Board 8 > Friends Mafia Topic 7 - The Final One

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ctesjbuvf
06/24/24 5:34:31 PM
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Chandler is really bad at rejecting people or well, stop seeing them. This is a pretty realistic depiction of someone who has faced a lot of rejection himself and has low self esteem in this regard. Even when he somehow manages to not immediately see it, he will say it as soon as he realizes someone is about to possibly be hurt if he doesnt. Not that this situation happens to him often, mind you.

Lived longer than most this game despite not even managing to live through the series! Sophie can finally celebrate now. Also fun fact, I wrote this flavor text twice before before realizing Joanna was not the character dead. Saved it neither time. How good I am!

Well this was great. I'll give you a call. We should do it again sometime!

Death has been killed. He was...

Congratulations! You now just crossed the line into completely useless. Get out.

You are a previous boss of Rachels from when she was working at Bloomingdales. Perhaps most memorable is your relationship with Chandler however, where he was unable to not promise to call you again, and when he was left tied to your office chair, a scene that also includes one of the best bloopers that stayed in the final episode of the series. You are later suddenly killed off, which does not happen often in a sitcom but nonetheless you die suddenly.

You are Joanna - TOWN Journal Dealer

During each day you may choose one player. This player will be informed at the beginning of the night that they may submit a death journal. If they are to die on that night, this journal will be posted by me along with their flip. If they survive, their journal is lost. You can submit and change this action at any point until day ends but if someone is hammered early, it is locked in, or it is lost if you did not use it in time. You may choose yourself if you should like.
Whoever you chose will receive the following PM:
Someone has given you a journal. You may choose to write a message in it that is up to 200 words long. You do this by PMing it to me. If you should die on this night, whatever you write will be posted along with your flip. If you do not die on this night, the journal vanishes for all eternity.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

The following journal was found with Death:

Well bugger

We should not feel too bad since Wallz was going to get lynched no matter what, it was a necessary event.
But now... final scum is IGCD? Somehow?
It actually could still be Ben since Changmas never really pushed him early on. But thats about as much as I could get out of ISOing Changmas.
Ben and IGCD both voted Changmas day4 so clearly scum was prepared to bus Chang
And the thing where Ben voted Mzero at the end of day3 was just Ben expecting Dumey's townflip to happen first and him looking good for it?
I should have questioned it more.
Changmas voting Ben day4 says nothing at all regardless, he knew was dead at that point.
IGCd still has the thing going for him where Sultan raged about IGCD pretending to be a doublevoter. Also an early miller claim.
But even that feels dangerous as evidence since Changmas was already voting Sultan so perhaps scum was just in theater mode at that stage. And its role madness.

Part of me hopes I die, sinceI dont look forward to solving this.
Just remember that Dumey is town

Players still hanging out (3):
1. Ben
2. Dumey
3. IGCD

Players no longer around:
LD1 - Sultan - Phoebe & Mike - MAFIA Doppelganger and Conditional Godfather
KN1 - Blade - Paul Stevens - TOWN Lawyer
LD2 - Corrik - Gary - TOWN Cop
KD3 - SBell - Pete Becker - TOWN Taunter
KD3 - Peaf - David - TOWN Spirit
LD3 - MZero - Janice Litman Goralnik - TOWN Secret Double Voter
LD4 - Chang - Ross & Rachel - MAFIA Roleblocker and Conditional Gun Dealer
KN4 - Foolmo - Richard Burke - TOWN Doctor
LD5 - Wallz - Kathy - TOWN Singer
KN5 - Death - Joanna - TOWN Journal Dealer

It is now Day 6. With 3 players remaining it takes 2 to lynch. Day ends at 6PM ET Wednesday, a bit more than 48 hours from now. You may begin posting.

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ctesjbuvf
06/24/24 5:38:41 PM
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PunishedBen
06/24/24 6:00:01 PM
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Oh lord I didn't know this was up early

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PunishedBen
06/24/24 6:02:18 PM
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I wasn't sure if they were gonna kill Death or leave this in a final 4, but Death dying changes nothing for me. If Dumey is scum he deserves the win. Can't say the same for IGCD

I don't need to spend any time debating this or re-reading. Dumey is town. I'm town. I know its IGCD.

