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VeggetaX 02/12/25 6:58:42 PM #152:	LightSnake posted... Can people ever just not like these movies? Imo, I think it's kinda unfair and a bit unreasonable to go in expecting the newest movie to be as good or even better than their best movie. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:984023889] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>Can people ever just not like these movies?</quote>Imo, I think it's kinda unfair and a bit unreasonable to go in expecting the newest movie to be as good or even better than their best movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 02/12/25 7:12:28 PM #153:	VeggetaX posted... Imo, I think it's kinda unfair and a bit unreasonable to go in expecting the newest movie to be as good or even better than their best movie. It just feels whenever there's "I didn't like this," the response is always "your expectations were wrong" --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:984024057] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>VeggetaX posted... </cite><quote>Imo, I think it's kinda unfair and a bit unreasonable to go in expecting the newest movie to be as good or even better than their best movie.</quote>It just feels whenever there's "I didn't like this," the response is always "your expectations were wrong"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kaiolino 02/12/25 7:26:09 PM #154:	VeggetaX posted... I think the problem is you went in expecting Winter Soldier I have no expectations for MCU movies. --- Comic book recaps 2012-2020: https://tinyurl.com/KaioRecaps <cite>kaiolino posted [p:984024238] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>VeggetaX posted... </cite><quote>I think the problem is you went in expecting Winter Soldier</quote>I have no expectations for MCU movies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tripleh213 02/12/25 7:28:05 PM #155:	This topic blew up --- Bucks World Champions 2021 PS4 looks great <cite>tripleh213 posted [p:984024262] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>This topic blew up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 02/12/25 7:41:45 PM #156:	LightSnake posted... And there went the goalposts. You' think if Shang Chi was so relevant, they could get another movie going there, but alas. It wasn't even that bad before it shit the bed in act 3. Its not bad at all. It's act three is far better than DP3s act 3. It took 6 years for Dr strange to get a sequel, 5 years for black panther to get one... this is nothing new. But I mean Hollywood has shut down and opened back up repeatedly over the time period. Theres more projects in circulation. Nothing out of the ordinary beyond that. I'd also bet Mulan is gonna remain more culturally relevant than Shang-Chi honestly. Hell, I'd put money on Avatar. Mulan is a good one. But Mulan was an adaptation of a legendary fable. Its kinda an unfair comparison. Congratulations, you've discovered opinion doesn't always need to be qualified. Also, are these super serious culturally relevant films or kids' films? Those aren't mutually exclusive, but a film kids can watch dont mean they're kids fidon't? Opinions don't have to be qualified. But they DO have to be informed. ...and? I mean, setting aside this is not testable, it's the same defense I've seen from the Star Wars sequels. "But kids like..." Yeah, kids like a lot of flashes in the pan that fade away, and? Kids also like comic books. Doesnt mean they aren't awesome.. It's amazing how you refuse to allow any criticism and keep trying to pretend most of these are morally complex. The guy who thought Martin Scorcese worked on Joker has opinions! And Marvel would never allow Logan to be released, be real. They've already put out projects just aa dark and violent as Logan lmao. Daredevil? Punsiher? Or do those not count either? --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:984024411] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>And there went the goalposts.You' think if Shang Chi was so relevant, they could get another movie going there, but alas. It wasn't even that bad before it shit the bed in act 3.</quote>Its not bad at all. It's act three is far better than DP3s act 3. It took 6 years for Dr strange to get a sequel, 5 years for black panther to get one... this is nothing new. But I mean Hollywood has shut down and opened back up repeatedly over the time period. Theres more projects in circulation. Nothing out of the ordinary beyond that.<quote>I'd also bet Mulan is gonna remain more culturally relevant than Shang-Chi honestly. Hell, I'd put money on Avatar.</quote>Mulan is a good one. But Mulan was an adaptation of a legendary fable. Its kinda an unfair comparison.<quote>Congratulations, you've discovered opinion doesn't always need to be qualified.Also, are these super serious culturally relevant films or kids' films?</quote>Those aren't mutually exclusive, but a film kids can watch dont mean they're kids fidon't?Opinions don't have to be qualified. But they DO have to be informed.<quote>...and? I mean, setting aside this is not testable, it's the same defense I've seen from the Star Wars sequels. "But kids like..."Yeah, kids like a lot of flashes in the pan that fade away, and?</quote>Kids also like comic books. Doesnt mean they aren't awesome..<quote>It's amazing how you refuse to allow any criticism and keep trying to pretend most of these are morally complex. The guy who thought Martin Scorcese worked on Joker has opinions!And Marvel would never allow Logan to be released, be real.</quote>They've already put out projects just aa dark and violent as Logan lmao.Daredevil? Punsiher? Or do those not count either?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 02/12/25 7:42:56 PM #157:	LightSnake posted... Can people ever just not like these movies? Of course. Don't say "it wasn't this other mcu movie" as a reason tho lmao. Thats not a valid critiques --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:984024430] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>Can people ever just not like these movies?