Current Events > So Even Ivy League Students Are Struggling to Read Whole Novels?

Topic List	Page List: 1
Humble_Novice 11/23/24 10:23:52 PM #1:	https://www.thecollegefix.com/even-ivy-league-students-are-struggling-to-read-whole-novels/ <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:983056779] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>https://www.thecollegefix.com/even-ivy-league-students-are-struggling-to-read-whole-novels/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 11/23/24 10:25:37 PM #2:	The Ivy's have had a pretty shit reputation for quite a while now --- Science and Algorithms <cite>lilORANG posted [p:983056793] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>The Ivy's have had a pretty shit reputation for quite a while now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SAlYAN 11/23/24 10:27:39 PM #3:	Oh no. The kids of rich legacies and donors arent the epitome of intelligence? Gasp. Whatever shall we do? --- Doesn't take a lot of brains to be a good fighter. <cite>SAlYAN posted [p:983056815] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>Oh no. The kids of rich legacies and donors arent the epitome of intelligence?Gasp. Whatever shall we do?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thermador446 11/23/24 10:29:31 PM #4:	I read every Aliens, Predator, AvP and Doom novel available when I was in Jr high. And when I was moving and went to get them last year, my bitch sister threw them all out. --- "While you were wasting your time castrating a priceless antique, I was systematically feeding babies to hungry mutated puppies!" -The Monarch <cite>Thermador446 posted [p:983056830] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>I read every Aliens, Predator, AvP and Doom novel available when I was in Jr high.And when I was moving and went to get them last year, my bitch sister threw them all out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 11/23/24 10:29:42 PM #5:	SAlYAN posted... Oh no. The kids of rich legacies and donors arent the epitome of intelligence? Gasp. Whatever shall we do? To be fair, for as many passes as said schools are willing to give those people, if it's becoming a noticeable issue even for them, imagine how it is for other schools and people who are much less rich. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:983056832] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>SAlYAN posted... </cite><quote>Oh no. The kids of rich legacies and donors arent the epitome of intelligence?Gasp. Whatever shall we do?</quote>To be fair, for as many passes as said schools are willing to give those people, if it's becoming a noticeable issue even for them, imagine how it is for other schools and people who are much less rich.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lcampoy 11/23/24 10:33:01 PM #6:	I heard about this. Its because these students have so much on their plates. Reading a whole novel (or several) in one semeter is very time consuming. Professors need to realize these students are taking other classes besides theirs. this is coming from someone who just graduated college and have a couple professors assign whole books to read. There is just not enough time in the day to read and get As on the other classes. --- 3DS: 1220-8395-9035 <cite>lcampoy posted [p:983056857] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>I heard about this. Its because these students have so much on their plates. Reading a whole novel (or several) in one semeter is very time consuming. Professors need to realize these students are taking other classes besides theirs. this is coming from someone who just graduated college and have a couple professors assign whole books to read. There is just not enough time in the day to read and get As on the other classes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Takuya_Lee 11/23/24 10:38:46 PM #7:	lcampoy posted... I heard about this. Its because these students have so much on their plates. Reading a whole novel (or several) in one semeter is very time consuming. Professors need to realize these students are taking other classes besides theirs. this is coming from someone who just graduated college and have a couple professors assign whole books to read. There is just not enough time in the day to read and get As on the other classes. And thats not even taking into account that college students work as well. --- Narutaki was right. This is all Decade's fault. <cite>Takuya_Lee posted [p:983056896] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>lcampoy posted... </cite><quote>I heard about this. Its because these students have so much on their plates. Reading a whole novel (or several) in one semeter is very time consuming. Professors need to realize these students are taking other classes besides theirs. this is coming from someone who just graduated college and have a couple professors assign whole books to read. There is just not enough time in the day to read and get As on the other classes.