I actually almost just voted for IGCD. But I dont want to be the guy who throws the game and gives scum the chance to hammer before giving everyone a chance.


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PunishedBen
06/24/24 6:07:07 PM
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If theres anything that gives me any hesitation at all about Dumey, and maybe he can answer this - its that I re-read my PM and the flavor is about how Barry Farber is the first ex-lover who is left at the altar in episode 1. The original scorned lover. So it makes sense to me why that would be vanilla, and could maybe even be the only vanilla in the game because it has such importance in a kind of weird way. But then does Dumeys claimed flavor fit with that? I say this though not remembering what his flavor is, and being not familiar at all with the show. But I do question if my character is the only vanilla in the game.

It would mean Dumey's role can get around being taunted and still throw out an ability on Foolmo on day 1 though. And i cant think of any role except "Untauntable" that would fit that and that's such a stretch lol. So yeah my vote is on IGCD


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PunishedBen
06/24/24 6:07:47 PM
#6:


Death reassures me that Dumey is town

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IfGodCouldDie
06/24/24 6:12:25 PM
#7:


Ok so that didn't post.

Whichever one of you is scum can have the win, I have 0 interest in playing a final 3.

##Vote: IGCD

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ctesjbuvf
06/24/24 6:15:34 PM
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From the rules:
- You are not allowed to vote for yourself.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/24/24 6:16:17 PM
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@PunishedBen you might as well just actually vote me. I'm not doing this. I have 0 interest in playing a final 3 for a game I barely read.

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PunishedBen
06/24/24 6:16:19 PM
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Lol I'm not letting the game end like that. If you are scum please just say so and I will gladly end you

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IfGodCouldDie
06/24/24 6:16:50 PM
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PunishedBen posted...
Lol I'm not letting the game end like that. If you are scum please just say so and I will gladly end you
Ok I am scum, have at'er

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IfGodCouldDie
06/24/24 6:17:57 PM
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I mean either way I should be mod killed for clearly not playing to win but the game can't end like that so just vote me.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/24/24 6:20:51 PM
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And I am going to apologize in advance to ctes and the rest of the players. I was in the worst depressive state I have ever had for the vast majority of the game which is why I didn't really play and I should have replaced out but I didn't because it was that bad. I don't deserve to win so scum can have it.

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EDumey
06/24/24 6:22:23 PM
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Man I was pretty confident in coming in and voting Ben, but now I almost want to make IGCD lose no matter what his alignment is, lmao.

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EDumey
06/24/24 6:22:53 PM
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Sorry, that sounds super harsh after your post about depression, but I didn't refresh. >_>

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PunishedBen
06/24/24 6:23:58 PM
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Firstly,
ctesjbuvf posted...
From the rules:
- You are not allowed to vote for yourself.

Secondly,

IfGodCouldDie posted...
And I am going to apologize in advance to ctes and the rest of the players. I was in the worst depressive state I have ever had for the vast majority of the game which is why I didn't really play and I should have replaced out but I didn't because it was that bad. I don't deserve to win so scum can have it.

F that I want town to win lol. I'm trying to figure out if you're being legit or not. But if you are town then I need your help or we do lose. I want Dumey to answer my question


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IfGodCouldDie
06/24/24 6:24:33 PM
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EDumey posted...
Man I was pretty confident in coming in and voting Ben, but now I almost want to make IGCD lose no matter what his alignment is, lmao.
Wait, what? If you're town you'd be causing yourself to lose to.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/24/24 6:27:12 PM
#18:


Fuck it.

##Vote: Dumey

@PunishedBen if you're scum have the win.

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PunishedBen
06/24/24 6:27:17 PM
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##Unvote:
##Vote: Dumey


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EDumey
06/24/24 6:27:23 PM
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##Vote: Ben

I'm just gonna do this based off the logic I had before lynching Wallz, and not let this influence me. IGCD if you're scum and pulled this card at the very end, that would be pretty gross. Sorry Ben that you don't get a chance to play the final day out.

PunishedBen posted...
I want Dumey to answer my question

I'm not really sure why you're trying to pin this on flavor meta at the very end. I think you're questioning my Vanilla claim because you're scum and question whether there are any real vanillas in the game, and you still have unanswered questions about Chang's role and the special text at the end of it.

