Current Events > lol fuck the Dragon Quest 3 post-game wtf

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The difficulty spike is completely insane and the amount of time you have to spend grinding to level up and reset all your characters like 2-3 times each is just nuts.

I gave it a rest during the dark world, enemies were not fun. It's like every single enemy:

Has a powerful physical attack
Has strong magic that hits everyone
Can incapacitate you some way (dazzle, paralysis, etc)
Can heal the other monsters

Plus there are anywhere from 4 to 6 of them each battle and they can take multiple turns. If the postgame is worse, wow.

It's immediately like 10 times worse as soon as you start through the post-game content.

Like the first place you have to get through to even get to the main post-game area literally has one of the end-game bosses as a normal enemy in random encounters and there's a chance at running into 3 of them at once and they aren't even nerfed from the boss battle lmao.

I didn't bother with post game.

Not gonna lie, I switched to easy mode to do the post game stuff.

I wanted to finish the game before I moved on to something else but didn't want to have to grind a bunch to do it.

It was fun on the GBC back in 2001. Can't imagine I'd want to grind enough to beat Xenlol a half dozen times in this day and age.

tf I was thinking about getting this; and generally I like grinding, but that sounds insane even to me

are there any extremely busted builds/skills/whatever you can use?

I was done with the game as soon as I beat the final boss. Unless the post game content has some sort of story that ties back into the plot of the game, it can fuck off.

Alucard188 posted...

I was done with the game as soon as I beat the final boss. Unless the post game content has some sort of story that ties back into the plot of the game, it can fuck off.

There's a story thing you can get from beating Xenlon (the ultimate final boss) but its pretty small.

Alteres posted...

are there any extremely busted builds/skills/whatever you can use?

There's literally like two viable builds for beating the post-game entirely on anything but Dracky (easy mode). Both of them require absolutely insane amounts of grinding and seed farming.

And even on Dracky you still need to find a way to do enough damage to beat two of the bosses within their turn requirements - you just don't have to worry about healing.

Bio1590 posted...

There's literally like two viable builds for beating the post-game entirely on anything but Dracky (easy mode). Both of them require absolutely insane amounts of grinding and seed farming.

And even on Dracky you still need to find a way to do enough damage to beat two of the bosses within their turn requirements - you just don't have to worry about healing.

The Monster Wrangler class was tailor made for QOL and postgame due to Monster Pile On dealing stat ignoring damage and Wild Side.

Dracky mode is meant for grinding postgame since LMS farming is so inconsistent even with all the tools. The triple hydra fights nets 70k exp.

I was able to platimum the game on standard difficulty with:
Hero
Thief>Warrior>MW>Gadabout>Sage>Warrior
Monster Wrangler>Thief>Martial Artist
Mage>Sage>MW>Gadabout>Sage

Basically Hero on healing duty, everyone else spams Wild Side and Pile On.

Pitbuller_26 posted...

The Monster Wrangler class was tailor made for QOL and postgame due to Monster Pile On dealing stat ignoring damage and Wild Side.

Dracky mode is meant for grinding postgame since LMS farming is so inconsistent even with all the tools. The triple hydra fights nets 70k exp.

I was able to platimum the game on standard difficulty with:
Hero
Thief>Warrior>MW>Gadabout>Sage>Warrior
Monster Wrangler>Thief>Martial Artist
Mage>Sage>MW>Gadabout>Sage

Basically Hero on healing duty, everyone else spams Wild Side and Pile On.

Wow, I have a way to go. I'm on Draconian difficulty but I'm guessing the post game content isn't worth playing unless I dial down the grinding.

I've never played DQ3 before, so I'm taking my time with the main story. I've been playing blind without guides with the exception of some of the friendly monster locations since I have no patience to try to figure out what time of day I need to be in specific spots. I have 1 orb and I just had my first class change. Merchant to a Warrior. I'm 30ish hours in but I'm guessing it's going to take 100+ hours to do everything. I know where another orb is located but I got surprise attacked by Phantasms and wiped out in a few turns.

yeah i kinda gave up at the final dungeon (before post-game) when the random enemies had one shot abilities, high defense, and high hp. then saw the boss pretty much had the same thing but worse

Pitbuller_26 posted...

