Current Events > ITT: I play Pokemon Black

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I think B2/W2 have more stuff, but they also put the daycare in the post-game, so eff that noise. This gen is fun since TMs are infinite-use items -- just as the pokegod intended.

I'm open to suggestions of what my team should eventually be. I'm thinking about at least one of my faves (Excadrill, Musharna) and maybe a flyer I don't usually use (Honchkrow), but the others are up in the air. I normally lean toward the fire starter, but it'd be nice to change it up, so I'll pick Snivy this time. He gets two absorption skills and I had fun with my Vileplume doing that earlier, haha.

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Just have Servine, Munna and Simipour right now. Latter is my HM slave; middle one is unused at the moment 'cause I want a more defense-oriented nature. Serv has been soaking up all the XP, basically, and cruised all the way through the second gym. If there's gonna be more double battles, though, I should probably get Munna up to snuff.

Fire type where

You have to

Haven't decided on my fire-type minion yet. I'll have to look up what's available in this generation. Hopefully it won't end up like Pokemon Pearl (???) where I was planning my team, only to find out there's only two electric types available or something. Or maybe it was fire then, too. Something like that happened and it didn't make me a happy camper.

Vegy posted...

You have to

Oh god, Vegy ran out of batteries mid-post.

Currently seeing if I can find a LV8 Munna with a nature I like. I'd prefer Bold, but could settle for Modest or Calm. Supposing I get one, I'll just put it in my back pocket until I can rush an evolution. A lot of the good psychic moves can be taught with TMs and tutors, I'm sure.

EDIT: Third one I caught was LV8, had Bold nature, and had Synchronize. I'll call that a win.

The desert area after Castelia is full of banger encounters. Darmanitan, Krookidile, Scrafty, Sigilyph, and more.

Plus the fossil that you can instantly revive by backtracking to the previous town.

I think it's north of the metropolis I just got to. Looking at the encounter list, there's nothing I want at the moment, mostly because of plans I've made and trying to avoid overlap, but deserts are usually pretty fun to visit (...with water- and grass-types to clean house). If I hadn't picked the grass starter, I might've got that cactus 'mon, actually.

The fossils are kinda cool, though. Had to look 'em up or I wouldn't even remembered what the hell they are.

I guess you're too far in for me to say "box your starter, all of the Unova starters are shit"

True, I don't really love any of the starters. In the file I saved over, I actually had put Tepig in a box and presumably sharked in some favorites (Steelix, etc.) at LV2, haha. Still, I'd prefer not to resort to stuff like that if I can help it, especially since there are a lot of 'mons introduced in this gen that I do sorta like.

Not some of the fighting types, though -- by and large, they're some of the dumbest-looking and least-inspired ones I've ever seen. I mean, a dude carrying a piece of timber...called Timburr? Emboar is one of the only ones who aren't a complete aesthetic embarassment. Mienshao is okay, I guess, but who's gonna wait until LV50 to level it up, lmao.

Damn, I'm meeting my limitations as the next gym guy is insect-focused and Servine is weak to it. Musharna can't learn any more psychic moves at the moment, so I'll have to find a good third one to use. I could've sworn you could go into this town's sewers to find poisonous stuff...

Got the EXP Share, but didn't find anything I really liked out in the desert patch I access pre-gym. Might have to backtrack and pick up a Pidove on Route 3 (???) and bootstrap it to LV21 for an evolution. I can just bench it later, I guess.

Alright, my bird cleaned the honeycomb out. Whirlipede still tanked enough Air Cutters to be healed by Hyper Potions twice, though, all while spamming Poison Tail. Luckily, I didn't get any status effects.

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Oh snap, I could've gotten Drillbur back in Wellspring Cave. Gonna hike back there and get one, hopefully with a Quiet nature (S.ATK+, Speed-).

Shotgunnova posted...

Oh snap, I could've gotten Drillbur back in Wellspring Cave. Gonna hike back there and get one, hopefully with a Quiet nature (S.ATK+, Speed-).

wat

s atk excadrill, tf is its stat spread?

Quiet was just to even the stat growth slightly, but I haven't found a single one with the trait yet. So far, I have a Relaxed (+DEF, -SPD) one and might just end up rolling with that. Got a few Thunderstones and Everstones during my Repel-fueled searches, too.

