Poll of the Day > Maturing is realizing that the Sega Genesis ar least on par with the SNES.

(+) Yeah! (+)

no

I never really take hardware arguments into account, because there's never been a point anywhere in the last 40 years where I've ever given a shit about the hardware at all. Games and genres mean far more to me than CPUs and blast processing

sega had a few really cool titles that didn't get as much love as they probably should have, like ecco

My brain finds it impossible to ever think about Ecco, because that spot in my memory bank is completely filled with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byP17uCAr9Y

If anything the Genesis sucked even harder, since you now have the ability to reflect on their libraries without the taint of only being able to own one console.

Even though I think SNES had stronger RPGs over all with Chrono Trigger

fight me

preferably outside of a walmart and also you're gonna have to be the billionaire in this scenario

One of the extremely few JRPGs I've played since I became an adult

You some designated Chrono Trigger hater or something?

I played Chrono Trigger only in 2020 and it blew me away with its quality and execution. One of the extremely few JRPGs I've played since I became an adult that impressed me.

Chrono Trigger is one of the most overrated JRPGs ever.

People have been fellating it for decades now, and it's an above average game at best. It's got one neat gimmick and a story that was slightly more elaborate for the time it was released (but not THAT ground-breaking). But it has characters that look like Dragon Ball Z, so Millennials can't stop spasming.

At this point people big it up more because its reputation is self-perpetuating rather than because it actually deserves it (especially if you view it through the modern lens rather than judging it as a product of its own time).

It's like how people will squee over Earthbound/Mother 2 in spite of the fact that almost no one has ever played it. Or the converse, where people will crap on Superman 64, Big Rigs, or ET as the worst games ever, when most people talking about them today have never played them.

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I'm biased as a Nintendo kid, but I did love visiting people that had a Genesis. Thing is, I find that the 'top' games on SNES were still of a higher quality, at least in game/level design. That's just generally, of course there are standouts on the Genesis. I know it's not really a fair direct comparison, but take the leading IP from each. I love the Sonic games, but in my opinion there's a lot less thoughtful game design in them in contrast to 1st party Nintendo platformers.

I love both though, I like looking at game libraries on all different consoles collectively. I own a Sega Saturn lol.

Let me think of the best SNES games.

Street Fighter 2

Super Castlevania IV

Contra 3: Alien Wars

SNES probably still wins.

What you said are my precise thoughts on Dragon Quest.

I agree that the concept of Chrono Trigger is rather simple but I think it is executed so well that it is a joy to play through. I didn't have any nostalgia for the game since I didn't have it growing up, I just don't think most JRPGs were as well made as Chrono Trigger is. The battle system is brilliantly simple that's built around specific memorable encounters, the story progression is super engaging, the characters are very fun and emotive and the set pieces are interesting with that unique Toriyama charm.

When I think of the tip of the top of Genesis games, I don't think of Sonic first. I usually think of Rocket Knight, Gunstar Heroes, Phantasy Star, Streets of Rage 2, Contra Hard Corps (imo best Contra game in the series), Castlevania Bloodlines, Monster World IV and Shining Force.

That said I think Sonic 3&K is better than most of the Mario series platformers. Only Yoshi's Island beats it.

I wouldn't disagree. With DQ, I'd argue that a large part of its appeal as a franchise is tied to the fact that the original game was somewhat trend-setting (though there's always an argument that it didn't do anything that games like Ultima didn't do first), which in turn made it memetically good to the Japanese audience. Which in turn colored their opinions of every successive title. Dragon Quest became THE RPG franchise for them, because it WAS the original RPG franchise they'd lost their minds over, and from that point on nostalgia (both personal and cultural) influenced the reception of every successive game.

I'd argue that the same thing happened with Final Fantasy in the West. Especially once FFVII became the default "first RPG" for a lot of people.

Which actually makes it interesting that DQ never really caught on in the West the way it did in Japan. Potentially being evidence of just how much cultural expectations played a role in its phenomenal success in Japan.

Not even the best fighter on SNES. But that aside, its also on Genesis (well, SCE anyways). And PC Engine for that matter. Each port has plusses and minuses.

Bloodlines > Super Easywhipania

Rondo >>>> both

Hard Corps >> Alien Wars

Depends on preferences.

4th gen is the only gen aside from 6th (DC,PS2,GC,XB) where it really benefitted being a multiconsole owner. And the only reason Id possibly put 6th above 4th is that it got really expensive doing that in the 4th gen (what with having to import PCE games and the massive cost of a NEO GEO).

I played Chrono Trigger only in 2020 and it blew me away with its quality and execution. One of the extremely few JRPGs I've played since I became an adult that impressed me.

Genesis has variety, SNES has quality

4th gen is the only gen aside from 6th (DC,PS2,GC,XB) where it really benefitted being a multiconsole owner.

What variety did genesis have that snes didnt?

Maturing is realizing both were great consoles and you don't have to pick one over the other anymore. SNES had great games, and Genesis had great games. Some franchises had better games on SNES (e.g. Aladdin), and some franchises had better games on Genesis (e.g. Contra & Castlevania).

How many times did you replay FF3(6) or Chrono Trigger or Super Metroid

never, and I imagine most people have never replayed them either. except maybe super metroid because it's a different genre and a short game

wolfy42 posted...

How many times did you replay FF3(6) or Chrono Trigger or Super Metroid or forget it there are just too many to mention. SNES was god.

never, and I imagine most people have never replayed them either. except maybe super metroid because it's a different genre and a short game