</quote>Of course. Don't say "it wasn't this other mcu movie" as a reason tho lmao. Thats not a valid critiques </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Karate_II 02/12/25 7:57:50 PM #158:	I'm still going to watch it next week. Reviews or critic scores have never and will never influence.my decision to see a movie or TV show or not. If someone can't decide on their own about whether or not to watch a show or movie then they clearly should ask for help with mundane decisions. --- Michigan Wolverines 13 to Ohio state 10: 11/30/24 Detroit Lions: 14-2 <cite>Mr_Karate_II posted [p:984024626] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>I'm still going to watch it next week.Reviews or critic scores have never and will never influence.my decision to see a movie or TV show or not.If someone can't decide on their own about whether or not to watch a show or movie then they clearly should ask for help with mundane decisions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 02/12/25 7:58:21 PM #159:	Toonstrack posted... Its not bad at all. It's act three is far better than DP3s act 3. It took 6 years for Dr strange to get a sequel, 5 years for black panther to get one... this is nothing new. But I mean Hollywood has shut down and opened back up repeatedly over the time period. Theres more projects in circulation. Nothing out of the ordinary beyond that. I wonder why Black Panther would have taken just a bit of time to get a sequel. I don't quite think that one is on Coogler or Marvel, given Chadwick Boseman literally died of cancer in 2020. Like....seriously? And Dr. Strange was a mess behind the scenes Mulan is a good one. But Mulan was an adaptation of a legendary fable. Its kinda an unfair comparison. And adaptation of comic books aren't? How many people in the US do you think had heard of Mulan before the Disney film? Those aren't mutually exclusive, but a film kids can watch dont mean they're kids fidon't? Fair. Opinions don't have to be qualified. But they DO have to be informed. Still waiting for where Martin Scorcese's name appears on Joker. Kids also like comic books. Doesnt mean they aren't awesome.. You can think so. Comics vary wildly in quality, and most superhero films don't have very much artistic value? Pre- Comics Code Authority in the 40s/early 50s, you could find a WIDE variety of stuff, too, from pulp romance/western/war/horror comics, to Eisner in the 70s and Robert Crumb. They've already put out projects just aa dark and violent as Logan lmao. Daredevil? Punsiher? Are you citing me Netflix shows? They literally exist because Marvel didn't want to do dark films after they were pitched --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:984024635] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>Toonstrack posted... </cite><quote>Its not bad at all. It's act three is far better than DP3s act 3. </quote><quote>It took 6 years for Dr strange to get a sequel, 5 years for black panther to get one... this is nothing new. But I mean Hollywood has shut down and opened back up repeatedly over the time period. Theres more projects in circulation. Nothing out of the ordinary beyond that.</quote>I wonder why Black Panther would have taken just a bit of time to get a sequel. I don't quite think that one is on Coogler or Marvel, given Chadwick Boseman literally died of cancer in 2020. Like....seriously? And Dr. Strange was a mess behind the scenes<quote>Mulan is a good one. But Mulan was an adaptation of a legendary fable. Its kinda an unfair comparison.</quote>And adaptation of comic books aren't? How many people in the US do you think had heard of Mulan before the Disney film? <quote>Those aren't mutually exclusive, but a film kids can watch dont mean they're kids fidon't?</quote>Fair.<quote>Opinions don't have to be qualified. But they DO have to be informed.</quote>Still waiting for where Martin Scorcese's name appears on Joker.<quote>Kids also like comic books. Doesnt mean they aren't awesome..</quote>You can think so. Comics vary wildly in quality, and most superhero films don't have very much artistic value? Pre- Comics Code Authority in the 40s/early 50s, you could find a WIDE variety of stuff, too, from pulp romance/western/war/horror comics, to Eisner in the 70s and Robert Crumb.<quote>They've already put out projects just aa dark and violent as Logan lmao.Daredevil? Punsiher? </quote>Are you citing me Netflix shows? They literally exist because Marvel didn't want to do dark films after they were pitched</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 02/12/25 7:58:35 PM #160:	kaiolino posted... I have no expectations for MCU movies. I expect them to have Marvel characters. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:984024640] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>kaiolino posted... </cite><quote>I have no expectations for MCU movies.</quote>I expect them to have Marvel characters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
havean776 02/12/25 8:01:14 PM #161:	Toonstrack posted... Of course. Don't say "it wasn't this other mcu movie" as a reason tho lmao. Thats not a valid critiques Why not? --- "I will either find a way, or make one." Hannibal Barca <cite>havean776 posted [p:984024678] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>Toonstrack posted... </cite><quote>Of course. Don't say "it wasn't this other mcu movie" as a reason tho lmao. Thats not a valid critiques</quote>Why not?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeefEaster 02/12/25 8:07:33 PM #162:	I think it's perfectly fair to compare a sequel to its previous entries. <cite>BeefEaster posted [p:984024780] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>I think it's perfectly fair to compare a sequel to its previous entries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 02/12/25 8:24:33 PM #163:	LightSnake posted... I wonder why Black Panther would have taken just a bit of time to get a sequel. I don't quite think that one is on Coogler or Marvel, given Chadwick Boseman literally died of cancer in 2020. Like....seriously? And Dr. Strange was a mess behind the scenes Doctor strange wasn't anymore a mess than ant man 1 was. Once rami came out they got it done pretty smoothly, but it was announced from the start to release in 2021. Obviously the pandemic pushed it back but thats still 5 years. Black panther 2 was slated to release in 2022 before Boseman even died. It was going to be around 5 years regardless. The shooting was scheduled for 2021. They were taking their time. And adaptation of comic books aren't? How many people in the US do you think had heard of Mulan before the Disney film? I've heard among Asian people its as ubiquitous as American folk tales so I can't really speak on that. Fair. Still waiting for where Martin Scorcese's name appears on Joker. You can think so. Comics vary wildly in quality, and most superhero films don't have very much artistic value Could say the same about film. I dont think so. I know so. Comics are a high art that allows for a wide swath of genre and opportunities. Theres been high class, awaed winning comics for the entire existence of the medium down to this very day. Are you citing me Netflix shows? They literally exist because Marvel didn't want to do dark films after they were pitched Ok? They put them out. They have never been against putting out dark and adult material but they've always had a strategy to do so while maintaining brand consistency. That was before they became the biggest film franchise in history. