Current Events > JAKAS Plays: Unicorn Overlord *ongoing spoilers, tips appreciated*

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
07/21/24 4:26:36 PM
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All I know is it is tactical RPG, it's done by Atlus and Vanillaware so of course I'm gonna support those beautiful bastards.

How many large breasted beautiful women will be in the game?! Only time will tell!

Any tips before I start?

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Ivynn
07/21/24 4:27:30 PM
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Hell yeah, loved that game

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Irony
07/21/24 4:27:36 PM
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Several

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MrMolinaro
07/21/24 4:30:00 PM
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Character recruitment tip: Dont kill anyone in a cutscene if you have the option. Always show mercy.
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ellis123
07/21/24 4:33:19 PM
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
Any tips before I start?
The start is the only even vaguely hard part, but it also is when Josef utterly dominates (and you should absolutely use him). Cavaliers start as the best unit and end as close to the best unit: definitely consider making generic cavs ASAP. Muscle mommy might seem OP but she kind of sucks outside of coming absurdly overleveled (you get her at level 40 while the rest of your team is something like 17 if you go after her immediately).

Otherwise just try and learn the system more than anything else. It is an amazingly in depth and fun system that actively gets more and more complex as you dig, even if the game never actually requires that you do anything with it.

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Tyranthraxus
07/21/24 4:34:32 PM
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
How many large breasted beautiful women will be in the game?!
Yes

Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
Any tips before I start?

Always choose the carebear hippy forgive option when given a choice.

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
07/21/24 4:37:47 PM
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Hello Scarlett. Large Breasted Beautiful Woman Count +1

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
07/22/24 12:09:48 AM
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Interesting how the fights are all done automatically. Intriguing in comparison to most strategy RPG's.

I had supper over at my sister's tonight so I only just got back to it now. LOL

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Tyranthraxus
07/22/24 12:13:16 AM
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Oh one more thing: during the fight against Melisandre make sure you deploy Alain and use him in at least two fights against the generic units.

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Ivynn
07/22/24 12:15:43 AM
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
Interesting how the fights are all done automatically. Intriguing in comparison to most strategy RPG's.

Yeah, the primary draw isn't fighting, it's building squads, setting up their movelist, gearing them up and watching it all play out. It really gets going once you recruit more units.

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kelemvor
07/22/24 12:16:12 AM
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I haven't played in a week but I'm currently in Drakenhold and won the first major battle there.

Yeah, the battles play out automatically but there a million ways to tinker with the units. Both in their positions, tactics, and equipment. The equipment matters more than most RPGs, it's not D&D where you get +1 AC or something. You get stuff that grants extra action points, extra 50% to crit damage, shit like that. Also, every unit has a counter, but there are definitely some strategic unit builds that mitagate every kind of weakness. However, you can also go all-in and make a unit that's 4 or 5 archers and just do support attacks. There are so many ways to play this game, you can make up new strategies on the fly.
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Ivynn
07/22/24 12:22:59 AM
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Don't sleep on Valor skills either. Some of them can really trivialize the battlefield lol

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
07/22/24 12:24:37 AM
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I'm finishing up a women-only challenge run myself. Early game was very interesting, but by Albion it barely feels different from a normal run aside from no Alain or Great Knights.

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
07/22/24 12:31:14 AM
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Holy shit, seems there is some magic going on that had turned so many against the Queen 10 years ago. Huh.

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chris1001_the_sequel
07/22/24 12:32:44 AM
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Great game but extremely easy

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
07/22/24 12:33:38 AM
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chris1001_the_sequel posted...
Great game but extremely easy

I LOVED 13 Sentinels and it was, from a gameplay perspective, incredibly easy. *shrug*

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
07/22/24 12:46:32 AM
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So now that I'm into making my own units, it's still worth it to have Josef in one of the units and not gain EXP for one of my lower rank people? Or can I switch that out at any time if I think I need the added fire power?

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Tyranthraxus
07/22/24 12:46:47 AM
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chris1001_the_sequel posted...
Great game but extremely easy
All of their games are extremely easy.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
07/22/24 12:52:03 AM
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
it's still worth it to have Josef in one of the units and not gain EXP for one of my lower rank people?
Josef doesn't take exp away from other members in his party, so there's no reason not to deploy him this early. He's got a lot of good qualities in a unit; 2 base AP and PP, pursuit, heals, shields, cavalry movement on the field, and if he's leading a party, his party takes reduced damage from magic support attacks.

He'll fall off a while after you save Scarlett, but luckily you can pick up some really busted units right afterward.