</quote>And thats not even taking into account that college students work as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 11/23/24 10:51:50 PM #8:	lcampoy posted... I heard about this. Its because these students have so much on their plates. Reading a whole novel (or several) in one semeter is very time consuming. Professors need to realize these students are taking other classes besides theirs. this is coming from someone who just graduated college and have a couple professors assign whole books to read. There is just not enough time in the day to read and get As on the other classes. Takuya_Lee posted... And thats not even taking into account that college students work as well. I mean, I went to college years ago, worked a full time job while I did, took many classes, and still had no problem reading a book, or even several. The issue isn't time, the issue is that students now aren't being taught how to deal with reading an actual book effectively. Public education has gotten so bad that it's greatly impacting students as they move on further in life. And, to be clear, it's certainly not the teachers' fault. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:983057012] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>lcampoy posted... </cite><quote>I heard about this. Its because these students have so much on their plates. Reading a whole novel (or several) in one semeter is very time consuming. Professors need to realize these students are taking other classes besides theirs.this is coming from someone who just graduated college and have a couple professors assign whole books to read. There is just not enough time in the day to read and get As on the other classes.</quote>Takuya_Lee posted... </cite><quote>And thats not even taking into account that college students work as well.</quote>I mean, I went to college years ago, worked a full time job while I did, took many classes, and still had no problem reading a book, or even several. The issue isn't time, the issue is that students now aren't being taught how to deal with reading an actual book effectively. Public education has gotten so bad that it's greatly impacting students as they move on further in life. And, to be clear, it's certainly not the teachers' fault.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnightofShikari 11/23/24 11:01:10 PM #9:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq-7h55M6NU --- The Earth is round. Two plus two equals four. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won the 2020 election for President and Vice President of the United States <cite>KnightofShikari posted [p:983057111] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq-7h55M6NU</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vegy 11/23/24 11:03:53 PM #10:	Why have da nobles fallen to low??? --- https://i.imgur.com/EoGWPMu.gif https://i.imgur.com/dWmUFeV.gif https://i.imgur.com/xpoEaeu.gif <cite>Vegy posted [p:983057142] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>Why have da nobles fallen to low???</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 11/23/24 11:55:54 PM #11:	lcampoy posted... I heard about this. Its because these students have so much on their plates. Reading a whole novel (or several) in one semeter is very time consuming. Professors need to realize these students are taking other classes besides theirs. this is coming from someone who just graduated college and have a couple professors assign whole books to read. There is just not enough time in the day to read and get As on the other classes. This is stupid. College has not gotten harder. Kids' attention spans are just garbage now bc they are raised on YouTube algorithms. --- Science and Algorithms <cite>lilORANG posted [p:983057590] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>lcampoy posted... </cite><quote>I heard about this. Its because these students have so much on their plates. Reading a whole novel (or several) in one semeter is very time consuming. Professors need to realize these students are taking other classes besides theirs. this is coming from someone who just graduated college and have a couple professors assign whole books to read. There is just not enough time in the day to read and get As on the other classes.</quote>This is stupid. College has not gotten harder. Kids' attention spans are just garbage now bc they are raised on YouTube algorithms. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CreekCo 11/24/24 12:00:24 AM #12:	lilORANG posted... This is stupid. College has not gotten harder. Kids' attention spans are just garbage now bc they are raised on YouTube algorithms. This. If anything, standards are WAY less strenuous. Society is cooked. Smart people arent reading whole books. Really, many people cant read and understand whole posts while we are at it. They pick one thing and run with it. The internet basically has caused knowledge to be higher overall amongst people but understanding others and general comprehension has plummeted. --- It all returns to nothing It just keeps tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down. (NGE) <cite>CreekCo posted [p:983057629] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>lilORANG posted... </cite><quote>This is stupid. College has not gotten harder. Kids' attention spans are just garbage now bc they are raised on YouTube algorithms.