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:984025026] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>I wonder why Black Panther would have taken just a bit of time to get a sequel. I don't quite think that one is on Coogler or Marvel, given Chadwick Boseman literally died of cancer in 2020. Like....seriously? And Dr. Strange was a mess behind the scenes</quote>Doctor strange wasn't anymore a mess than ant man 1 was. Once rami came out they got it done pretty smoothly, but it was announced from the start to release in 2021. Obviously the pandemic pushed it back but thats still 5 years. Black panther 2 was slated to release in 2022 before Boseman even died. It was going to be around 5 years regardless. The shooting was scheduled for 2021. They were taking their time.<quote>And adaptation of comic books aren't? How many people in the US do you think had heard of Mulan before the Disney film? </quote>I've heard among Asian people its as ubiquitous as American folk tales so I can't really speak on that. <quote>Fair.Still waiting for where Martin Scorcese's name appears on Joker.You can think so. Comics vary wildly in quality, and most superhero films don't have very much artistic value</quote>Could say the same about film.I dont think so. I know so. Comics are a high art that allows for a wide swath of genre and opportunities. Theres been high class, awaed winning comics for the entire existence of the medium down to this very day.<quote>Are you citing me Netflix shows? They literally exist because Marvel didn't want to do dark films after they were pitched</quote>Ok? They put them out. They have never been against putting out dark and adult material but they've always had a strategy to do so while maintaining brand consistency. That was before they became the biggest film franchise in history.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 02/12/25 8:25:38 PM #164:	havean776 posted... Why not? For the same reason me saying "I dont like this vanilla ice cream cone because it doesn't taste like pizza" isnt valid. You can not like the taste of vanilla. But its not supposed to taste like pizza. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:984025042] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>havean776 posted... </cite><quote>Why not?</quote>For the same reason me saying "I dont like this vanilla ice cream cone because it doesn't taste like pizza" isnt valid. You can not like the taste of vanilla. But its not supposed to taste like pizza. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
havean776 02/12/25 8:26:13 PM #165:	Toonstrack posted... For the same reason me saying "I dont like this vanilla ice cream cone because it doesn't taste like pizza" isnt valid. You can not like the taste of vanilla. But its not supposed to taste like pizza. A Captain America film should not be like Captain America? --- "I will either find a way, or make one." Hannibal Barca <cite>havean776 posted [p:984025059] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>Toonstrack posted... </cite><quote>For the same reason me saying "I dont like this vanilla ice cream cone because it doesn't taste like pizza" isnt valid. You can not like the taste of vanilla. But its not supposed to taste like pizza.</quote>A Captain America film should not be like Captain America?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistymermaid 02/12/25 8:33:54 PM #166:	havean776 posted... A Captain America film should not be like Captain America? No. There's no duplicating Steve Rogers. (It'd be practically sacrilege even to travel to the past, and bring him back literally) --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. <cite>mistymermaid posted [p:984025171] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>havean776 posted... </cite><quote>A Captain America film should not be like Captain America?</quote>No. There's no duplicating Steve Rogers. (It'd be practically sacrilege even to travel to the past, and bring him back literally)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Popo 02/12/25 9:11:10 PM #167:	Sucks for Sam but at least his show had good viewership for Disney plus. They need to get quality directors/writers for these. At least Daredevil is in like 2 weeks <cite>Blue_Popo posted [p:984025615] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>Sucks for Sam but at least his show had good viewership for Disney plus. They need to get quality directors/writers for these.At least Daredevil is in like 2 weeks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xerun 02/12/25 9:35:38 PM #168:	Id give it a 6 or 7 out of 10. Some slow bits and a bit of jarring editing occasionally but some fun action scenes --- Currently Playing: Ballionaire <cite>Xerun posted [p:984025886] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>Id give it a 6 or 7 out of 10. Some slow bits and a bit of jarring editing occasionally but some fun action scenes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DavidZ2844 02/12/25 10:27:24 PM #169:	Im glad I rewatched Eternals as part of my big MCU rewatch binge before this movie came out, as some of those reviews mentioned Eternals. Also rewatched Incredible Hulk and Falcon+Winter Soldier, as well as the Cap movies. I didnt know Secret Invasion would be mentioned in this movie though, and I wont have time to rewatch it before I see the movie tomorrow. A bit worried I wont catch Easter eggs/small details from that show in this movie. Anyone know how it references Secret Invasion? <cite>DavidZ2844 posted [p:984026432] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>Im glad I rewatched Eternals as part of my big MCU rewatch binge before this movie came out, as some of those reviews mentioned Eternals. Also rewatched Incredible Hulk and Falcon+Winter Soldier, as well as the Cap movies. I didnt know Secret Invasion would be mentioned in this movie though, and I wont have time to rewatch it before I see the movie tomorrow. A bit worried I wont catch Easter eggs/small details from that show in this movie. Anyone know how it references Secret Invasion? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Popo 02/12/25 10:31:30 PM #170:	DavidZ2844 posted... Im glad I rewatched Eternals as part of my big MCU rewatch binge before this movie came out, as some of those reviews mentioned Eternals. Also rewatched Incredible Hulk and Falcon+Winter Soldier, as well as the Cap movies. I didnt know Secret Invasion would be mentioned in this movie though, and I wont have time to rewatch it before I see the movie tomorrow. A bit worried I wont catch Easter eggs/small details from that show in this movie. Anyone know how it references Secret Invasion? I don't think it references secret invasion and I wouldn't recommend watching secret invasion. The best I can think of for secret invasion: ~~there is a different president in secret invasion and fury tells him he will be a one term president for his bad handling of skulls. In this movie thunderbolt Ross is president~~ <cite>Blue_Popo posted [p:984026473] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>DavidZ2844 posted... </cite><quote>Im glad I rewatched Eternals as part of my big MCU rewatch binge before this movie came out, as some of those reviews mentioned Eternals. Also rewatched Incredible Hulk and Falcon+Winter Soldier, as well as the Cap movies. I didnt know Secret Invasion would be mentioned in this movie though, and I wont have time to rewatch it before I see the movie tomorrow. A bit worried I wont catch Easter eggs/small details from that show in this movie. Anyone know how it references Secret Invasion?</quote>I don't think it references secret invasion and I wouldn't recommend watching secret invasion. The best I can think of for secret invasion:there is a different president in secret invasion and fury tells him he will be a one term president for his bad handling of skulls. In this movie thunderbolt Ross is president</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