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EDumey
06/24/24 6:27:38 PM
#21:


igcd... what a loser man

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PunishedBen
06/24/24 6:27:44 PM
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Sorry scum buddy

Wallz you were right

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IfGodCouldDie
06/24/24 6:28:08 PM
#23:


Who won?

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wallmasterz
06/24/24 6:28:15 PM
#24:


Stop

Please do not post any more until the host posts.

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ctesjbuvf
06/24/24 6:28:29 PM
#25:


STOP POSTING please

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ctesjbuvf
06/24/24 7:00:01 PM
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Joey, Chandler and Monica sat in the the latter twos apartment, who were about to move away.

Please let me come with you! Joey said.

Im sorry, but it will not happen. Monica said.

But we sure had some great memories here! Chandler added.

Remember that time I dated Phoebes sister? Joey remembered. She sure screwed me over.

And if it was a bad movie or simply something Ctes wrote just now because day ended a little bit sooner than Ctes expected, Ursula came through the door.

Hey Phoebe, thought you were gone for a while. Monica said.

Whats this? Ursula said and picked up a signed contract of a house purchase.

Thats not Phoebe, thats Ursula! Joey said. Ursula, lets swoop in and live together in that house Chandler and Monica bought. Well figure out something to make it work. They had their chance with me, but I am absolutely sure we can do this, me and you. Tear the contract apart

As he finished the sentence walking to the door, Ursula was already handing the contract to Chandler and Monica.

Here, this belongs to you. She said. Then she left again. So did Joey out of embarrassment (and character but bear with me).

Screwed over again by her, so many years later. Chandler and Monicas love really is impossible to break ever, as always.

While Joey even in this game did not find his love, we will probably make the sitcom about him. His role definitely had the most unused potential imo.

Despite a rather anticlimactic ending, I do appreciate Chandler winning this game. This flavor came to mind after I most recently watched the series after Perrys death. Chandler will live forever in my heart, could a sitcom character BE anymore perfect? I doubt it, hes the best.

Dumey has been lynched. He was...

"Its all a moo point. Its like a cows opinion it doesnt matter."

Part of what is probably one of the best sitcom duos ever, your scenes with Chandler include a lot of the best moments in the series. I personally think Joey is the second-best character, but he is also among the ones that drop the most in quality later on. He becomes stupid to a point where its unbelievable, while Joey was slow but not completely dumb originally. Although quite the womanizer, you are also depicted as the most loyal and trustful person. To think Joey kept Monica and Chandlers secret despite it ruining his reputation when Monica multiple times in the series tells other peoples secrets seconds after swearing not to. What a guy. The worst part about the ending is because they wanted to do to spin-off with Joey that ultimately was unsuccessful, his story isnt really concluded and he never finds love, a huge shame in my opinion.

You are Joey Tribbiani TOWN Cursed

If you would have been killed by the factorial night kill, you will not die. Instead, you will join the Mafia team while still being Joey Tribbiani. You are forbidden from claiming that you are cursed, doing so will result in you getting modkilled. The Mafia team is not aware that they have any means to get an additional member. If you are killed through any means that is not the factorial night kill, you will die as town and also win or lose with town. You scan as innocent for as long as you are town. You scan as guilty on the night where you are hit by the factorial night kill and onwards. You will not gain any additional powers by joining the mafia but will simply turn into a standard Mafia Goon.

You may worry that claiming your flavor would get you killed. For this purpose, you are provided with a short safelist of two of your previous love interests that you can claim instead of you wish:

Janine Lecroix
Kate Miller

I can provide some flavor text for either of them if you want.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

IGCD has been endgamed. He was...

It Could Be True.

Phoebes twin sister who is actually originally a side character from Mad About You. You briefly dated Joey until he stopped being interesting to you. You start out being arrogant and rude, ends up being totally insane on top of it. You lie to no end and with no consideration of how it might ruin peoples lives. I chose the above quote because it describes her pretty well. This includes lying about your whole identity to marry someone and use your sisters name in porn. In all those situations, its clear you are easily mistaken with your sister despite having quite different personalities.

You are Ursula Buffay - TOWN Miller

If a Cop targets you, you will scan guilty.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

Ben has won. He was...

