Current Events > Will Goku eventually surpass the angels and Zeno in power level?

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ViewtifulGrave
10/26/24 10:16:49 AM
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Tsukasa1891 posted...
Akira Toriyama died and he never sold ownership of dragon ball. So legally they can't keep making more. Daima was already contracted out before his death. So unless they find a legal loop hole, don't expect anymore dragon ball.
Bro why you lying?

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LonelyStoner
10/26/24 10:18:02 AM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
Bro why you lying?
Yeah idk where he got that idea, but its a dumb one.

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LordFarquad1312
10/26/24 10:22:18 AM
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Foppe posted...
And above that is the most powerful being of them all, The Father.
We all know Gohan Blanco bodies El Grande Padre.

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Gobstoppers12
10/26/24 10:22:52 AM
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Angels? Most likely. Zeno? I don't think that's possible. His 'power' is literally the ability to erase universes, including immortal beings.

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Hayame_Zero
10/26/24 10:24:22 AM
#55:


Tsukasa1891 posted...
Akira Toriyama died and he never sold ownership of dragon ball. So legally they can't keep making more. Daima was already contracted out before his death. So unless they find a legal loop hole, don't expect anymore dragon ball.
That's never stopped anyone from continuing media before. Ownership isn't buried with the deceased.

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BloodyBenten
10/26/24 10:45:18 AM
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Super is over and Toriyama is dead.
Are the angels and death gods even characters in Daima?
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Enclave
10/26/24 10:45:57 AM
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BloodyBenten posted...
Super is over and Toriyama is dead.

Super isn't over.

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TyVulpine
10/26/24 10:51:52 AM
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How many power levels are there?? It was originally as a giant ape back in the early days of DBZ, now every other episode it's like "We need to ascend to the next level! Even though we just said the previous level was the ultimate!"

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BloodyBenten
10/26/24 10:55:31 AM
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Enclave posted...
Super isn't over.
Really?
Wow
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Enclave
10/26/24 10:56:06 AM
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BloodyBenten posted...
Really?
Wow

Yup, the anime is like 2 arcs behind the manga and the manga is just on hiatus and expected to return.

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BloodyBenten
10/26/24 10:59:56 AM
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Enclave posted...
Yup, the anime is like 2 arcs behind the manga and the manga is just on hiatus and expected to return.
Isnt the Superhero movie still the most recent anime?
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Tyranthraxus
10/26/24 11:13:14 AM
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BloodyBenten posted...
Isnt the Superhero movie still the most recent anime?
No. The most recent one is Daima

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Enclave
10/26/24 11:19:49 AM
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BloodyBenten posted...
Isnt the Superhero movie still the most recent anime?

The Super manga is beyond Super Hero. Goku just sparred with Beast Gohan.

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--Zero-
10/26/24 11:23:44 AM
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Now that the creator isnt holding the series back I think when the manga starts up again itll be more action heavy. The GODs will get surpassed, but not likely the Angels or Zeno. I could see the Angels possibly being surpassed, but wouldnt see the point since their whole existence is to serve Zeno and the moment they start to fight serious they get wiped by Zeno. Then when it comes to passing Zeno, theres not any point to that happening. Zeno may not even have a big power level. Zenos abilities makes them infinite. Only way I can see a Zeno being killed is from another universes Zeno.

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Gobstoppers12
10/26/24 11:27:22 AM
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--Zero- posted...
Now that the creator isnt holding the series back
Bruh take it back

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BloodyBenten
10/26/24 11:27:36 AM
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Enclave posted...
The Super manga is beyond Super Hero. Goku just sparred with Beast Gohan.
Ok. Im asking specifically about the anime.
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Enclave
10/26/24 11:41:13 AM
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BloodyBenten posted...
Ok. Im asking specifically about the anime.

Like I said, the anime is 2 arcs behind the manga currently. It's just on a break it's not over. It is expected to return.

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Tsukasa1891
10/26/24 1:21:06 PM
#68:


BloodyBenten posted...
Super is over and Toriyama is dead.
Are the angels and death gods even characters in Daima?
After watching the first two episodes they haven't been shown or mentioned. I'm sure daima is just going to pretend super never happened.

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Foppe
10/26/24 1:25:50 PM
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Why would they appear in Daima when Goku & Co hadn't met them yet?

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Enclave
10/26/24 2:04:42 PM
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Tsukasa1891 posted...
After watching the first two episodes they haven't been shown or mentioned. I'm sure daima is just going to pretend super never happened.