squall567 02/12/25 10:34:51 PM #171:	With the lousy reviews, anti-wokes boycotting Disney because woke, and BDS boycotting because Zionism, this movie is going to flop HARD. <cite>squall567 posted [p:984026501] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>With the lousy reviews, anti-wokes boycotting Disney because woke, and BDS boycotting because Zionism, this movie is going to flop HARD.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xerun 02/13/25 12:11:19 AM #172:	Blue_Popo posted... I don't think it references secret invasion and I wouldn't recommend watching secret invasion. The best I can think of for secret invasion: ~~there is a different president in secret invasion and fury tells him he will be a one term president for his bad handling of skulls. In this movie thunderbolt Ross is president~~ CA:BNW spoilers ~~it pretends Secret Invasion does not exist as it should~~ --- Currently Playing: Ballionaire <cite>Xerun posted [p:984027277] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Popo posted... </cite><quote>I don't think it references secret invasion and I wouldn't recommend watching secret invasion. The best I can think of for secret invasion:there is a different president in secret invasion and fury tells him he will be a one term president for his bad handling of skulls. In this movie thunderbolt Ross is president</quote>CA:BNW spoilersit pretends Secret Invasion does not exist as it should</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-GalacticBass- 02/13/25 12:38:57 AM #173:	TDK, Watchmen, Logan, Batman v Superman: Ultimate Edition, were all comic books movies that felt like art rather than what the MCU is churning out. --- Perfect_Edge <cite>-GalacticBass- posted [p:984027463] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>TDK, Watchmen, Logan, Batman v Superman: Ultimate Edition, were all comic books movies that felt like art rather than what the MCU is churning out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GameGodOfAll 02/13/25 12:57:07 AM #174:	-GalacticBass- posted... Batman v Superman: Ultimate Edition Bwahahahaha --- My Words Were True And Sheamus Made You Believe! http://imgur.com/Fc39f.jpg <cite>GameGodOfAll posted [p:984027552] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>-GalacticBass- posted... </cite><quote>Batman v Superman: Ultimate Edition</quote>Bwahahahaha</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DavidZ2844 02/13/25 1:08:17 AM #175:	Blue_Popo posted... I don't think it references secret invasion and I wouldn't recommend watching secret invasion. The best I can think of for secret invasion: ~~there is a different president in secret invasion and fury tells him he will be a one term president for his bad handling of skulls. In this movie thunderbolt Ross is president~~ Ive actually already seen Secret Invasion, but I always rewatch the most relevant MCU movies/shows to whatever new MCU project is coming out, mostly because I have terrible memory for smaller details and need refreshers to fully catch all small references. The president stuff does make sense though, I wouldnt have remembered that Fury said that to the president in Secret Invasion so thanks for the reminder on that. Also, ~~I didnt think Secret Invasion was anywhere near as bad as most people thought it was. The finale was awful but the rest was fine to me, not amazing but decent enough overall.~~ Xerun posted... CA:BNW spoilers ~~it pretends Secret Invasion does not exist as it should~~ Thanks, to save time I for sure wont rewatch it then. For anyone else reading this quote thats curious, its not really a spoiler for CA:BNW at all (which I also appreciate, thanks) <cite>DavidZ2844 posted [p:984027637] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Popo posted... </cite><quote>I don't think it references secret invasion and I wouldn't recommend watching secret invasion. The best I can think of for secret invasion:there is a different president in secret invasion and fury tells him he will be a one term president for his bad handling of skulls. In this movie thunderbolt Ross is president</quote>Ive actually already seen Secret Invasion, but I always rewatch the most relevant MCU movies/shows to whatever new MCU project is coming out, mostly because I have terrible memory for smaller details and need refreshers to fully catch all small references.The president stuff does make sense though, I wouldnt have remembered that Fury said that to the president in Secret Invasion so thanks for the reminder on that. Also, I didnt think Secret Invasion was anywhere near as bad as most people thought it was. The finale was awful but the rest was fine to me, not amazing but decent enough overall.Xerun posted... </cite><quote>CA:BNW spoilersit pretends Secret Invasion does not exist as it should</quote>Thanks, to save time I for sure wont rewatch it then. For anyone else reading this quote thats curious, its not really a spoiler for CA:BNW at all (which I also appreciate, thanks)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 02/13/25 9:34:58 AM #176:	DavidZ2844 posted... Also, ~~I didnt think Secret Invasion was anywhere near as bad as most people thought it was. The finale was awful but the rest was fine to me, not amazing but decent enough overall.