Current Events > How can Democrats get the white male vote?

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls

That 37% is killing us. Also wtf at only 34% of American Indians voting democrat.

need to meme better

Get their own white male.

They could start by growing a backbone.

economic policies that readily and clearly benefit them that can be explained to a 6 year old and they would understand it

what I am saying it stimmy stimmy stim stimmy

WingsOfGood posted...

economic policies that readily and clearly benefit them that can be explained to a 6 year old and they would understand it

what I am saying it stimmy stimmy stim stimmy

We don't need more inflation ~.~

Play to their stubborn pride by calling white men who vote Republican spineless weaklings who can only excel by pushing everyone else down rather than through their own merits?

Squall28 posted...

We don't need more inflation ~.~

What do you think Trump tax cuts to the rich will do?

Point is this voter demographic believes Trump will do good for them. To capture them you must do something Trump won't, infact he would like you just did whine about it, but the voters easily understand "so if I vote this person my bank account goes up and my life is better?" which stimmy accomplishes

Squall28 posted...

Also wtf at only 34% of American Indians voting democrat.

Why would you expect a lot of Indian-Americans to vote Democrat? It's just a weird assertion. (Unless you mean Native Americans, which it'd be weird to call them American Indians.)

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Yeah, surprisingly radical policies that attack men don't tend to go over well with men. Who could've known? But even more than that, a lot of policies don't really address men's issues or wants. When a campaign's topline issue is abortion, most men -- and a lot of women -- are going to check out. Democrats keep assuming this is the biggest issue people care about, but it's really not. Especially since it's legal in most states anyway.

Count_Drachma posted...

Why would you expect a lot of Indian-Americans to vote Democrat? It's just a weird assertion. (Unless you mean Native Americans, which it'd be weird to call them American Indians.)

I'm just going by the poll name.

SpawnShadow posted...

Play to their stubborn pride by calling white men who vote Republican spineless weaklings who can only excel by pushing everyone else down rather than through their own merits?

This is awful. This is just what you want.

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I do agree men's issues needs to be addressed better, but the problem is a lot of these men just don't want to engage in the self improvement they would need to.

Also, I think we need cultural influence from the top down. Get notable faces like AOC to speak up for men. Literally not much beyond just visibly saying shit like "we acknowledge the suicide and loneliness rates and think twitter should stop being such assholes about white men" would do wonders.

Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...

I do agree men's issues needs to be addressed better, but the problem is a lot of these men just don't want to engage in the self improvement they would need to.

TBF, the self-improvement industry is wildly popular with men. It's just right dominated for some reason.

Stop treating every man like a crap. Like as a black man the dems would not stop attacking us calling us sexist and shit like that. When are their second most loyal voting block. Oddly they didn't attack white men nearly as much. So but all in all stop treating guys a like the devil.

cjsdowg posted...

Stop treating every man like a crap. Like as a black man the dems would not stop attacking us calling us sexist and shit like that. When are their second most loyal voting block. Oddly they didn't attack white men nearly as much. So but all in all stop treating guys a like the devil.

Yeah I was looking at their voting percentages, and it was very solid. Meanwhile, white men just skated on by.

Legalizing sex work and brothels at the federal level. That should be a policy platform to run on, and I bet you will get a significant chunk of young of men to vote Democrat just on that.

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Not only did nobody, as far as I'm aware, do that this time around, Harris & Walz both made it a point that they're gunowners who (because our shit ass media doesn't know how to pull their heads out of their asses) confirmed that, yes, they have fired their gun (at least in the case of Harris, Walz is a known hunter so it was already known).

But the problem of gun violence isn't going away and that's a core Dem party issue. Should Dems betray the rest of their base to appease white men? As a white many myself, I say fuck that, those fuckheads should learn to value human beings more than their killsticks.

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Uh, Hillary proposed this with renewable energy and West Virginia hasn't gone blue since.

jefffan posted...

Uh, Hillary proposed this with renewable energy and West Virginia hasn't gone blue since.

She did so in a condescending, unlikable way.

Put up a decent candidate

Funnily enough Harris did better with white men and women compared to Biden. Its the majority of Hispanic men that went to Trump even voting for him at a higher percentage than white women.

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But the dems were not doing that.

It really feels like everyone else is in a abusive relationship with a group that has to be told they are the masters of the universe and are perfect in every way or they will burn everything down...because that's all what happened with them electing Trump.

Im sort of confused as to how they arent trying to address mens issues? Like all democratic policies it just comes down to messaging

the biggest problem is republicans and their media are allowed to define the narrative and dems never push back

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Examples of "censorship of male interests"?