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Tyranthraxus
07/22/24 12:56:18 AM
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Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
Josef doesn't take exp away from other members in his party, so there's no reason not to deploy him this early. He's got a lot of good qualities in a unit; 2 base AP and PP, pursuit, heals, shields, cavalry movement on the field, and if he's leading a party, his party takes reduced damage from magic support attacks.

He'll fall off a while after you save Scarlett, but luckily you can pick up some really busted units right afterward.
Josef is a late bloomer. His stats after level 35 or so are insane. So while he kinda sucks mid game if you keep using him you'll be rewarded for it.

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Cynrascal
07/22/24 1:11:20 AM
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Melisandre is best girl.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
07/22/24 2:17:56 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Josef is a late bloomer. His stats after level 35 or so are insane. So while he kinda sucks mid game if you keep using him you'll be rewarded for it.
Level 35 is mid to late Albion (for comparison, I'm just about to do the Albion finale and my teams are all average level 36~37), which is almost the end of the game. Paladin as a class is just Sainted Knight with a little more physical combat options, but not enough to make up for the loss of Row Heal and Row Barrier.

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
07/22/24 3:02:59 PM
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Got the Viperfang sword and I'm assuming Rolf is gonna join the cause? Put a nice strong defense in front of Rolf and watch him take out these little thieves.

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DodogamaRayBrst
07/22/24 3:07:50 PM
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You get so many units, I think you should decide how to treat dickshits based on how you think is right rather than how to add another unit to your army. I definitely offed some assholes.

I kind of lost interest late game and then other games came out, but I wanna get back into it at some point. I think the squad tinkering is really good, I just wish it wasn't so easy.
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
07/22/24 3:42:24 PM
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Just got Bruno. Let's fucking go big guy!

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DodogamaRayBrst
07/22/24 3:43:36 PM
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Fuck yeah, Bruno!

Berserker is one of the worst classes in the game
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
07/22/24 3:53:43 PM
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WTF random angel?!? Dominate me sexy angel!

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
07/22/24 3:55:10 PM
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Ochlys. Her name is Ochlys. ^_^

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Ivynn
07/22/24 3:56:17 PM
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
Ochlys. Her name is Ochlys. ^_^

I like her dodge animation.

That's the most I can say without breaking the hornyposting rule.

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Murphiroth
07/22/24 3:58:51 PM
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Rosalinde best girl.
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
07/22/24 4:20:39 PM
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That's now two "leaders" of the Black Talons I have let go with the sister sob story.

Hmmmmmmm

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
07/22/24 4:49:38 PM
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Oooo, Yahna looking cute too. Love the beautiful ladies of Vanillaware games!

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
07/22/24 5:30:05 PM
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I currently have 4 groups of 3 units available to me, think I'm gonna save up to add a 4th unit to each group now.

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The_Nintendo_Master
07/22/24 5:34:21 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Rosalinde best girl.

Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
That's now two "leaders" of the Black Talons I have let go with the sister sob story.

Hmmmmmmm
I left the first guy with the stereotypical psycho murderer eyes go, the rest I left in. Didn't really matter in the end.

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Bladesyphon
07/22/24 5:43:15 PM
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
I currently have 4 groups of 3 units available to me, think I'm gonna save up to add a 4th unit to each group now.

Do this. Unlock all your individual groups first, before building up each group's unit count - By the time you reach the end of the game, you'll be overflowing with Honor, so always use it as quickly as you're able, and don't worry about saving it up.

And as someone else in the topic already pointed out - never execute anyone when given the option, there's no advantage to it, and it locks you out of a potential unit joining your army. Every unit in the game is available on a single playthrough, so make use of that fact.

Unicorn Overlord is also unique in the fact that pretty much every unit you get is going to be useful in some capacity - there are no dead units or classes in the game. Even the Berserker Class, while being probably one of the weakest in the game, is still super useful, and if geared and paired right, can be an absolute monster when used properly.

That said - if you want to break the game right open and have a fallback group to use that just mows down any enemy that comes your way, set up a group with Alain, Adel, Clive, and a Healer (and whomever you want for a 5th slot down the road). Adel, Alain, and Clive syngergize together to a stupid degree, to the point in my file that I was effectively able to solo maps with them.

It's also worth mentioning as well - don't worry about the time limit. There was never a moment in any of the game's missions where I ever felt like the time limit was actually going to be a problem. It really just exists to prevent you from turtling a map or trying to brute force your way through a map when you're super under leveled. If you do everything at level or above, it'll never be an issue.

