Current Events > Dems can't possibly think forcing Biden out last minute is a winning strategy.

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Shut up. God I hate this narrative. He is an old man who has the demeanor of an old man. You are not senile because you move slowly or have speaking gaffs. You can want Biden to not be the nominee without saying shit like this.

Come on, you're just being willfully dishonest now.

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Fox wouldnt dream of being this fucking stupid. CNN and MSNBC should be attacking Trumps bullshit 24/7 instead of fucking handwringing.

Yeah, I do think it's still possible to win. My most cynical take is that you essentially make Biden fall on the sword and take the blame for the "vibesession". Average voter thinks we're in a recession and that it's all falling apart. Maybe we just need someone to take the [false] blame so that a new person has a clean slate. I've lost faith in the average voter at this point, and if someone new on the ticket, running the same policies is good enough to hype them up, then we do it.

All the people being polled, aren't running for president, which means the media isn't following them around everyday, analyzing thing they says, comment on every outfit they wear, judge them based on every soda they drink. These people all don't have a target on their heads, Biden does.

Once someone gets the nominee all their skeletons come out, they are attacked by press and the other side. No matter what their poll numbers are NOW, they will drop off over the next few months as more information and attacks come out.

So if no one one can secure mass support Biden stepping down means giving up a sitting president.

This is specifically what I was considering when I said or you think the polls would change

You gotta weigh the pros and cons of -new candidate skeletons +crushing Trump in next debate +being able to campaign. Against it being possible this wasnt Bidens off night performance. It was actually the best he can do after 11 days rest and prep on his terms. For all we know, in the next one he could be Mitch freezing levels of disaster or saying something a lot catchier than we beat Medicare.

Democrats are masters of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

It's too late to take Biden off the ballot in Republican controlled states.

Biden it is then. It doesn't help that our system is still rife with Trump judges.
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I don't see how they can even do that. Biden is not the official nominee until the convention. No deadlines have passed yet

Wait wouldnt Republicans welcome an alternative on the ballot since Biden is the only one that has a possibility of winning?

Not everyone agrees on that. Some Republicans really are threatening to keep Biden on the ballot, it's just questionable whether that's possible.

Biden is not on the general election ballot in those states yet, those ballots are only filled after the party nominee is chosen at the convention (as long as they do so prior to the deadlines, which have not occured yet).

Wait wouldnt Republicans welcome an alternative on the ballot since Biden is the only one that has a possibility of winning?

This isnt true. You need to get educated on replacing Biden on the ballot in some states isn't the easy thing you attempt to make it out to be given its state controlled. Especially if said state is controlled by Republicans.

This going to the courts to get hashed out, would not be in the Democrats favor. So your hard push for this only serves to help Republicans given Republicans will challenge it, it will go to the courts, and the Supreme Court has a low probability of siding with Democrats.

Then again, something tells me you are aware of this, and just seeking to spread chaos.