~~ There's a concept iirc called 'plot collapse,' where an ending or key climatic point is sooooo bad that it compels you to go back and look at the entire plot that came before it - which you enjoyed at first, despite all the glaring flaws you glossed over because you were convinced that the story was building to an awesome payoff - and realize that the rest of the story is pretty darn crappy as well. In my case, Secret Invasion's ending woke me up to the fact that ~~Maria and Talos were absolutely wasted as characters and their deaths were meaningless~~, Fury was an uncharacteristic jobber, and not even Olivia Colman's whip-smart dialogue could salvage the mess. Although when I say 'the ending,' I really felt the plot collapse sink in at the end of the penultimate episode. Last time I felt that was playing Fallout 3; you realize there's only one more episode / quest to go, you're suddenly aware of how the train is dangerously wobbling on the track as it heads for the ravine, and while you might hold out hope otherwise, you know deep-down there's no chance in hell for the plot to pull out of its collision course in time (Game of Thrones counts too, but that trainwreck was obvious far, far before the the last minute). --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:984029914] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>DavidZ2844 posted... </cite><quote>Also, I didnt think Secret Invasion was anywhere near as bad as most people thought it was. The finale was awful but the rest was fine to me, not amazing but decent enough overall.</quote>There's a concept iirc called 'plot collapse,' where an ending or key climatic point is sooooo bad that it compels you to go back and look at the entire plot that came before it - which you enjoyed at first, despite all the glaring flaws you glossed over because you were convinced that the story was building to an awesome payoff - and realize that the rest of the story is pretty darn crappy as well. In my case, Secret Invasion's ending woke me up to the fact that Maria and Talos were absolutely wasted as characters and their deaths were meaningless, Fury was an uncharacteristic jobber, and not even Olivia Colman's whip-smart dialogue could salvage the mess.Although when I say 'the ending,' I really felt the plot collapse sink in at the end of the penultimate episode. Last time I felt that was playing Fallout 3; you realize there's only one more episode / quest to go, you're suddenly aware of how the train is dangerously wobbling on the track as it heads for the ravine, and while you might hold out hope otherwise, you know deep-down there's no chance in hell for the plot to pull out of its collision course in time (Game of Thrones counts too, but that trainwreck was obvious far, far before the the last minute).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 02/13/25 1:33:01 PM #177:	dancing_cactuar posted... But that third act is utterly atrocious, and anyone even trying to excuse it needs to go to the corner and think for a bit on how literally the only thing about it that works is Shang Chi vs his father This hyperbole is so overdone and just flat out ridiculous. The father-son dynamic was handled extremely well, and we got a satisfying resolution to that. The dragon fight was awesome and a great cherry on top for the movie IMHO. it was very interesting to see the Ten Rings being used in that fight and see how they could be used against a much larger and stronger threat. Also just seeing the dragons in this context opens the doors to the possibility of seeing Shou Lao in a potential sequel (a man can dream). internet nerds being mad at comic book shit in comic book movies will always make me laugh though. --- Bad Faith User <cite>SwayM posted [p:984032224] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>dancing_cactuar posted... </cite><quote>But that third act is utterly atrocious, and anyone even trying to excuse it needs to go to the corner and think for a bit on how literally the only thing about it that works is Shang Chi vs his father</quote>This hyperbole is so overdone and just flat out ridiculous. The father-son dynamic was handled extremely well, and we got a satisfying resolution to that. The dragon fight was awesome and a great cherry on top for the movie IMHO. it was very interesting to see the Ten Rings being used in that fight and see how they could be used against a much larger and stronger threat. Also just seeing the dragons in this context opens the doors to the possibility of seeing Shou Lao in a potential sequel (a man can dream).internet nerds being mad at comic book shit in comic book movies will always make me laugh though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Popo 02/13/25 1:46:20 PM #178:	https://www.vulture.com/article/inside-captain-america-brave-new-worlds-chaotic-production.html Well the hit piece is out. Harrison Ford is one of the scapegoats. <cite>Blue_Popo posted [p:984032365] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>https://www.vulture.com/article/inside-captain-america-brave-new-worlds-chaotic-production.htmlWell the hit piece is out. Harrison Ford is one of the scapegoats. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 02/13/25 1:47:05 PM #179:	"The Hit Piece." Marvel can never fail. It can only be failed. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:984032372] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>"The Hit Piece."Marvel can never fail.It can only be failed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 02/13/25 1:51:21 PM #180:	SwayM posted... This hyperbole is so overdone and just flat out ridiculous. The father-son dynamic was handled extremely well, and we got a satisfying resolution to that. The dragon fight was awesome and a great cherry on top for the movie IMHO. it was very interesting to see the Ten Rings being used in that fight and see how they could be used against a much larger and stronger threat. Also just seeing the dragons in this context opens the doors to the possibility of seeing Shou Lao in a potential sequel (a man can dream). internet nerds being mad at comic book shit in comic book movies will always make me laugh though. This is so emblematic of the worst attitudes. Marvel's full of fights with big CGI monsters. They just threw away a much better villain for a completely silly CGI slugfest with zero emotional resonance. But of course, the big thing is "this might later introduce another Marvel concept!" And if you don't like this, you're just mad at comic book shit in comic book movies, never mind how well it's done! --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:984032414] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted... </cite><quote>This hyperbole is so overdone and just flat out ridiculous. The father-son dynamic was handled extremely well, and we got a satisfying resolution to that. The dragon fight was awesome and a great cherry on top for the movie IMHO. it was very interesting to see the Ten Rings being used in that fight and see how they could be used against a much larger and stronger threat. Also just seeing the dragons in this context opens the doors to the possibility of seeing Shou Lao in a potential sequel (a man can dream).internet nerds being mad at comic book shit in comic book movies will always make me laugh though.</quote>This is so emblematic of the worst attitudes. Marvel's full of fights with big CGI monsters. They just threw away a much better villain for a completely silly CGI slugfest with zero emotional resonance. But of course, the big thing is "this might later introduce another Marvel concept!"And if you don't like this, you're just mad at comic book shit in comic book movies, never mind how well it's done!