</quote>This. If anything, standards are WAY less strenuous. Society is cooked. Smart people arent reading whole books. Really, many people cant read and understand whole posts while we are at it. They pick one thing and run with it. The internet basically has caused knowledge to be higher overall amongst people but understanding others and general comprehension has plummeted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 11/24/24 12:18:07 AM #13:	College has gotten easier, not harder. And I worked full time, yes full time (40 hours a week) while being a full time student. Then went to graduate school and briefly worked as an adjunct professor. Now a research professor in Japan. Students (in the US especially) do not know how to and do not read books. It has absolutely nothing to do with time. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:983057774] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>College has gotten easier, not harder. And I worked full time, yes full time (40 hours a week) while being a full time student. Then went to graduate school and briefly worked as an adjunct professor. Now a research professor in Japan. Students (in the US especially) do not know how to and do not read books. It has absolutely nothing to do with time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 11/24/24 12:24:09 AM #14:	It's not lack of intelligence. It's lack of training, short attention spans, too many distractions, too much expectation that things will be immediate: the whole 'ain't got time for that' culture. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:983057808] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>It's not lack of intelligence.It's lack of training, short attention spans, too many distractions, too much expectation that things will be immediate: the whole 'ain't got time for that' culture.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sfcalimari 11/24/24 12:36:43 AM #15:	I had entire books to read in high school in the 90s. I always read them, but nobody else would and they'd all bullshit their way through talking about them in class or on exams. A lot of these kids went on to Ivy League schools. I didn't but I went to a pretty good college, and even there the students wouldn't read books and would bullshit their way through class discussions while the professors would nod and stroke their chins. Except for the Scarlet Letter, fuck that book. --- "Tether even a roasted chicken." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo <cite>sfcalimari posted [p:983057904] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>I had entire books to read in high school in the 90s.I always read them, but nobody else would and they'd all bullshit their way through talking about them in class or on exams. A lot of these kids went on to Ivy League schools. I didn't but I went to a pretty good college, and even there the students wouldn't read books and would bullshit their way through class discussions while the professors would nod and stroke their chins. Except for the Scarlet Letter, fuck that book.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/24/24 12:40:20 AM #16:	Thermador446 posted... I read every Aliens, Predator, AvP and Doom novel available when I was in Jr high. And when I was moving and went to get them last year, my bitch sister threw them all out. Damn her I read the doom novels in Jr high as well. Though I think I didn't get the last one. I remember there being 4, and I think I only got my hands on the first 3. <cite>Zikten posted [p:983057935] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>Thermador446 posted... </cite><quote>I read every Aliens, Predator, AvP and Doom novel available when I was in Jr high.And when I was moving and went to get them last year, my bitch sister threw them all out.</quote>Damn herI read the doom novels in Jr high as well. Though I think I didn't get the last one. I remember there being 4, and I think I only got my hands on the first 3. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 11/24/24 12:42:33 AM #17:	I liek reading, I just... don't. I used to read in bed, but as I got older I just can't find a good body position for it. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:983057955] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>I liek reading, I just... don't.I used to read in bed, but as I got older I just can't find a good body position for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
#18	Post #18 was unavailable or deleted.