"I'm not great at the advice. Can I interest you in a sarcastic comment?"
Honey, I love you. But if you call our wedding a party one more time, you may not get invited."

Its amazing how well this couple works. Its apparently some of their early episodes that sparked the idea, like the one where Monica helps Chandler get into shape. Its revealed late that Monica was actually looking for Joey in London, which references how Joey and Monica were originally the pairing they wanted to go with. Ive considered before if the decline of quality in the late seasons is because the best character, Chandler, is moved away from the person he works best with, Joey. But I dont think its the case. The problem is rather that they take their typical character traits way too far which gives Joey and Monica the biggest decline probably, as they become too stupid and too cynical to a point where its unlikable, respectively. This coupling is great though. When Chandler is hit on in Tulsa, he rejects it and leaves for home. It was originally planned he should cheat on Monica there. Matthew Perry vetoed that, and instead we were given one of their strongest moments.

You are Chandler & Monica - MAFIA Thief and Ninja

At night you may choose one person whose action you steal. You will not be told their role, but you will be told whatever result they were going to be told. They will then be told their result was stolen. If they have no night action to steal, you will be informed so and they will not know that they were visited. If you die, you will
As a ninja, you can not be seen moving at night. You are however aware that no power exists in the game that can detect movement, a fact that that in your flip will be replaced by the sentence this part of the flip has been redacted should you die.

You win when MAFIA controls the vote.

Chang has also won.

Sultan has also won.


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ctesjbuvf
06/24/24 7:00:14 PM
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Dead Town Chat: https://discord.gg/6TRh6yUP
Scum Chat: https://discord.gg/sVpbhDWb

All night actions:
Day 1:
Peaf summons Kirby to the game -> Successful
Death hands a journal to Peaf -> You successfully handed Peaf a journal.

Night 1:
Chang Roleblocks Corrik -> You successfully roleblocked Corrik
SBell taunts Dumey -> Any action Dumey might have had was successfully taunted to you.
Ben ninja steals from Foolmo -> You successfully stole the result "You successfully protected Peaf."
Corrik scans Foolmo -> You have been roleblcoked.
Foolmo protects Peaf -> The result of your action has been stolen.
Ben kills Blade -> You successfully killed Blade.

Day 2:
Peaf summons Lopen to the game -> Successful
Death hands a journal to Foolmo -> You successfully handed Foolmo a journal.

Night 2:
Ben ninja steals from Chang -> You successfully stole the result "You successfully roleblocked Foolmo"
Chang roleblocks Foolmo -> The result of your action has been stolen.
SBell taunts Foolmo -> Any action Foolmo might have had was successfully taunted to you.
Foolmo protects Peaf -> You were roleblocked.
Mafia kills no one.
Chang gives a Peaf a gun -> You successfully handed Peaf a gun.

Day 3:
Peaf summons Kirby to the game -> Successful
Peaf gambler shots SBell -> SBell was town and Peaf dies too.
Death hands a journal to Chang -> You successfully handed Chang a journal.

Night 3:
Chang roleblocks no one.
Ben ninja steals from Dumey -> Dumey had no result to steal.
Foolmo protects Death
Ben kills Death -> Ben successfully targets Death but Death does not die.

Day 4:
Death hands a journal to Death -> You successfully handed Death a journal.

Night 4:
Ben ninja steals from no one.
Ben kills Foolmo -> You successfully killed Foolmo

Day 5:
Death hands a journal to Death -> You successfully handed Death a journal.

Night 5:
Ben ninja steals from no one.
Ben kills Death -> You successfully killed Death

Thank you all for playing my game!

It was fun for me to make. Spirit Summoner and Cursed were the roles I was mostly curious about. Balance was tricky. It was crucial that gun dealer could not be received with a successful kill or town loses too fast. Gave scum a role safelist to balance lots of confirmable roles. Purposely put vanilla on anticipating cursed probably claims that. Generally happy. Its swingy, day 1 could decide a lot, but scum had the perfect night 1 to rebound and of course the incorrect shot was crucial. I made two mistakes, one was forgetting to remove Ursula from the safelists after expanding from 12 to 13 players and include the cursed role, though this did not matter. Neither cursed or miller was in with 12, I was too happy with including Joey to go back to 12. I compensated the miller addition by making godfather conditional. The other mistake was missing Reds sign-up post, I felt terrible, shout out to red for being really nice about it. Happy about setup though! Gun dealing would have failed if given to Cursed while town and shooting Dumey is obviously the no kill that would have resulted in no gun dealing ability.

