me out of nowhere. fuck him for joining these games if he's just gonna do shit like this.What did I do last game that was so terrible? --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Meow1000 06/24/24 7:13:38 PM #41: |
Yeah that whimper of an ending makes me glad I completely stopped following after dying tbqh.
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ctesjbuvf 06/24/24 7:14:23 PM #42: |
EDumey posted...
I wasn't gonna be playing mafia soon again anyway with the ffxiv expansion coming out. but if i do ever join up again, i will not play with igcd. last two games he's ruined the experience for me entirely by being a piece of shit not reading the game and just tilting at me out of nowhere. fuck him for joining these games if he's just gonna do shit like this. I considered for a brief moment to modkill instead for playing to win, but result is the same. I thought you played well. I don't want to go personal too much but it is a shame IGCD didn't inform me last night and I could have asked red, FD or maybe Cody if they had followed enough to join in. The modkill stipulation I was on the fence about, but made it because of the "play to win with your faction" thing as I did not want to encourage trying to switch team if scum was ahead. The role was experimental to me and could certainly have worked differently too. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/24/24 7:14:58 PM #43: |
changmas posted...
FWIW we shot death on my suggestion, because I thought it was the only possible way I could avoid getting lynched that day. I thought foolmo was going to doctor me because the scenario where he heals death and I get killed and flip town jailkeeper would immediately result in his lynch and probably straight up game losing for town.I was pretty convinced Ben was scum because of your claim to Jk him and his opening post this day, but dumey coming at me the way he did made me say fuck it. --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PeaceFrog 06/24/24 7:15:33 PM #44: |
Damn, Dumey almost clutched it out.
Well played, Ben and chang. Really nice recovery and great manipulation. Hope you feel better soon, igcd. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 06/24/24 7:17:40 PM #45: |
Hope all is well IGCD
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PeaceFrog 06/24/24 7:18:17 PM #46: |
Meow1000 posted...
Yeah that whimper of an ending makes me glad I completely stopped following after dying tbqh.Believe it or not, i was disappointed that you didn't join dtc with us. Even when Lopen and corrik got a bit feisty it was all good discussion because we were 100% host confirmed to be all town by that point. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/24/24 7:19:29 PM #47: |
PeaceFrog posted...
Damn, Dumey almost clutched it out.I feel fine. My post about depression was in regards to every day prior to the day we lynched wallz. I just didn't have any information to battle out a final 3 on the outskirts of such massive depressive episode. --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 06/24/24 7:19:29 PM #48: |
Feeling forced to lie as town is an perspective that I will keep in mind.
Also ironically Ben wanted to die first and use the ninja part of his role to make Sultan look great. Sultan didn't even use the Emily Tracker fakeclaim I made for him lol, he just rolled over. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 06/24/24 7:20:46 PM #49: |
IfGodCouldDie posted...
I just didn't have any information to battle out a final 3 Dumey was kinda confirmed by foolmo and SBell's flips after claiming to taunt him and having their result stolen on the same night. Though chang and ben aimed at themselves a lot to confuse, the aforementioned was stronger. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/24/24 7:22:25 PM #50: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
Dumey was kinda confirmed by foolmo and SBell's flips after claiming to taunt him and having their result stolen on the same night. Though chang and ben aimed at themselves a lot to confuse, the aforementioned was stronger. IfGodCouldDie posted... I was pretty convinced Ben was scum because of your claim to Jk him and his opening post this day, but dumey coming at me the way he did made me say fuck it. --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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