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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/04/us/politics/trump-gaza-strip-netanyahu.html
Trump Proposes U.S. Takeover of Gaza and Says All Palestinians Should Leave

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Alright, I'm going to be honest, this smug bullshit is getting old on here.

More than likely, these people voted this way, because people like you wouldn't support them enough to know that you could convince Democrats to also not kill them.

Perhaps they thought getting you guys killed too is preferable than them voting to save you, and then you guys do nothing. You people can't even offer so much as sympathy for people that would be fucked no matter what timeline they voted for.

If anyone has truly gone mask off, it's people like you.

pazzy posted...

Alright, I'm going to be honest, this smug bullshit is getting old on here.

More than likely, these people voted this way, because people like you wouldn't support them enough to know that you could convince Democrats to also not kill them.

Perhaps they thought getting you guys killed too is preferable than them voting to save you, and then you guys do nothing. You people can't even offer so much as sympathy for people that would be fucked no matter what timeline they voted for.

If anyone has truly gone mask off, it's people like you.

...And these are people you say should be sympathized with?

I know you're super desperate to "Both sides are the same, actually you're worse," champ, but, uh...

lydiaquayle posted...

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/04/us/politics/trump-gaza-strip-netanyahu.html
Trump Proposes U.S. Takeover of Gaza and Says All Palestinians Should Leave

This needs to be repeated to constantly remind people that withholding votes was and always is a bad idea.

And look what has happened. Trump wants to displace them all.

If a voter had to choose between Kamala's unspoken acceptance of continued genocide & slaughter, or a Trump plan to relocate the Gazan's to another country, then it's completely understandable for that voter to pull the lever for Trump.

lydiaquayle posted...

And look what has happened. Trump wants to displace them all.

And other communities will be too busy focusing on their own survival to even help them.

What's wrong with wanting Biden to be better than he was?

His administration broke the law to fund a war criminal and his ethnic cleansing. The fact that Trump is orders of magnitude worse does not mean that no one should ever have questioned Biden.

refmon posted...

If a voter had to choose between Kamala's unspoken acceptance of continued genocide & slaughter, or a Trump plan to relocate the Gazan's to another country, then it's completely understandable for that voter to pull the lever for Trump.

But no other country is going to actually accept these people in the first place.

ai123 posted...

What's wrong with wanting Biden to be better than he was?

His administration broke the law to fund a war criminal and his ethnic cleansing. The fact that Trump is orders of magnitude worse does not mean that no one should ever have questioned Biden.

We should absolutely demand better from our Democratic representatives, but sowing discord when a fascist is trying to take over isn't the way to do that.

refmon posted...

If a voter had to choose between Kamala's unspoken acceptance of continued genocide & slaughter, or a Trump plan to relocate the Gazan's to another country, then it's completely understandable for that voter to pull the lever for Trump.

Tell that to the Gazans, and see what they think.

refmon posted...

If a voter had to choose between Kamala's unspoken acceptance of continued genocide & slaughter, or a Trump plan to relocate the Gazan's to another country, then it's completely understandable for that voter to pull the lever for Trump.

The actual Palestinians were saying "Anybody but Trump," so I'm not sure your theory holds water.

HashtagSEP posted...

...And these are people you say should be sympathized with?

I know you're super desperate to "Both sides are the same, actually you're worse," champ, but, uh...

This is not a both sides are the same. Fuck off with that. Are you still saying stupid shit like this even now? Like come the fuck on. You'd rather be smug and punch down than actually be productive.

pazzy posted...

This is not a both sides are the same. Fuck off with that. Are you still saying stupid shit like this even now? Like come the fuck on. You'd rather be smug and punch down than actually be productive.

You literally just made a post saying "How dare you don't have sympathy for the people that voted to kill you."

We did NOT vote to kill them, so why should we have sympathy with Trump voters?

Were they fucked either way? Maybe, maybe not. The point is, we voted for the better option.

You're arguing they voted to kill us, and we should have sympathy.

pazzy posted...

Alright, I'm going to be honest, this smug bullshit is getting old on here.

More than likely, these people voted this way, because people like you wouldn't support them enough to know that you could convince Democrats to also not kill them.

Perhaps they thought getting you guys killed too is preferable than them voting to save you, and then you guys do nothing. You people can't even offer so much as sympathy for people that would be fucked no matter what timeline they voted for.