Squall28 posted...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls

That 37% is killing us. Also wtf at only 34% of American Indians voting democrat.

I read all of that. Holy shit. Republicans are really brainwashed and generally more uneducated. It's nuts they have an inverse reaction to Democrats (based on those polls) in nearly every category (immigration, economy, abortion, etc).

Things like taking away " Sexiness" and being " political correct" and other things that took away what men wanted and more.

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Naw with treating men like crap . People speaking on behalf of Dems were doing that stuff. Video games banning the horny is just business.

TheGoldenEel posted...

Im sort of confused as to how they arent trying to address mens issues? Like all democratic policies it just comes down to messaging

the biggest problem is republicans and their media are allowed to define the narrative and dems never push back

I feel like they pushed back quite a bit, I at least heard the Harris campaign and Dems in Congress here and there doing so. The problem is our corporate/mainstream media is intentionally against her and Dem messaging of pushing back against the narrative because they legitimize the right-wing narrative as the true national discussion.

Kaitlin Collins in her interview with Harris literally asked her to respond to Trump accusing her of "just turning black", was in disbelief that Harris didn't want to deign such asininity with a response, and then the next day Politico had a headline "Harris runs away from identity". These people cried and complained that she never gave policies while refusing to ever demand it of Trump or spreading the ageism/cognitive decline narrative against him once Biden dropped out, and then when she does they're just like "pfft whatever, WHY WON'T YOU SIT DOWN AND DO INTERVIEWS WITH US?!"

Yes Dems have a problem with messaging and yes their counter narrative apparently didn't reach millions of voters, I'm just not sure how they fix that, honestly. The social media team Harris had was great on Twitter and I know she had an active TikTok, their ads were great, she tried to bypass mainstream national media by sitting down with local news stations/doing widely viewed podcasts/shows like Oprah and the View in order to get her actual message out there without dealing with the bullshit mainstream media boosting the Republican narrative, and it just didn't seem like enough.

Like, we all know that their messaging sucks and they need to get better at getting it out there, however I like never see anybody actually offer any solutions on how to meaningfully achieve that, because honestly I'm not sure if they actually can.

Right-wingers own the majority of media in this country, the mainstream corporate stations are either directly beholden to their interests or it's financially within their interest to do so, Sinclair Broadcasting owns most local stations, they own the AM radio game which greatly influences rural voters, and apparently they even win at the social media game.

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You better not be talking about big titties in vidya games.

@Necronmon

Things like taking away " Sexiness" and being " political correct" and other things that took away what men wanted and more.

1. And this is why good faith is difficult. oversensitivity is bad when women, LGBTQ+ individuals or people of differing nationalities display it, but being called out (Not falsely accused) on proven bigotry is going too far?

It's like a student starting a fist fight and being upset his target had the audacity to hit back.

2. Heck, I dare say that bigotry like the old policy of restricting seats on the bus or opposing LGBTQ+ presence in the media is oversensitivity.

Step 1. Stimulus package for all
Step 2. Tax breaks for having children
Step 3. No income tax at all if you earn under $100k
Step 4. Federalize Property tax

Count_Drachma posted...

Why would you expect a lot of Indian-Americans to vote Democrat? It's just a weird assertion. (Unless you mean Native Americans, which it'd be weird to call them American Indians.)

More indigenous people prefer the term American Indian than Native American. And many Indian-Americans live here in the Bay Area, which is, in fact, largely Democratic.

I think it's cuz they were very impressed with the notion of deporting everyone

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to be clear we're comparing to the republican party whose platform is to ban porn

"to be clear we're comparing to the republican party whose platform is to ban porn"

" I don't need porn anymore God Emperor Trump will give us all wives!"

Probably could get a significant boost across all demographics if you run on adding zeroes to their checking account.

Smashingpmkns posted...

Probably could get a significant boost across all demographics if you run on adding zeroes to their checking account.

How does one accomplish this? "We'll force employers to pay you more"?

At this point I'm not convinced it's possible to win an election with intelligence. Just tell people whatever the fuck they want to hear regardless of whatever reality actually is or whatever relevance it has on politics.

If people want to hear that Arnold Palmer has a huge dick, talk about Arnold Palmer's huge dick. How does that feed working class families or lower gas prices? It doesn't. But that's what the people want and will vote for, apparently.

Smashingpmkns posted...

Probably could get a significant boost across all demographics if you run on adding zeroes to their checking account.

oh you mean like by raising the minimum wage and enforcing worker protections and supporting unions?

wtf are men issues and how are men being treated like shit?

Stop making fun of candidates like Bernie for having a "disproportionately white male voter base" in the primaries for one.