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Unsuprised_Pika
07/22/24 5:59:20 PM
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"How many large breasted beautiful women will be in the game?! Only time will tell!"

Yes.

Lots of THIGHS too and even an 8ft tall muscle mommy

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DodogamaRayBrst
07/22/24 6:02:46 PM
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Bladesyphon posted...
Unicorn Overlord is also unique in the fact that pretty much every unit you get is going to be useful in some capacity - there are no dead units or classes in the game. Even the Berserker Class, while being probably one of the weakest in the game, is still super useful, and if geared and paired right, can be an absolute monster when used properly.
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Bladesyphon
07/22/24 6:03:30 PM
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DodogamaRayBrst posted...
Archer is pretty worthless even with their weapon triangle advantage.

You don't use Archer's for their combat ability - you set them as a Group Leader and make use of their ability to dispatch groups of enemies from afar on the field. A field archer can drop multiple flying units with one Field Ability, to say nothing about their ability to rain hell on grouped up enemies that are marching towards your army, softening them up for quicker mop up with your front line units.

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ellis123
07/22/24 6:05:41 PM
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Bladesyphon posted...
You don't use Archer's for their combat ability - you set them as a Group Leader and make use of their ability to dispatch groups of enemies from afar on the field. A field archer can drop multiple flying units with one Field Ability, to say nothing about their ability to rain hell on grouped up enemies that are marching towards your army, softening them up for quicker mop up with your front line units.
Then you get to the furry lands and get one that becomes your best unit for a bit (before dropping to something like the third best).

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DodogamaRayBrst
07/22/24 6:06:05 PM
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Ah fair, been a while since I played and I don't remember the exact valor and assist skills.
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Bladesyphon
07/22/24 6:08:59 PM
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ellis123 posted...
Then you get to the furry lands and get one that becomes your best unit for a bit (before dropping to something like the third best).

Yeah, Yunifi is a beast if you build her properly. Even if you don't make use of her counter-spamming techniques, setting her up with all the initiative you can muster and just let her AoE Freeze everything in a single turn.

Archers in Unicorn Ovelord are stupidly powerful, they just have to be used in different ways then most of your offensive units are.

Point to be made here for Jeff - if a Unit feels like it's not performing properly, it probably means you're not using them properly.

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ellis123
07/22/24 6:10:58 PM
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Bladesyphon posted...
Yeah, Yunifi is a beast if you build her properly. Even if you don't make use of her counter-spamming techniques, setting her up with all the initiative you can muster and just let her AoE Freeze everything in a single turn.

Archers in Unicorn Ovelord are stupidly powerful, they just have to be used in different ways then most of your offensive units are.

Point to be made here for Jeff - if a Unit feels like it's not performing properly, it probably means you're not using them properly.
True enough.

Though I go with White/Black Cat Ear Hood nuke with her. Who needs freeze when every opponent could just be dead? :V

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Ivynn
07/22/24 6:18:53 PM
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I don't know if it's been said, but unlike Fire Emblem, don't wait to promote. Promote your units ASAP!

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DodogamaRayBrst
07/22/24 6:20:01 PM
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Ivynn posted...
I don't know if it's been said, but unlike Fire Emblem, don't wait to promote. Promote your units ASAP!
You should do that in Fire Emblem as well.
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
07/22/24 6:22:44 PM
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I just liberated a city and spared Mordon in the process. Anyone with a big hammer is alright in my books.

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Ivynn
07/22/24 6:25:39 PM
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DodogamaRayBrst posted...
You should do that in Fire Emblem as well.

True, that rule hasn't really been a thing Fire Emblem since Awakening, maybe?

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DodogamaRayBrst
07/22/24 6:28:08 PM
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No, I mean, the common consensus is that even in the old Fire Emblem games you should promote early. The big gains from a promotion mid game helps far more than a few extra stats at the late end game from going 20/20. These days the methodology of the community is much less focused on stat maxing and more so on utility.
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ellis123
07/22/24 6:35:03 PM
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Ye, Awakening is basically the stop of it really being a thing of promoting early. The GBA games made it a little bit advantageous to wait in some cases, but Awakening made it much better to go full leveled.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
07/22/24 7:22:49 PM
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
Ochlys. Her name is Ochlys. ^_^
Sadly, she's kinda eh. Feathersword is a really unfocused class.

Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
I just liberated a city and spared Mordon in the process. Anyone with a big hammer is alright in my books.
Now wait 'til you start getting the tiny girls with big hammers!

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
07/22/24 7:36:36 PM
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Berenice can dominate me with her thighs.

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