Shout out to my spectators chat. I had a lot of fun with that while Peaf lived. I had no idea how active it would be, but Kirby and Lopen in particular were super active. Thank you to the people who joined that. I had fun, hopefully you had too!

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changmas
06/24/24 7:01:29 PM
#28:


WE KNEW IT. JOEY!

we knew ittttttttttttt

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ctesjbuvf
06/24/24 7:03:52 PM
#29:


Oh yeah, low key top tier moment for me was my slow reveal to DTC after Peaf died, highlighted by how, after days of Lopen talking about a possible traitor that could be recruited with a shot and no one listening to him ever, everyone's jaws dropped when they learned Lopen was right all along.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/24/24 7:04:43 PM
#30:


Sorry guys.

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Lopen
06/24/24 7:05:23 PM
#31:


ctesjbuvf posted...
Lopen talking about a possible traitor that could be recruited with a shot and no one listening to him ever, everyone's jaws dropped when they learned Lopen was right all along.

If only scum believed me Joey could have won and we wouldn't have had this sad ending

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changmas
06/24/24 7:05:42 PM
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Lopen and SBell both arrived at that idea like, 12 hours after I did in the scum chat I think lol

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Isquen
06/24/24 7:06:04 PM
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I was about as active as I typically am - which is, to say, not much. Still!

Reiterating this here, though - motion in the future to give Ctes his own madman's diary Discord no matter what role.

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Isquen
06/24/24 7:06:30 PM
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ctesjbuvf posted...
Oh yeah, low key top tier moment for me was my slow reveal to DTC after Peaf died, highlighted by how, after days of Lopen talking about a possible traitor that could be recruited with a shot and no one listening to him ever, everyone's jaws dropped when they learned Lopen was right all along.

Also I claim credit for calling chang a bastard before it dropped.

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EDumey
06/24/24 7:07:21 PM
#35:


I wasn't gonna be playing mafia soon again anyway with the ffxiv expansion coming out. but if i do ever join up again, i will not play with igcd. last two games he's ruined the experience for me entirely by being a piece of shit not reading the game and just tilting at me out of nowhere. fuck him for joining these games if he's just gonna do shit like this.

i had fun with this game mostly, though i didn't like having a modkill stipulation on claiming my role. there were times i thought about hinting more up front about being survivor/traitor, but seeing as how i literally could not tell the truth to town, i felt forced as a town aligned role to stick with a fake claim.

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PunishedBen
06/24/24 7:07:37 PM
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Oh gosh. I'm sorry dumey. I was hoping you were just scum aligned. Chang did think shooting you would convert you but Ive never see that role and thought it was too risky

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ctesjbuvf
06/24/24 7:09:14 PM
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So yeah, DTC is uninformed for the majority of it in there. It was insanely active those 24 hours when Peaf had a gun, it was hard to follow lol! But also active before that. So it's quite a read.

Spoiler channel in DTC is really just me talking to myself, with setup posted in there when Peaf died.

Scum did notice they didn't have Joey dates on their safelist as I had removed them and given them to the Joey role when I made that lol. Chang was onto the idea basically the whole time.

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TheSultanOfSlam
06/24/24 7:11:13 PM
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Hello I let Ben and Chang Lynch me to set them up to look good. Kinda worked but I'm no chris

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changmas
06/24/24 7:11:24 PM
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FWIW we shot death on my suggestion, because I thought it was the only possible way I could avoid getting lynched that day. I thought foolmo was going to doctor me because the scenario where he heals death and I get killed and flip town jailkeeper would immediately result in his lynch and probably straight up game losing for town.

then i fumbled the poison claim by not thinking about the math long enough to realize I needed to claim it killed me at the end of the night. Ben actually suggested I claim that, and I changed it in my original claim, then corrected myself in the next post. Oops.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/24/24 7:11:39 PM
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EDumey posted...
i will not play with igcd. last two games he's ruined the experience for me entirely by being a piece of shit not reading the game and just tilting at me out of nowhere. fuck him for joining these games if he's just gonna do shit like this.
What did I do last game that was so terrible?