If anyone has truly gone mask off, it's people like you.

shut the fuck up

refmon posted...

If a voter had to choose between Kamala's unspoken acceptance of continued genocide & slaughter, or a Trump plan to relocate the Gazan's to another country, then it's completely understandable for that voter to pull the lever for Trump.

No voters were faced with anything close to that choice. The choice was Kamala's weakly resisting the genocide, and Trump assisting and accelerating the genocide, intentionally killing far more people than Kamala would have tried and failed to save.

Voting for Trump was indefensibly evil on all accounts.

HashtagSEP posted...

You literally just made a post saying "How dare you don't have sympathy for the people that voted to kill you."

We did NOT vote to kill them, so why should we have sympathy with Trump voters?

Were they fucked either way? Maybe, maybe not. The point is, we voted for the better option.

You're arguing they voted to kill us, and we should have sympathy.

Lol no. I made a post that said I'm sick of you people acting smug about it.

Even if the end, you people still act like assholes to these people. You never cared about them. You cared about yourself.

refmon posted...

If a voter had to choose between Kamala's unspoken acceptance of continued genocide & slaughter, or a Trump plan to relocate the Gazan's to another country, then it's completely understandable for that voter to pull the lever for Trump.

I'm sure the relocation will be peaceful and beautiful. There will be fields with lots of space for the Palestinians to run around, and just the best food. They'll be so happy there. Just like when your childhood pet went to live on a farm.

pazzy posted...

Lol no.

pazzy posted...

Alright, I'm going to be honest, this smug bullshit is getting old on here.

More than likely, these people voted this way, because people like you wouldn't support them enough to know that you could convince Democrats to also not kill them.

Perhaps they thought getting you guys killed too is preferable than them voting to save you, and then you guys do nothing. You people can't even offer so much as sympathy for people that would be fucked no matter what timeline they voted for.

If anyone has truly gone mask off, it's people like you.

pazzy posted...

You never cared about them. You cared about yourself.

No, the people who never cared were the people who saw the Palestinians begging "Anybody but Trump," and went "No, fuck you, I know better than you. Trump it is."

pazzy posted...

Alright, I'm going to be honest, this smug bullshit is getting old on here.

More than likely, these people voted this way, because people like you wouldn't support them enough to know that you could convince Democrats to also not kill them.

Perhaps they thought getting you guys killed too is preferable than them voting to save you, and then you guys do nothing. You people can't even offer so much as sympathy for people that would be fucked no matter what timeline they voted for.

If anyone has truly gone mask off, it's people like you.

Wow.

This is definitely a post.

Not a good one, but it's a post.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

No voters were faced with anything close to that choice. The choice was Kamala's weakly resisting the genocide, and Trump assisting and accelerating the genocide, intentionally killing far more people than Kamala would have tried and failed to save.

Voting for Trump was indefensibly evil on all accounts.

Both are shitty options and show how far our government has fallen. But anyone punching at these people and not the other people are beyond idiotic and frustrating.

"Man why can't we ever convince people to vote for us?" Oh, because when bad shit happens instead of using it as a position to finally make these people understand and convince them that they should actually stand with us, we make topic after topic deriding , mocking or being more upset at them than the actual maga voters.

The fact of the matter is, abandon Harris / voters for trump voted the way they did because they hate Palestine and/or minorities in America. Thats all.

pazzy posted...

Even if the end, you people still act like assholes to these people. You never cared about them. You cared about yourself.

I care about the people in Gaza. I don't care about the evil pieces of shit that supported Trump and helped him get elected because Kamala didn't do enough for them. Those people committed an indefensibly evil act, helping Trump get elected against their own best interests, and they deserve immense suffering.

pazzy posted...

Both are shitty options and show how far our government has fallen. But anyone punching at these people and not the other people are beyond idiotic and frustrating.

"Man why can't we ever convince people to vote for us?" Oh, because when bad shit happens instead of using it as a position to finally make these people understand and convince them that they should actually stand with us, we make topic after topic deriding , mocking or being more upset at them than the actual maga voters.

We deride maga voters. We just can't do anything to slow them. We CAN hurt the never Kamala people, and we should hurt them because they plan to continue to be evil.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

I care about the people in Gaza. I don't care about the evil pieces of shit that supported Trump and helped him get elected because Kamala didn't do enough for them. Those people committed an indefensibly evil act, helping Trump get elected against their own best interests, and they deserve immense suffering.