ssb_yunglink2 11/24/24 12:45:22 AM #19:	im not gonna lie i didnt deeply read most of the books throughout my educational career. I had so much shit on my plate that i literally just didnt have the time to get lost in a novel that i wasnt reading for enjoyment I still understood the books, and was able to analyze specific parts much closer when needed, but yeah getting a deep read was a struggle when i needed to read several of them in a short period --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:983057972] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>im not gonna lie i didnt deeply read most of the books throughout my educational career. I had so much shit on my plate that i literally just didnt have the time to get lost in a novel that i wasnt reading for enjoyment I still understood the books, and was able to analyze specific parts much closer when needed, but yeah getting a deep read was a struggle when i needed to read several of them in a short period </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 11/24/24 12:53:35 AM #20:	Is speed reading no longer a thing among students now? <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:983058042] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>Is speed reading no longer a thing among students now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 11/24/24 12:55:34 AM #21:	Humble_Novice posted... Is speed reading no longer a thing among students now? I mean thats what i did. I quickly read through the books and gathered the information i needed. It wasnt for enjoyment, and i literally did not care about parts of the book i wasnt being quizzed or essayed on --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:983058054] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>Is speed reading no longer a thing among students now?</quote>I mean thats what i did. I quickly read through the books and gathered the information i needed. It wasnt for enjoyment, and i literally did not care about parts of the book i wasnt being quizzed or essayed on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KajeI 11/24/24 12:59:32 AM #22:	I read more than everyone else in my class combined in highschool and I still barely read full books these days. I like to think I make up for it by constantly reading manga and about random stuff online, it's not like I had trouble getting through the last books that grabbed me. I pretty much drop everything else whenever a new Dresden Files book comes out, but beyond that I can't think of any novels I've read "recently" that I've even cared to get. Every so often I'll come across a manga and read a ton all at once too. --- Look, I can name a few instances in MY life where I tried to reach mutual understanding and i can TELL you, always faster and easier to just kill em. Just is! <cite>KajeI posted [p:983058088] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>I read more than everyone else in my class combined in highschool and I still barely read full books these days. I like to think I make up for it by constantly reading manga and about random stuff online, it's not like I had trouble getting through the last books that grabbed me.I pretty much drop everything else whenever a new Dresden Files book comes out, but beyond that I can't think of any novels I've read "recently" that I've even cared to get. Every so often I'll come across a manga and read a ton all at once too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandConjuraton 11/24/24 1:06:46 AM #23:	I went to the library quite often as a kid and checked out numerous books at a time; outside of ones I just couldn't get into, I read all of them. Back then, I genuinely loved to read and spent a lot of time doing it. Nowadays? I almost never read. Unless something is specifically calling to me, I just don't find it interesting anymore. I've toyed with getting into writing my own stories, but other than that... --- I'm pretty done, slap me 'round for fun. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:983058158] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>I went to the library quite often as a kid and checked out numerous books at a time; outside of ones I just couldn't get into, I read all of them. Back then, I genuinely loved to read and spent a lot of time doing it.Nowadays? I almost never read. Unless something is specifically calling to me, I just don't find it interesting anymore. I've toyed with getting into writing my own stories, but other than that...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 11/24/24 2:14:29 AM #24:	I read the article. Classic novels leave lots of blanks for the reader to fill in with imagiination. Being able to do this is a skill you learn when you read books to yourself at an early age. Now we actually need studies to firm this up but it sounds like student have fewer opinions of their own because they rely on an analysis instead of reading themselves. People are growing up without learning to analyze for themselves. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 <cite>CobraGT posted [p:983058650] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>I read the article. Classic novels leave lots of blanks for the reader to fill in with imagiination. Being able to do this is a skill you learn when you read books to yourself at an early age.Now we actually need studies to firm this up but it sounds like student have fewer opinions of their own because they rely on an analysis instead of reading themselves. People are growing up without learning to analyze for themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Necronmon 11/24/24 3:16:44 AM #25:	Man this feels like reality more and more with each day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHChe6KY0DQ We have really failed education so much...in the name of" making things to be most effective." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGaPz7f6f2g America really has been so hell bent on " Not wasting time" that the gap between knowledge wisdom has become painfully clear. But its clear that the higher ups really want to make it so that only the elite can think while the masses are mostly mindless disposable cogs... <cite>Necronmon posted [p:983058925] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>Man this feels like reality more and more with each day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHChe6KY0DQWe have really failed education so much...in the name of" making things to be most effective." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGaPz7f6f2gAmerica really has been so hell bent on " Not wasting time" that the gap between knowledge wisdom has become painfully clear. But its clear that the higher ups really want to make it so that only the elite can think while the masses are mostly mindless disposable cogs...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nirvanas_Nox 11/24/24 3:47:13 AM #26:	I loved reading as a kid and I still do now. I can 1000 words a minute so I can finish books pretty damn quick. Helped a lot in school. Still read whole novels daily (depending on how long the book is.) My brother is still in college but can't finish anything lately then again he's never been much of a reader. He bullshits his way through almost everything --- Kee Oth Rama Pancake <cite>Nirvanas_Nox posted [p:983059028] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>I loved reading as a kid and I still do now. I can 1000 words a minute so I can finish books pretty damn quick. Helped a lot in school. Still read whole novels daily (depending on how long the book is.) My brother is still in college but can't finish anything lately then again he's never been much of a reader. He bullshits his way through almost everything </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JustaSandwich 11/24/24 4:20:28 AM #27:	It's the attention spans. As someone with attention deficit disorder who always struggled getting through long books and working on projects and focusing in class compared to my peers 20 years ago, but who still has an easier time than the average student nowadays...yeah it's the fuckin' attention spans. <cite>JustaSandwich posted [p:983059114] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>It's the attention spans. As someone with attention deficit disorder who always struggled getting through long books and working on projects and focusing in class compared to my peers 20 years ago, but who still has an easier time than the average student nowadays...yeah it's the fuckin' attention spans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scardude 11/24/24 12:47:42 PM #29:	lcampoy posted... I heard about this. Its because these students have so much on their plates. Reading a whole novel (or several) in one semeter is very time consuming. Professors need to realize these students are taking other classes besides theirs. this is coming from someone who just graduated college and have a couple professors assign whole books to read. There is just not enough time in the day to read and get As on the other classes. Hi. Studied engineering. I did my classes and was reading several books of my own on top of classes. I could read books in one to three depending days on the length. I still read books at this pace. You are giving excuses for those that don't need it. If they got into such places. They should earn it. --- Above all things, never be afraid. The enemy who forces you to retreat is himself afraid of you at that very moment. <cite>Scardude posted [p:983062021] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>lcampoy posted... </cite><quote>I heard about this. Its because these students have so much on their plates. Reading a whole novel (or several) in one semeter is very time consuming. Professors need to realize these students are taking other classes besides theirs. this is coming from someone who just graduated college and have a couple professors assign whole books to read. There is just not enough time in the day to read and get As on the other classes.</quote>Hi. Studied engineering. I did my classes and was reading several books of my own on top of classes. I could read books in one to three depending days on the length. I still read books at this pace. You are giving excuses for those that don't need it. If they got into such places. They should earn it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nocturnal_traveler 11/24/24 1:05:14 PM #30:	Maybe the books being assigned just don't sound interesting. When I was growing up, we either got to choose our books, or the teachers were good at making the assigned books sound interesting. --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- <cite>nocturnal_traveler posted [p:983062198] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>Maybe the books being assigned just don't sound interesting. When I was growing up, we either got to choose our books, or the teachers were good at making the assigned books sound interesting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kirbymuncher 11/24/24 1:21:21 PM #31:	GrandConjuraton posted... I went to the library quite often as a kid and checked out numerous books at a time; outside of ones I just couldn't get into, I read all of them. Back then, I genuinely loved to read and spent a lot of time doing it. Nowadays? I almost never read. Unless something is specifically calling to me, I just don't