EDIT: A Dawn Stone and Dusk Stone, too. Forgot those.

EDIT: Aaaand Earthquake is a physical move, so raising S.ATK doesn't make sense anyway. Oh well.

Is there any chance you can get a Deino?

I think I used one on my old file, or in BW2 somewhere. I suppose that could fill a role, but I've been trying to avoid too much type overlap with dark types, since I want a Honchkrow later. I mean...dark-type minions are almost always the best designs, so I have to resist the temptation. Before I remembered Drilbur, I almost picked up a Sandile for the electric gym.

I don't think I've bothered with Horn Drill since RBY-era entertainment, but maybe it could be a little fun. Finally got Excadrill after letting it soak up XP in the electric gym/town.

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Went back and got Tirtouga, but it doesn't want to breed with this random Tympole I found, even though their egg groups should overlap. Guess I'll wait 'til the game finally gives me a fishing rod.

Shotgunnova posted...

Went back and got Tirtouga, but it doesn't want to breed with this random Tympole I found, even though their egg groups should overlap.

It can take quite a while to get an egg when it's same id and different species.

The daycare dude said they didn't get along with each other, which seems to be the hint they won't breed.

This kinda makes me want to replay B/W, well the Drayano hacks that allow all pokemon to be caught and hidden abilites added to the regular pool. Contrary Snivy was fun and added dragon typing is great. Though kinda late to get Leaf Storm.

That's just lowest rate, it would say the same thing if it was Tirtouga + Carracosta. They don't like playing together/they prefer to play with others is the one for can't breed together.

Shotgunnova posted...

The daycare dude said they didn't get along with each other, which seems to be the hint they won't breed.

IIRC dont get along is the lowest rate for breeding. If they say something about other pokemon is when they cant breed.

Maybe I'll try again once I get Fly. Backtracking through 20 screens, then 20 back to Driftveil, is quite tiresome, haha.

EDIT: Oh, Bianca just gave me HM02 after I kicked Clay's (and her) ass. Nice.

Feels like Chargestone Cave had double the encounter rate everywhere else had, to the point I got attacked three times in a space of about six tiles and/or direction changes. But, I'm out now and found the move rememberer so Musharna can use Psybeam, which doubles its usability (it's been sitting unused for awhile with the EXP Share).

I wanna replay Black 2, but all my PWT pokemon are on there.

1 save file is bullshit, I'm glad you can get around it with multiple switch accounts now.

Vengeance29 posted...

I wanna replay Black 2, but all my PWT pokemon are on there.

1 save file is bullshit, I'm glad you can get around it with multiple switch accounts now.

Its not hard to dump your copy of the game, perfectly legal really, so long as you dont sell or distribute it. Then you can apply real fun fan made patches like Drayano's. So hard to go back to regular pokemon after those. Though some people make the games way too freaking hard. Really dont want to min/max all the time to get past a gym.

Get a Darmanitan that thing is a beast.

kuwab0 posted...

Get a Darmanitan that thing is a beast.

This. He's Emboar but better in every way

Ahhhhh, one-shotting Pignite with Excadrill's Earthquake. Melt it down and put that in my veins.

kuwab0 posted...

Get a Darmanitan that thing is a beast.

Maybe, but he looks stupid, so I don't really wanna.

I second the Darmanitan recommendation. It basically invalidates Emboar's entire existence.

LightHawKnight posted...

Then you can apply real fun fan made patches like Drayano's. So hard to go back to regular pokemon after those. Though some people make the games way too freaking hard. Really dont want to min/max all the time to get past a gym.

Speaking of fan-made patches, SmithPlays is releasing Emerald Legacy tomorrow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvoWYcvamd8

I had a lot of fun with his previous ROM hacks Yellow Legacy and Crystal Legacy, and this one looks fantastic too.

sorry, yeah by that point I thought he was fast physical attacker, which is why I was confused. Should have been more specific

There's really no better fire option available than Darmitan? I've been needing something for grass and ice types, but I'd prefer almost anything else (I'm having deja vu about using a Zebstrika with Flame Charge on an old file). Hell, I can't even get a friggin' Eevee or something. Looking at the Unova Dex, it seems most are either legendaries or ones I can't get. I mean, there IS that dumb ghost/fire type in the graveyard tower, but it evolves at LV41 and its stat growth is trash, so I'm immediately not interested.