Sure. But based on how people on here act? People have shown their whole ass.

I'm done with the people on here. Fucking awful people.

Wanting to push them someplace is somehow much more humane than what I would've thought Trump would advocate tbh

pazzy posted...

I'm done with the people on here. Fucking awful people.

Said by the user who posted and supported

pazzy posted...

Perhaps they thought getting you guys killed too is preferable than them voting to save you

Also, notice the "you guys"

DarkChozoGhost posted...

We deride maga voters. We just can't do anything to slow them. We CAN hurt the never Kamala people, and we should hurt them because they plan to continue to be evil.

Not enough. And anytime people are sick of hearing people seemingly glost about this, it does nothing.

Why even bother discussing with people on here? Somehow I'm the guy that screams same thing both sides because people just don't understand any perspective but their own. I've had enough.

This site makes me realize how disconnected people are from reality. Waste of time. I'm out.

TMOG posted...

Wow.

This is definitely a post.

Not a good one, but it's a post.

I'm not entirely sure when that dude blocked me but clearly it was a fuckin' favor.

Don't forget the protest voters also sent a big fuck you to every person of color, every member of the LGBT comminity, and every poor person in America. Also Ukraine. Truly rotten individuals

You keep saying "I'm done with you people" and "I'm out" an awful lot for somebody who's done and out.

See you in a couple posts!

pazzy posted...

Why even bother discussing with people on here? Somehow I'm the guy that screams same thing both sides because people just don't understand any perspective but their own. I've had enough.

when your perspective is "both sides bad actually"

then you're going to get called out for that

rightfully so, because it's fucking stupid

Akuryu posted...

Don't forget the protest voters also sent a big fuck you to every person of color, every member of the LGBT comminity, and every poor person in America. Also Ukraine. Truly rotten individuals

"I care so much about the people in Gaza that I'm going to make their lives much, much worse -- along with everybody else in America and the rest of the world -- in order to teach the Democrats a lesson. Surely Gaza will thank me for my moral superiority as they're marched off to the death camps."

TMOG posted...

You keep saying "I'm done with you people" and "I'm out" an awful lot for somebody who's done and out.

See you in a couple posts!

They closed their account, so let's see if they actually go through with it.

Certainly not going to miss a user who regularly deflected from shit the right did to keep doing the "you people are actually the awful ones" gig.

Jiek_Fafn posted...

Wanting to push them someplace is somehow much more humane than what I would've thought Trump would advocate tbh

Stop humoring this argument. Trump does not and never did intend to "move them somewhere else." It's simply a stage of his intentions to fully exterminate them.

pazzy posted...

Not enough. And anytime people are sick of hearing people seemingly glost about this, it does nothing.

Why even bother discussing with people on here? Somehow I'm the guy that screams same thing both sides because people just don't understand any perspective but their own. I've had enough.

This site makes me realize how disconnected people are from reality. Waste of time. I'm out.

It does plenty. If we offer sympathy to the evil pieces of shit that hurt Harris' campaign, they will stay organized, feel validated, and next election they will once again commit an act of evil and help republicans. If we treat them how they deserve to be treated, they will be unable to organize next election, and they will fail to harm democrats as much as they have.

We're nice to them, they keep being evil.
We're mean to them, we mitigate their evil.
It's quite simple.

Im sure this topic will be more productive than the last 300 times it was made this year.

Jiek_Fafn posted...

Wanting to push them someplace is somehow much more humane than what I would've thought Trump would advocate tbh

I'll give you two guesses how the Holocaust was originally pitched.

Hint: it was exactly like that

Rika_Furude posted...

The fact of the matter is, abandon Harris / voters for trump voted the way they did because they hate Palestine and/or minorities in America. Thats all.

This. It doesn't matter what clowns like this say -- their actions speak louder than any words could.

It's a perfect application of the "Don't tell me what you believe -- what you do will make what you believe perfectly clear to all" principle.

EPR-radar posted...

This. It doesn't matter what clowns like this say -- their actions speak louder than any words could.

It's a perfect application of the "Don't tell me what you believe -- what you do will make what you believe perfectly clear to all" principle.