find it interesting anymore. I've toyed with getting into writing my own stories, but other than that... I'm sort of like this as well, I'd read constantly as a kid and now I basically never do. It's not really that I don't find it interesting though, I just sort of... don't? Like in the instances where I do start reading a book I will regularly just read the entire thing in one go only getting up for food/water, and enjoy it a lot, but for some reason I rarely do this anymore --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF <cite>kirbymuncher posted [p:983062345] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>GrandConjuraton posted... </cite><quote>I went to the library quite often as a kid and checked out numerous books at a time; outside of ones I just couldn't get into, I read all of them. Back then, I genuinely loved to read and spent a lot of time doing it.Nowadays? I almost never read. Unless something is specifically calling to me, I just don't find it interesting anymore. I've toyed with getting into writing my own stories, but other than that...</quote>I'm sort of like this as well, I'd read constantly as a kid and now I basically never do. It's not really that I don't find it interesting though, I just sort of... don't? Like in the instances where I do start reading a book I will regularly just read the entire thing in one go only getting up for food/water, and enjoy it a lot, but for some reason I rarely do this anymore</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wanderingshade 11/24/24 1:28:48 PM #32:	SAlYAN posted... Oh no. The kids of rich legacies and donors arent the epitome of intelligence? Gasp. --- "You're made of spare parts, aren't ya, bud?" <cite>wanderingshade posted [p:983062416] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>SAlYAN posted... </cite><quote>Oh no. The kids of rich legacies and donors arent the epitome of intelligence?Gasp.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 11/24/24 1:46:12 PM #33:	nocturnal_traveler posted... Maybe the books being assigned just don't sound interesting. When I was growing up, we either got to choose our books, or the teachers were good at making the assigned books sound interesting. Maybe? Its established fact that the classics from the 1700-1950 or so range they assign from are generally boring to students, so Id argue English curriculums are actively designed to make our populace hate reading. On topic, its attention span related. I struggle with this, and I sight read 36 or so books this year, working on 37. Granted, this year I e been reading the Cosmere so many of those were 600-1000+ pages. If I was also doing audio books it would be more like 56. --- https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198052113750 <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:983062598] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>nocturnal_traveler posted... </cite><quote>Maybe the books being assigned just don't sound interesting. When I was growing up, we either got to choose our books, or the teachers were good at making the assigned books sound interesting.</quote>Maybe? Its established fact that the classics from the 1700-1950 or so range they assign from are generally boring to students, so Id argue English curriculums are actively designed to make our populace hate reading.On topic, its attention span related. I struggle with this, and I sight read 36 or so books this year, working on 37. Granted, this year I e been reading the Cosmere so many of those were 600-1000+ pages. If I was also doing audio books it would be more like 56.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hitokoriX 11/24/24 2:38:11 PM #34:	nocturnal_traveler posted... Maybe the books being assigned just don't sound interesting. When I was growing up, we either got to choose our books, or the teachers were good at making the assigned books sound interesting. I gotta disagree. The books I read for school were boring most of the time and the teachers were worse. --- Would you follow a blind man? I would if I was in the dark <cite>hitokoriX posted [p:983063106] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>nocturnal_traveler posted... </cite><quote>Maybe the books being assigned just don't sound interesting. When I was growing up, we either got to choose our books, or the teachers were good at making the assigned books sound interesting.</quote>I gotta disagree. The books I read for school were boring most of the time and the teachers were worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nocturnal_traveler 11/24/24 2:46:57 PM #35:	hitokoriX posted... I gotta disagree. The books I read for school were boring most of the time and the teachers were worse. That's unfortunate. You might've missed out on some great books because of your teachers poor handling of marketing. --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- <cite>nocturnal_traveler posted [p:983063218] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>hitokoriX posted... </cite><quote>I gotta disagree. The books I read for school were boring most of the time and the teachers were worse.</quote>That's unfortunate. You might've missed out on some great books because of your teachers poor handling of marketing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 11/24/24 2:47:36 PM #36:	A lord may fall for three generations. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:983063224] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>A lord may fall for three generations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 11/24/24 2:50:30 PM #37:	Isnt that basically just rich kids whose parents are buying them the degree, the prestige, and the connections these days? <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:983063255] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>Isnt that basically just rich kids whose parents are buying them the degree, the prestige, and the connections these days?