The Monster Wrangler class was tailor made for QOL and postgame due to Monster Pile On dealing stat ignoring damage and Wild Side.

Dracky mode is meant for grinding postgame since LMS farming is so inconsistent even with all the tools. The triple hydra fights nets 70k exp.

I was able to platimum the game on standard difficulty with:
Hero
Thief>Warrior>MW>Gadabout>Sage>Warrior
Monster Wrangler>Thief>Martial Artist
Mage>Sage>MW>Gadabout>Sage

Basically Hero on healing duty, everyone else spams Wild Side and Pile On.

Yeah but that's what I mean with viable builds lol. Every one of your characters went through Monster Wrangler and is on at least their third class.

Send every character through every class game complete

Bio1590 posted...

Yeah but that's what I mean with viable builds lol. Every one of your characters went through Monster Wrangler and is on at least their third class.

I guess spamming Monster Pile-On is a legitamate strategy but it sounds boring to me. I hear Persecutter is another great skill in the post game (6x damage on sleeping/paralyzed foes). I'm hoping to only do 2 class changes per party member. To be honest, the grind up to level 20 doesn't take too long when you can reliably take out metal slimes. I haven't unlocked enough of the game to find LMS's but I think I will soon.

Think that's bad? The difficulty spike with the secret boss in Dragon's Quest XI is lol good luck with that! To this day, I still don't know how I won! Once the boss started breaking my shields, I had to sacrifice a character a couple of times to bring back my entire party.

I wish they would have let us reclass the Hero after completing the main story.

KnightofShikari posted... yeah i kinda gave up at the final dungeon (before post-game) when the random enemies had one shot abilities, high defense, and high hp. then saw the boss pretty much had the same thing but worse

I hate to sound like a nub, but the amount of BS this game had past the halfway mark was ridiculous. It felt like half the encounters were almost boss-tier level with crap like moving twice or even THRICE before you get a turn, breath moves that can kill your team very easily if RNG is against you, high frequency of crit-type desperation moves, randomly fluctuating HP values (one enemy will have like 20 HP while another monster in the same group will have 100), and then not helping matters at all was that the encounter rate was through the roof which basically required you use items or spells to tone it down. I think I was healing after every encounter toward the end.

And of course, if you happen to run a bad team comp, it's not an easy fix either as changing your class sends that character all the way back to level 1, which could require hours of grinding to get them back to normal.

i highly doubt anyone who says a game is grindy and usually just write it off as a skill issue tbh. people say rpgs are grindy all the time when they're not

these type of topics always just make me want to play a game to see if the criticisms are real

anttttt posted...

i highly doubt anyone who says a game is grindy and usually just write it off as a skill issue tbh. people say rpgs are grindy all the time when they're not

these type of topics always just make me want to play a game to see if the criticisms are real

Yeah, it's usually just a specific battle or dungeon, like the True Final Millennium Tower dungeon or the secret boss in Dragon's Quest XI, that makes a game feel grindy af.

cant be worse than DQ11s post game which ruins my favorite characters character arc

Alteres posted...

are there any extremely busted builds/skills/whatever you can use?

Yes. High level martial artists with wild side can do x2 attacks per turn. If they're buffed, an attack like multi-fist can do a lot of damage.

There's hydra enemies you can farm in the volcano section of the post game dungeon that give large amounts of exp, but they're pretty tough if you don't already have a team that can bring them down. You can get to around level 75-80 or so fighting these fairly quickly, getting to 99 is still a massive grind though.

AceMos posted...

cant be worse than DQ11s post game which ruins my favorite characters character arc

I played maybe a half hour of Act 3. I thought Act 2 had an appropriate ending and it made zero sense to keep it going.

Hayame_Zero posted...

I played maybe a half hour of Act 3. I thought Act 2 had an appropriate ending and it made zero sense to keep it going.

agreed act 2 made me CRY at points it was so well done