"Y'all motherfuckers don't care about Palestine. Not like me, who ignored their directly stated desires and did my absolute best to muddy the waters and help support the guy who wants to pave over their entire culture. I am a sensitive and morally superior humanitarian, no matter how many corpses my efforts leave behind."

Akuryu posted...

Don't forget the protest voters also sent a big fuck you to every person of color, every member of the LGBT community, and every poor person in America. Also Ukraine. Truly rotten individuals

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/cda8ed08.png

refmon posted...

If a voter had to choose between Kamala's unspoken acceptance of continued genocide & slaughter, or a Trump plan to relocate the Gazan's to another country, then it's completely understandable for that voter to pull the lever for Trump.

Oh, you're going for the wholesale lie route.

Reality was that Kamala was for a cease-fire and if she had been elected and the war was still hot... her administration would have tried to get a cease-fire.

Pushing for a cease-fire is not the same thing as "acceptance of continued genocide & slaughter."

And you know that. You are just choosing to lie to further your agenda, which is that Kamala was either just as bad as Trump... or worse.

wrst?

LOL, Trump team already walking back his statements:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-white-house-holds-news-briefing-after-trump-suggests-u-s-take-over-gaza

Something I'm noticing a lot, certain people claim to care so much about Palestinians, and they should, no question about that.

But, I'm curious why this is the only argument you ever bring up? Trump's response to Palestinians is bad enough, but does nothing else he's done/doing make you raise an eyebrow, even just a little bit?

Because people seem to be being deliberately obtuse that the only thing at stake was the lives of Palestinian people.

Let me make it clear. If you didn't vote or voted third party, or even voted for Trump, you said not only to Palestinians, but everyone here currently suffering and will suffer in the future "Go fuck yourselves".

Is that why you can never seem to talk about it, or outright refuse to participate in topics explaining as such?

There's only one group of people acting smug, and it ain't us.

pazzy posted...

Alright, I'm going to be honest, this smug bullshit is getting old on here.

You know what got waaaaaaaaay older way faster than that?

Listening to those bad faith posters smugly bashing Harris and Biden for months while completely giving the guy OPENLY SAYING HE'D LET ISRAEL FINISH THE JOB A PASS, while also actively ignoring the FACT being repeatedly pointed out that Trump would be worse for EVERYONE, not just Palestine.

We told them for months what was going to happen, and that their best bet for change was Harris. They clearly knew better. So now they clearly get to hear about how they helped Trump get reelected EVERY time it comes up.

If they don't like it they're more than welcome to leave, or take the coward's way out and block, like some of them have already done. We're all stuck on this fucking ride for four years now (at least) they don't get to pretend that they didn't help cause it.

mybbqrules posted...

You know what got waaaaaaaaay older way faster than that?

Listening to those bad faith posters smugly bashing Harris and Biden for months while completely giving the guy OPENLY SAYING HE'D LET ISRAEL FINISH THE JOB A PASS, while also actively ignoring the FACT being repeatedly pointed out that Trump would be worse for EVERYONE, not just Palestine.

We told them for months what was going to happen, and that their best bet for change was Harris. They clearly knew better. So now they clearly get to hear about how they helped Trump get reelected EVERY time it comes up.

If they don't like it they're more than welcome to leave, or take the coward's way out and block, like some of them have already done. We're all stuck on this fucking ride for four years now (at least) they don't get to pretend that they didn't help cause it.

They wanted a reason to justify why both sides were the same and got it. Couldn't be bothered. They actually don't care for Palestinians. It's more of an after thought of. Yes, that is wrong, please stop it. Then nothing. Like pro choice who don't support children after conception. It's an idea to feel like you've done something without doing anything.

They are satisfied in thinking that their non vote means they can say they didn't vote for this. It's sad that people who did vote didn't get their vote counted.

Oh, his account is gone. That actually makes sense

lydiaquayle posted...

Tell that to the Gazans, and see what they think.

You people used the same shitty talking point at me in another topic about this about two weeks ago, and it isn't any less stupid today than it was then.

It's not about what anyone "thinks", it's about reality. And the reality is for the Palestinian people the choice between a US Republican president or a Democrat one, is like choosing death by a gunshot to the stomach or being thrown in a woodchipper. Both sides love AIPAC's money so much.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9a944431.jpg
Just ask your girl Kamala.