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 11/24/24 3:04:56 PM #38:	HashtagSEP posted... To be fair, for as many passes as said schools are willing to give those people, if it's becoming a noticeable issue even for them, imagine how it is for other schools and people who are much less rich. As a high school teacher, its been my experience rich parents are the ones most likely to fight you when you catch the student cheating. Theyre also the ones the principal is most likely to fold for. I bet the top students at a state school are far more likely to read the assignment than those at ivys who are probably the best at gaming the system. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:983063372] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>HashtagSEP posted... </cite><quote>To be fair, for as many passes as said schools are willing to give those people, if it's becoming a noticeable issue even for them, imagine how it is for other schools and people who are much less rich.</quote>As a high school teacher, its been my experience rich parents are the ones most likely to fight you when you catch the student cheating. Theyre also the ones the principal is most likely to fold for. I bet the top students at a state school are far more likely to read the assignment than those at ivys who are probably the best at gaming the system.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Juhanor 11/24/24 3:10:09 PM #39:	Currently a college student doing distance learning. Four classes this semester - fifteen books, with some material handed out piecemeal, on top of journal articles, films, meetings over Teams, discussion posts, papers and a powerpoint, newspaper articles, scholarly sources. No, there is not enough time to engage with all of this material from start to finish. By and large it's a matter of pulling quotes from the readings to support an argument, learning how to find sources via JSTOR or other sites. And to elaborate a bit-- no, I'm not gen z and I'm not addicted to my phone. I live in the middle of nowhere, where my main source of media has literally always been reading; I've read 300 page books and thirty volume series of manga in a DAY before, and no I've never had a problem reading pre-50s books before, either--my preferred period of prose is late 1800s to early 1900s, to the degree I'd rather read a history book from back then than a contemporary one. I run the reading thread on CE and keep a text file of the material I've read over the course of a year, going on four years now. I know about reading. Yes, I'm sure phones and attention span are major contributors to this problem. But the amount of work professors pile onto the students, willfully ignorant or simply uncaring of the fact that they're probably taking other classes, working part or full time, is simply astounding to me. A handful of the professors I've had, have also taken the mind-set of students are engaging with the material in bad faith--trying to cheat or trick them; to make matters worse, some of them--some of them even being ENGLISH TEACHERS--have assignments absolutely rife with grammar mistakes and poor spelling, or even broken links to course-mandatory material. /end rant, just my observations from these past three semesters. <cite>Juhanor posted [p:983063425] in So Even Iv... [t:80890541]...</cite> <quote>Currently a college student doing distance learning. Four classes this semester - fifteen books, with some material handed out piecemeal, on top of journal articles, films, meetings over Teams, discussion posts, papers and a powerpoint, newspaper articles, scholarly sources.No, there is not enough time to engage with all of this material from start to finish. By and large it's a matter of pulling quotes from the readings to support an argument, learning how to find sources via JSTOR or other sites.And to elaborate a bit-- no, I'm not gen z and I'm not addicted to my phone. I live in the middle of nowhere, where my main source of media has literally always been reading; I've read 300 page books and thirty volume series of manga in a DAY before, and no I've never had a problem reading pre-50s books before, either--my preferred period of prose is late 1800s to early 1900s, to the degree I'd rather read a history book from back then than a contemporary one. I run the reading thread on CE and keep a text file of the material I've read over the course of a year, going on four years now. I know about reading.Yes, I'm sure phones and attention span are major contributors to this problem. But the amount of work professors pile onto the students, willfully ignorant or simply uncaring of the fact that they're probably taking other classes, working part or full time, is simply astounding to me. A handful of the professors I've had, have also taken the mind-set of students are engaging with the material in bad faith--trying to cheat or trick them; to make matters worse, some of them--some of them even being ENGLISH TEACHERS--have assignments absolutely rife with grammar mistakes and poor spelling, or even broken links to course-mandatory material./end rant, just my observations from these past three semesters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List	Page List: 1

Current Events > So Even Ivy League Students Are Struggling to Read Whole Novels? (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > So Even Ivy League Students Are Struggling to Read Whole Novels?