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kaiolino 02/13/25 2:01:03 PM #181:	LightSnake posted... "The Hit Piece." Marvel can never fail. It can only be failed. The moment the MCU collapsed, the fanbase seamlessly turned into the equivalent of Snyder bros. --- Comic book recaps 2012-2020: https://tinyurl.com/KaioRecaps <cite>kaiolino posted [p:984032492] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>"The Hit Piece."Marvel can never fail.It can only be failed.</quote>The moment the MCU collapsed, the fanbase seamlessly turned into the equivalent of Snyder bros.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancing_cactuar 02/13/25 2:01:48 PM #182:	LightSnake posted... This is so emblematic of the worst attitudes. Marvel's full of fights with big CGI monsters. They just threw away a much better villain for a completely silly CGI slugfest with zero emotional resonance. But of course, the big thing is "this might later introduce another Marvel concept!" I mean why make the ending of your current movie good when you can just *potentially* tease shit that won't be relevant for another half decade minimum? And if you don't like this, you're just mad at comic book shit in comic book movies, never mind how well it's done! Yeah, never mind how my favorites in the MCU revolve around the tales of a space raccoon, a talking tree, and their buddies, or how one of the only good movies in the DCEU is "Big with Superpowers" which leads to very silly antics in contrast to nearly every other DCEU movie's lack of silliness, I am just unable to tolerate silly comic book stuff! My funny bone is just shattered! --- PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX All games, movies, albums, and books are fads- Darkfire12 <cite>dancing_cactuar posted [p:984032499] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>This is so emblematic of the worst attitudes. Marvel's full of fights with big CGI monsters. They just threw away a much better villain for a completely silly CGI slugfest with zero emotional resonance. But of course, the big thing is "this might later introduce another Marvel concept!"</quote>I mean why make the ending of your current movie good when you can just potentially tease shit that won't be relevant for another half decade minimum?<quote>And if you don't like this, you're just mad at comic book shit in comic book movies, never mind how well it's done!</quote>Yeah, never mind how my favorites in the MCU revolve around the tales of a space raccoon, a talking tree, and their buddies, or how one of the only good movies in the DCEU is "Big with Superpowers" which leads to very silly antics in contrast to nearly every other DCEU movie's lack of silliness, I am just unable to tolerate silly comic book stuff! My funny bone is just shattered!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 02/13/25 2:10:12 PM #183:	Blue_Popo posted... https://www.vulture.com/article/inside-captain-america-brave-new-worlds-chaotic-production.html Well the hit piece is out. Harrison Ford is one of the scapegoats. god harrison ford is so based --- https://i.imgur.com/hLHUnOI.jpg You act like I don't know my own way home <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:984032582] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Popo posted... </cite><quote>https://www.vulture.com/article/inside-captain-america-brave-new-worlds-chaotic-production.htmlWell the hit piece is out. Harrison Ford is one of the scapegoats.</quote>god harrison ford is so based</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 02/13/25 2:11:21 PM #184:	dancing_cactuar posted... I mean why make the ending of your current movie good when you can just *potentially* tease shit that won't be relevant for another half decade minimum? Yeah, never mind how my favorites in the MCU revolve around the tales of a space raccoon, a talking tree, and their buddies, or how one of the only good movies in the DCEU is "Big with Superpowers" which leads to very silly antics in contrast to nearly every other DCEU movie's lack of silliness, I am just unable to tolerate silly comic book stuff! My funny bone is just shattered! "Hey, I was actually really enjoying a cultural resonant exploration of toxic parenting, family legacy and reclaiming one's cullture and heritage while dealing with the darkest aspects of it. It's disappointing one of the best actors of his generation was replaced with a CGI dragon that has no emotional impact." "You just hate Comic book Shit!" --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:984032593] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>dancing_cactuar posted... </cite><quote>I mean why make the ending of your current movie good when you can just potentially tease shit that won't be relevant for another half decade minimum?Yeah, never mind how my favorites in the MCU revolve around the tales of a space raccoon, a talking tree, and their buddies, or how one of the only good movies in the DCEU is "Big with Superpowers" which leads to very silly antics in contrast to nearly every other DCEU movie's lack of silliness, I am just unable to tolerate silly comic book stuff! My funny bone is just shattered!</quote>"Hey, I was actually really enjoying a cultural resonant exploration of toxic parenting, family legacy and reclaiming one's cullture and heritage while dealing with the darkest aspects of it. It's disappointing one of the best actors of his generation was replaced with a CGI dragon that has no emotional impact.""You just hate Comic book Shit!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foxhound101 02/13/25 2:15:21 PM #185:	Meh - I'll wait for the audience score. I have zero idea why I care about what the professional/critics think about a movie. --- There are a ton of misconceptions about recycling. Learn how to better at recycling: https://onbetterliving.com/simplify-recycling/ <cite>foxhound101 posted [p:984032634] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>Meh - I'll wait for the audience score. I have zero idea why I care about what the professional/critics think about a movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 02/13/25 2:19:27 PM #186:	foxhound101 posted... Meh - I'll wait for the audience score. I have zero idea why I care about what the professional/critics think about a movie. With the exception of comedies - a far more subjective genre no matter how you slice it - and the very rare cult gem, critical consensus tends to line up with my personal preferences more often than not. I was already pretty iffy on how this one would turn out, and it would've taken some pretty positive critical reviews across the board to get my butt in a theater seat. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:984032685] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>foxhound101 posted... </cite><quote>Meh - I'll wait for the audience score. I have zero idea why I care about what the professional/critics think about a movie.