Daima takes place before Battle of Gods.

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Dark_Arbron
10/26/24 2:06:10 PM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
He won't surpass Beerus, because that's the joke.

Beerus isn't a character, he's a punchline.

Why is this topic still going? I definitely closed it right here.
Mods, do your fucking jobs. We don't need idle conversation when the enlightened has already closed the conversation.

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TyVulpine
10/26/24 2:10:24 PM
#72:


Chill dude

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Biofighter55
10/26/24 2:35:38 PM
#73:


Nemu posted...
There are a few entities vying for control over it, so I believe that is incorrect.
they are wrong, shushisa or however you spell it, owns the rights to the manga or most of it iirc

and capsule corp tokyo owns the rights to the anime & video games

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jumi
10/26/24 2:39:13 PM
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I don't think Zeno's powers are a power level thing.

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GS4Life
10/26/24 2:39:28 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpaQpyU_QiM

it's fiction so whatever the writers want to happen

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EndOfDiscOne
10/26/24 2:42:06 PM
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Yeah, the internal consistency isnt strong either. If the writers want it to happen, they can figure out a way.

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SpiritSephiroth
10/26/24 10:41:47 PM
#77:


Enclave posted...
Daima takes place before Battle of Gods.

No it doesn't. It's an entirely separate storyline like Heroes is.

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Foppe
10/27/24 12:45:41 AM
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It is set directly after Buu's defeat, Toriyama worked on it, thereby it is canon until it starts contradicting Super too much.

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--Zero-
10/27/24 1:08:08 AM
#79:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
No it doesn't. It's an entirely separate storyline like Heroes is.

Dont talk about DB if you dont know DB lol.

First episode establishes its before Super and after Z. It was confirmed after DBD was announced.

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SpiritSephiroth
10/27/24 1:21:19 AM
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--Zero- posted...
Dont talk about DB if you dont know DB lol.

First episode establishes its before Super and after Z. It was confirmed after DBD was announced.

My guy, I live and breathe Dragon ball. I literally live in Japan and the consensus here is that Daima is a seperate storyline Toriyama wanted to do as a personal project. It was his last work before he died. The whole super thing has been passed over to Toyotarou.

Do you have some sort of official statement that I've never seen before? If so please link it and I'd gladly admit I was wrong.

https://x.com/Tanaken1129/status/1844768296874193007

Edit: The above tweet is what a lot of people I've spoken to agrees on. Theres been no official statement that Daima fits into Supers storyline from what I've seen.

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Foppe
10/27/24 3:17:46 AM
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Does anything in Daima prevent it from being set before Super?

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Hyena_Of_Ice
10/27/24 5:02:15 AM
#82:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Angels? Most likely. Zeno? I don't think that's possible. His 'power' is literally the ability to erase universes, including immortal beings.

So? Goku is exponentially more powerful than Dende, but he can't create Dragonballs or otherwise bring the dead back to life. Potentially, I don't see anything that would prevent Goku from eventually becoming physically stronger and faster than Zeno while still being mortal and unable to manipulate universes.
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LordFarquad1312
10/27/24 11:00:04 AM
#83:


Foppe posted...
Does anything in Daima prevent it from being set before Super?
Not so far, no.

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Gobstoppers12
10/27/24 1:17:40 PM
#84:


Hyena_Of_Ice posted...
Potentially, I don't see anything that would prevent Goku from eventually becoming physically stronger and faster than Zeno while still being mortal and unable to manipulate universes.
Point being, Zeno isn't particularly strong or fast. He just has the power to instantly erase universes on a cosmic level. Goku is already "stronger" than Zeno, most likely, but you can't really surpass instantaneous multi-universe erasure.

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ViewtifulGrave
10/28/24 1:14:37 PM
#85:


Foppe posted...
Does anything in Daima prevent it from being set before Super?
Kabitokais nonexistence.

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Foppe
10/28/24 3:34:06 PM
#86:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
Kabitokais nonexistence.
Daima fixed the plot hole from Super.

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ViewtifulGrave
10/28/24 5:18:34 PM
#87:


Foppe posted...
Daima fixed the plot hole from Super.
And created a new one in the process.

In Super Shin says that they used the Namekian dragon balls to separate.

In Daima Shin says they used Buu to separate.

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Foppe
10/29/24 7:21:20 AM
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Not the first time things have been retconned.

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