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Meow1000
06/24/24 7:13:38 PM
#41:


Yeah that whimper of an ending makes me glad I completely stopped following after dying tbqh.

I see "oh that might be the final topic" and it's already over in 20 posts trollol

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ctesjbuvf
06/24/24 7:14:23 PM
#42:


EDumey posted...
I wasn't gonna be playing mafia soon again anyway with the ffxiv expansion coming out. but if i do ever join up again, i will not play with igcd. last two games he's ruined the experience for me entirely by being a piece of shit not reading the game and just tilting at me out of nowhere. fuck him for joining these games if he's just gonna do shit like this.

i had fun with this game mostly, though i didn't like having a modkill stipulation on claiming my role. there were times i thought about hinting more up front about being survivor/traitor, but seeing as how i literally could not tell the truth to town, i felt forced as a town aligned role to stick with a fake claim.

peace.

I considered for a brief moment to modkill instead for playing to win, but result is the same. I thought you played well. I don't want to go personal too much but it is a shame IGCD didn't inform me last night and I could have asked red, FD or maybe Cody if they had followed enough to join in.

The modkill stipulation I was on the fence about, but made it because of the "play to win with your faction" thing as I did not want to encourage trying to switch team if scum was ahead. The role was experimental to me and could certainly have worked differently too.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/24/24 7:14:58 PM
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changmas posted...
FWIW we shot death on my suggestion, because I thought it was the only possible way I could avoid getting lynched that day. I thought foolmo was going to doctor me because the scenario where he heals death and I get killed and flip town jailkeeper would immediately result in his lynch and probably straight up game losing for town.

then i fumbled the poison claim by not thinking about the math long enough to realize I needed to claim it killed me at the end of the night. Ben actually suggested I claim that, and I changed it in my original claim, then corrected myself in the next post. Oops.
I was pretty convinced Ben was scum because of your claim to Jk him and his opening post this day, but dumey coming at me the way he did made me say fuck it.

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PeaceFrog
06/24/24 7:15:33 PM
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Damn, Dumey almost clutched it out.

Well played, Ben and chang. Really nice recovery and great manipulation.

Hope you feel better soon, igcd.

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TheSultanOfSlam
06/24/24 7:17:40 PM
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Hope all is well IGCD

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PeaceFrog
06/24/24 7:18:17 PM
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Meow1000 posted...
Yeah that whimper of an ending makes me glad I completely stopped following after dying tbqh.

I see "oh that might be the final topic" and it's already over in 20 posts trollol
Believe it or not, i was disappointed that you didn't join dtc with us. Even when Lopen and corrik got a bit feisty it was all good discussion because we were 100% host confirmed to be all town by that point.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/24/24 7:19:29 PM
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PeaceFrog posted...
Damn, Dumey almost clutched it out.

Well played, Ben and chang. Really nice recovery and great manipulation.

Hope you feel better soon, igcd.
I feel fine. My post about depression was in regards to every day prior to the day we lynched wallz. I just didn't have any information to battle out a final 3 on the outskirts of such massive depressive episode.

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ctesjbuvf
06/24/24 7:19:29 PM
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Feeling forced to lie as town is an perspective that I will keep in mind.

Also ironically Ben wanted to die first and use the ninja part of his role to make Sultan look great. Sultan didn't even use the Emily Tracker fakeclaim I made for him lol, he just rolled over.


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ctesjbuvf
06/24/24 7:20:46 PM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
I just didn't have any information to battle out a final 3

Dumey was kinda confirmed by foolmo and SBell's flips after claiming to taunt him and having their result stolen on the same night. Though chang and ben aimed at themselves a lot to confuse, the aforementioned was stronger.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/24/24 7:22:25 PM
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ctesjbuvf posted...
Dumey was kinda confirmed by foolmo and SBell's flips after claiming to taunt him and having their result stolen on the same night. Though chang and ben aimed at themselves a lot to confuse, the aforementioned was stronger.

IfGodCouldDie posted...
I was pretty convinced Ben was scum because of your claim to Jk him and his opening post this day, but dumey coming at me the way he did made me say fuck it.


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