</quote>With the exception of comedies - a far more subjective genre no matter how you slice it - and the very rare cult gem, critical consensus tends to line up with my personal preferences more often than not. I was already pretty iffy on how this one would turn out, and it would've taken some pretty positive critical reviews across the board to get my butt in a theater seat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 02/13/25 3:15:17 PM #187:	LightSnake posted... This is so emblematic of the worst attitudes This is excellent phrasing and exactly where I'm at with this attitude. Every single one of these films has massive CGI fights. You said it yourself. But the moment someone needs an easy criticism against an MCU movie they complain about the CGI bullshit. If you can buy 3 massive floating airships coming out of the ground at the end of Captain America the Winter Soldier and now you're complaining about CGI dragons, I think you've lost the plot of these movies. They've always been a CGI fuckfest. Complaining about this is grasping at straws. Also, again, the Father/Son plot was done to completion and handled great. Oh no the movie had multiple plot threads how dare it. --- Bad Faith User <cite>SwayM posted [p:984033256] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>This is so emblematic of the worst attitudes</quote>This is excellent phrasing and exactly where I'm at with this attitude.Every single one of these films has massive CGI fights. You said it yourself.But the moment someone needs an easy criticism against an MCU movie they complain about the CGI bullshit.If you can buy 3 massive floating airships coming out of the ground at the end of Captain America the Winter Soldier and now you're complaining about CGI dragons, I think you've lost the plot of these movies. They've always been a CGI fuckfest. Complaining about this is grasping at straws. Also, again, the Father/Son plot was done to completion and handled great. Oh no the movie had multiple plot threads how dare it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 02/13/25 3:26:17 PM #188:	SwayM posted... This is excellent phrasing and exactly where I'm at with this attitude. Every single one of these films has massive CGI fights. You said it yourself. But the moment someone needs an easy criticism against an MCU movie they complain about the CGI bullshit. Yeah, sometimes they're good. One of the worst parts of Black Panther to me was the train fight, but you know what? The end is Boseman and Jordan acting their hearts out to one another. Guardians 2 has a big CGI fight, but the ending is still Ego, in his human form, with Peter. It's the confrontation the movie builds to the entire time and we get to see Ego himself go down before the incredible Yondu moment. Emotional resonance is a real thing. And Wenwu is swapped out for a dragon that doesn't even have dialogue. Surely you can see the difference. If you can buy 3 massive floating airships coming out of the ground at the end of Captain America the Winter Soldier and now you're complaining about CGI dragons, I think you've lost the plot of these movies. They've always been a CGI fuckfest. Complaining about this is grasping at straws. I'm not complaining about a CGI dragon. I'm complaining about a badly written CGI dragon. Thanos is a CGI character imbued with humanity and charisma and the final fight is focused on him, with his emotion and his downfall centering that. You replace one of the best actors and his entire plot with a big CGI monster with no personality, like c'mon. Also, again, the Father/Son plot was done to completion and handled great. Oh no the movie had multiple plot threads how dare it. Glad you liked it. Doesn't mean I need to pretend that final act was good. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:984033377] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted... </cite><quote>This is excellent phrasing and exactly where I'm at with this attitude.Every single one of these films has massive CGI fights. You said it yourself.But the moment someone needs an easy criticism against an MCU movie they complain about the CGI bullshit.</quote>Yeah, sometimes they're good. One of the worst parts of Black Panther to me was the train fight, but you know what? The end is Boseman and Jordan acting their hearts out to one another. Guardians 2 has a big CGI fight, but the ending is still Ego, in his human form, with Peter. It's the confrontation the movie builds to the entire time and we get to see Ego himself go down before the incredible Yondu moment.Emotional resonance is a real thing. And Wenwu is swapped out for a dragon that doesn't even have dialogue. Surely you can see the difference.<quote>If you can buy 3 massive floating airships coming out of the ground at the end of Captain America the Winter Soldier and now you're complaining about CGI dragons, I think you've lost the plot of these movies. They've always been a CGI fuckfest. Complaining about this is grasping at straws. </quote>I'm not complaining about a CGI dragon. I'm complaining about a badly written CGI dragon. Thanos is a CGI character imbued with humanity and charisma and the final fight is focused on him, with his emotion and his downfall centering that.You replace one of the best actors and his entire plot with a big CGI monster with no personality, like c'mon.<quote>Also, again, the Father/Son plot was done to completion and handled great. Oh no the movie had multiple plot threads how dare it.</quote>Glad you liked it. Doesn't mean I need to pretend that final act was good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 02/13/25 6:03:11 PM #189:	Another major complaint about MCU movies is that the villain / final fight typically always ends up as a mirror match of the powers and abilities of the main hero. Iron Man vs Iron Monger Ant Man vs Yellowjacket Black Panther vs Killmonger etc etc etc. The matchup between Shang Chi and his father is an amazing fight, him using his mothers techniques against him to defeat him. Then mixing it up at the very end with the dragon fight was a nice change of pace and a pretty epic conclusion to the film. You also see him using his fathers technique to defeat the dragon. There is actual character development in this scene and it's not just "slop" as lazy as that criticism is. --- Bad Faith User <cite>SwayM posted [p:984034961] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>Another major complaint about MCU movies is that the villain / final fight typically always ends up as a mirror match of the powers and abilities of the main hero. Iron Man vs Iron MongerAnt Man vs YellowjacketBlack Panther vs Killmonger etc etc etc.The matchup between Shang Chi and his father is an amazing fight, him using his mothers techniques against him to defeat him. Then mixing it up at the very end with the dragon fight was a nice change of pace and a pretty epic conclusion to the film. You also see him using his fathers technique to defeat the dragon. There is actual character development in this scene and it's not just "slop" as lazy as that criticism is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 02/13/25 10:56:46 PM #190:	kaiolino posted... The moment the MCU collapsed They've had a film in the top 10 box office every year they've released a film. Since the pandemic they've achieved 2 billion dollar box office smashes, a film over 970 million, and 2 films over 800 million. Soundly beating every other studio in pet pandemic performance. collapse? Where? I dont see a collapse. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:984037929] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>kaiolino posted... </cite><quote>The moment the MCU collapsed</quote>They've had a film in the top 10 box office every year they've released a film. Since the pandemic they've achieved 2 billion dollar box office smashes, a film over 970 million, and 2 films over 800 million. Soundly beating every other studio in pet pandemic performance.collapse? Where? I dont see a collapse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 02/13/25 10:57:54 PM #191:	Blue_Popo posted... I don't think it references secret invasion and I wouldn't recommend watching secret invasion. The best I can think of for secret invasion: ~~there is a different president in secret invasion and fury tells him he will be a one term president for his bad handling of skulls. In this movie thunderbolt Ross is president~~ ~~Fury tells him reelection is coming up and he made a co traversal decision.~~ ~~That president lost the election to ross.~~ --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:984037942] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Popo posted... </cite><quote>I don't think it references secret invasion and I wouldn't recommend watching secret invasion. The best I can think of for secret invasion:there is a different president in secret invasion and fury tells him he will be a one term president for his bad handling of skulls. In this movie thunderbolt Ross is president</quote>Fury tells him reelection is coming up and he made a co traversal decision. That president lost the election to ross. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 02/13/25 11:00:49 PM #192:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/94d30283.jpg --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:984037971] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/94d30283.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xlr_big-coop 02/13/25 11:30:14 PM #194:	If only this would mean an end to capeshit. I'm so tired of the tropes and humor infecting unrelated stuff --- :) <cite>xlr_big-coop posted [p:984038193] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>If only this would mean an end to capeshit. I'm so tired of the tropes and humor infecting unrelated stuff </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 02/13/25 11:36:20 PM #195:	xlr_big-coop posted... If only this would mean an end to capeshit. I'm so tired of the tropes and humor infecting unrelated stuff Mcu didn't start anything that wasn't already being done in terms of humor. Do we really want mid 2000s comedy films back? Is that something were looking back fondly on? --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:984038243] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>xlr_big-coop posted... </cite><quote>If only this would mean an end to capeshit. I'm so tired of the tropes and humor infecting unrelated stuff</quote>Mcu didn't start anything that wasn't already being done in terms of humor.Do we really want mid 2000s comedy films back? Is that something were looking back fondly on? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_AKA_Snoopy 02/13/25 11:39:12 PM #196:	Reading reviews and whatnot it seems like the reshoots and potential rewrites for the first act of the film is very awkward. For some reviewers that is enough to really just sour the whole thing. Others look past that awkward first act and really love the final 2 acts. So most reviews are in that 5-7 range, thus why it's hovering around the 50% mark. Remember you can have a movie that averages 5.9/10 and will be 0% on RT, while a movie that is 6/10 on average could be 100% on RT. The Tomato-Meter is flawed in this way. --- https://i.imgur.com/GWG5c3r.gif <cite>Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted [p:984038265] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>Reading reviews and whatnot it seems like the reshoots and potential rewrites for the first act of the film is very awkward. For some reviewers that is enough to really just sour the whole thing. Others look past that awkward first act and really love the final 2 acts. So most reviews are in that 5-7 range, thus why it's hovering around the 50% mark. Remember you can have a movie that averages 5.9/10 and will be 0% on RT, while a movie that is 6/10 on average could be 100% on RT. The Tomato-Meter is flawed in this way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toonstrack 02/14/25 12:20:03 AM #198:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Wait til I tell you that the co writer of anchorman wrote for Ant Man, and Ant Man 2. Which also starred an actor from anchor man. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:984038599] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Wait til I tell you that the co writer of anchorman wrote for Ant Man, and Ant Man 2. Which also starred an actor from anchor man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toonstrack 02/14/25 12:44:22 AM #200:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Im talking about Adam mckay. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:984038767] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Im talking about Adam mckay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistymermaid 02/14/25 1:17:53 AM #201:	Toonstrack posted... Mcu didn't start anything that wasn't already being done in terms of humor. Do we really want mid 2000s comedy films back? Is that something were looking back fondly on? We need more self aware Marvel films that know critics will ravage the movie, and aren't afraid to lampshade it. --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. <cite>mistymermaid posted [p:984038970] in Captain Am... [t:80934034]...</cite> <quote>Toonstrack posted... </cite><quote>Mcu didn't start anything that wasn't already being done in terms of humor.Do we really want mid 2000s comedy films back? Is that something were looking back fondly on?</quote>We need more self aware Marvel films that know critics will ravage the movie, and aren't afraid to lampshade it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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