In other news, I'm at the ice city and just bought the Thunder TM. Nothing to use it on so far, but it's a little better than the others in my experience. I hope it still has ten uses this generation, anyway.

Shotgunnova posted...

There's really no better fire option available than Darmitan? I've been needing something for grass and ice types, but I'd prefer almost anything else (I'm having deja vu about using a Zebstrika with Flame Charge on an old file). Hell, I can't even get a friggin' Eevee or something. Looking at the Unova Dex, it seems most are either legendaries or ones I can't get.

You didn't start with Tepig so Emboar is off the table, Heatmor isn't found until Victory Road very late in the game, and Volcarona is locked to the postgame. That means your only realistic Fire-type options in B/W are Simisear, Darmanitan, and Chandelure. That's it. It's either one of those 3, hack something in, or don't use a Fire-type.

there IS that dumb ghost/fire type in the graveyard tower

Imagine not liking the absolute perfection of a design that is Chandelure.

Chandelure is the best fire type in Unova.

Phantom_Nook posted...

Chandelure is the best fire type in Unova.

It really is. Hell, even if you can't find a Dusk Stone to evolve it to Chandelure, Lampent with the Eviolite equipped can still be really useful for a playthrough.

I have a Dusk Stone already, but I don't want 40 levels of mediocre growth. Not sure two back-to-back evolutions would make up for it, as much as I like certain ghosts. Either way, I'm in the process of catching a female Darumaka, so I guess I'll go that route.

Shotgunnova posted...

but I don't want 40 levels of mediocre growth.

Then don't. You find wild Litwick at level 26-29 in the Celestial Tower, which is only 12-15 levels away from its evolution level. Your insistence on breeding Pokemon and raising them from level 1 only makes things more difficult and inconvenient, especially in Unova where evolution levels are (on average) unusually high compared to other regions.

Actually, I already got an egg-raised Darmanitan up to LV36, so it's really not that hard.

Name your next catch after me.

Actually, on all my recent replays, I haven't done nicknames. Sorry!

Wait, I have to beat the Elite Four to get a Murkrow?

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In B1W1, only new Pokmon are available before the credits roll.

It was a whole thing in 2011.

I know they do that to showcase the newer types, but, man, it's just a bummer most of the time. I don't think it matters too much with some of the generic switches (does anyone pine for Pidgey over Pidove?), but they should have mixed it up a bit more. Just another reason why Gen 2 is best gen.

Black 2 and White 2 added some Gen 1-4 mons to the wild for better variety. Some really good ones too. Riolu, Growlithe, Magby/Elekid (version exclusives), Mareep, the list goes on.

Shotgunnova posted...

I know they do that to showcase the newer types, but, man, it's just a bummer most of the time. I don't think it matters too much with some of the generic switches (does anyone pine for Pidgey over Pidove?), but they should have mixed it up a bit more. Just another reason why Gen 2 is best gen.

B/W are the only mainline non-remake Pokemon games that do this though. All of the others had at least some Pokemon from other generations available during the main story, even if it was only a fraction of the dex, but B/W had literally zero non-Unova Pokemon available until the postgame.

Going through a region backwards is kinda novel, so I'm okay with that concept, but it also puts the daycare center in the post-game, which is simply unacceptable. That should never happen in any gen that allows breeding. If not for that, I might've replayed BW2 instead of BW1, haha.

Calwings posted...

B/W are the only mainline non-remake Pokemon games that do this though. All of the others had at least some Pokemon from other generations available during the main story, even if it was only a fraction of the dex, but B/W had literally zero non-Unova Pokemon available until the postgame.

They were smoking some bath salts to even dream up excluding previous gens from the "regular game" segments. There are some decent critters in Gen V, so it's not a complete wash, but the absence of stalwarts like Eevee, Ekans, Koffing, etc. is definitely felt. I mean, I can understand certain environmental or geographical factors limiting availability, but I don't want to hear anything about ghosts having migration patterns -- Gastly should appear in any ghost-related haunt with the rest of 'em.

Alright, currently training my flyer and water types to get up to snuff for the E4. Their initial ranges seem to go up to LV50, so that's about where my party is right now (except my all-rounder Excadrill, who's LV55 or something). Lucky Egg + EXP Share is a pretty good combo so far as I grind these wild Heatmors into ketchup-colored dust.